Comments on: UNC-Charlotte gets its own SWAT team http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 23 May 2013 09:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Jigglypuff http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1337898 Jigglypuff Sun, 05 Feb 2012 01:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1337898 I agree that it does make sense, I read about the hog farms in the news during Floyd. I just take issue with generalizing all of us as having a Mayberry/antiquated mindset, and calling NC/Charlotte the pigshit capitol of the world. There are plenty of open-minded/non-judgemental, educated, and nice Carolinians (that DIDN'T vote for Foxx or Strom Thurmond incarnations). (Thurmond was from SC, but still tainted many perspectives of NCians as bigoted backwoods hicks) I agree that it does make sense, I read about the hog farms in the news during Floyd.

I just take issue with generalizing all of us as having a Mayberry/antiquated mindset, and calling NC/Charlotte the pigshit capitol of the world. There are plenty of open-minded/non-judgemental, educated, and nice Carolinians (that DIDN’T vote for Foxx or Strom Thurmond incarnations).

(Thurmond was from SC, but still tainted many perspectives of NCians as bigoted backwoods hicks)

]]> By: Arthur http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1337655 Arthur Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1337655  Courtesy of Charlie Rangel and William Hughes. Two of the most corrupt men to ever have seats in Congress. Just goes to show what entitlement vote buying will get you.  Courtesy of Charlie Rangel and William Hughes. Two of the most corrupt men to ever have seats in Congress. Just goes to show what entitlement vote buying will get you.

]]> By: Buddy Bradley http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1337544 Buddy Bradley Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1337544 Thanks for the reply.  Let me take your questions in order: -I suppose so.   He was a young, good looking guy so I don't doubt that young women were attracted to him. -No, although I can't rule the possibility out. -I have no idea. -I don't know. I didn't see any evidence of this. As for your comment, "I don't see how there's a problem." I agree. I don't see how there's a problem either.  I didn't mean to suggest that him screwing young girls on our couch was a problem.  Everybody was screwing everybody in college, at least as far as I could see.  He was taking part in it just like everybody else. I just mentioned this as a funny sidenote to what I remember about him. As to any possible abuse of power/stalking/coercion to obtain sexual favors from students on his part, I honestly never thought about it until now, because it's not like it was hard to get laid at my school, policeman or not.  But now that you mention it, it wouldn't surprise me to (gasp!) hear about a cop abusing his authority. This idea has apparently crossed your mind as well. The truth is that this policeman who lived with us was just a weird, creepy guy in general and we all felt uncomfortable just being around him.  Seriously, what kind of police officer chooses to live with a bunch of wastoid students in a dilapidated hovel and obsesses about starting up a campus SWAT team on our mellow, peacenik campus? He reminded me of Ted Bundy. As to the usage of the word "coed," I do not deny being either archaic or sexist.  I'm also old. Have a pleasant day! Thanks for the reply.  Let me take your questions in order:
-I suppose so.   He was a young, good looking guy so I don’t doubt that young women were attracted to him.
-No, although I can’t rule the possibility out.
-I have no idea.
-I don’t know. I didn’t see any evidence of this.

As for your comment, “I don’t see how there’s a problem.” I agree. I don’t see how there’s a problem either.  I didn’t mean to suggest that him screwing young girls on our couch was a problem.  Everybody was screwing everybody in college, at least as far as I could see.  He was taking part in it just like everybody else. I just mentioned this as a funny sidenote to what I remember about him.

As to any possible abuse of power/stalking/coercion to obtain sexual favors from students on his part, I honestly never thought about it until now, because it’s not like it was hard to get laid at my school, policeman or not.  But now that you mention it, it wouldn’t surprise me to (gasp!) hear about a cop abusing his authority. This idea has apparently crossed your mind as well.

The truth is that this policeman who lived with us was just a weird, creepy guy in general and we all felt uncomfortable just being around him.  Seriously, what kind of police officer chooses to live with a bunch of wastoid students in a dilapidated hovel and obsesses about starting up a campus SWAT team on our mellow, peacenik campus? He reminded me of Ted Bundy.

As to the usage of the word “coed,” I do not deny being either archaic or sexist.  I’m also old.

Have a pleasant day!

