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HOWTO lay a wood floor on top of the carpet in your rental apartment

Cory Doctorow at 6:14 am Sun, Jan 22, 2012

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Sumitsumit sez, "Tired of carpet, want wood floors, but living in a rental apartment? If you have the low-pile variety, here's an economical way to make yourself a great new floor without damaging the underlying carpet. From the guy who brought you 'rope bondage for laptops.'"

How to Install a Wood Floor on top of Carpet

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  • Marktech

    Wood flooring, eh? Sounds interesting – wait, rope bondage for laptops???

    • Snig

      I thought it was kind of burying the lead as well.

      • flosofl

        OK, not being pedantic at all, but isn’t that supposed to be ‘lede’? I always get confused because contextually ‘lead’ makes some kind of sense, but I have a feeling it’s a domain specific word.

  • travtastic

    That’s actually reasonably cheap compared to what I’ve seen some people do in apartments.

  • ahecht

    I’m not sure how long the fake-pergo will last on a compliant sub-floor like carpet. The wood is pretty thin, and all that bending as it’s being walked on (and has heavy furniture resting on it) can’t be good for it. Per TrafficMaster’s instructions, the only approved sub-floors are 5/8″ plywood or 3/4″ OSB on 16″ joists, a concrete slab, existing hardwood floors, or linoleum/vinyl installed on one of the above sub-floors.

    • oasisob1

      When does HOWTO lay carpet over a wood floor in your rental apartment come out?

      • Snig

        If your problem is having too high a ceiling, you can just alternate the techniques to the desired height.

      • Stephen Young

        its called a “rug”

  • Gordon JC Pearce

    Why would you cover up a carpet with cheap crappy laminate flooring?  Is it really the case that some people like cold, noisy, ugly flooring?

    • VonWatters

      Depends how cheap and crappy your carpet is.
      *Looks at own flat’s threadbare orangey-brown carpet with various holes worn in it.*

      Also if you have cats it’s a godsend.

    • suburbanhick

      Can’t really disagree about the ‘ugly’ part of your comment, but I know from experience (I hate carpet) that laminate laid over carpet is neither cold or noisy. The carpet fortuitously both insulates and deadens sound. Carpet, on the other hand, harbours dust mites, fleas (if your pets go outside), bacteria and a host of other nastiness. Also, it’s a hell of a lot easier to clean up a glass of spilled red wine from laminate than it is from carpet!

    • freshacconci

      Carpets that come with apartments are usually cheap, ugly and old. I wouldn’t put carpeting in a place I owned and would avoid like hell renting a place with carpeting. I’m not convinced covering up an old carpet is a great idea (in my mind I know it’s still there) but it’s better than walking barefoot on carpets that have seen god knows what over the years (decades?).

    • Palomino

      He does explain one reason was to refract light, and that’s important to him. And, wood is more often than not described as “warm” in character and color. However, I find it a huge waste. what’s he going to do with it afterwards, trash it? 

  • moioci

    I wouldn’t be so brave as to try to cut a straight line freehand. At least clamp a ruler on there to make a fence.

  • Sxe

    Well, it’ll be less noisy with that carpet underneath, but it’s definitely not an ideal workaround.
    He was careful and methodical in doing this, but most tenants aren’t when they decide to “improve” their rented space like this. And I’m sure that no matter how clean this guy is, his landlord is doing a facepalm.

    I’ve got nothing against tenants, having been both a tenant and a landlord. But I’ve realized that lack of ownership leads to creative rule-breaking completely inconsiderate of the long-term effects.

    Without being properly attached to the substrate, these laminate boards will begin to buckle and warp in the areas of high foot traffic. While not being 100% wood, laminate floorboards still have moisture-absorbing properties that wood does. A change in humidity in his apartment will cause tightly-placed boards to raise up, as will a spill.

    One spill that seeps through the flooring’s corner moulding or warps to the carpet below is guaranteed to create ideal conditions for mould to grow. While it may be true that the carpet is protected from foot traffic, it’s not at all protected from this. Carpets exposed to air can dry before they get mouldy. Now his can’t. And if his carpet was anything less than immaculate to begin with– which I doubt, since it’s a rented apartment– any mould spores in it that were dormant due to exposure to dry air will now be able to propagate.

