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	<title>Comments on: The Coming War on General Purpose&#160;Computation</title>
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		<title>By: danielravennest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html#comment-1308129</link>
		<dc:creator>danielravennest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 02:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One life, you&#039;re Thomas A. Anderson, program writer for a respectable software company. You have a social security number, pay your taxes, and you... help your landlady carry out her garbage. The other life is lived in computers, where you go by the hacker alias &quot;Neo&quot; and are guilty of virtually every computer crime we have a law for. One of these lives has a future, and one of them does not&quot;

That ring a bell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One life, you&#8217;re Thomas A. Anderson, program writer for a respectable software company. You have a social security number, pay your taxes, and you&#8230; help your landlady carry out her garbage. The other life is lived in computers, where you go by the hacker alias &#8220;Neo&#8221; and are guilty of virtually every computer crime we have a law for. One of these lives has a future, and one of them does not&#8221;</p>
<p>That ring a bell?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Wooldridge</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html#comment-1308116</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Wooldridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh?  Probably not watched Top Gear in your life then...  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh?  Probably not watched Top Gear in your life then&#8230;  </p>
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		<title>By: tlwest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html#comment-1308114</link>
		<dc:creator>tlwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One aspect in which I think Cory is inaccurate is whether the present and future measures work.  Just because these can (and are) circumvented does not mean that they have failed.  After all, we have laws against murder that are circumvented regularly and yet we consider them worthwhile.

What these laws do is add friction to the cost of reproducing information.  Means of duplicating information have been around for a long time: manual copying, photocopiers, cassette tapes, VCR tapes, etc.  However, all of these non-digital means of copying had a friction that was natural to the medium that retarded the market in copies to the point that a content industry could continue to exist.

With the digital era, that natural friction disappeared.  More to the point, it became quite possible to make money off the copying of other people&#039;s content (c.f. Napster, Megaupload, etc.)  The copyright enforcement laws (which are different from the copyright extension laws) are an attempt to re-introduce friction into the digital copying era such that there is a consumer (as opposed to moral) argument for actually recompensing the content creators and distributors for their efforts.

As well, these laws (as well as the ridiculous suits against pirates) have one additional purpose.  They attempt (semi-successfully) to induce a sense that there is a moral impropriety to copying content without permission.  

(For those who claim it doesn&#039;t work, I&#039;ll give the example of drunk driving laws, which when they were first properly enforced caused quite a bit of outrage when decent citizens where given *criminal* records for following a fairly commonly accepted social practice.  However, over the decades, the citizenry gradually did accept that anything that was punished this harshly by law must be morally wrong (or at least iffy), and after a long while, drunk driving is generally considered a moral wrong.)

So, in the end, I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll see either side achieve &quot;victory&quot;.  Too much will be lost if either side &quot;wins&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One aspect in which I think Cory is inaccurate is whether the present and future measures work.  Just because these can (and are) circumvented does not mean that they have failed.  After all, we have laws against murder that are circumvented regularly and yet we consider them worthwhile.</p>
<p>What these laws do is add friction to the cost of reproducing information.  Means of duplicating information have been around for a long time: manual copying, photocopiers, cassette tapes, VCR tapes, etc.  However, all of these non-digital means of copying had a friction that was natural to the medium that retarded the market in copies to the point that a content industry could continue to exist.</p>
<p>With the digital era, that natural friction disappeared.  More to the point, it became quite possible to make money off the copying of other people&#8217;s content (c.f. Napster, Megaupload, etc.)  The copyright enforcement laws (which are different from the copyright extension laws) are an attempt to re-introduce friction into the digital copying era such that there is a consumer (as opposed to moral) argument for actually recompensing the content creators and distributors for their efforts.</p>
<p>As well, these laws (as well as the ridiculous suits against pirates) have one additional purpose.  They attempt (semi-successfully) to induce a sense that there is a moral impropriety to copying content without permission.  </p>
<p>(For those who claim it doesn&#8217;t work, I&#8217;ll give the example of drunk driving laws, which when they were first properly enforced caused quite a bit of outrage when decent citizens where given *criminal* records for following a fairly commonly accepted social practice.  However, over the decades, the citizenry gradually did accept that anything that was punished this harshly by law must be morally wrong (or at least iffy), and after a long while, drunk driving is generally considered a moral wrong.)</p>
<p>So, in the end, I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll see either side achieve &#8220;victory&#8221;.  Too much will be lost if either side &#8220;wins&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: tlwest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html#comment-1308109</link>
		<dc:creator>tlwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory did address the fact that fighting against the appliance computer isn&#039;t easy (and I have to say, I really liked his analogy with smoking).  However, one doesn&#039;t have to stop people using appliances in order to win the war - you merely have to (1) stop laws being passed that make general purpose computing illegal and (2) keep the open market viable enough that it&#039;s still worth businesses offering open products.

