Comments on: North Koreans grieve loss of Dear Leader (Updated!) http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 23 May 2013 07:33:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: schadenfreudisch http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1301434 schadenfreudisch Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1301434 i do believe there is genuine emotion there.  just not sure what it is.  i also find it interesting that the mourners never touch each other.  no hugs.  no comforting hand on a shoulder.  i was hugging everyone on 9/12/01. cultural, or someone just forgot to put it in the instructions? ... this "comment" sat on my screen for two days because i didn't see the the "post" button.  PRK plot? i do believe there is genuine emotion there.  just not sure what it is.  i also find it interesting that the mourners never touch each other.  no hugs.  no comforting hand on a shoulder.  i was hugging everyone on 9/12/01. cultural, or someone just forgot to put it in the instructions?

… this “comment” sat on my screen for two days because i didn’t see the the “post” button.  PRK plot?

]]> By: assassinmonk http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1301284 assassinmonk Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1301284 When his father died, people who did not grieve were sent to re-education camps. When his father died, people who did not grieve were sent to re-education camps.

]]> By: cdh1971 http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1301260 cdh1971 Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1301260 I think that I shall never see a boy as brave as Kim jong il. Hunger and thirst and fear and pain. He lived because his heart had aim! A horse, as black as night to day; a feast of God with whom he did stay. They slept in the sand and played in the ocean and rode over the island in a singular motion. And now here he sits, a hero among boys, with the love of a horse, much more than mere toys! I think that I shall never see a boy as brave as Kim jong
il.

Hunger and thirst and fear and pain.

He lived because his heart had aim!

A horse, as black as night to day; a feast of God with whom
he did stay.

They slept in the sand and played in the ocean and rode over
the island in a singular motion.

And now here he sits, a hero among boys,

with the love of a horse, much more than mere toys!

]]> By: cdh1971 http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1301256 cdh1971 Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1301256 I was into Dear Leader before it was kewl. I was into Dear Leader before it was kewl.

]]> By: Guest http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1301240 Guest Tue, 20 Dec 2011 08:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1301240 Who said North Koreans were forced cry!? That is your opinion only and not fact. If you read up on the subject, you will find that many North Koreans are very sincere about their feelings towards their leadership even though quiet dissatisfaction is reportedly present. Also come to South Korea talk to some of the various church practitioners and see it for yourself then, sport.  I live in Seoul and have seen plenty crazy evangelicals for myself. Here are some links that you might check as common examples of what evangelical Christianity is like here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nj2JTPjlgk www.economist.com/node/21532340 www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Korea#New_religions Who said North Koreans were forced cry!? That is your opinion only and not fact. If you read up on the subject, you will find that many North Koreans are very sincere about their feelings towards their leadership even though quiet dissatisfaction is reportedly present.
Also come to South Korea talk to some of the various church practitioners and see it for yourself then, sport.  I live in Seoul and have seen plenty crazy evangelicals for myself.

Here are some links that you might check as common examples of what evangelical Christianity is like here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nj2JTPjlgk
http://www.economist.com/node/21532340
http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Korea#New_religions

]]> By: That guy over there http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1301143 That guy over there Tue, 20 Dec 2011 03:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1301143 <blockquote>Looking at brainwashed North Koreans mass theatrically sobbing for fallen leader makes you shake your head don't it? http://i.imgur.com/EN1lq.jpg</blockquote> (Source: http://twitter.com/prodnose/status/148704322056765441 )

Looking at brainwashed North Koreans mass theatrically sobbing for fallen leader makes you shake your head don’t it? http://i.imgur.com/EN1lq.jpg

(Source: http://twitter.com/prodnose/status/148704322056765441 )

]]> By: bkeybox http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1301117 bkeybox Tue, 20 Dec 2011 02:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1301117 Reminds me of the first monolith scene in 2001: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML1OZCHixR0&t=2m24s Reminds me of the first monolith scene in 2001: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML1OZCHixR0&t=2m24s

]]> By: Petzl http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1301081 Petzl Tue, 20 Dec 2011 01:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1301081  I'm no fan of religion, but it's not sporting to compare forced worship of dictator with voluntary religious observance. <i>And</i> then further generalize it as a specific Korean ethos.  I’m no fan of religion, but it’s not sporting to compare forced worship of dictator with voluntary religious observance. And then further generalize it as a specific Korean ethos.