    I have a feeling that when he moves out and his landlord makes him take up the flooring, the carpet will stink to high heaven and need to be replaced.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/ziccup akbar56

      “Without being properly attached to the substrate”  How exactly does one do that? Most laminate floors are floating floors and are designed to have 1/4″ gap at the edge (hidden by molding/baseboard) for expansion. 

    • Stephen Young

      Laminate floors like that are “floating”. when you install them over a solid surface you actually put down a layer of cushy foam not unlike a carpet pad. The carpet + pad in this situation is probably too thick and the tongues of the flooring are liable to break off over time from the flexing.

      also, anything you spill on carpet that soaks in at all will not dry. It will mold. you need to pull the carpet up to let it dry.

      Why the hell do people put carpet in rentals? its always disgusting unless you have a strict vacuum daily, no shoes, no food or drink, no pets, no children policy. If you don’t like carpet, don’t move into a place with carpet. I never would.

  • http://twitter.com/thewelshtwit khb

    The real question is, does this take more or less effort than vacuuming the carpet?

  • Phil Allison

    Wow, he needs some help with videos. I was getting seasick at the beginning. I am not sure why people are obsessed with cordless power tools either. You can buy a corded one for much less and never have to wait for a battery to recharge. 

    • http://imcravingpresidency.tumblr.com/ SedanChair

      …or you can buy two batteries and not be tethered to the wall while you work

      • asfi

        Or you could buy a handsaw for a fraction of the price and not be tethered to any source of electricity, ever.

  • Kludgegrrl

    His claim that he will have to do “a lot of vacuuming” does not really address the considerable amount of very fine dust that cutting the flooring will create — in a carpeted room.  It’s hard enough getting it out of an uncarpeted space.  The underlying carpet will be full of the stuff…  Ugh.

  • gwailo_joe

    Invest in a good steam cleaning…

  • Miles de Courcy

    This guy is obviously a genius. haven’t you seen him in that microsoft songsmith video? why isn’t he singing?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/QEYFISQO4DNKS3L6R3UQNECRMY Dan Fowler

    So how much did he save by NOT removing the tags from the clamps for later return? Thief..

  • http://twitter.com/joeybladb joe k.

    I replaced most of the carpet in my house with a laminate flooring material and it’s quite gorgeous. It’s not as nice as actual wood flooring, but it’s very low maintenance and extremely durable.

    I would never install it over carpet, however; nor would I install it in an apartment I was leasing. As was mentioned above, it won’t survive the flexing of being on carpet, and the initial cost of the materials is not justified by the fact that once the lease is up, you’ve got to tear it all up (I mean, unless you’ve got a 15 year lease or something…)

    To each his own though — I agree that wall to wall carpeting is some of the ugliest, most unhygienic forms of home decoration imaginable.

  • asfi

    Years ago, I moved into a basement apartment, and nearly all of it was carpeted like this, even the portion I was going to be using as my electronics ‘lab’. Before moving in, I bought a couple of sheets of tempered Masonite (aka ‘hardboard’), and laid it in place. I joined the sheets with duct tape to keep bits of debris from falling through the small gap between them.

    When I moved out a year later, I lifted up the Masonite and voila, the carpet was unharmed.

    (There, I’ve told you everything you need to know, and without taking 13:41 of your time to do so. On the other hand, you have no idea how ironic my t-shirt collection is.)

  • lawngnome

    None of the edges are secured under the baseboards or a transition on the patio door or meeting the carpet area. All that will do is warp and curve up along with the tongue and groove system probably snapping from all the flexing from the carpet. Neat idea, but from someone who has installed, no way this works irl.

  • http://twitter.com/cicadamania Cicada Mania

    There’s nothing more annoying than having someone in an adjacent apartment with wood floors. Yay, I get to hear every one of your footsteps now. YAY! I hope this lad is prepared to be instantly hated by everyone around him.

  • http://twitter.com/fr_brown Francis Brown

    What? Glue? This kind of flooring dosen’t need to be glued..! I got this all over my apartment, and around here, it’s called “floating floor”.. It’s ment to be installed like this! In fact, if you don’t already have carpet underneath, you have to lay a kind of foam carpet before the flooring.
    This guy could have made a video of him reading the original instructions…!

  • Soni Pitts

    Agh. NEVER clamp both sides of a piece you’re cutting through like that. If the blade binds, you want at least one side to give. Otherwise the tension can spring the tool back and cause injury.

  • http://twitter.com/maurye Maury Estabrooks

    Keeping the manufacturer tags on the clamps for an easy return to Home Depot. Missed that tip.