]]> By: Tiny Zombie http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1337082 Tiny Zombie Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:09:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1337082 Fair point Dave, and I will even concede  that, the campus PD likely got a budget and like all government institutions they are going to spend it on toys for the boys. I would gently point out that that if both the city and the campus have police departments, their may be jurisdictional grey areas that may require separate swat departments, but I am sure a simple agreement from the two forces could alleviate the issue. I will also point out that I am still against the militarization of the police forces, I think it sets a bad precedent and encourages departments to actually use all their new cop stuff. :) Fair point Dave, and I will even concede  that, the campus PD likely got a budget and like all government institutions they are going to spend it on toys for the boys. I would gently point out that that if both the city and the campus have police departments, their may be jurisdictional grey areas that may require separate swat departments, but I am sure a simple agreement from the two forces could alleviate the issue. I will also point out that I am still against the militarization of the police forces, I think it sets a bad precedent and encourages departments to actually use all their new cop stuff. :)

]]> By: awjt http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1337023 awjt Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1337023 I'm not _that_ old... just old fashioned I guess... I’m not _that_ old… just old fashioned I guess…

]]> By: boingboingdave http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336968 boingboingdave Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336968 @tiny-zombie Yes, a fire department should be ready for a toxic chemical fire even if most area houses are wood. But a toxic chemical fire at a university is probable, and the fire department's training would actually impact the situation. For justification, they've cited situations that would not have been prevented, alleviated, solved etc with a campus SWAT team. One must keep in mind, this is UNC Charlotte CAMPUS police NOT Charlotte PD. Charlotte is the largest city in NC. They have SWAT teams. They have a lot of police.  If (Knock on wood) there is a situation on UNC Charlotte campus requiring action from a SWAT team, there already exists a city police form to provide that. @tiny-zombie Yes, a fire department should be ready for a toxic chemical fire even if most area houses are wood. But a toxic chemical fire at a university is probable, and the fire department’s training would actually impact the situation. For justification, they’ve cited situations that would not have been prevented, alleviated, solved etc with a campus SWAT team. One must keep in mind, this is UNC Charlotte CAMPUS police NOT Charlotte PD. Charlotte is the largest city in NC. They have SWAT teams. They have a lot of police.  If (Knock on wood) there is a situation on UNC Charlotte campus requiring action from a SWAT team, there already exists a city police form to provide that.

]]> By: AlexG55 http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336920 AlexG55 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:58:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336920 The men at far left and far right in the photo are members of my university's police force, which has full police powers despite not being accountable to any body outside the university. As you can see, they also wear black uniforms and are armed with lethal weapons identical to those formerly issued to the military. I still prefer them to most American campus forces from what I hear... The men at far left and far right in the photo are members of my university’s police force, which has full police powers despite not being accountable to any body outside the university. As you can see, they also wear black uniforms and are armed with lethal weapons identical to those formerly issued to the military.

I still prefer them to most American campus forces from what I hear…

]]> By: Lupus_Yonderboy http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336903 Lupus_Yonderboy Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336903 Fellow Hokie here, completely agree. I left VT long before the shootings (class of '97) but I still read as much as I could and talked to as many people I could about what happened and I can't see how a SWAT team would have changed anything for the better (but how they might have changed a lot for the worse, had they gone in guns-a-blazin', full on SWVA hillbilly style). Fellow Hokie here, completely agree. I left VT long before the shootings (class of ’97) but I still read as much as I could and talked to as many people I could about what happened and I can’t see how a SWAT team would have changed anything for the better (but how they might have changed a lot for the worse, had they gone in guns-a-blazin’, full on SWVA hillbilly style).

]]> By: Tiny Zombie http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336874 Tiny Zombie Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336874 OK, it's been a long time since I have commented, so be gentle.  First militarization of police forces is an extremely bad idea. Like giving officers pepper spray and tasers, it allows departments to make the leap to violence faster when the situation may not call for it.So here goes; I'm not sure how the rules work now, but in the past the presence of certain types of facilities on campus required certain levels of protection from police and fire departments. The presence of some reactor types, biological facilities etc, required the police and fire departments to be able to respond in kind, should the situation require it. Will the equipment and training be held in a glass case that reads "Break only in the extremely unlikely event of somebody trying to break into that science lab we have all been told to stay out of", not bloody likely. Do they need to be able to respond should they be called to, yes. Stating that the reason is "Columbine or Virginia Tech" may be total BS, but it makes the general population shrug and say "well maybe, oh well who's on american idol tonight", the real reason may be just as unlikely but far more panic inducing. We wouldn't fault the fire department for being trained on how to respond to a toxic chemical fire, when most of the houses in town are made of wood.The officers should be trained to respond appropriately, and then go home safely. As a society, we give them awful responsibilities, for not a lot of money, then we give them very little respect and eye them with distrust. If the social contract we all live under is to hold up, on some level we have to trust that are behaving and performing in a way that is best for society. We also must verify that is the case; and in the event it is not, we mustn't be so quick to condemn them as rednecks, racists, incompetents, or opportunists.  OK, it’s been a long time since I have commented, so be gentle. 
First militarization of police forces is an extremely bad idea. Like giving officers pepper spray and tasers, it allows departments to make the leap to violence faster when the situation may not call for it.So here goes; I’m not sure how the rules work now, but in the past the presence of certain types of facilities on campus required certain levels of protection from police and fire departments. The presence of some reactor types, biological facilities etc, required the police and fire departments to be able to respond in kind, should the situation require it. Will the equipment and training be held in a glass case that reads “Break only in the extremely unlikely event of somebody trying to break into that science lab we have all been told to stay out of”, not bloody likely. Do they need to be able to respond should they be called to, yes. Stating that the reason is “Columbine or Virginia Tech” may be total BS, but it makes the general population shrug and say “well maybe, oh well who’s on american idol tonight”, the real reason may be just as unlikely but far more panic inducing. We wouldn’t fault the fire department for being trained on how to respond to a toxic chemical fire, when most of the houses in town are made of wood.The officers should be trained to respond appropriately, and then go home safely. As a society, we give them awful responsibilities, for not a lot of money, then we give them very little respect and eye them with distrust. If the social contract we all live under is to hold up, on some level we have to trust that are behaving and performing in a way that is best for society. We also must verify that is the case; and in the event it is not, we mustn’t be so quick to condemn them as rednecks, racists, incompetents, or opportunists. 

