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		<title>By: That_Anonymous_Coward</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1339200</link>
		<dc:creator>That_Anonymous_Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 07:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> It is the best defense against &quot;leaks&quot;.  Stop trying to cover up everything that might give you a black eye.  Take your lumps and learn the lesson to never do that again, not to just make sure no one catches you - because there will always be someone.

There recently was a baseball player, I think was only half paying attention to the news, who has a history of problems with alcohol.  He was doing something and ended up having a drink.  Rather than shift the blame onto everything but himself, he stepped right up and said he screwed up.  He made that decision, it was a stupid decision, and he was going to start again on his path to avoiding alcohol.
I have way more respect for that player because he took his lumps for his failing.
To often we let people abdicate responsibility and we need to stop that trend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> It is the best defense against &#8220;leaks&#8221;.  Stop trying to cover up everything that might give you a black eye.  Take your lumps and learn the lesson to never do that again, not to just make sure no one catches you &#8211; because there will always be someone.</p>
<p>There recently was a baseball player, I think was only half paying attention to the news, who has a history of problems with alcohol.  He was doing something and ended up having a drink.  Rather than shift the blame onto everything but himself, he stepped right up and said he screwed up.  He made that decision, it was a stupid decision, and he was going to start again on his path to avoiding alcohol.<br />
I have way more respect for that player because he took his lumps for his failing.<br />
To often we let people abdicate responsibility and we need to stop that trend.</p>
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		<title>By: That_Anonymous_Coward</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1339103</link>
		<dc:creator>That_Anonymous_Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 04:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Face it:  If this had been the US govt hacking into the computer of a Guantanamo detainee&#039;s defense attorney and releasing it to the public &quot;in the interests of fighting terrorism&quot; the crowd at BoingBoing (including myself) would be digging out their pitchforks and Molotov cocktails.  Playing by two different sets of rules is corrosive to justice, regardless of whether the Bush administration or Anonymous is playing the game.&quot;

You mean like when they were intercepting the lawyers communications and we only discovered it because they accidentally included the secret document in discovery and then the Judge blocked them from using the only proof the Government was spying on them?  And allowed the Government to argue there was no proof of them spying on the lawyers communications?

We already have 2 sets of rules, not everyone wants to see that.
Anonymous might have just released it because they could, but maybe also because exposing hypocrisy and watching them try to spin it all might be lulzy

If we lived in a world where truth wasn&#039;t what was convenient to make things better, then it would be wrong to see dox out there.  But in the face of a well orchestrated coverup...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Face it:  If this had been the US govt hacking into the computer of a Guantanamo detainee&#8217;s defense attorney and releasing it to the public &#8220;in the interests of fighting terrorism&#8221; the crowd at BoingBoing (including myself) would be digging out their pitchforks and Molotov cocktails.  Playing by two different sets of rules is corrosive to justice, regardless of whether the Bush administration or Anonymous is playing the game.&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean like when they were intercepting the lawyers communications and we only discovered it because they accidentally included the secret document in discovery and then the Judge blocked them from using the only proof the Government was spying on them?  And allowed the Government to argue there was no proof of them spying on the lawyers communications?</p>
<p>We already have 2 sets of rules, not everyone wants to see that.<br />
Anonymous might have just released it because they could, but maybe also because exposing hypocrisy and watching them try to spin it all might be lulzy</p>
<p>If we lived in a world where truth wasn&#8217;t what was convenient to make things better, then it would be wrong to see dox out there.  But in the face of a well orchestrated coverup&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: teapot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1339035</link>
		<dc:creator>teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Docs are available on TPB. Gonna d/l this puppy later during off-peak... please post any interesting finds.

https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7007197</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Docs are available on TPB. Gonna d/l this puppy later during off-peak&#8230; please post any interesting finds.</p>
<p><a href="https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7007197" rel="nofollow">https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7007197</a></p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338829</link>
		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;m not saying these things didn&#039;t happen, but that if this is the only thing you hear about or the only thing you choose to accept, then it can twist your perspective into believing that&#039;s all there is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Or you can let U.S. military press releases and U.S. gov&#039;t approved &quot;journalism&quot; twist your perspective into believing &lt;em&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/em&gt; all there is.  

