Comments on: Anti-SOPA plugins render censorship law pointless AND stupid http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 22 May 2013 01:04:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Guest http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301816 Guest Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301816 No one is "shutting off speech", considering you're free to talk about things all you want. They're going after sites that host copyrighted materials WHICH IS ALREADY A CRIME. Going after thieves and criminals isn't a free speech violation. That's like saying a law which makes it illegal to rob a bank is shutting off free speech for bank robbers. No one is “shutting off speech”, considering you’re free to talk about things all you want. They’re going after sites that host copyrighted materials WHICH IS ALREADY A CRIME. Going after thieves and criminals isn’t a free speech violation.

That’s like saying a law which makes it illegal to rob a bank is shutting off free speech for bank robbers.

]]> By: bja009 http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301797 bja009 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:05:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301797 Holy cow, you haven't paid any attention to this at all, have you? Shutting off speech indiscriminately and without due process is the very definition of censorship. Spin it all you want, but that doesn't make it less censorshipy. Alternately, troll troll is troll! Holy cow, you haven’t paid any attention to this at all, have you? Shutting off speech indiscriminately and without due process is the very definition of censorship. Spin it all you want, but that doesn’t make it less censorshipy.
Alternately, troll troll is troll!

]]> By: GlenBlank http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301796 GlenBlank Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301796 <blockquote>Wasn't the Internet originally designed to withstand nuclear attack?</blockquote> No, it wasn't: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET#Misconceptions_of_design_goals" rel="nofollow"> ARPANET: Misconceptions of design goals</a>

Wasn’t the Internet originally designed to withstand nuclear attack?

No, it wasn’t:

ARPANET: Misconceptions of design goals

]]> By: Twilight_News_Site http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301754 Twilight_News_Site Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301754 Wasn't the Internet originally designed to withstand nuclear attack?   If so, I'm relatively certain that annihilation by "decree" probably wouldn't work.  Since decrees are generally not quite as damaging as nuclear assault. And I'm pretty sure that I can memorize/write down/book mark IP addresses.  Like I do for every web site I design before the name goes live.   Just because you're a congressman doesn't mean you aren't still a yokel, apparently, or the urban equivalent. Wasn’t the Internet originally designed to withstand nuclear attack?  

If so, I’m relatively certain that annihilation by “decree” probably wouldn’t work.  Since decrees are generally not quite as damaging as nuclear assault.

And I’m pretty sure that I can memorize/write down/book mark IP addresses.  Like I do for every web site I design before the name goes live.  

Just because you’re a congressman doesn’t mean you aren’t still a yokel, apparently, or the urban equivalent.

]]> By: Guest http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301719 Guest Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301719 Uh, because the sites that are subject to this law are the ones that are traffiking in pirated materials. If you need an add-on to circumvent this then clearly you are dealing with something shady (try to spin and call it 'censorship' all you want but it doesn't make it true). Uh, because the sites that are subject to this law are the ones that are traffiking in pirated materials. If you need an add-on to circumvent this then clearly you are dealing with something shady (try to spin and call it ‘censorship’ all you want but it doesn’t make it true).

]]> By: cmdrfire http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301718 cmdrfire Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301718 The plug-in points your browser to a non-US DNS. What's that got to do with media piracy? The plug-in points your browser to a non-US DNS. What’s that got to do with media piracy?

]]> By: Guest http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301716 Guest Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301716 If you have to install an add-on just so you can continue to pirate your music and movies, you have bigger problems. Perhaps you could just, you know, stop doing that and purchase your media legally like the rest of us? If you have to install an add-on just so you can continue to pirate your music and movies, you have bigger problems. Perhaps you could just, you know, stop doing that and purchase your media legally like the rest of us?

]]> By: elix http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301678 elix Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301678 It just becomes a cat-and-mouse blocking-evasion game. It just becomes a cat-and-mouse blocking-evasion game.

]]> By: Tyler Puryear http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301612 Tyler Puryear Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301612 In the long term it could perhaps be good for the rest of the world, but before the mass exodus of the gTLD servers from the US it will screw over everybody else on the planet until the changeover is complete. And in the end when the dust settles the average Joe back in the US will still be stuck in a fractured internet. All because a bunch of greedy asshats said fuck the Constitution, we need more money! In the long term it could perhaps be good for the rest of the world, but before the mass exodus of the gTLD servers from the US it will screw over everybody else on the planet until the changeover is complete. And in the end when the dust settles the average Joe back in the US will still be stuck in a fractured internet. All because a bunch of greedy asshats said fuck the Constitution, we need more money!

]]> By: querent http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301594 querent Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301594 You mean, like, for america to outlaw them?  The foreign servers?  The ones that are not in america? You mean, like, for america to outlaw them?  The foreign servers?  The ones that are not in america?

]]> By: j http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301593 j Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301593 More generally, since DNS will literally be broken in America, all browsers will have to build some kind of native solution to use DNS servers in the rest of the world, or not function at all.  And the (necessarily American-controled) .com, .org, and .net TLDs will disintegrate, but all the others will flourish.  Basically the net effect of SOPA will be to move the control of the internet out of America.  Not so bad I guess. More generally, since DNS will literally be broken in America, all browsers will have to build some kind of native solution to use DNS servers in the rest of the world, or not function at all.  And the (necessarily American-controled) .com, .org, and .net TLDs will disintegrate, but all the others will flourish.  Basically the net effect of SOPA will be to move the control of the internet out of America.  Not so bad I guess.

]]> By: Florian Bösch http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301491 Florian Bösch Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301491 Here we go, DNS starts to disintegrate. Here we go, DNS starts to disintegrate.

]]> By: Nathan Hornby http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301487 Nathan Hornby Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:52:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301487 It'd make it pointless for us techy types (well, you American techy types (in America)), but not so much for average Joe and the businesses that have drastically reduced traffic. It’d make it pointless for us techy types (well, you American techy types (in America)), but not so much for average Joe and the businesses that have drastically reduced traffic.

]]> By: Tyler Tinsley http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301466 Tyler Tinsley Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301466 wont these be illegal and punishable by something or other under sopa. for us unlucky Americans anyway. wont these be illegal and punishable by something or other under sopa. for us unlucky Americans anyway.

]]> By: bcsizemo http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301467 bcsizemo Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301467 From what I've read on it, that seemed like the next logical step.  I mean it's blocking DNS, not IP addresses... From what I’ve read on it, that seemed like the next logical step.  I mean it’s blocking DNS, not IP addresses…

]]> By: Adam Fields http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301465 Adam Fields Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301465 Great. Just what we needed - an excuse for them to outlaw foreign DNS servers too.  Great. Just what we needed – an excuse for them to outlaw foreign DNS servers too. 

]]> By: Jon Moses http://boingboing.net/2011/12/20/anti-sopa-plugins-render-censo.html#comment-1301463 Jon Moses Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=135182#comment-1301463 I'm certain that, if it passes, it will include the same sort of "anti-circumvention" provisions that the DMCA does, rendering the plugins unavailable, or at least harder to get. I’m certain that, if it passes, it will include the same sort of “anti-circumvention” provisions that the DMCA does, rendering the plugins unavailable, or at least harder to get.

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