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		<title>By: Kerri Hicks</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1312553</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerri Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget about all the DNA you&#039;re harboring from the cows and pigs and chickens and tomatoes and stuff that you eat. Mmmm yummy DNA soup! http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg15320637.800-science--can-dna-in-food-find-its-way-into-cells.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget about all the DNA you&#8217;re harboring from the cows and pigs and chickens and tomatoes and stuff that you eat. Mmmm yummy DNA soup! http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg15320637.800-science&#8211;can-dna-in-food-find-its-way-into-cells.html</p>
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		<title>By: Kerri Hicks</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1312548</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerri Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or vasculitis, either, for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or vasculitis, either, for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: GodlessHeathenLiberalSocialist</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1312527</link>
		<dc:creator>GodlessHeathenLiberalSocialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 17:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How many people have left their DNA in us?&quot; Giggity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How many people have left their DNA in us?&#8221; Giggity</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Rogers</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1311992</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 04:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this so beautiful and touching. Just so lovely to know they&#039;ll always be a part of me no matter how far they may travel and explore &lt;3
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this so beautiful and touching. Just so lovely to know they&#8217;ll always be a part of me no matter how far they may travel and explore &lt;3</p>
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		<title>By: A. Ambrosini</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1311640</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Ambrosini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 22:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Augh, you&#039;re being requoted (kottke) on details you got wrong.

&quot;In the first trimester, one out of every fifty thousand cells in her body are from her baby-to-be (this is how some noninvasive prenatal tests check for genetic disorders). In the second and third trimesters, the count is up to one out of every thousand maternal cells.&quot;