Or you can think for your damn self and ask the obvious question, &quot;If this sort of thing did happen a lot would the U.S. military chain of command have a vested interest in covering it up wherever they could?&quot;  I won&#039;t insult your intelligence by answering that for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m not saying these things didn&#8217;t happen, but that if this is the only thing you hear about or the only thing you choose to accept, then it can twist your perspective into believing that&#8217;s all there is.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or you can let U.S. military press releases and U.S. gov&#8217;t approved &#8220;journalism&#8221; twist your perspective into believing <em>that&#8217;s</em> all there is.  </p>
<p>Or you can think for your damn self and ask the obvious question, &#8220;If this sort of thing did happen a lot would the U.S. military chain of command have a vested interest in covering it up wherever they could?&#8221;  I won&#8217;t insult your intelligence by answering that for you.</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338813</link>
		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I actually think that&#039;s &lt;em&gt;literally&lt;/em&gt; black magic, which I think of as getting people to buy into your bullshit.  Wearing a suit and successfully misrepresenting yourself to someone is hacking that person&#039;s reality and if it gets you something you want, well...magic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I actually think that&#8217;s <em>literally</em> black magic, which I think of as getting people to buy into your bullshit.  Wearing a suit and successfully misrepresenting yourself to someone is hacking that person&#8217;s reality and if it gets you something you want, well&#8230;magic!</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338802</link>
		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Because Iranians and Syrians don&#039;t even have the pretense of voting their governments out of power if they&#039;re outraged by what their governments are doing.  We in the U.S. supposedly do have that privilege and so it makes a lot of sense to foment outrage against the people currently in government to try to effect some kind of change.  Of course it probably wouldn&#039;t be effective, but since that would just make people angrier that&#039;s probably a good thing too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Because Iranians and Syrians don&#8217;t even have the pretense of voting their governments out of power if they&#8217;re outraged by what their governments are doing.  We in the U.S. supposedly do have that privilege and so it makes a lot of sense to foment outrage against the people currently in government to try to effect some kind of change.  Of course it probably wouldn&#8217;t be effective, but since that would just make people angrier that&#8217;s probably a good thing too.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338776</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you&#039;re arguing our domestic justice system is inherently unfair&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;m arguing that the US justice system is an accretion of a millennium of case law and that our rules of evidence, for example, aren&#039;t intrinsically &#039;fair&#039; or &#039;unfair&#039;.  It&#039;s possible to have a fair trial in a way that has little to do with the way that we do things here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you&#8217;re arguing our domestic justice system is inherently unfair</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m arguing that the US justice system is an accretion of a millennium of case law and that our rules of evidence, for example, aren&#8217;t intrinsically &#8216;fair&#8217; or &#8216;unfair&#8217;.  It&#8217;s possible to have a fair trial in a way that has little to do with the way that we do things here.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Kuperman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338746</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Kuperman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently Anonymous also did hack Syrian servers and released the handlers notes to Syrian President Assad on how to position the crackdown and war crimes in Syria as reasonable and necessary:

http://www.tgdaily.com/security-features/61273-anonymous-talks-haditha-raids-syrian-servers </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Anonymous also did hack Syrian servers and released the handlers notes to Syrian President Assad on how to position the crackdown and war crimes in Syria as reasonable and necessary:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tgdaily.com/security-features/61273-anonymous-talks-haditha-raids-syrian-servers " rel="nofollow">http://www.tgdaily.com/security-features/61273-anonymous-talks-haditha-raids-syrian-servers </a></p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338740</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s even better than a clipboard and keys, and that&#039;ll get you in almost anywhere.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s even better than a clipboard and keys, and that&#8217;ll get you in almost anywhere.  </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338735</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the 100%, if you will.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the 100%, if you will.  </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338731</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Step one of &#039;stepping up&#039; is recognizing when you are being antagonistic and damaging your own cause to sate your own ego. See also, ideological purity. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Step one of &#8216;stepping up&#8217; is recognizing when you are being antagonistic and damaging your own cause to sate your own ego. See also, ideological purity. </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338730</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Anonymous is &quot;just one bad apple&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Anonymous is &#8220;just one bad apple&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: KNHaw</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338551</link>
		<dc:creator>KNHaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me naive, but yes, I do think that we tend to get fair trials here in the U.S.  100% of the time?  Of course not.  There is no perfect system, but given that our justice system is messy, inefficient, and compromise ridden *by design* and that it is now being starved for funding and hobbled by special interests, it still limps along pretty damn well.

