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		<title>By: steveboyett</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1313830</link>
		<dc:creator>steveboyett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not oversimplifying a bit. On intellectual-property issues alone, Obama is so transparently in the pocket of the major content providers that it&#039;s flat-out hypocritcal of him. He promised transparency but has been at least as opaque as Bush.  Or, hell, just read BoingBoing&#039;s own post: http://boingboing.net/2012/01/07/meet-the-new-boss-same-as-the.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not oversimplifying a bit. On intellectual-property issues alone, Obama is so transparently in the pocket of the major content providers that it&#8217;s flat-out hypocritcal of him. He promised transparency but has been at least as opaque as Bush.  Or, hell, just read BoingBoing&#8217;s own post: <a href="http://boingboing.net/2012/01/07/meet-the-new-boss-same-as-the.html" rel="nofollow">http://boingboing.net/2012/01/07/meet-the-new-boss-same-as-the.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: technogeekagain</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1311956</link>
		<dc:creator>technogeekagain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but this isn&#039;t arrest under any normal reading of the law. This is indefinite detention without charges based on a vague argument that it&#039;s necessary to defend the country -- and gods know, it *IS* necessary to defend the country from this constitutionally obscene act.

Two wrongs don&#039;t make a right. But sometimes they make the point.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but this isn&#8217;t arrest under any normal reading of the law. This is indefinite detention without charges based on a vague argument that it&#8217;s necessary to defend the country &#8212; and gods know, it *IS* necessary to defend the country from this constitutionally obscene act.</p>
<p>Two wrongs don&#8217;t make a right. But sometimes they make the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Juette</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1311288</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Juette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we are rapidly approaching a time when people will become so fed up with words not meaning what they mean, and of words being used to confuse and make ideas and intentions less clear instead of more clear, and of words being used as weapons to beat down and to diminish and enslave one another instead of helping us to make things better and to improve our interactions with each other, that all these fine words and speeches and laws we&#039;ve endured for so long will be thrown onto the fire, and DEEDS will become the lingua franca of the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are rapidly approaching a time when people will become so fed up with words not meaning what they mean, and of words being used to confuse and make ideas and intentions less clear instead of more clear, and of words being used as weapons to beat down and to diminish and enslave one another instead of helping us to make things better and to improve our interactions with each other, that all these fine words and speeches and laws we&#8217;ve endured for so long will be thrown onto the fire, and DEEDS will become the lingua franca of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: toyg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1311118</link>
		<dc:creator>toyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what you say, an &quot;imperial&quot; view of the US Presidency is basically unavoidable then, no matter who gets elected. It&#039;s a pretty sad state of things.

Besides, this shows Obama as weak: the Bush/Cheney administration grabbed arbitrary powers wherever they could, invaded two countries, created Homeland Security, gutted environmental legislation, slashed taxes for the uber rich... Obama couldn&#039;t even institute a decent national health service or restore taxation to sane levels. I guess constitutional scholars are too respectful of laws to actually try to impose new ones.

The two-but-really-just-one-on-some-topics-party system is certainly broken at a fundamental level, but that doesn&#039;t make weak politicians like BO any better in comparison.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what you say, an &#8220;imperial&#8221; view of the US Presidency is basically unavoidable then, no matter who gets elected. It&#8217;s a pretty sad state of things.</p>
<p>Besides, this shows Obama as weak: the Bush/Cheney administration grabbed arbitrary powers wherever they could, invaded two countries, created Homeland Security, gutted environmental legislation, slashed taxes for the uber rich&#8230; Obama couldn&#8217;t even institute a decent national health service or restore taxation to sane levels. I guess constitutional scholars are too respectful of laws to actually try to impose new ones.</p>
<p>The two-but-really-just-one-on-some-topics-party system is certainly broken at a fundamental level, but that doesn&#8217;t make weak politicians like BO any better in comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: donovan acree</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1311019</link>
		<dc:creator>donovan acree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 14:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about burying the lead. No one, anywhere should be detained indefinitely without trail. Even the Nazi&#039;s got a day in court. The idea that our government can detain someone without trail goes against the foundations of our legal system. Only the worst criminal countries treat people this way (which pretty much puts the US on the list of terrorist countries - snatching people off the street only to disappear them is about as low as you can get.)
Yet, this The Due Process Guarantee Act of 2011 speaks only to US citizens on US soil. So, do we then accept that we can do this to citizens in other countries? What about tourists to the US? Our government can just snatch them up a la Kim J Ill? 
The Fifth amendment bears repeating here
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject  for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Notice it does not specify citizenship or location? No person... That is our law. These amendments exist to limit the power of our government. Clearly, our government is ignoring the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about burying the lead. No one, anywhere should be detained indefinitely without trail. Even the Nazi&#8217;s got a day in court. The idea that our government can detain someone without trail goes against the foundations of our legal system. Only the worst criminal countries treat people this way (which pretty much puts the US on the list of terrorist countries &#8211; snatching people off the street only to disappear them is about as low as you can get.)<br />
Yet, this The Due Process Guarantee Act of 2011 speaks only to US citizens on US soil. So, do we then accept that we can do this to citizens in other countries? What about tourists to the US? Our government can just snatch them up a la Kim J Ill?<br />
The Fifth amendment bears repeating here<br />
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject  for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.<br />
Notice it does not specify citizenship or location? No person&#8230; That is our law. These amendments exist to limit the power of our government. Clearly, our government is ignoring the law.</p>
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		<title>By: coffee100</title>
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		<dc:creator>coffee100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 07:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Members of the House and Senate are privileged from arrest traveling to and from legislative sessions and while Congress is in session.