Your numbers are for the fraction of fetal cells in the BLOOD, which constitute a very small fraction of the total number of cells in the mother&#039;s BODY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Augh, you&#8217;re being requoted (kottke) on details you got wrong.</p>
<p>&#8220;In the first trimester, one out of every fifty thousand cells in her body are from her baby-to-be (this is how some noninvasive prenatal tests check for genetic disorders). In the second and third trimesters, the count is up to one out of every thousand maternal cells.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your numbers are for the fraction of fetal cells in the BLOOD, which constitute a very small fraction of the total number of cells in the mother&#8217;s BODY.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1311111</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not saying anything. I am simply sharing the NCI&#039;s claims. They also say that &quot; Breast cancer risk is transiently increased after a term pregnancy. (1).&quot; I am not a scientist, I don&#039;t know how much of that is true. As a 30 year old woman who chose to not have children,  I am definitely not saying that in order to have a healthy life  women should have children.  I&#039;ve known women who had children early and still had breast cancer, so I think it&#039;s more complicated than that. But again, this is just my experience. If I ended up having cancer because I did not procreate, I will deal with it, but I will never tell what women should do with their bodies.  (Forgive my grammar, English is my second language).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not saying anything. I am simply sharing the NCI&#8217;s claims. They also say that &#8221; Breast cancer risk is transiently increased after a term pregnancy. (1).&#8221; I am not a scientist, I don&#8217;t know how much of that is true. As a 30 year old woman who chose to not have children,  I am definitely not saying that in order to have a healthy life  women should have children.  I&#8217;ve known women who had children early and still had breast cancer, so I think it&#8217;s more complicated than that. But again, this is just my experience. If I ended up having cancer because I did not procreate, I will deal with it, but I will never tell what women should do with their bodies.  (Forgive my grammar, English is my second language).</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310932</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 07:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Researchers looking at centuries of records in Britain determined that the fewer the children (including none), the longer the woman will live.  And the older the woman when she has her first child, the longer she&#039;ll live.  Despite the breast cancer risk, having children still shortens your lifespan. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Researchers looking at centuries of records in Britain determined that the fewer the children (including none), the longer the woman will live.  And the older the woman when she has her first child, the longer she&#8217;ll live.  Despite the breast cancer risk, having children still shortens your lifespan. </p>
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		<title>By: rattypilgrim</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310917</link>
		<dc:creator>rattypilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Diane,  Nulliparous? Get real. Get human. Again, cold comfort. Yikes! Exactly what I mean. Get pregnant before 30 or suffer the consequences. I don&#039;t buy it. What you are saying is for a woman&#039;s best chance of a healthy life she has to have children. Why do these rules never apply to men?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Diane,  Nulliparous? Get real. Get human. Again, cold comfort. Yikes! Exactly what I mean. Get pregnant before 30 or suffer the consequences. I don&#8217;t buy it. What you are saying is for a woman&#8217;s best chance of a healthy life she has to have children. Why do these rules never apply to men?</p>
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		<title>By: rattypilgrim</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310914</link>
		<dc:creator>rattypilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, are you saying a woman who has her first birth when she&#039;s 30  has the same risk of a woman who has never given birth? I mean, the story line for the past 30 years has been a woman is more likely to develop breast cancer if she has never had children. I think they even cited statistics from women in convents. Well, cold comfort all around, I&#039;d say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, are you saying a woman who has her first birth when she&#8217;s 30  has the same risk of a woman who has never given birth? I mean, the story line for the past 30 years has been a woman is more likely to develop breast cancer if she has never had children. I think they even cited statistics from women in convents. Well, cold comfort all around, I&#8217;d say.</p>
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		<title>By: CAKTwo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310905</link>
		<dc:creator>CAKTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was about to reply with this fact as well! It is NOT that the mother&#039;s body is attacking the &quot;other&quot; better and ignoring the mother, it is that the mother&#039;s body has lowered her ability to attack anything (sperm, fetus, the mother, common infections, etc). I have multiple sclerosis which I was diagnosed with years before my pregnancy (and which I most likely suffered from for the decade prior to diagnosis). Pregnancy was one of the best times of my life as my MS was in full remission. It remained so until about 4 months after pregnancy where my body flared up with one of the worst exacerbations I&#039;ve ever had. Right now they are researching how to administer this immunosuppressive in a pill form to help decrease the effect of autoimmune diseases on the body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was about to reply with this fact as well! It is NOT that the mother&#8217;s body is attacking the &#8220;other&#8221; better and ignoring the mother, it is that the mother&#8217;s body has lowered her ability to attack anything (sperm, fetus, the mother, common infections, etc). I have multiple sclerosis which I was diagnosed with years before my pregnancy (and which I most likely suffered from for the decade prior to diagnosis). Pregnancy was one of the best times of my life as my MS was in full remission. It remained so until about 4 months after pregnancy where my body flared up with one of the worst exacerbations I&#8217;ve ever had. Right now they are researching how to administer this immunosuppressive in a pill form to help decrease the effect of autoimmune diseases on the body.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310890</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to  National Cancer Institute, the risk of a nulliparous woman having breast cancer is approximately the same as a woman with a first term birth around the age of 30. 
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/causes/ere/workshop-report</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to  National Cancer Institute, the risk of a nulliparous woman having breast cancer is approximately the same as a woman with a first term birth around the age of 30.<br />
<a href="http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/causes/ere/workshop-report" rel="nofollow">http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/causes/ere/workshop-report</a></p>
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		<title>By: cdh1971</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310802</link>
		<dc:creator>cdh1971</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 01:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahem...</description>
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		<title>By: Sekino</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310793</link>
		<dc:creator>Sekino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 01:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had a fantastic pregnancy, enjoyed it a lot more than I expected (partly because I had heard many more horror stories- and ubiquitous, dumb stereotypes- about it than happy ones)... and I&#039;m about as far from being a Stepford wife as one can get (though I readily admit that labour was a total @#$%&amp; bitch to me).