Your analogy about automatic transmission isn&#039;t a bad one - the important part is you can still (legally) buy a standard transmission and it doesn&#039;t look like it&#039;s about to disappear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory did address the fact that fighting against the appliance computer isn&#8217;t easy (and I have to say, I really liked his analogy with smoking).  However, one doesn&#8217;t have to stop people using appliances in order to win the war &#8211; you merely have to (1) stop laws being passed that make general purpose computing illegal and (2) keep the open market viable enough that it&#8217;s still worth businesses offering open products.</p>
<p>Your analogy about automatic transmission isn&#8217;t a bad one &#8211; the important part is you can still (legally) buy a standard transmission and it doesn&#8217;t look like it&#8217;s about to disappear.</p>
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		<title>By: hugh crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>hugh crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2012 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a joke right?

I take a prescription that costs about $40 a day , and in countries where it&#039;s an over the counter drug , it would cost about 20 cents.

If I had the time and didn&#039;t have the insurance it would be cheaper to fly to France than walk to my Brooklyn pharmacy for a refill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a joke right?</p>
<p>I take a prescription that costs about $40 a day , and in countries where it&#8217;s an over the counter drug , it would cost about 20 cents.</p>
<p>If I had the time and didn&#8217;t have the insurance it would be cheaper to fly to France than walk to my Brooklyn pharmacy for a refill.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2012 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have used Rockbox for my media players, now I use OpenInkPot for my e-readers. Worth noting the Chinese e-readers are the best for hacking because they are built by hacker themselves, and the MP3/media players wouldn&#039;t have Rockbox if it wasn&#039;t for the help given to them by Creative. Not all companies are against openness. Canon camera&#039;s have open firmware available too, Canon are not promoting this software, just offering developers the right amount of guidance where needed, in return canon can learn more about the consumers who use this, so know to incorporate the extra features in newer revisions of there kit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have used Rockbox for my media players, now I use OpenInkPot for my e-readers. Worth noting the Chinese e-readers are the best for hacking because they are built by hacker themselves, and the MP3/media players wouldn&#8217;t have Rockbox if it wasn&#8217;t for the help given to them by Creative. Not all companies are against openness. Canon camera&#8217;s have open firmware available too, Canon are not promoting this software, just offering developers the right amount of guidance where needed, in return canon can learn more about the consumers who use this, so know to incorporate the extra features in newer revisions of there kit.</p>
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		<title>By: Dig A.</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html#comment-1307916</link>
		<dc:creator>Dig A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2012 04:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory et. al fail to get out of the &quot;geek mode&quot; paralysis that defines the technocrats generations and realize the bigger shift (or shit) that is happening, which is: soon things in computing will get so damn complex that they will no longer be just computers, and will run on their own, think and act without human intervention, and self-improve outside of human&#039;s direct control other than perhaps listening to our suggestions and desires.
Everything around us will compute one way or another, interact with us, learn our habits and how to get to us in the most efficient manner. Which means everything out there will soon program itself and evolve to an unimaginably intelligent scale on its own. It will happen.
So it will no longer be the &quot;geeks&quot; with their computers anymore wanting freedom to run cracked stuff on their toys. It will be the environment itself reacting to us and us interacting with it as if it was our peer - which we know it won&#039;t be! Not to mention the millions of robots of all kinds feeding themselves from and into this universally connected intelligence in order to do tasks they will decide on their own that would be appropriate.
If this doesn&#039;t make the whole &quot;hacktivism&quot; look like a mediocre cry for more rain I don&#039;t know what else does. Just accept that the future will not play by any rules set out by anyone who resists it. It is futile. Funny to listen to the discourse nevertheless. But useless in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory et. al fail to get out of the &#8220;geek mode&#8221; paralysis that defines the technocrats generations and realize the bigger shift (or shit) that is happening, which is: soon things in computing will get so damn complex that they will no longer be just computers, and will run on their own, think and act without human intervention, and self-improve outside of human&#8217;s direct control other than perhaps listening to our suggestions and desires.<br />
Everything around us will compute one way or another, interact with us, learn our habits and how to get to us in the most efficient manner. Which means everything out there will soon program itself and evolve to an unimaginably intelligent scale on its own. It will happen.<br />
So it will no longer be the &#8220;geeks&#8221; with their computers anymore wanting freedom to run cracked stuff on their toys. It will be the environment itself reacting to us and us interacting with it as if it was our peer &#8211; which we know it won&#8217;t be! Not to mention the millions of robots of all kinds feeding themselves from and into this universally connected intelligence in order to do tasks they will decide on their own that would be appropriate.<br />
If this doesn&#8217;t make the whole &#8220;hacktivism&#8221; look like a mediocre cry for more rain I don&#8217;t know what else does. Just accept that the future will not play by any rules set out by anyone who resists it. It is futile. Funny to listen to the discourse nevertheless. But useless in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Shaddack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Shaddack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2012 00:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And digital cameras and washing machines (hey, a net-connected one would be great for houses with shared laundry room), and all sorts of other devices that have a computer in them anyway, just not in a visible way. These days if the thing&#039;s function is just a little bit complex, it is economical to put in a computer, whether a full-scale OS-containing one or just a microcontroller.