If you&#039;re arguing our domestic justice system is inherently unfair (and I *think* that&#039;s what you&#039;re getting at - I can&#039;t really tell) then it needs fixing just as much as the parallel military justice system that let the Haditha plea deal occur.  That&#039;s the great thing about all political systems in a democracy - they *can* be fixed.  The best way to do that for our justice system is up for debate:  Better funding for public defenders?  Correcting economic disparities in society as a whole?  Eliminating profit motives from our incarceration industry?  All excellent ideas and well worth talking about.  On the other hand, writing off the problem with a cynical &quot;par for the course&quot; comment does no one any good.

Regardless of my digression (sorry about the soapbox), the core point remains:  One instance of injustice (the Haditha prosecutors cutting a sweetheart deal with the defendants) does not excuse another.  That&#039;s the way warlords and juntas justify their actions, not the way a nation of laws works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me naive, but yes, I do think that we tend to get fair trials here in the U.S.  100% of the time?  Of course not.  There is no perfect system, but given that our justice system is messy, inefficient, and compromise ridden *by design* and that it is now being starved for funding and hobbled by special interests, it still limps along pretty damn well.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re arguing our domestic justice system is inherently unfair (and I *think* that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re getting at &#8211; I can&#8217;t really tell) then it needs fixing just as much as the parallel military justice system that let the Haditha plea deal occur.  That&#8217;s the great thing about all political systems in a democracy &#8211; they *can* be fixed.  The best way to do that for our justice system is up for debate:  Better funding for public defenders?  Correcting economic disparities in society as a whole?  Eliminating profit motives from our incarceration industry?  All excellent ideas and well worth talking about.  On the other hand, writing off the problem with a cynical &#8220;par for the course&#8221; comment does no one any good.</p>
<p>Regardless of my digression (sorry about the soapbox), the core point remains:  One instance of injustice (the Haditha prosecutors cutting a sweetheart deal with the defendants) does not excuse another.  That&#8217;s the way warlords and juntas justify their actions, not the way a nation of laws works.</p>
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		<title>By: novium</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338542</link>
		<dc:creator>novium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be ridiculous. That would be too tame. There&#039;s no need to make shit up about what&#039;s going on in Syria, or did you forget the part about the thirteen year old boy that was tortured to death, the mass casualties, or the protesters who just disappear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be ridiculous. That would be too tame. There&#8217;s no need to make shit up about what&#8217;s going on in Syria, or did you forget the part about the thirteen year old boy that was tortured to death, the mass casualties, or the protesters who just disappear?</p>
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		<title>By: KNHaw</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338531</link>
		<dc:creator>KNHaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the prosecutors cut a deal with the defendants that included no jail time, that was a travesty of justice.  These guys were murderers and the prosecutors chickened out.  They (the Haditha servicemen) shamed their uniform, committed horrible crimes, and made it that much tougher for every one of their fellow troops to do their jobs.  They deserve to pay for it with jail time and the residents of Haditha deserve justice.  Don&#039;t assume I&#039;m blind because of the passport I carry.

With that said, my comments were about the actions of Anonymous.  Two wrongs don&#039;t make a right.  Will Anonymous&#039; stunt bring back the dead?  No.  Will it bring justice to the victims?  No.  Does it piss on the entire concept of fair trial?  Yes.