I wish it were possible for women to either hate OR love something, or want OR not want something without getting singled out and judged either way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had a fantastic pregnancy, enjoyed it a lot more than I expected (partly because I had heard many more horror stories- and ubiquitous, dumb stereotypes- about it than happy ones)&#8230; and I&#8217;m about as far from being a Stepford wife as one can get (though I readily admit that labour was a total @#$%&amp; bitch to me).</p>
<p>I wish it were possible for women to either hate OR love something, or want OR not want something without getting singled out and judged either way.</p>
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		<title>By: chgoliz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310771</link>
		<dc:creator>chgoliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely.  Auto-immune disorders run on one side of my family.  We&#039;ve all had kids, and pregnancy definitely exacerbated our medical situations, but the family genes were already there, ready to be turned on.  Some of the new research on MS (one of the diseases that runs in the family) suggests that it&#039;s a common virus that sets the genes off.  Pregnancy is a huge stressor, but there are plenty of others....genes are the real cornerstone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely.  Auto-immune disorders run on one side of my family.  We&#8217;ve all had kids, and pregnancy definitely exacerbated our medical situations, but the family genes were already there, ready to be turned on.  Some of the new research on MS (one of the diseases that runs in the family) suggests that it&#8217;s a common virus that sets the genes off.  Pregnancy is a huge stressor, but there are plenty of others&#8230;.genes are the real cornerstone.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310604</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had a couple of friends who loved being pregnant, but they weren&#039;t the majority.</description>
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		<title>By: crash2parties</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310582</link>
		<dc:creator>crash2parties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a really good point, Dahlia.   I&#039;m going to guess not many cells go back and forth until the placenta is developed and there&#039;s a circulatory system to work with.

It *is* the way the body works and there is *nothing* mystical about it other than what people choose to believe (in other words, there is an objective reality under it all).   Nor is it &quot;gross&quot;.  But I have trouble seeing it as &quot;spiritual&quot;, too.  It&#039;s more...mechanical, I guess.  Spiritual is what&#039;s in your head (as is deciding what&#039;s gross and what&#039;s beautiful).

The only deeper meaning I was gleaning was in the special case of rape.  It struck me that what was explained in this report could make it emotionally far worse and really does point out the need for the choice I mentioned. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a really good point, Dahlia.   I&#8217;m going to guess not many cells go back and forth until the placenta is developed and there&#8217;s a circulatory system to work with.</p>
<p>It *is* the way the body works and there is *nothing* mystical about it other than what people choose to believe (in other words, there is an objective reality under it all).   Nor is it &#8220;gross&#8221;.  But I have trouble seeing it as &#8220;spiritual&#8221;, too.  It&#8217;s more&#8230;mechanical, I guess.  Spiritual is what&#8217;s in your head (as is deciding what&#8217;s gross and what&#8217;s beautiful).</p>
<p>The only deeper meaning I was gleaning was in the special case of rape.  It struck me that what was explained in this report could make it emotionally far worse and really does point out the need for the choice I mentioned. </p>
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		<title>By: dahlia</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310556</link>
		<dc:creator>dahlia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve never met anyone who had a baby who thought it was bliss.  i can&#039;t say i&#039;ve experienced any particular agenda in that regard -- if anything, women LOVE to tell pregnancy war stories!  seriously, get a room of mothers going, it&#039;s like bragging rights.  mine was uneventful and pleasant until the very end when all hell broke loose, here, sit down and i&#039;ll tell you all about it ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve never met anyone who had a baby who thought it was bliss.  i can&#8217;t say i&#8217;ve experienced any particular agenda in that regard &#8212; if anything, women LOVE to tell pregnancy war stories!  seriously, get a room of mothers going, it&#8217;s like bragging rights.  mine was uneventful and pleasant until the very end when all hell broke loose, here, sit down and i&#8217;ll tell you all about it &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: crash2parties</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310551</link>
		<dc:creator>crash2parties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some T-cells can and do on a regular basis, seemingly as part of regular um, maintenance.  And, the BBB is much more permeable during inflammation.  *and* sometimes when some of those T-cells get inside, they incorrectly initiate an inflammation response and let other stuff in.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some T-cells can and do on a regular basis, seemingly as part of regular um, maintenance.  And, the BBB is much more permeable during inflammation.  *and* sometimes when some of those T-cells get inside, they incorrectly initiate an inflammation response and let other stuff in.  </p>
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		<title>By: dahlia</title>
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		<dc:creator>dahlia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of course it should be, but that&#039;s a separate issue.  anyway, once the egg is fertilized and implanted, even if you dislodge it, this is claiming that a bit of cell stays behind, though i imagine it matters how long it was there.  it doesn&#039;t strike me as an instantaneous thing.