Things (ALL things) should be sold with their schematics. Does not have to be in paper form in the manual, but at least a downloadable PDF would be helpful. I would also certainly not complain if compilable source-codes for the firmware were available too. Just imagine all the sorts of possible hacks - without the slightest bit inconveniencing the &quot;regular users&quot; whom nobody forces to download and read the specs. And imagine the ability to figure out that the given device is a piece o&#039; crap by looking at its schematics before it is bought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And digital cameras and washing machines (hey, a net-connected one would be great for houses with shared laundry room), and all sorts of other devices that have a computer in them anyway, just not in a visible way. These days if the thing&#8217;s function is just a little bit complex, it is economical to put in a computer, whether a full-scale OS-containing one or just a microcontroller.</p>
<p>Things (ALL things) should be sold with their schematics. Does not have to be in paper form in the manual, but at least a downloadable PDF would be helpful. I would also certainly not complain if compilable source-codes for the firmware were available too. Just imagine all the sorts of possible hacks &#8211; without the slightest bit inconveniencing the &#8220;regular users&#8221; whom nobody forces to download and read the specs. And imagine the ability to figure out that the given device is a piece o&#8217; crap by looking at its schematics before it is bought.</p>
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		<title>By: Sim00</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html#comment-1307602</link>
		<dc:creator>Sim00</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve lived in England 28 years.
I&#039;ve never seen automatic transmission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve lived in England 28 years.<br />
I&#8217;ve never seen automatic transmission.</p>
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		<title>By: halfpress</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html#comment-1307456</link>
		<dc:creator>halfpress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 04:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By Cory&#039;s own admissions, he talks really fast... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Cory&#8217;s own admissions, he talks really fast&#8230; :)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Person</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 02:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is no one ranting about not being able to put their own programs on PS3s, Xboxes, Wiis, DSes, cable boxes, etc.? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is no one ranting about not being able to put their own programs on PS3s, Xboxes, Wiis, DSes, cable boxes, etc.? </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Person</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html#comment-1307379</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 02:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://cydia.saurik.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://cydia.saurik.com/" rel="nofollow">http://cydia.saurik.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Metro Issues :: Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metro Issues :: Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 01:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OpenOffice is about as user-friendly an office suite as I can imagine.  At least OO has never seen fit to screw up the UI (a la MS) or add all sorts of bells/whistles hardly anyone needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OpenOffice is about as user-friendly an office suite as I can imagine.  At least OO has never seen fit to screw up the UI (a la MS) or add all sorts of bells/whistles hardly anyone needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Shaddack</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html#comment-1306686</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Shaddack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They can illegalize whatever they want. Then it&#039;s on us and only on us if we will actually respect the bought law.  The law game is tilted towards them. The tech game is tilted towards us. Two bits of technology together with one bit of civil disobedience can buy a lot of freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can illegalize whatever they want. Then it&#8217;s on us and only on us if we will actually respect the bought law.  The law game is tilted towards them. The tech game is tilted towards us. Two bits of technology together with one bit of civil disobedience can buy a lot of freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: CognitiveDissident</title>
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		<dc:creator>CognitiveDissident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 03:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best Line:  
Freedom in the future will require us to have the capacity to monitor our devices ... to maintain them as honest servants to our will, and not as traitors and spies working for criminals, thugs, and control freaks.