]]> By: The Life Of Bryan http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336828 The Life Of Bryan Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336828 I’ve lived here twenty years and was in Wilmington for Floyd (and Fran, Bertha, Bonnie, etc.) and never heard that nickname. Although it does make sense, as the flooding of the hog waste lagoons in the eastern part of the state was a serious problem. I’ve lived here twenty years and was in Wilmington for Floyd (and Fran, Bertha, Bonnie, etc.) and never heard that nickname. Although it does make sense, as the flooding of the hog waste lagoons in the eastern part of the state was a serious problem.

]]> By: bwcbwc http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336759 bwcbwc Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336759 Gotta get those homeland security dollars!!! It's like the federal drug enforcement money: the bureaucracy feeds unnecessary enforcement. Gotta get those homeland security dollars!!!

It’s like the federal drug enforcement money: the bureaucracy feeds unnecessary enforcement.

]]> By: bwcbwc http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336758 bwcbwc Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336758 Maybe awjt went to college back in the day when the drinking age was still 18. But that far back, most campuses didn't even have police except for writing tickets for parking in the faculty lot. Maybe awjt went to college back in the day when the drinking age was still 18. But that far back, most campuses didn’t even have police except for writing tickets for parking in the faculty lot.

]]> By: boingboingdave http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336699 boingboingdave Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336699 I am a VT Alumni.  That semester in 2007 was my final semester, and I was also there for the Will Morva fiasco. It makes me sick that people are frankly trying to exploit it. It was tragic, but an expensively outfitted SWAT team would have done zippy to change what happened. It occurred because of rules on the books regarding mental health disclosures, gun laws, and mistakes in police procedure. What happened was not the result of an outgunned police force. If your campus police cannot handle expected situations from a campus with standard equipment then they are unfit to be doing their jobs. Throw around your illogical arguments all you want UNC, but leave my school out of it, please. I am a VT Alumni.  That semester in 2007 was my final semester, and I was also there for the Will Morva fiasco. It makes me sick that people are frankly trying to exploit it. It was tragic, but an expensively outfitted SWAT team would have done zippy to change what happened. It occurred because of rules on the books regarding mental health disclosures, gun laws, and mistakes in police procedure. What happened was not the result of an outgunned police force. If your campus police cannot handle expected situations from a campus with standard equipment then they are unfit to be doing their jobs. Throw around your illogical arguments all you want UNC, but leave my school out of it, please.

]]> By: realityhater http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336626 realityhater Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336626 A  SWAT team really ? - I wonder how much that is going to hike up the tuition ? "That will be $2500 for the semester classes  $500 a month for dorm $200 a month for local fees and $ 175 a month for swat protection - please pay at the window" A  SWAT team really ? – I wonder how much that is going to hike up the tuition ?
“That will be $2500 for the semester classes  $500 a month for dorm $200 a month for local fees and $ 175 a month for swat protection – please pay at the window”

]]> By: patrick dodds http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336608 patrick dodds Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:35:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336608 IQ in the low 60s and far right sympathies BUT can shoot? Welcome to the police brother! IQ in the low 60s and far right sympathies BUT can shoot? Welcome to the police brother!

