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	<title>Comments on: Wednesday-Weird-Bible-Verse: 200 foreskins as a wedding price for a&#160;bride</title>
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		<title>By: DoctorD</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1307781</link>
		<dc:creator>DoctorD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can save some time (and avoid the weekly apologetics of &quot;god working in mysterious ways&quot;) by listening to Matt Dillahunty paraphrase many of the unpalatable stories from the bible:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9J1_VLxJfM

This is most uncomfortable stuff if your religious experience has been limited to the warm fuzzy of &quot;god is love&quot; and the fatalism of &quot;god will provide.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can save some time (and avoid the weekly apologetics of &#8220;god working in mysterious ways&#8221;) by listening to Matt Dillahunty paraphrase many of the unpalatable stories from the bible:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9J1_VLxJfM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9J1_VLxJfM</a></p>
<p>This is most uncomfortable stuff if your religious experience has been limited to the warm fuzzy of &#8220;god is love&#8221; and the fatalism of &#8220;god will provide.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Actionverb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306720</link>
		<dc:creator>Actionverb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok.  Assuming you apologize for the O.T. god&#039;s bloodthirstiness adequately (and I admit I haven&#039;t read the books you refer to, though if I recall correctly, Richard Dawkins deals with at least one of them in his excellent &quot;The God Delusion&quot;), how do you explain the divine inspiration of 1 Kings 7, verses 23-26:
&quot;Now he made the sea [or cauldron, or bath, depending on the translation you&#039;re reading] of cast metal ten cubits from brim to brim, circular in form, and its height was five cubits, and thirty cubits in circumference.&quot;Now, I&#039;m no math whiz, but if it&#039;s 30 cubits around and 10 cubits across, that makes pi come out to be exactly 3, which we all know it isn&#039;t.  I&#039;ve read ridiculous attempts to explain this, but the fact is that the passage was written by someone whose knowledge of math was limited and who thought pi was exactly 3.  If the Bible were divinely inspired by an all-knowing god, he/she/it would know better.

If you believe in the Old Testament as divine truth, you believe in talking snakes, talking donkeys, chariots of fire, bushes which burn without being consumed (belying the definition of &quot;burning&quot;), and a man surviving for days in the belly of a fish.  I prefer to have a rational view of the world where such things are relegated to fantasy books and films where they belong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok.  Assuming you apologize for the O.T. god&#8217;s bloodthirstiness adequately (and I admit I haven&#8217;t read the books you refer to, though if I recall correctly, Richard Dawkins deals with at least one of them in his excellent &#8220;The God Delusion&#8221;), how do you explain the divine inspiration of 1 Kings 7, verses 23-26:<br />
&#8220;Now he made the sea [or cauldron, or bath, depending on the translation you're reading] of cast metal ten cubits from brim to brim, circular in form, and its height was five cubits, and thirty cubits in circumference.&#8221;Now, I&#8217;m no math whiz, but if it&#8217;s 30 cubits around and 10 cubits across, that makes pi come out to be exactly 3, which we all know it isn&#8217;t.  I&#8217;ve read ridiculous attempts to explain this, but the fact is that the passage was written by someone whose knowledge of math was limited and who thought pi was exactly 3.  If the Bible were divinely inspired by an all-knowing god, he/she/it would know better.</p>
<p>If you believe in the Old Testament as divine truth, you believe in talking snakes, talking donkeys, chariots of fire, bushes which burn without being consumed (belying the definition of &#8220;burning&#8221;), and a man surviving for days in the belly of a fish.  I prefer to have a rational view of the world where such things are relegated to fantasy books and films where they belong.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnBerry</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306683</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnBerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, well. I was hoping...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, well. I was hoping&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Petzl</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306527</link>
		<dc:creator>Petzl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tl;dr you may not believe, but there are others who do.  isn&#039;t that proof enough?  

