Comments on: US record labels trying to sneak SOPA's provisions into Canada's pending copyright legislation http://boingboing.net/2012/01/23/us-record-labels-trying-to-sne.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 19 May 2013 17:36:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Barrett Blackwood http://boingboing.net/2012/01/23/us-record-labels-trying-to-sne.html#comment-1327503 Barrett Blackwood Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=140162#comment-1327503 More than likely, the Conservatives want to protect their own agenda. Clearly, the completely unenforcable digital lock rules come from the states and are being brought in as a simple (although ineffective) way of dealing with these issues while keeping Canada in the international Copyright loop. Really, if anything the Conservatives didn't give the content industry very much at all. The Conservatives have made their agenda very clear. They have their own plan and they are not on anybody's side but their own. More than likely, the Conservatives want to protect their own agenda. Clearly, the completely unenforcable digital lock rules come from the states and are being brought in as a simple (although ineffective) way of dealing with these issues while keeping Canada in the international Copyright loop. Really, if anything the Conservatives didn’t give the content industry very much at all.

The Conservatives have made their agenda very clear. They have their own plan and they are not on anybody’s side but their own.

]]> By: digi_owl http://boingboing.net/2012/01/23/us-record-labels-trying-to-sne.html#comment-1327243 digi_owl Tue, 24 Jan 2012 06:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=140162#comment-1327243 And this is why supernational corporations are going to send the world back to the proverbial dark ages. Sure the industry and such will be there, but the social system will be closer to the aristocracies of old than the democracies of today. Basically the issue is that they can move about as they see fit, and play nations against one another via their ability to move money and work across borders as they see fit. Sadly the politicians is either on the take or worry about what will happen if they try to brinkmanship the corporations. And this is why supernational corporations are going to send the world back to the proverbial dark ages. Sure the industry and such will be there, but the social system will be closer to the aristocracies of old than the democracies of today. Basically the issue is that they can move about as they see fit, and play nations against one another via their ability to move money and work across borders as they see fit. Sadly the politicians is either on the take or worry about what will happen if they try to brinkmanship the corporations.

]]> By: a_w_young http://boingboing.net/2012/01/23/us-record-labels-trying-to-sne.html#comment-1327130 a_w_young Tue, 24 Jan 2012 03:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=140162#comment-1327130 I don't think the opposition / NDP are to blame for the way the broken "democracy" works. If there was a minority government in play, I think you'd see their teeth a bit more. I don’t think the opposition / NDP are to blame for the way the broken “democracy” works. If there was a minority government in play, I think you’d see their teeth a bit more.

]]> By: freshacconci http://boingboing.net/2012/01/23/us-record-labels-trying-to-sne.html#comment-1327092 freshacconci Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=140162#comment-1327092 No, I realize that. I found it interesting that conservatives would take part in this. Canadian conservatives tend to be pro-big business over other concerns. No, I realize that. I found it interesting that conservatives would take part in this. Canadian conservatives tend to be pro-big business over other concerns.

]]> By: Narfig_Agar http://boingboing.net/2012/01/23/us-record-labels-trying-to-sne.html#comment-1327054 Narfig_Agar Tue, 24 Jan 2012 00:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=140162#comment-1327054 This is very concerning since our conservative majority ruling party has pretty much absolute power to do what-ever they want. They've demonstrated this (bill C-10) and the opposition (bless their young orange hearts) is a bit rudderless and very inexperienced. Even our sober second thought department of the Senate is stacked. The "Harper Government" will keep their promises and stay the course, and one of these promises is to "modernize" copyright laws.  What's worse is we're very protective of our culture and our entertainment exports. It's 11 odd billion dollar industry and has a great deal of pull, and we've already signed ACTA. Luckily we don't control the DNS servers...cold comfort... This is very concerning since our conservative majority ruling party has pretty much absolute power to do what-ever they want. They’ve demonstrated this (bill C-10) and the opposition (bless their young orange hearts) is a bit rudderless and very inexperienced. Even our sober second thought department of the Senate is stacked.

The “Harper Government” will keep their promises and stay the course, and one of these promises is to “modernize” copyright laws.  What’s worse is we’re very protective of our culture and our entertainment exports. It’s 11 odd billion dollar industry and has a great deal of pull, and we’ve already signed ACTA.

Luckily we don’t control the DNS servers…cold comfort…

]]> By: decius http://boingboing.net/2012/01/23/us-record-labels-trying-to-sne.html#comment-1327045 decius Tue, 24 Jan 2012 00:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=140162#comment-1327045 SOPA is basically already in effect in the UK due to a court decision there earlier this year: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15459005 SOPA is basically already in effect in the UK due to a court decision there earlier this year: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15459005

]]> By: Jardine http://boingboing.net/2012/01/23/us-record-labels-trying-to-sne.html#comment-1327043 Jardine Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=140162#comment-1327043 Tories being Conservatives. Tories being Conservatives.

]]> By: abstract_reg http://boingboing.net/2012/01/23/us-record-labels-trying-to-sne.html#comment-1326958 abstract_reg Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=140162#comment-1326958 So, lets say that this law does get passed. Would it be constitutional? I don't see how it could, but I'm not a lawyer, just a guy who knows his Charter rights. So, lets say that this law does get passed. Would it be constitutional? I don’t see how it could, but I’m not a lawyer, just a guy who knows his Charter rights.

]]> By: wysinwyg http://boingboing.net/2012/01/23/us-record-labels-trying-to-sne.html#comment-1326956 wysinwyg Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=140162#comment-1326956 Major exports of the U.S.A.: CO2, jobs, bad movies, terrible legislation Major exports of the U.S.A.: CO2, jobs, bad movies, terrible legislation

]]> By: freshacconci http://boingboing.net/2012/01/23/us-record-labels-trying-to-sne.html#comment-1326942 freshacconci Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=140162#comment-1326942 "Blogging Tories"? “Blogging Tories”?

]]> By: Daniel Tobias http://boingboing.net/2012/01/23/us-record-labels-trying-to-sne.html#comment-1326941 Daniel Tobias Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=140162#comment-1326941 The time-honored technique is to venue-shop for countries you can manage to get to pass laws to your liking, and then you can go back to the less-favorable countries and insist that they change their laws too in the name of "global harmonization". The time-honored technique is to venue-shop for countries you can manage to get to pass laws to your liking, and then you can go back to the less-favorable countries and insist that they change their laws too in the name of “global harmonization”.

]]> By: Vanessa Kelly http://boingboing.net/2012/01/23/us-record-labels-trying-to-sne.html#comment-1326940 Vanessa Kelly Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=140162#comment-1326940 I'd like to see them try. It's not as hard to get Canadian politicians to turn their back on unpopular legislation, even when an election isn't near. I think it's time to start mounting more serious opposition to C-11. I’d like to see them try. It’s not as hard to get Canadian politicians to turn their back on unpopular legislation, even when an election isn’t near. I think it’s time to start mounting more serious opposition to C-11.

]]> By: a_w_young http://boingboing.net/2012/01/23/us-record-labels-trying-to-sne.html#comment-1326936 a_w_young Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=140162#comment-1326936 Geist has an excellent PDF that looks at some of the dangers of C-11 (once called C-31), the upcoming copyright bill in Canada. http://www.michaelgeist.ca/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,32/ (comes from this article if you're untrusting - http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5115/125/ ) Geist has an excellent PDF that looks at some of the dangers of C-11 (once called C-31), the upcoming copyright bill in Canada.

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,32/

(comes from this article if you’re untrusting – http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5115/125/ )

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