]]> By: Toffer99 http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336590 Toffer99 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336590 Comments on BoingBoing are very valuable to someone who doesn't live in the USA. I just learned more about the country and those who live there than a month of reading the NY Times would have given me. Comments on BoingBoing are very valuable to someone who doesn’t live in the USA.
I just learned more about the country and those who live there than a month of reading the NY Times would have given me.

]]> By: Jim Nelson http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336580 Jim Nelson Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336580 However, you have to calculate the cost vs. benefit for maintaining a SWAT team versus the number of times a year they get called out, and the advantage in response time having a barely-used team get called out vs. having the city PD roll out its much more frequently deployed SWAT team. How many campus shootings have involved people running round in so much body armor that standard police weapons won't touch them? What possible situation would be so dire that having an inexperienced SWAT team a few miles closer could possibly make any difference? Seriously, in most situations, they'll do what any police force does in a hostage / nut with a gun situation. Set up a perimeter, evacuate everyone in the area, and wait for the specialists to come in. Owning a few submachine guns and size 52 tactical vests does not make you that team of specialists... However, you have to calculate the cost vs. benefit for maintaining a SWAT team versus the number of times a year they get called out, and the advantage in response time having a barely-used team get called out vs. having the city PD roll out its much more frequently deployed SWAT team.

How many campus shootings have involved people running round in so much body armor that standard police weapons won’t touch them? What possible situation would be so dire that having an inexperienced SWAT team a few miles closer could possibly make any difference?

Seriously, in most situations, they’ll do what any police force does in a hostage / nut with a gun situation. Set up a perimeter, evacuate everyone in the area, and wait for the specialists to come in. Owning a few submachine guns and size 52 tactical vests does not make you that team of specialists…

]]> By: Jigglypuff http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336566 Jigglypuff Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336566 I'm NC born and raised, and I have never heard of Hurricane Floyd being called "pig shit hurricane." And while Virginia Foxx IS a douche canoe, not every North Carolinian is. Thank you for generalizing us as backward, shit-smelling, ne'er-do-wells. I’m NC born and raised, and I have never heard of Hurricane Floyd being called “pig shit hurricane.” And while Virginia Foxx IS a douche canoe, not every North Carolinian is. Thank you for generalizing us as backward, shit-smelling, ne’er-do-wells.

]]> By: Mister44 http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336514 Mister44 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 07:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336514 Depending what state you live in, your fire arm can have its own external hearing protection device. The $200 tax on it is from the old NFA. If you live in a fascist state, you have my sympathy. Depending what state you live in, your fire arm can have its own external hearing protection device. The $200 tax on it is from the old NFA. If you live in a fascist state, you have my sympathy.

]]> By: benenglish http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336503 benenglish Fri, 03 Feb 2012 06:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336503 Have you ever seen the video of the final vote on the '86 ban?  It was done by voice.  "All in favor say aye." "Aye" rather lackluster, medium volume, clearly a minority. "All opposed say nay." "Nay" booming, loud, from all over the chamber, clearly a majority. "The ayes have it" without a pause or a look up. There was some screaming at that point, a little gavel-pounding, and the next order of business was brought to the floor.   The fix was in from the beginning.  As insane as some of the choices are, I'd vote for any candidate for President if they could reasonably guarantee repeal the '86 law and an end to the ban on basic safety equipment (hearing protection devices) for firearms.  Of course, I know that no President can do that but I can dream. Have you ever seen the video of the final vote on the ’86 ban?  It was done by voice. 

“All in favor say aye.”

“Aye” rather lackluster, medium volume, clearly a minority.

“All opposed say nay.”

“Nay” booming, loud, from all over the chamber, clearly a majority.

“The ayes have it” without a pause or a look up.

There was some screaming at that point, a little gavel-pounding, and the next order of business was brought to the floor.   The fix was in from the beginning. 

As insane as some of the choices are, I’d vote for any candidate for President if they could reasonably guarantee repeal the ’86 law and an end to the ban on basic safety equipment (hearing protection devices) for firearms.  Of course, I know that no President can do that but I can dream.

]]> By: Mister44 http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336498 Mister44 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 06:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336498 If you really wanted to leave, Mexico would probably be an option. Or Puerto Rico - it's like America thats not America.  Or work for a cruise ship and be a citizen of the world! Also, in my limited experience, there are many Americans living in Europe illegally. If you really wanted to leave, Mexico would probably be an option. Or Puerto Rico – it’s like America thats not America.  Or work for a cruise ship and be a citizen of the world!

Also, in my limited experience, there are many Americans living in Europe illegally.

]]> By: Kevin Slattery http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336492 Kevin Slattery Fri, 03 Feb 2012 06:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336492 LOL - Randolf was my guess, too. LOL – Randolf was my guess, too.