there are many and famous intelligent people who are alcoholics; this doesn&#039;t motivate me to go out and start a drinking regimen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tl;dr you may not believe, but there are others who do.  isn&#8217;t that proof enough?  </p>
<p>there are many and famous intelligent people who are alcoholics; this doesn&#8217;t motivate me to go out and start a drinking regimen.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kimball</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kimball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DoctorD - I have heard bits of Julia&#039;s story but just bought the DVD of her &quot;Letting Go of God&quot;  after listening to a little from your links. Thank you for recommending it. I look forward to hearing her story as our backgrounds and early experiences with church and Christianity often shape where we end up. I love hearing stories of why someone comes to the conclusions they do. So look forward to hearing the full Julia story on the DVD i just ordered. Thank you! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DoctorD &#8211; I have heard bits of Julia&#8217;s story but just bought the DVD of her &#8220;Letting Go of God&#8221;  after listening to a little from your links. Thank you for recommending it. I look forward to hearing her story as our backgrounds and early experiences with church and Christianity often shape where we end up. I love hearing stories of why someone comes to the conclusions they do. So look forward to hearing the full Julia story on the DVD i just ordered. Thank you! </p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kimball</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306419</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kimball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello DoctorD! 

I totally understand what you are saying as I had the same original feelings. I didn&#039;t grow up in a Christian home or ever read the Bible seriously until later in life, and then it was some of the same responses you express here is what I had. Obviously too short a space to get into a discussion here (if you ever seriously wanted to talk more, always feel free to contact me). 

I can say that it isn&#039;t just blind irrational faith for someone like myself to believe in the inspiration of the Bible or that God exists. You have to define (inspiration&quot; as that does not mean every word is to be taken literally in how you interpret it). But there are rational intelligent people who do believe in God and the Bible such as Kevin Kelly who is the founder of Wired Magazine (and he is public about his faith and the church he is part of in San Francisco) or  Dr. Francis Collins who is a physician and geneticist and founder of the Human Genome Project which I imagine you have heard of. Francis has a web site based on science and faith you may find interesting  http://www.biologos.org   Or Peter Hitchens, who is a journalist, and was an atheist like his brother Christopher Hitchens was. But he became a Christian and is public about it. 

Anyway, I raise up these three here as there are rational thinkers who do have reasons for belief. You can also watch debates with someone like Bart Erhman (I have a professor friend who debated him recently about his view of the Bible  and it is on DVD and I would be happy to send you a copy if you are interested). Someone like Bart Erhman has arguments that aren&#039;t all that solid as he claims when you hear counter-arguments by other scholars. I have watched several debates with Bart Erhman and without truly being bias, Bart does not come out on top each time by any means when he is faced with scholars who know what Bart is talking about from an academic level. I have all his books too as I love reading all types of thinking out there. 

I do totally appreciate varying viewpoints and I do understand what you are saying.  But do know there are people who hold beliefs in God and the Bible and have studied and thought through these types of issues that aren&#039;t just taking it all at surface value or can&#039;t intelligently wrestle with things in the Bible or have to accept things blindly at all. 

Thank you for taking the time to express your thoughts on what I wrote. I take your words very seriously and don&#039;t just brush off people who may not agree with me as not being valid. Thank you!

Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello DoctorD! </p>
<p>I totally understand what you are saying as I had the same original feelings. I didn&#8217;t grow up in a Christian home or ever read the Bible seriously until later in life, and then it was some of the same responses you express here is what I had. Obviously too short a space to get into a discussion here (if you ever seriously wanted to talk more, always feel free to contact me). </p>
<p>I can say that it isn&#8217;t just blind irrational faith for someone like myself to believe in the inspiration of the Bible or that God exists. You have to define (inspiration&#8221; as that does not mean every word is to be taken literally in how you interpret it). But there are rational intelligent people who do believe in God and the Bible such as Kevin Kelly who is the founder of Wired Magazine (and he is public about his faith and the church he is part of in San Francisco) or  Dr. Francis Collins who is a physician and geneticist and founder of the Human Genome Project which I imagine you have heard of. Francis has a web site based on science and faith you may find interesting  http://www.biologos.org   Or Peter Hitchens, who is a journalist, and was an atheist like his brother Christopher Hitchens was. But he became a Christian and is public about it. </p>
<p>Anyway, I raise up these three here as there are rational thinkers who do have reasons for belief. You can also watch debates with someone like Bart Erhman (I have a professor friend who debated him recently about his view of the Bible  and it is on DVD and I would be happy to send you a copy if you are interested). Someone like Bart Erhman has arguments that aren&#8217;t all that solid as he claims when you hear counter-arguments by other scholars. I have watched several debates with Bart Erhman and without truly being bias, Bart does not come out on top each time by any means when he is faced with scholars who know what Bart is talking about from an academic level. I have all his books too as I love reading all types of thinking out there. </p>
<p>I do totally appreciate varying viewpoints and I do understand what you are saying.  But do know there are people who hold beliefs in God and the Bible and have studied and thought through these types of issues that aren&#8217;t just taking it all at surface value or can&#8217;t intelligently wrestle with things in the Bible or have to accept things blindly at all. </p>
<p>Thank you for taking the time to express your thoughts on what I wrote. I take your words very seriously and don&#8217;t just brush off people who may not agree with me as not being valid. Thank you!</p>
<p>Dan</p>
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		<title>By: JohnBerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnBerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not what I was thinking. Maybe Dan will check back to continue the conversation.</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Kimball</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kimball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 19:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally understand what you are saying and why. If you are ever interested in looking into the cultural context and some ways of trying to make sense of this, there are some good books by a professor of ethics Paul Copan &quot;Is God A Moral Monster: Making Sense of the Old Testament God&quot; and also a Hebrew and Old Testament Professor named David Lamb (who didn&#039;t grow up in a Christian home and later became a Christian) who wrote a book called &quot;God Behaving Badly: Is The God of the Old Testament Angry, Racist and Sexist?&quot;  They were helpful to me with the very thing you are very understandably raising up here. So your thoughts are very valid and do need to be addressed. I appreciate your response and I had the same response too. That is why I ended up studying a lot to see what was happening there and how was the Old Testament written etc. I do appreciate your comments as it is exactly how I felt as well. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally understand what you are saying and why. If you are ever interested in looking into the cultural context and some ways of trying to make sense of this, there are some good books by a professor of ethics Paul Copan &#8220;Is God A Moral Monster: Making Sense of the Old Testament God&#8221; and also a Hebrew and Old Testament Professor named David Lamb (who didn&#8217;t grow up in a Christian home and later became a Christian) who wrote a book called &#8220;God Behaving Badly: Is The God of the Old Testament Angry, Racist and Sexist?&#8221;  They were helpful to me with the very thing you are very understandably raising up here. So your thoughts are very valid and do need to be addressed. I appreciate your response and I had the same response too. That is why I ended up studying a lot to see what was happening there and how was the Old Testament written etc. I do appreciate your comments as it is exactly how I felt as well. </p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kimball</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306396</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kimball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 19:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have that book and appreciate what Ken raised in it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have that book and appreciate what Ken raised in it. </p>
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		<title>By: DoctorD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DoctorD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julia Sweeny has some cogent comments on this subject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2PxNE2hUhg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICcU_GesOCU&amp;feature=related

That&#039;s where an analysis of these Wednesday-Weird bible verses must inevitably lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia Sweeny has some cogent comments on this subject:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2PxNE2hUhg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2PxNE2hUhg</a><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICcU_GesOCU&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICcU_GesOCU&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s where an analysis of these Wednesday-Weird bible verses must inevitably lead.</p>
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		<title>By: DoctorD</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306354</link>
		<dc:creator>DoctorD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Kimball may be one of your oldest friends, but I&#039;m very disappointed that, faced with the immoral silliness of the bible tall-tales he&#039;s blogging about every Wednesday, he can&#039;t come to the logical conclusion:  The bible is not &quot;god-breathed&quot; but nothing more than the stories of a primitive iron-age society. Rather than thrashing-about for meaning in the bible, recognize that it is man-made, and hence holds no ultimate truth. Former fundamentalists like Bart Ehrman can do it; so can you!