Good Speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best Line: <br />
Freedom in the future will require us to have the capacity to monitor our devices &#8230; to maintain them as honest servants to our will, and not as traitors and spies working for criminals, thugs, and control freaks.</p>
<p>Good Speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and, in the case of NeoOffice, you are now required to pay for the abuse anyway&quot;

Thankfully, there&#039;s really no reason to use NeoOffice anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and, in the case of NeoOffice, you are now required to pay for the abuse anyway&#8221;</p>
<p>Thankfully, there&#8217;s really no reason to use NeoOffice anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can buy an unlocked (or used) iPhone, pop in a SIM card and use it.&quot;

You could, but depending on your carrier, they may enable a data plan without your permission.

Annoying, since it&#039;s entirely possible to use the things on a wifi network, courtesy wifi is available darn near everywhere, and carriers like it that way since wireless bandwidth is at a premium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can buy an unlocked (or used) iPhone, pop in a SIM card and use it.&#8221;</p>
<p>You could, but depending on your carrier, they may enable a data plan without your permission.</p>
<p>Annoying, since it&#8217;s entirely possible to use the things on a wifi network, courtesy wifi is available darn near everywhere, and carriers like it that way since wireless bandwidth is at a premium.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hey, today I put in $50 of gas to use a car I paid $20,000 to use.  It&#039;s not an analogy; I wish it was free, but it isn&#039;t.&quot;

You&#039;re right; it&#039;s not an analogy.  A better analogy would be if you bought a Toyota, and if you wanted to put an aftermarket car radio, you either had to have it done at the Toyota dealership, or have a certification to be a Toyota mechanic to buy the screwdriver for the Toyota-head screws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hey, today I put in $50 of gas to use a car I paid $20,000 to use.  It&#8217;s not an analogy; I wish it was free, but it isn&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right; it&#8217;s not an analogy.  A better analogy would be if you bought a Toyota, and if you wanted to put an aftermarket car radio, you either had to have it done at the Toyota dealership, or have a certification to be a Toyota mechanic to buy the screwdriver for the Toyota-head screws.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, let me just sell you my iPhone app, not available in the App Store.

Oh, right, I can&#039;t.  Well, I could, but I doubt it would do you any good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let me just sell you my iPhone app, not available in the App Store.</p>
<p>Oh, right, I can&#8217;t.  Well, I could, but I doubt it would do you any good.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same here.  I have two MP3 players here running Rockbox, two desktop PCs and two laptops running Fedora, and a Droid X2 running the Liberty ROM.  It scares the hell out of me that we have lawmakers who only represent lobbyists, and we have lobbyists trying to equate my use of Linux with piracy.  And the nonchalant attitude of people, represented here by retepslluerb (sorry, I have to) scares me as well.  It&#039;s the digital equivalent, IMHO, to &quot;you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide&quot; when people support measures such as the Patriot Act.