Article I, Section 6</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Members of the House and Senate are privileged from arrest traveling to and from legislative sessions and while Congress is in session.</p>
<p>Article I, Section 6</p>
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		<title>By: coffee100</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310923</link>
		<dc:creator>coffee100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 07:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So, if the Congress passes a law and the President signs it into law and the Supreme Court upholds the law as, in their opinion, not being unconstitutional, then what makes the law unconstitutional?&lt;/blockquote&gt; It is frankly shocking how far authority worship can go.  
&lt;blockquote&gt;Your opinion of it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yes.  There is a reason the document begins with the words &quot;We the People of the United States.&quot;   The Constitution belongs to us, not the Supreme Court.

It is a document that clearly spells out who we are and what we want, and if we decide it isn&#039;t clear enough, we are the only authority in this country with the power to clarify it through our State Legislatures.

So yeah, if the People of the several States say its unconstitutional, that&#039;s where the buck really stops.

Instead of telling us all how important they are, Congress needs to convene the Article V hearings they are Constitutionally obligated to call since by now all FIFTY states have called for a convention to propose amendments.

Then for openers, the repeal of the 17th amendment should be immediately proposed and ratified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So, if the Congress passes a law and the President signs it into law and the Supreme Court upholds the law as, in their opinion, not being unconstitutional, then what makes the law unconstitutional?</p></blockquote>
<p> It is frankly shocking how far authority worship can go.  </p>
<blockquote><p>Your opinion of it?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes.  There is a reason the document begins with the words &#8220;We the People of the United States.&#8221;   The Constitution belongs to us, not the Supreme Court.</p>
<p>It is a document that clearly spells out who we are and what we want, and if we decide it isn&#8217;t clear enough, we are the only authority in this country with the power to clarify it through our State Legislatures.</p>
<p>So yeah, if the People of the several States say its unconstitutional, that&#8217;s where the buck really stops.</p>
<p>Instead of telling us all how important they are, Congress needs to convene the Article V hearings they are Constitutionally obligated to call since by now all FIFTY states have called for a convention to propose amendments.</p>
<p>Then for openers, the repeal of the 17th amendment should be immediately proposed and ratified.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310895</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Re-establishing sanity after 8 years of imperial rule by GWB...&lt;/blockquote&gt;Since that implies that government in general and the White House in particular would have to give back some of the powers that they&#039;ve seized, I&#039;m pretty sure that &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; doing that is a bipartisan goal.
&lt;blockquote&gt;...advancing a strong progressive agenda to reduce inequalities and help the lower middle classes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;One of the major parties, which shall remain nameless, seems to have based its platform on the idea that &#039;reducing inequalities&#039; will lead to the death and dismemberment of the lower middle classes and all other right-thinking, God-fearing, patriotic Americans.  That leaves the one party that still refuses to give up power and still jumps when its corporate masters whistle, but at least doesn&#039;t say that gay marriage causes tornadoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Re-establishing sanity after 8 years of imperial rule by GWB&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Since that implies that government in general and the White House in particular would have to give back some of the powers that they&#8217;ve seized, I&#8217;m pretty sure that <i>not</i> doing that is a bipartisan goal.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;advancing a strong progressive agenda to reduce inequalities and help the lower middle classes.</p></blockquote>
<p>One of the major parties, which shall remain nameless, seems to have based its platform on the idea that &#8216;reducing inequalities&#8217; will lead to the death and dismemberment of the lower middle classes and all other right-thinking, God-fearing, patriotic Americans.  That leaves the one party that still refuses to give up power and still jumps when its corporate masters whistle, but at least doesn&#8217;t say that gay marriage causes tornadoes.</p>
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		<title>By: travtastic</title>
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		<dc:creator>travtastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 02:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monger that fear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monger that fear!</p>
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		<title>By: travtastic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310803</link>
		<dc:creator>travtastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 01:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;1)&lt;/i&gt; There&#039;s no way the military would be allowed to go completely unfunded. It&#039;s a scare tactic, and a political game.
&lt;i&gt;2)&lt;/i&gt; In the off-chance that actually happened, you should probably be concerned about the barbarians running this place, not the pretend ones at the gates.
&lt;i&gt;3)&lt;/i&gt; If the right thing probably won&#039;t work, do the wrong thing so that you don&#039;t look silly. Check.
&lt;i&gt;4) &lt;/i&gt;Well, I &lt;b&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/b&gt; want more indefinite, arbitrary detention... but I &lt;b&gt;do&lt;/b&gt; want to continue blowing people up! I don&#039;t know what to do, this sucks. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>1)</i> There&#8217;s no way the military would be allowed to go completely unfunded. It&#8217;s a scare tactic, and a political game.<br />
<i>2)</i> In the off-chance that actually happened, you should probably be concerned about the barbarians running this place, not the pretend ones at the gates.<br />
<i>3)</i> If the right thing probably won&#8217;t work, do the wrong thing so that you don&#8217;t look silly. Check.<br />
<i>4) </i>Well, I <b>don&#8217;t</b> want more indefinite, arbitrary detention&#8230; but I <b>do</b> want to continue blowing people up! I don&#8217;t know what to do, this sucks. :(</p>
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		<title>By: travtastic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310794</link>
		<dc:creator>travtastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 01:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I &lt;i&gt;love&lt;/i&gt; how every time I see that line anywhere, it has a picture of Bush with it.