There are no gods. There is no supernatural. There is no after-life. Morality comes from man, and this is our one shot at existence.

Deal with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan Kimball may be one of your oldest friends, but I&#8217;m very disappointed that, faced with the immoral silliness of the bible tall-tales he&#8217;s blogging about every Wednesday, he can&#8217;t come to the logical conclusion:  The bible is not &#8220;god-breathed&#8221; but nothing more than the stories of a primitive iron-age society. Rather than thrashing-about for meaning in the bible, recognize that it is man-made, and hence holds no ultimate truth. Former fundamentalists like Bart Ehrman can do it; so can you!</p>
<p>There are no gods. There is no supernatural. There is no after-life. Morality comes from man, and this is our one shot at existence.</p>
<p>Deal with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rks1157</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rks1157</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many religions have body-part stories.  Buddhist folklore tells a story of Angulimala.  A guy who was set on the task of collecting one thousand little fingers from the right hand as an homage to his teacher.  He wore them around his neck because the crows kept stealing them from him. Angulimala means finger-garland.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many religions have body-part stories.  Buddhist folklore tells a story of Angulimala.  A guy who was set on the task of collecting one thousand little fingers from the right hand as an homage to his teacher.  He wore them around his neck because the crows kept stealing them from him. Angulimala means finger-garland.  </p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Riddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler Riddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew the bible was full of lies. I typed that code into Contra and nothing happened! </description>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Doxtator-Morenberg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306277</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Doxtator-Morenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he didn&#039;t have enough, would David have come up short?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he didn&#8217;t have enough, would David have come up short?</p>
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		<title>By: Actionverb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Actionverb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Old Testament is written by barbarians for barbarians.  I don&#039;t see how any decent human being could believe that it&#039;s the inspired word of a kind and loving god when it contains verses like, 

&quot;8 O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us- 9 he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.&quot;
--Psalm 137, verses 8 &amp; 9 by god&#039;s favorite foreskin harvister King David.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Old Testament is written by barbarians for barbarians.  I don&#8217;t see how any decent human being could believe that it&#8217;s the inspired word of a kind and loving god when it contains verses like, </p>
<p>&#8220;8 O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us- 9 he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.&#8221;<br />
&#8211;Psalm 137, verses 8 &amp; 9 by god&#8217;s favorite foreskin harvister King David.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul McGibboney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul McGibboney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A dangling.</description>
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		<title>By: Geoduck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoduck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An amusing book that goes into this sort of stuff in loving detail is &quot;Ken&#039;s Guide to the Bible&quot; by Ken Smith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An amusing book that goes into this sort of stuff in loving detail is &#8220;Ken&#8217;s Guide to the Bible&#8221; by Ken Smith.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 11:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See how interesting studying the Old Testacle can be?</description>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &#039;stretch&#039;.</description>
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		<title>By: Ashen Victor</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306209</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashen Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hint... God is an asshole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hint&#8230; God is an asshole.</p>
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		<title>By: Petzl</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306196</link>
		<dc:creator>Petzl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 08:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that any document that has survived over 2600 years deserves attention.  It is a record of bronze-age man groping for a universal set of ethics. but, and I&#039;ll check my watch, we&#039;re no longer in the bronze age.  It should be respected for what it is, not what it purports to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that any document that has survived over 2600 years deserves attention.  It is a record of bronze-age man groping for a universal set of ethics. but, and I&#8217;ll check my watch, we&#8217;re no longer in the bronze age.  It should be respected for what it is, not what it purports to be.</p>
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		<title>By: mypalmike</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306193</link>
		<dc:creator>mypalmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 07:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting a good grip is only the first step - ritualistic circumcision flirts with homosexuality and pedophilia even more than this.  Jewish law requires the mohel performing a circumcision to suck the blood from the child&#039;s penis.  This is called metzitzeh, and is still practiced by some.  Others use a straw and a glass to be, you know, not weird or anything while mutilating a child&#039;s genitalia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting a good grip is only the first step &#8211; ritualistic circumcision flirts with homosexuality and pedophilia even more than this.  Jewish law requires the mohel performing a circumcision to suck the blood from the child&#8217;s penis.  This is called metzitzeh, and is still practiced by some.  Others use a straw and a glass to be, you know, not weird or anything while mutilating a child&#8217;s genitalia.</p>
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		<title>By: Just_Ok</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306185</link>
		<dc:creator>Just_Ok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 07:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tip your waitress</description>
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		<title>By: Mitchell Glaser</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306184</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitchell Glaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 07:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing I like more than smoking a good fatling.</description>
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		<title>By: Macgruder</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306183</link>
		<dc:creator>Macgruder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 07:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the image in this post ^^ relevant to the discussion?
It only looks like a foreskin if I squint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the image in this post ^^ relevant to the discussion?<br />
It only looks like a foreskin if I squint.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Saul</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306173</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Saul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 06:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting a kick... oh never mind. Too obvious.