]]> By: Guest http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1301074 Guest Tue, 20 Dec 2011 00:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1301074 That is a fair observation.  Evangelical sects in South Korea often demonstrate the same sort of hysteria and are too often the corrupt, miniature domains of the preacher-types that rule them (sole-ownership and tax-exempt).  The fact that the current president of South Korea belongs to an evangelical sect speaks to how common this circumstance is there. That is a fair observation.  Evangelical sects in South Korea often demonstrate the same sort of hysteria and are too often the corrupt, miniature domains of the preacher-types that rule them (sole-ownership and tax-exempt).  The fact that the current president of South Korea belongs to an evangelical sect speaks to how common this circumstance is there.

]]> By: KWillets http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1301073 KWillets Tue, 20 Dec 2011 00:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1301073 He's saying "father" in Korean.  Basically the same script as a funeral, where public mourning is the norm. He’s saying “father” in Korean.  Basically the same script as a funeral, where public mourning is the norm.

]]> By: Commodore Crush http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1301053 Commodore Crush Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1301053 Laugh tracks make everything better: http://blog.commodorecrush.com/index.php/2011/12/north-koreans-laughing-hysterically-over-the-death-of-kim-jong-il/ Laugh tracks make everything better: http://blog.commodorecrush.com/index.php/2011/12/north-koreans-laughing-hysterically-over-the-death-of-kim-jong-il/

]]> By: thezarray http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1301051 thezarray Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1301051 I think I'll need a lot of booze and opiates but I was thinking of cutting one to something terrible like Creed, Winger, or (shudder) Nickleback. Ok not the last one that's TOO terrible for me I think I’ll need a lot of booze and opiates but I was thinking of cutting one to something terrible like Creed, Winger, or (shudder) Nickleback. Ok not the last one that’s TOO terrible for me

]]> By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1301048 Brainspore Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1301048 You, sir or madam, are one sick little Monkee. Nicely played. You, sir or madam, are one sick little Monkee. Nicely played.

]]> By: thezarray http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1301028 thezarray Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1301028 Here's a video I made (currently uploading). I can't tell if I'm jaded or just a bad person at heart. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cud8sWhBG_8 Here’s a video I made (currently uploading). I can’t tell if I’m jaded or just a bad person at heart. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cud8sWhBG_8

]]> By: thequickbrownfox http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1301017 thequickbrownfox Mon, 19 Dec 2011 22:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1301017 Remember the  Solzhenitsyn anecdote?Secret police ready to arrest the first person who STOPS crying. Remember the  Solzhenitsyn anecdote?Secret police ready to arrest the first person who STOPS crying.

]]> By: tristian o'brien http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1301006 tristian o'brien Mon, 19 Dec 2011 22:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1301006 he was sooo lonely http://youtu.be/6z8iKVayOKk he was sooo lonely http://youtu.be/6z8iKVayOKk

]]> By: chris may http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1300990 chris may Mon, 19 Dec 2011 22:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1300990 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TqrDd_GAgw Sounds like a turkey dictator died, almost.  ;) Mix this with Mike B's 2001 clip below and it's not far off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TqrDd_GAgw
Sounds like a turkey dictator died, almost.  ;) Mix this with Mike B’s 2001 clip below and it’s not far off.

]]> By: nesnora http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1300980 nesnora Mon, 19 Dec 2011 22:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1300980 More propaganda, as always. Not that it's all fake, based on what they're educated to believe. It's a level of brain-washing we can't comprehend in our world. I suggest reading "The Cleanest Race" by B.R. Myers— he got his PhD in North Korean Studies in Germany (who knew there was a degree program for this), and has been to NK quite a bit. More propaganda, as always. Not that it’s all fake, based on what they’re educated to believe. It’s a level of brain-washing we can’t comprehend in our world.

I suggest reading “The Cleanest Race” by B.R. Myers— he got his PhD in North Korean Studies in Germany (who knew there was a degree program for this), and has been to NK quite a bit.