It really appeals to me because it offers an absurd, pessimistic view of doing what you believe (at a point in time) to be the right thing to do. That just speaks to me, you know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I <i>love</i> how every time I see that line anywhere, it has a picture of Bush with it.</p>
<p>It really appeals to me because it offers an absurd, pessimistic view of doing what you believe (at a point in time) to be the right thing to do. That just speaks to me, you know?</p>
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		<title>By: travtastic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310763</link>
		<dc:creator>travtastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do understand that, and I understood it while I was commenting, and I appreciate it.

We&#039;re talking about voting for people who have few (if any) qualms about supporting our wars of aggression that have resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths. Can we talk about your privilege in not being one of the millions of displaced peoples in the countries we&#039;ve occupied?

I can be worried about your right to marry at the same time that I worry about it being perfectly legal to send you to jail by fiat. And you don&#039;t just get to pick &lt;b&gt;one&lt;/b&gt; of those things. The question is which one you want first.

Who was it that said a while ago how today&#039;s Democrats are more right-wing than Richard Nixon? Do you think that trend is just going to stop because we vote for them?

&lt;b&gt;Edit:&lt;/b&gt; For the sake of clarity, I &lt;i&gt;do not want&lt;/i&gt; any Republicans winning. I&#039;d rather have a Democrat than a Republican, but I&#039;m more interested in all of us who aren&#039;t far-right using something other than fear of the alternative to decide our vote. Nudging those goal posts back is going to help the powerful, not us.

As for Santorum in particular? I&#039;m white, straight and male. Those privileges wouldn&#039;t count for much once we get to everything else I believe, do, and have done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do understand that, and I understood it while I was commenting, and I appreciate it.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re talking about voting for people who have few (if any) qualms about supporting our wars of aggression that have resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths. Can we talk about your privilege in not being one of the millions of displaced peoples in the countries we&#8217;ve occupied?</p>
<p>I can be worried about your right to marry at the same time that I worry about it being perfectly legal to send you to jail by fiat. And you don&#8217;t just get to pick <b>one</b> of those things. The question is which one you want first.</p>
<p>Who was it that said a while ago how today&#8217;s Democrats are more right-wing than Richard Nixon? Do you think that trend is just going to stop because we vote for them?</p>
<p><b>Edit:</b> For the sake of clarity, I <i>do not want</i> any Republicans winning. I&#8217;d rather have a Democrat than a Republican, but I&#8217;m more interested in all of us who aren&#8217;t far-right using something other than fear of the alternative to decide our vote. Nudging those goal posts back is going to help the powerful, not us.</p>
<p>As for Santorum in particular? I&#8217;m white, straight and male. Those privileges wouldn&#8217;t count for much once we get to everything else I believe, do, and have done.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Flip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hard Flip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is my version 

