Comments on: 2011's official secrecy outrages

By: Eric Rucker

Eric Rucker — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:40:00 +0000

I’ll probably spoil that portion of my ballot, honestly, unless I see some candidate that has a track record of being honest. Oh, and I won’t vote for any Republicans or Democrats – both of those parties need to go, third parties, preferably ones that include fairer voting systems in their platform, should go in.

By: Roy Trumbull

Roy Trumbull — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 01:55:00 +0000

Going back many years the CIA building in Langley had no markings. Yet the city buses had destination signs that said CIA.
Long ago when I had occasion to see a secret document I found it was filled with useless eyewash meant to prop up a questionable project. Never bothered to look at one again.

By: chenille

chenille — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 00:05:00 +0000

It’s true, nobody ever criticizes Obama. Well, politicians and press do all the time, but for some reason they never fault civil liberty violations. I’m sure they’re just giving the left an easy pass, and would have if it were McCain.

Oh, and there were some kind of mobs out on streets all over the country, but I’m told I shouldn’t pay too much attention because they’re upset about more than one thing.

But yeah, where are the NGOs in all this? Why doesn’t the ACLU try, I don’t know, suing the government or something? Why doesn’t the EFF speak out?

By: ffabian

ffabian — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 22:50:00 +0000

So killing and torturing non-US citizens without trial is ok then?

Die neue Herrenrasse: US-Amerikaner!

By: EH

EH — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 22:41:00 +0000

Michael Smith: is that a mathematical thing where currently there is really only two voting options, yes to one, no to all the others? IRV with 3 ranks would (eventually) result in 3 parties in equilibrium, that kind of thing?

By: travtastic

travtastic — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 22:29:00 +0000

For liberty!

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 22:13:00 +0000

Straight White Men For Ron Paul 2012.

By: BombBlastLightingWaltz

BombBlastLightingWaltz — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 21:51:00 +0000

This comment has been made classified in the interest of National Security.

By: digi_owl

digi_owl — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 21:06:00 +0000

@michaelrohansmith:disqus except that the center seems to have been dragged far to the right…

By: Michael Smith

Michael Smith — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 20:26:00 +0000

Game theory addresses this. Americans need to fix their voting system first. Without some form of preferential voting the political system will naturally narrow down to two parties which will converge on the same solutions and fight over the small swing at the center.

By: travtastic

travtastic — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 20:21:00 +0000

White Men For Ron Paul 2012!

By: MarcVader

MarcVader — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 20:00:00 +0000

This. The sad thing is that it seems to be working.

By: Jonathan Steigman

Jonathan Steigman — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 18:32:00 +0000

I make it a rule not to vote for those who torture or kill U.S. citizens without trial or oversight. So Obama, who should be impeached and brought before an international war crimes tribunal, is out.

I’d probably vote for Ron Paul. A racist, anti-choice loon who reverses U.S. global militarization and supports #Occupy is far preferable to a pseudo-progressive who erodes my civil liberties further.

By: nemryn

nemryn — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 17:01:00 +0000

The problem is, voting for neither lizard doesn’t count as a vote for Nobody.

By: Mordicai

Mordicai — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 16:38:00 +0000

Well, when Obama talked about transparency, he didn’t mean GOVERNMENT transparency, he meant CITIZEN transparency. This administration has continued the work of the previous administration in eroding your rights to privacy & free speech.

By: Mordicai

Mordicai — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 16:36:00 +0000

While I did & will vote for an Other Party, I think saying you should have voted for McCain is raw foolishness.

By: Wally Ballou

Wally Ballou — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 16:21:00 +0000

We’re not required to vote for either Lizard A or Lizard B, you know.

Although in retrospect, I rather wish I had voted for McCain. At least when HE tried some outrageous civil liberties violation, the NGO’s and the press and the anti-war movement would be raising holy hell about it, instead of determinedly looking the other way as they do for this guy.

By: jimbo2112

jimbo2112 — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 16:18:00 +0000

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

By: laukarlueng

laukarlueng — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 16:12:00 +0000

Obama does say the word “drone”. He threatened (jokingly) to murder the Jonas Brothers with predator drones if they came near his daughters. A mass murderer who jokes about his mass murdering. Barack “Nobel Peace Prize Winner” Obama ladies and gentlemen.

By: digi_owl

digi_owl — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 16:06:00 +0000

Seem the US problem is that the election is mostly between two kinds of poison, both presented by a representative of a corporate subsection.

By: Daniel Smith

Daniel Smith — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 16:03:00 +0000

How bizarre…secrecy now seems to be like the two year old who thinks if he covers his eyes, you can’t see him. This isn’t secrecy so much as an attempt to remake reality by plugging ones ears and going “na na na na, I can’t heeeear you”…

By: Wally Ballou

Wally Ballou — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 15:47:00 +0000

Yes, and those of you who are US citizens will almost all vote for Obama in 2012, and you know it. So try to keep the outrage dial backed down a notch or two, OK?