]]> By: Navin_Johnson http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1300977 Navin_Johnson Mon, 19 Dec 2011 22:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1300977 Sad John Boehner (and friends) approve. http://boingboing.net/2011/01/06/sad-don-draper-meets.html Sad John Boehner (and friends) approve.

http://boingboing.net/2011/01/06/sad-don-draper-meets.html

]]> By: oldjove http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1300940 oldjove Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1300940 If you were in their place, wouldn't you take the opportunity to have a good cry? If you were in their place, wouldn’t you take the opportunity to have a good cry?

]]> By: Mitchell Glaser http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1300926 Mitchell Glaser Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1300926 I had to look it up. The Wikipedia article on Two Minute Hate is fascinating. I had to look it up. The Wikipedia article on Two Minute Hate is fascinating.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1300913 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1300913 That's what swooning is for. So that you can leave the wake and do something fun. That’s what swooning is for. So that you can leave the wake and do something fun.

]]> By: rocobo9 http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1300908 rocobo9 Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1300908 absolutely this clip is at first humorous and then very disturbing. it shows that his legacy could be here for a lot longer yet... absolutely

this clip is at first humorous and then very disturbing. it shows that his legacy could be here for a lot longer yet…

]]> By: rocobo9 http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1300905 rocobo9 Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1300905 oh please, that is not genuine emotion on display. as Ipo above stated, "I've seen 3 year olds fake crying more realistically." oh please, that is not genuine emotion on display. as Ipo above stated, “I’ve seen 3 year olds fake crying more realistically.”

]]> By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1300901 Brainspore Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1300901 <blockquote>Those with a gun to their heads are judged here for making laughable TV, while scant comment is passed on how much more real are our TV debates…</blockquote>I'm not sure where you're writing from but mocking TV debates is a national pastime in the U.S.. In fact they're the main reason Saturday Night Live tends to produce a few minutes of funny material every four years or so.

Those with a gun to their heads are judged here for making laughable TV, while scant comment is passed on how much more real are our TV debates…

I’m not sure where you’re writing from but mocking TV debates is a national pastime in the U.S.. In fact they’re the main reason Saturday Night Live tends to produce a few minutes of funny material every four years or so.

]]> By: SedanChair http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1300895 SedanChair Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:01:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1300895 Nah, it's just that nobody wants to be the first to stop crying. Nah, it’s just that nobody wants to be the first to stop crying.

]]> By: HOTDAMN http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1300885 HOTDAMN Mon, 19 Dec 2011 20:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1300885 I think it's really more out of fear than genuine pain.  Anyone caught not grieving the dear leader would instantly be put in "prison" along with two generations worth of their families, no joke.  These people aren't stupid, they're trapped. I think it’s really more out of fear than genuine pain.  Anyone caught not grieving the dear leader would instantly be put in “prison” along with two generations worth of their families, no joke.  These people aren’t stupid, they’re trapped.

]]> By: Rich Keller http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1300881 Rich Keller Mon, 19 Dec 2011 20:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1300881 The Three Minute Sob is the new Two Minute Hate. The Three Minute Sob is the new Two Minute Hate.

]]> By: Joshua Bardwell http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1300865 Joshua Bardwell Mon, 19 Dec 2011 20:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1300865 To what degree might that be due to different social cues in their country? Does a grief-stricken Vietnamese person look like a grief-stricken person in the country you live? (And I'm assuming with a name like Nathan Hornby that you're not Vietnamese, so forgive me if I'm wrong.) To what degree might that be due to different social cues in their country? Does a grief-stricken Vietnamese person look like a grief-stricken person in the country you live? (And I’m assuming with a name like Nathan Hornby that you’re not Vietnamese, so forgive me if I’m wrong.)

]]> By: bargainoutlet http://boingboing.net/2011/12/19/north-koreans-grieve-loss-of-d.html#comment-1300863 bargainoutlet Mon, 19 Dec 2011 20:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134975#comment-1300863 Poor brainwashed citizens of N. Korea. Their undeserved affection is almost akin to Stockholm Syndrome. Poor brainwashed citizens of N. Korea. Their undeserved affection is almost akin to Stockholm Syndrome.

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