http://imgur.com/w03MX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my version </p>
<p><a href="http://imgur.com/w03MX" rel="nofollow">http://imgur.com/w03MX</a></p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;d rather we all deal with multiple Santorum terms than continue this good cop / bad cop nonsense forever.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;d rather not deal with someone who wants to put sodomy laws in force, annul all gay marriages and make abortion illegal.  When you stand on principle and other people have to take the consequences, that doesn&#039;t make you a principled person; it just means that you&#039;re skating on privilege.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I&#8217;d rather we all deal with multiple Santorum terms than continue this good cop / bad cop nonsense forever.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d rather not deal with someone who wants to put sodomy laws in force, annul all gay marriages and make abortion illegal.  When you stand on principle and other people have to take the consequences, that doesn&#8217;t make you a principled person; it just means that you&#8217;re skating on privilege.</p>
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		<title>By: D Wyatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>D Wyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FINALLY!!!

Hope I can believe in! 

I give up, I must admit I dont give a flying fart anymore.  Screw em all, let GOD sort you out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FINALLY!!!</p>
<p>Hope I can believe in! </p>
<p>I give up, I must admit I dont give a flying fart anymore.  Screw em all, let GOD sort you out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: toyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>toyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Government is doing a bad thing! Vote me and I&#039;ll fix it! [...] Actually, now that I am in power, I&#039;d quite like these practices to continue, although I know they&#039;re bad. [...] I know, I&#039;ll LEGALIZE them! That will fix it for good.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Government is doing a bad thing! Vote me and I&#8217;ll fix it! [...] Actually, now that I am in power, I&#8217;d quite like these practices to continue, although I know they&#8217;re bad. [...] I know, I&#8217;ll LEGALIZE them! That will fix it for good.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: travtastic</title>
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		<dc:creator>travtastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather we all deal with multiple Santorum terms than continue this good cop / bad cop nonsense forever. I can only speak for myself, of course. What&#039;s the alternative? Inequality, income disparity, class domination, a housing crisis, unemployment? War?

What is the continuation of this farce of a ballroom dance between two sects of authoritarians going to accomplish? Apparently not wake us the fuck up from this fugue state.

What if we don&#039;t warily cast our progressive votes for the Democrats?