if this is how the body works, that&#039;s how it works, whether it grosses you out or not.  let&#039;s not get mystical or torture ourselves with deeper meaning.  it seems weird to me to get upset over what your body does and has always done since the beginning of time.  it&#039;s like people who are horrified by menstruation or something, i don&#039;t get it.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course it should be, but that&#8217;s a separate issue.  anyway, once the egg is fertilized and implanted, even if you dislodge it, this is claiming that a bit of cell stays behind, though i imagine it matters how long it was there.  it doesn&#8217;t strike me as an instantaneous thing.</p>
<p>if this is how the body works, that&#8217;s how it works, whether it grosses you out or not.  let&#8217;s not get mystical or torture ourselves with deeper meaning.  it seems weird to me to get upset over what your body does and has always done since the beginning of time.  it&#8217;s like people who are horrified by menstruation or something, i don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
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		<title>By: Mauricio Lozano</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310520</link>
		<dc:creator>Mauricio Lozano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how a cell can pass through the hematoencephalic barrier, is that possible now??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how a cell can pass through the hematoencephalic barrier, is that possible now??</p>
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		<title>By: jchack</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310503</link>
		<dc:creator>jchack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My answer to both comments is that systemic dependency is not the same thing as material equality. Which was my subtle point at the top of this post. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My answer to both comments is that systemic dependency is not the same thing as material equality. Which was my subtle point at the top of this post. </p>
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		<title>By: crash2parties</title>
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		<dc:creator>crash2parties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think, subset.  As in, you can have a brain without having a mind, but you cannot have a mind without having a brain.  Studies of damaged and manipulated brains have shown it exceedingly well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think, subset.  As in, you can have a brain without having a mind, but you cannot have a mind without having a brain.  Studies of damaged and manipulated brains have shown it exceedingly well.</p>
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		<title>By: crash2parties</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310440</link>
		<dc:creator>crash2parties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but what if it was non-consensual and an egg fertilized and implanted?

...his cells in you forever, in your brain, your heart...just when you thought the violation couldn&#039;t possibly be greater, new information comes along. 

THIS is why Plan B is needed, over the counter &amp;  to anyone who wants it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but what if it was non-consensual and an egg fertilized and implanted?</p>
<p>&#8230;his cells in you forever, in your brain, your heart&#8230;just when you thought the violation couldn&#8217;t possibly be greater, new information comes along. </p>
<p>THIS is why Plan B is needed, over the counter &amp;  to anyone who wants it.</p>
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		<title>By: crash2parties</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310418</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ova are already formed, if not yet matured at puberty and before.  So I&#039;d say that unless the fetal stem cells can act as viruses and inject their DNA or swap like bacteria, the chances are pretty much zero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ova are already formed, if not yet matured at puberty and before.  So I&#8217;d say that unless the fetal stem cells can act as viruses and inject their DNA or swap like bacteria, the chances are pretty much zero.</p>
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		<title>By: crash2parties</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310406</link>
		<dc:creator>crash2parties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve only met one woman that had that pregnancy experience that matched how &quot;great&quot; it was supposed to be.  And truth be told, she&#039;d somehow find bliss in being water tabled; she goes through the world with that facial expression people used to get while watching the Lawrence Welk Show.  You know, the glazed eyes &amp; social &quot;See, I&#039;m happy&quot; smile...  Can I join you in that cynicism? 