I don&#039;t WANT a future where I have to store my data on Google or Microsoft&#039;s cloud, and have to interact with it on a locked-down tablet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same here.  I have two MP3 players here running Rockbox, two desktop PCs and two laptops running Fedora, and a Droid X2 running the Liberty ROM.  It scares the hell out of me that we have lawmakers who only represent lobbyists, and we have lobbyists trying to equate my use of Linux with piracy.  And the nonchalant attitude of people, represented here by retepslluerb (sorry, I have to) scares me as well.  It&#8217;s the digital equivalent, IMHO, to &#8220;you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide&#8221; when people support measures such as the Patriot Act.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t WANT a future where I have to store my data on Google or Microsoft&#8217;s cloud, and have to interact with it on a locked-down tablet.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Simmons</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html#comment-1306596</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And instead of fixing it at root, people are supposed to fix it themselves via the magic of VLC.

&quot;That&#039;s basically like sloppy writing and letting the reader fix the mistake and stumble across badly edited text.&quot;

In the future, we might not even have the option--or right--to fix it ourselves in VLC.  That&#039;s a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And instead of fixing it at root, people are supposed to fix it themselves via the magic of VLC.</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s basically like sloppy writing and letting the reader fix the mistake and stumble across badly edited text.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the future, we might not even have the option&#8211;or right&#8211;to fix it ourselves in VLC.  That&#8217;s a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Shaddack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Shaddack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Handy when the batteries are dead.</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas Shaddack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Shaddack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are modchips available for some cars. The ECUs of many cars can also be tweaked for other set of tradeoffs than what the manufacturer intended (or was forced to by laws).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_tuning

There are also &quot;piggyback ECUs&quot;, which modify signals from the various sensors and trick the car&#039;s ECU to behave as the owner/operator desires.
http://forums.superstreetonline.com/70/1010816/ecu-tuning-electronics/engine-tuning-standalone-ecu-vs-piggy-back-ecu-eng/index.html

Various OBD/OBD2 interfaces and the corresponding software for using them are also available on the market.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-board_diagnostics

The methods change, but the car-hacking stays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are modchips available for some cars. The ECUs of many cars can also be tweaked for other set of tradeoffs than what the manufacturer intended (or was forced to by laws).<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_tuning" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_tuning</a></p>
<p>There are also &#8220;piggyback ECUs&#8221;, which modify signals from the various sensors and trick the car&#8217;s ECU to behave as the owner/operator desires.<br />
<a href="http://forums.superstreetonline.com/70/1010816/ecu-tuning-electronics/engine-tuning-standalone-ecu-vs-piggy-back-ecu-eng/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://forums.superstreetonline.com/70/1010816/ecu-tuning-electronics/engine-tuning-standalone-ecu-vs-piggy-back-ecu-eng/index.html</a></p>
<p>Various OBD/OBD2 interfaces and the corresponding software for using them are also available on the market.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-board_diagnostics" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-board_diagnostics</a></p>
<p>The methods change, but the car-hacking stays.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Shaddack</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html#comment-1306512</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Shaddack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it matter more what a thing intrinsically *IS*, or what it is sold as?

For example sorbitol is commonly sold as a sugar substitute. That does not preclude its use with potassium nitrate as a popular solid rocket propellant, aka &quot;rocket candy&quot;.