Maybe the Republicans will try to censor the internet and support perpetual war. Maybe the Republicans will create some sci-fi dystopia where they can indefinitely detain us on a whim?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather we all deal with multiple Santorum terms than continue this good cop / bad cop nonsense forever. I can only speak for myself, of course. What&#8217;s the alternative? Inequality, income disparity, class domination, a housing crisis, unemployment? War?</p>
<p>What is the continuation of this farce of a ballroom dance between two sects of authoritarians going to accomplish? Apparently not wake us the fuck up from this fugue state.</p>
<p>What if we don&#8217;t warily cast our progressive votes for the Democrats?</p>
<p>Maybe the Republicans will try to censor the internet and support perpetual war. Maybe the Republicans will create some sci-fi dystopia where they can indefinitely detain us on a whim?</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only difference between the parties is who their victims are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only difference between the parties is who their victims are.</p>
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		<title>By: Manuel Smirnoff</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310514</link>
		<dc:creator>Manuel Smirnoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what presidential veto is for. He could have used it, if he&#039;d believed the law was bad. The ONLY conclusion to make is that he thought the law was good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what presidential veto is for. He could have used it, if he&#8217;d believed the law was bad. The ONLY conclusion to make is that he thought the law was good.</p>
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		<title>By: GregS</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310480</link>
		<dc:creator>GregS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congress can&#039;t force the president to sign anything. And no law can get through Congress today without the support of the Democratic party majority in the Senate.  And if the Democrats are indeed so weak that they can&#039;t stand up the to the Republican House, despite controlling 2/3 of the power centers in Washington, then they don&#039;t deserve to hold those offices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congress can&#8217;t force the president to sign anything. And no law can get through Congress today without the support of the Democratic party majority in the Senate.  And if the Democrats are indeed so weak that they can&#8217;t stand up the to the Republican House, despite controlling 2/3 of the power centers in Washington, then they don&#8217;t deserve to hold those offices.</p>
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		<title>By: GregS</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310473</link>
		<dc:creator>GregS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with GuyInMilwaukee. If Obama can be bullied on so many issues, against his will, then he is so weak and ineffectual that he shouldn&#039;t be president. It isn&#039;t just an issue of who is morally to blame for things, it&#039;s also a practical issue of being able to get things done. If Obama is so ineffective that he can be continually forced to do the opposite of what he truly wants to do, then he isn&#039;t up to the job and should resign or should be voted out of office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with GuyInMilwaukee. If Obama can be bullied on so many issues, against his will, then he is so weak and ineffectual that he shouldn&#8217;t be president. It isn&#8217;t just an issue of who is morally to blame for things, it&#8217;s also a practical issue of being able to get things done. If Obama is so ineffective that he can be continually forced to do the opposite of what he truly wants to do, then he isn&#8217;t up to the job and should resign or should be voted out of office.</p>
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		<title>By: GregS</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310468</link>
		<dc:creator>GregS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bullied by Congress? C&#039;mon, you don&#039;t seriously believe that, do you? Obama is President. His party controls the Senate. He could have told Congress &quot;I will veto this bill unless you remove these provisions&quot; and the Democrats in the Senate would probably have fallen into line. Instead, he voiced no opposition to this (except to object to one part of it that he felt infringed on presidential prerogatives) and signed it when it crossed his desk.  Obama totally owns this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bullied by Congress? C&#8217;mon, you don&#8217;t seriously believe that, do you? Obama is President. His party controls the Senate. He could have told Congress &#8220;I will veto this bill unless you remove these provisions&#8221; and the Democrats in the Senate would probably have fallen into line. Instead, he voiced no opposition to this (except to object to one part of it that he felt infringed on presidential prerogatives) and signed it when it crossed his desk.  Obama totally owns this.</p>
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		<title>By: twoshebears</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310370</link>
		<dc:creator>twoshebears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was POTUS (goddess forbid) here is what I would do.  Have the nay-sayers in congress detained until the Due Process Act is passed. Perhaps this would give them time to reflect upon what Ben Franklin said of those who would give up liberty for the sake of security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was POTUS (goddess forbid) here is what I would do.  Have the nay-sayers in congress detained until the Due Process Act is passed. Perhaps this would give them time to reflect upon what Ben Franklin said of those who would give up liberty for the sake of security.</p>
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		<title>By: mykie242</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310359</link>
		<dc:creator>mykie242</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chains you can believe in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chains you can believe in.</p>
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		<title>By: Marja Erwin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310320</link>
		<dc:creator>Marja Erwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a double problem. Positions with power over others attract those who are already corrupt, and they corrupt those who hold them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a double problem. Positions with power over others attract those who are already corrupt, and they corrupt those who hold them.</p>
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		<title>By: Marja Erwin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310307</link>
		<dc:creator>Marja Erwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s part of how representative democracy breaks. A flawed design; at least you could have bonded recallable delegates. And flawed by design - the constitution was intended to protect banksters and slaveholders from democracy, and while some ruling classes have fallen, others have replaced them, and it continues to protect the powerful from the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s part of how representative democracy breaks. A flawed design; at least you could have bonded recallable delegates. And flawed by design &#8211; the constitution was intended to protect banksters and slaveholders from democracy, and while some ruling classes have fallen, others have replaced them, and it continues to protect the powerful from the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Sequoia M.</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310218</link>
		<dc:creator>Sequoia M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making overreaching, unconstitutional laws then pinkie swearing you won&#039;t use them is not &quot;how representative democracy works.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making overreaching, unconstitutional laws then pinkie swearing you won&#8217;t use them is not &#8220;how representative democracy works.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jgs</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310169</link>
		<dc:creator>jgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Signing statements, meh. They&#039;re not binding on Obama&#039;s administration, and double-plus not binding on any future administrations. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Signing statements, meh. They&#8217;re not binding on Obama&#8217;s administration, and double-plus not binding on any future administrations. </p>
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		<title>By: jgs</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310167</link>
		<dc:creator>jgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... bullied into ordering the assassination without trial of at least one American citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; bullied into ordering the assassination without trial of at least one American citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/01/03/missing-portion-of-obama-hope.html#comment-1310161</link>
		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How&#039;s that hopey changey thing workin&#039; out for ya?&quot; 
Still the best line in four years, even though we know she didn&#039;t think it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How&#8217;s that hopey changey thing workin&#8217; out for ya?&#8221;<br />
Still the best line in four years, even though we know she didn&#8217;t think it up.</p>
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