]]> By: Anon_Mahna http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336480 Anon_Mahna Fri, 03 Feb 2012 06:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336480 That is utterly scary, that guy has no right to be a leo.  When I took my CPL class I did palm sized groupings with a 9mm and .40 , and CD sized groupings with my friend's 10mm. Previous experience was a .22lr and a .300WinMag, both of which I hadn't used in over a year. I sincerly hope that guy changed career paths and got out of law enforcement. That is utterly scary, that guy has no right to be a leo.  When I took my CPL class I did palm sized groupings with a 9mm and .40 , and CD sized groupings with my friend’s 10mm. Previous experience was a .22lr and a .300WinMag, both of which I hadn’t used in over a year.

I sincerly hope that guy changed career paths and got out of law enforcement.

]]> By: Incipient Madness http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336469 Incipient Madness Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336469 This actually happened at the Occupy camp in Houston a couple of months ago. A person bent on committing suicide by cop came to Tranquility Park because he knew there would be a quick response. Two rookie bicycle cops took him down quite quickly.  He lived. No swat team needed. This actually happened at the Occupy camp in Houston a couple of months ago. A person bent on committing suicide by cop came to Tranquility Park because he knew there would be a quick response.

Two rookie bicycle cops took him down quite quickly.  He lived.

No swat team needed.

]]> By: Incipient Madness http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336466 Incipient Madness Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:36:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336466  Did everything seem consensual? Did you have any reason to suspect that he was using his authority as a police officer in any sort of low intensity coercive way? Did the school have a policy against this? Did he ever go stalker on anyone? If none of these are the case, I don't see how there's a problem. Also, the term "coed" is archaic at best, sexist at worst.  There's nothing unusual these days about being a woman and a college student. "Coed" dates from a time when it was novel and less usual, though you could argue that it might ave applied equally to men even back in that time. BTW, I agree with most others here that UNCC does not need a SWAT team. Waste of resources with potential for abuse. I work on a much larger campus in a pretty gnarly area. We have never entertained the idea of a SWAT team.  Did everything seem consensual? Did you have any reason to suspect that he was using his authority as a police officer in any sort of low intensity coercive way? Did the school have a policy against this? Did he ever go stalker on anyone? If none of these are the case, I don’t see how there’s a problem.

Also, the term “coed” is archaic at best, sexist at worst.  There’s nothing unusual these days about being a woman and a college student. “Coed” dates from a time when it was novel and less usual, though you could argue that it might ave applied equally to men even back in that time.

BTW, I agree with most others here that UNCC does not need a SWAT team. Waste of resources with potential for abuse. I work on a much larger campus in a pretty gnarly area. We have never entertained the idea of a SWAT team.

]]> By: bcsizemo http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336455 bcsizemo Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336455  Umm, when I was in college that's what your friends were for.  Not that the Campus police wouldn't mind helping you if you were of legal drinking age....but considering most freshman are 18 it usually wasn't wise to get the law involved.  Umm, when I was in college that’s what your friends were for.  Not that the Campus police wouldn’t mind helping you if you were of legal drinking age….but considering most freshman are 18 it usually wasn’t wise to get the law involved.

]]> By: bcsizemo http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336453 bcsizemo Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336453  I'm not sure what would be worse, the hyper aggressive SWAT member, or the obese, I can still smell the Krispy Kreme on your breath, while you are dripping sweat patrol officer...  I’m not sure what would be worse, the hyper aggressive SWAT member, or the obese, I can still smell the Krispy Kreme on your breath, while you are dripping sweat patrol officer…

]]> By: Mister44 http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336432 Mister44 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 04:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336432 Westwood. AND I was going to the fucking KU Cancer Center. The one place you would think you could get a break. "Sorry for the expired tags, chemo is expensive." But no - I don't have cancer cancer - just toomaahs. Westwood. AND I was going to the fucking KU Cancer Center. The one place you would think you could get a break. “Sorry for the expired tags, chemo is expensive.”

But no – I don’t have cancer cancer – just toomaahs.

]]> By: Guest http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336414 Guest Fri, 03 Feb 2012 04:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336414 Pretty crappy part of the US where having a B.S. makes you an "Intellectual." Pretty crappy part of the US where having a B.S. makes you an “Intellectual.”

]]> By: pigeon http://boingboing.net/2012/02/02/unc-charlotte-gets-its-own-swa.html#comment-1336398 pigeon Fri, 03 Feb 2012 04:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=142069#comment-1336398 Yeah. I wouldn't have let you into Duke either. Yeah. I wouldn’t have let you into Duke either.

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