Why for example all digital cameras do not come with some script language interpreter like the CHDK is for Canon ones? Even better, an access to low-level hardware functions would allow relatively easy repurpose of the devices into lab-grade imaging/dataprocessing equipment, e.g. for low-cost medical imaging. Even just a serial console with basic commands could be enough for some such cases. And many many other &quot;non-general purpose devices&quot; are crippled by design in similar ways. The hardware is there, the software misses a few functions, and there is no way to put them in. MADDENING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it matter more what a thing intrinsically *IS*, or what it is sold as?</p>
<p>For example sorbitol is commonly sold as a sugar substitute. That does not preclude its use with potassium nitrate as a popular solid rocket propellant, aka &#8220;rocket candy&#8221;.</p>
<p>Why for example all digital cameras do not come with some script language interpreter like the CHDK is for Canon ones? Even better, an access to low-level hardware functions would allow relatively easy repurpose of the devices into lab-grade imaging/dataprocessing equipment, e.g. for low-cost medical imaging. Even just a serial console with basic commands could be enough for some such cases. And many many other &#8220;non-general purpose devices&#8221; are crippled by design in similar ways. The hardware is there, the software misses a few functions, and there is no way to put them in. MADDENING.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Shaddack</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html#comment-1306506</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Shaddack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s $99 more than it should be. In the tired world of car analogies (winter tires, on this hemisphere), it&#039;s like having to pay Ford to take hitchhikers or to put unapproved items (like a folding bike, or a said hitchhiker) into the trunk.

According to your logic, the option to pay Big Bucks to the vendor and signing a NDA is still an ability to run whatever I like - and the cost sticker pricingme out is just &quot;quibbling about price&quot;. 

Running own code on a device is not a payware privilege, it is an unalienable right. Giving up warranty is an acceptable cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s $99 more than it should be. In the tired world of car analogies (winter tires, on this hemisphere), it&#8217;s like having to pay Ford to take hitchhikers or to put unapproved items (like a folding bike, or a said hitchhiker) into the trunk.</p>
<p>According to your logic, the option to pay Big Bucks to the vendor and signing a NDA is still an ability to run whatever I like &#8211; and the cost sticker pricingme out is just &#8220;quibbling about price&#8221;. </p>
<p>Running own code on a device is not a payware privilege, it is an unalienable right. Giving up warranty is an acceptable cost.</p>
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		<title>By: DeargDoom</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html#comment-1306466</link>
		<dc:creator>DeargDoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I actually haven&#039;t watched Cory&#039;s keynote...
Disagreement I can stand, but I found many of his articles about this topic and privacy to be factually wrong, sloppily researched  and spun in a yellow-press manner. Therefore, I do not spend time on those anymore.&lt;/blockquote&gt;This is an incredible statement. Not only have you spent time on Cory&#039;s post but you are the main poster on the comment thread.

You complain that Cory&#039;s articles are sloppily researched but, by your own admission, have not even bothered to listen to what he has to say before disagreeing with it.

You also state that many of his articles are factually wrong and contain spin yet your posts contain numerous errors, all of which seem to favour a particular perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I actually haven&#8217;t watched Cory&#8217;s keynote&#8230;<br />
Disagreement I can stand, but I found many of his articles about this topic and privacy to be factually wrong, sloppily researched  and spun in a yellow-press manner. Therefore, I do not spend time on those anymore.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is an incredible statement. Not only have you spent time on Cory&#8217;s post but you are the main poster on the comment thread.</p>
<p>You complain that Cory&#8217;s articles are sloppily researched but, by your own admission, have not even bothered to listen to what he has to say before disagreeing with it.</p>
<p>You also state that many of his articles are factually wrong and contain spin yet your posts contain numerous errors, all of which seem to favour a particular perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 19:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Walled gardens do play all these contents. ... Even that choppy one. ... My texts can be reread ...&lt;/blockquote&gt;Ok, so then I reread this:&lt;blockquote&gt;This, by the way, is a pretty good example why walled gardens are getting more popular than the open wild.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;re contradicting yourself.

Also, in the walled garden you&#039;re pretty much stuck with the out-of-sync video.  Out in the wild, you&#039;re free to use tools like VLC to correct the sync.