My favorite aspect of the story, though, is the reason Gawd turned against Saul.

It was because Saul was insufficiently thorough in his gawd-ordered genocide.

&quot;Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.&quot;

&quot;But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them: but everything that was despised and worthless, that they destroyed utterly.&quot;

&quot;Then came the word of the LORD unto Samuel, saying, It grieves me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he has turned back from following me, and has not performed my commandments. And it grieved Samuel; and he cried unto the LORD all night.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting a kick&#8230; oh never mind. Too obvious.</p>
<p>My favorite aspect of the story, though, is the reason Gawd turned against Saul.</p>
<p>It was because Saul was insufficiently thorough in his gawd-ordered genocide.</p>
<p>&#8220;Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them: but everything that was despised and worthless, that they destroyed utterly.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Then came the word of the LORD unto Samuel, saying, It grieves me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he has turned back from following me, and has not performed my commandments. And it grieved Samuel; and he cried unto the LORD all night.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dreadpiraterobert</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306172</link>
		<dc:creator>dreadpiraterobert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 06:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always enjoyed the bit in Genesis (34:13-29 or so... earlier if you want the backstory) where the Israelites agree to peace terms, which meant that all the other guys had their foreskins removed so as to be one big happy family.  Then, on the third day, &quot;when they were sore&quot; (best line), Jacob, Simeon, and Levi sneak in and kill them all.  Because, you know, they&#039;re sore and can&#039;t fight well.  Hahaha, suckers!  got yer foreskins AND you&#039;re dead!  

No wonder there are so many Christians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always enjoyed the bit in Genesis (34:13-29 or so&#8230; earlier if you want the backstory) where the Israelites agree to peace terms, which meant that all the other guys had their foreskins removed so as to be one big happy family.  Then, on the third day, &#8220;when they were sore&#8221; (best line), Jacob, Simeon, and Levi sneak in and kill them all.  Because, you know, they&#8217;re sore and can&#8217;t fight well.  Hahaha, suckers!  got yer foreskins AND you&#8217;re dead!  </p>
<p>No wonder there are so many Christians.</p>
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		<title>By: hypersomniac</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306168</link>
		<dc:creator>hypersomniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 05:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Use the force, kin.</description>
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		<title>By: futnuh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306166</link>
		<dc:creator>futnuh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 05:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Saul moved house, I&#039;m guessing he left the 200 foreskins in his kitchen - thus spawning the millennia-old tradition of leaving a drawer full of rubber bands for the next tenant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Saul moved house, I&#8217;m guessing he left the 200 foreskins in his kitchen &#8211; thus spawning the millennia-old tradition of leaving a drawer full of rubber bands for the next tenant.</p>
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		<title>By: Pedantic Douchebag</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/28/wednesday-weird-bible-verse-1.html#comment-1306132</link>
		<dc:creator>Pedantic Douchebag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 04:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, he &lt;b&gt;did&lt;/b&gt; drive a bright red chariot...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, he <b>did</b> drive a bright red chariot&#8230;</p>
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