Pregnancy is a method mammals use to survive as a species and ensure genetic variation.  There&#039;s lots of physical stress and discomfort and it&#039;s dangerous, and there&#039;s some emotional manipulation going on, like when bliss hormones and love hormones and all that are released.  But those are nature&#039;s way of ensuring primates will have more than one single-child litter.  

As social creatures we can help each other during difficult times, forming optimistic traditions and supportive memes.  But the (okay, I&#039;ll say it:  somewhat paternalistic) meme of modern women preferring to be home, in the kitchen and pregnant as part of some Glorious role fulfillment or advertiser&#039;s dream world diva has got to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only met one woman that had that pregnancy experience that matched how &#8220;great&#8221; it was supposed to be.  And truth be told, she&#8217;d somehow find bliss in being water tabled; she goes through the world with that facial expression people used to get while watching the Lawrence Welk Show.  You know, the glazed eyes &amp; social &#8220;See, I&#8217;m happy&#8221; smile&#8230;  Can I join you in that cynicism? </p>
<p>Pregnancy is a method mammals use to survive as a species and ensure genetic variation.  There&#8217;s lots of physical stress and discomfort and it&#8217;s dangerous, and there&#8217;s some emotional manipulation going on, like when bliss hormones and love hormones and all that are released.  But those are nature&#8217;s way of ensuring primates will have more than one single-child litter.  </p>
<p>As social creatures we can help each other during difficult times, forming optimistic traditions and supportive memes.  But the (okay, I&#8217;ll say it:  somewhat paternalistic) meme of modern women preferring to be home, in the kitchen and pregnant as part of some Glorious role fulfillment or advertiser&#8217;s dream world diva has got to go.</p>
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		<title>By: crash2parties</title>
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		<dc:creator>crash2parties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it&#039;s not a lot to assume, and it is an established fact.  Simplest example:  damage an area of the brain and record the behavioral and perceptive changes it produces in the subject&#039;s &quot;mind&quot;.  It can get far, far more subtle than that gross example, too and yet still produce significant results (ie very strong, local magnetic fields affecting memory and mood in test subjects).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it&#8217;s not a lot to assume, and it is an established fact.  Simplest example:  damage an area of the brain and record the behavioral and perceptive changes it produces in the subject&#8217;s &#8220;mind&#8221;.  It can get far, far more subtle than that gross example, too and yet still produce significant results (ie very strong, local magnetic fields affecting memory and mood in test subjects).</p>
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		<title>By: crash2parties</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310342</link>
		<dc:creator>crash2parties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, they are the Borg.  Your tactic might work one time but then they adapt and you are again helpless...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, they are the Borg.  Your tactic might work one time but then they adapt and you are again helpless&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lacey D</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310044</link>
		<dc:creator>Lacey D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES! This.</description>
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		<title>By: Lacey D</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1310042</link>
		<dc:creator>Lacey D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree... but... I have lupus and have never been pregnant- no, not even with a fetus that miscarried without me knowing it- I&#039;m a lesbian. I would believe that in this case it is the cells working the other way- my mother&#039;s cells, some of which may have been her mother&#039;s cells, or those of her older sister, both of whom have/had lupus. This is all so fascinating. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree&#8230; but&#8230; I have lupus and have never been pregnant- no, not even with a fetus that miscarried without me knowing it- I&#8217;m a lesbian. I would believe that in this case it is the cells working the other way- my mother&#8217;s cells, some of which may have been her mother&#8217;s cells, or those of her older sister, both of whom have/had lupus. This is all so fascinating. </p>
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		<title>By: h2oh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/cells.html#comment-1309908</link>
		<dc:creator>h2oh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>after we are born, we die. this much is certain. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>after we are born, we die. this much is certain. </p>
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