If anything, this video shows why open source is vital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Walled gardens do play all these contents. &#8230; Even that choppy one. &#8230; My texts can be reread &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Ok, so then I reread this:<br />
<blockquote>This, by the way, is a pretty good example why walled gardens are getting more popular than the open wild.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re contradicting yourself.</p>
<p>Also, in the walled garden you&#8217;re pretty much stuck with the out-of-sync video.  Out in the wild, you&#8217;re free to use tools like VLC to correct the sync.</p>
<p>If anything, this video shows why open source is vital.</p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nikolaos_Venturas  Sorry, disqus is a hazard to discussion.  It keeps auto-changing your nym to &quot;nathan hand&quot;, for example, in this attempt at reply.  And apparently it&#039;s got a reply limit, too.  And now it&#039;s eliminated all my paragraph breaks... editing again.

The things I mentioned were widely and complacently accepted until they were struck down by a very small determined group who were not willing to accept &quot;the vast majority is happy with... blah blah blah&quot; as a reason for inaction.  Instead, these small groups mounted successful long-term campaigns to &lt;i&gt;change&lt;/i&gt; what the &quot;vast majority&quot; wanted.  The greatest example, of course, is slavery - (and I&#039;ve already been castigated for bringing a huge social issue into a discussion of, er, ...a huge social issue, so I may as well keep going).  The vast majority of humans were perfectly happy with the institution of slavery, they just &lt;i&gt;didn&#039;t want to be slaves themselves&lt;/i&gt;.  For most of human history a world without slaves has been nearly inconceivable, yet, today the people who still practice slavery are a backwards minority, and many otherwise enlightened people think (falsely) that slavery has actually been eliminated.

Cory is attempting to be one of those key voices, who through sheer damned persistence, cause change in &quot;the vast majority&quot; of people&#039;s attitudes.  Blithely dismissing the changes he wishes to see as impossible or meaningless, because they do not coincide with the Mobbe&#039;s current attitudes, is failing to see the whole point of what he&#039;s doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nikolaos_Venturas  Sorry, disqus is a hazard to discussion.  It keeps auto-changing your nym to &#8220;nathan hand&#8221;, for example, in this attempt at reply.  And apparently it&#8217;s got a reply limit, too.  And now it&#8217;s eliminated all my paragraph breaks&#8230; editing again.</p>
<p>The things I mentioned were widely and complacently accepted until they were struck down by a very small determined group who were not willing to accept &#8220;the vast majority is happy with&#8230; blah blah blah&#8221; as a reason for inaction.  Instead, these small groups mounted successful long-term campaigns to <i>change</i> what the &#8220;vast majority&#8221; wanted.  The greatest example, of course, is slavery &#8211; (and I&#8217;ve already been castigated for bringing a huge social issue into a discussion of, er, &#8230;a huge social issue, so I may as well keep going).  The vast majority of humans were perfectly happy with the institution of slavery, they just <i>didn&#8217;t want to be slaves themselves</i>.  For most of human history a world without slaves has been nearly inconceivable, yet, today the people who still practice slavery are a backwards minority, and many otherwise enlightened people think (falsely) that slavery has actually been eliminated.</p>
<p>Cory is attempting to be one of those key voices, who through sheer damned persistence, cause change in &#8220;the vast majority&#8221; of people&#8217;s attitudes.  Blithely dismissing the changes he wishes to see as impossible or meaningless, because they do not coincide with the Mobbe&#8217;s current attitudes, is failing to see the whole point of what he&#8217;s doing.</p>
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		<title>By: retepslluerb</title>
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		<dc:creator>retepslluerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you confused the intended recipients of your reply. Yours reads like it should be directed to me.

I do in no way doubt that people do lose access to their accounts. “Free” services are especially prone to this, as their incentive to correct this is nil, as their business models usually do not allow good end-user support. Note that I don&#039;t write “customer”, because free users aren&#039;t customers.   Google - to pick up on your examples - has actually a quite good customer services, from what I hear of my colleagues who pay for these services. 

Yes, it sucks, if those services become unavailable. But only a cheapskate or an idiot - or an idiot cheapskate - would base his business on stuff like this, especially when he or she doesn&#039;t keep a secondary backup.  

One can still be dependent on a single company.   Any developer who does just iOS stuff, for example, though I&#039;ll note that it&#039;s most of the time actually easy to stay within the prescribed rules.   Or when you are dealing exclusively with Trader&#039;s Joe/ALDI  and manage to lose that contract. 

But otherwise, no, there haven&#039;t been many instances of being “enslaved by bigCompany”, unless the “enslaved” were betting on a free ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you confused the intended recipients of your reply. Yours reads like it should be directed to me.</p>
<p>I do in no way doubt that people do lose access to their accounts. “Free” services are especially prone to this, as their incentive to correct this is nil, as their business models usually do not allow good end-user support. Note that I don&#8217;t write “customer”, because free users aren&#8217;t customers.   Google &#8211; to pick up on your examples &#8211; has actually a quite good customer services, from what I hear of my colleagues who pay for these services. </p>
<p>Yes, it sucks, if those services become unavailable. But only a cheapskate or an idiot &#8211; or an idiot cheapskate &#8211; would base his business on stuff like this, especially when he or she doesn&#8217;t keep a secondary backup.  </p>
<p>One can still be dependent on a single company.   Any developer who does just iOS stuff, for example, though I&#8217;ll note that it&#8217;s most of the time actually easy to stay within the prescribed rules.   Or when you are dealing exclusively with Trader&#8217;s Joe/ALDI  and manage to lose that contract. </p>
<p>But otherwise, no, there haven&#8217;t been many instances of being “enslaved by bigCompany”, unless the “enslaved” were betting on a free ride.</p>
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		<title>By: guanto</title>
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		<dc:creator>guanto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, _you_ claimed something, provided no sources and demand that people who doubt your claim should provide sources? Genius!

Yes, many of the things mentioned here _could_ be done with cloud apps; this just wasn&#039;t true in the past. Many things need low latency to work well. A great many things _are_ available remotely, some work better locally.

And then you have things that you can&#039;t explain away: before word processors with input methods for complex characters on personal computers, printing a Japanese contract took a day, after that ten minutes. There just was no mainframe option, an no usable one could have been developed back in the day. Not untypical, as you claim.

Regarding &quot;bloated licensing costs,&quot; the reality in large enterprises is that they just get a general catch-all license from Microsoft that is based on the rough number of _users_ and doesn&#039;t require them to account for individual copies. That&#039;s a contract, subject to negotiation like all contracts. Like it or not, Microsoft provides solutions that work well and with minimal futzing around (and I used to be a hardcore Linux guy).

In closing, I&#039;ll just say that in my experience most problems with PCs (only laptops in our case, by the thousands) are hardware problems; in which case you give the user a working identical laptop, swap the HDD and send the computer in if it&#039;s something serious. Honestly, IT _can_ be managed so that users experience minimal problems. Failure to do so does not mean it&#039;s impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, _you_ claimed something, provided no sources and demand that people who doubt your claim should provide sources? Genius!</p>
<p>Yes, many of the things mentioned here _could_ be done with cloud apps; this just wasn&#8217;t true in the past. Many things need low latency to work well. A great many things _are_ available remotely, some work better locally.</p>
<p>And then you have things that you can&#8217;t explain away: before word processors with input methods for complex characters on personal computers, printing a Japanese contract took a day, after that ten minutes. There just was no mainframe option, an no usable one could have been developed back in the day. Not untypical, as you claim.</p>
<p>Regarding &#8220;bloated licensing costs,&#8221; the reality in large enterprises is that they just get a general catch-all license from Microsoft that is based on the rough number of _users_ and doesn&#8217;t require them to account for individual copies. That&#8217;s a contract, subject to negotiation like all contracts. Like it or not, Microsoft provides solutions that work well and with minimal futzing around (and I used to be a hardcore Linux guy).</p>
<p>In closing, I&#8217;ll just say that in my experience most problems with PCs (only laptops in our case, by the thousands) are hardware problems; in which case you give the user a working identical laptop, swap the HDD and send the computer in if it&#8217;s something serious. Honestly, IT _can_ be managed so that users experience minimal problems. Failure to do so does not mean it&#8217;s impossible.</p>
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