Everyone&#039;s beef here should be with the criminals who killed at Haditha and the prosecutors who derilicted their duty, not the defense or the concept of attorney/client privilege.

EDIT: Typos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the prosecutors cut a deal with the defendants that included no jail time, that was a travesty of justice.  These guys were murderers and the prosecutors chickened out.  They (the Haditha servicemen) shamed their uniform, committed horrible crimes, and made it that much tougher for every one of their fellow troops to do their jobs.  They deserve to pay for it with jail time and the residents of Haditha deserve justice.  Don&#8217;t assume I&#8217;m blind because of the passport I carry.</p>
<p>With that said, my comments were about the actions of Anonymous.  Two wrongs don&#8217;t make a right.  Will Anonymous&#8217; stunt bring back the dead?  No.  Will it bring justice to the victims?  No.  Does it piss on the entire concept of fair trial?  Yes.</p>
<p>Everyone&#8217;s beef here should be with the criminals who killed at Haditha and the prosecutors who derilicted their duty, not the defense or the concept of attorney/client privilege.</p>
<p>EDIT: Typos.</p>
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		<title>By: KNHaw</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338476</link>
		<dc:creator>KNHaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your very argument about the severity of the cases (i.e. my divorce vs. Haditha) means privilege is *more* important, not less.  The bedrock of a working justice system is that everyone deserves fair representation, *especially* those whose hands are bloody.  You start chipping away at that and you will never see any justice.  These releases won&#039;t bring back 24 corpses and they won&#039;t get jail time for anyone, but they will see to it that every defendant will think real, real hard about coming clean with their own attorney when they&#039;re trying to build their defense.

As to &quot;Until one sees what it there, it is much to early to decide the privilege has been breached,&quot; doesn&#039;t that appear a bit backwards?  You appear to be advocating that we should we should all lie back and prostrate ourselves and place our loving trust in the wise arms of Anonymous.  And not even in Anonymous to perform its specialty of defeating security measures, but in Anonymous&#039; ability to parse the fine points of constitutional law.

Frankly, I wouldn&#039;t trust my own judge to make a call like releasing data between me and my attorney.  It&#039;s no one&#039;s business but the attorney&#039;s and the client&#039;s - NO ONE&#039;s:  Not the judge&#039;s, not the other party&#039;s, not the &quot;public&#039;s,&quot; not even (and, yes, I know this sounds horrible) the victims of Haditha.  This is akin to, but substantially worse due to the size of the leak, releasing the identities of those who gave confidential evidence to the prosecution.  Are you in favor of that as well? 

Face it:  If this had been the US govt hacking into the computer of a Guantanamo detainee&#039;s defense attorney and releasing it to the public &quot;in the interests of fighting terrorism&quot; the crowd at BoingBoing (including myself) would be digging out their pitchforks and Molotov cocktails.  Playing by two different sets of rules is corrosive to justice, regardless of whether the Bush administration or Anonymous is playing the game.

In the end, Anonymous is doing this not out of any sense of justice, but for the reason they do everything:  Because they can.

EDIT: Fixed typos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your very argument about the severity of the cases (i.e. my divorce vs. Haditha) means privilege is *more* important, not less.  The bedrock of a working justice system is that everyone deserves fair representation, *especially* those whose hands are bloody.  You start chipping away at that and you will never see any justice.  These releases won&#8217;t bring back 24 corpses and they won&#8217;t get jail time for anyone, but they will see to it that every defendant will think real, real hard about coming clean with their own attorney when they&#8217;re trying to build their defense.</p>
<p>As to &#8220;Until one sees what it there, it is much to early to decide the privilege has been breached,&#8221; doesn&#8217;t that appear a bit backwards?  You appear to be advocating that we should we should all lie back and prostrate ourselves and place our loving trust in the wise arms of Anonymous.  And not even in Anonymous to perform its specialty of defeating security measures, but in Anonymous&#8217; ability to parse the fine points of constitutional law.</p>
<p>Frankly, I wouldn&#8217;t trust my own judge to make a call like releasing data between me and my attorney.  It&#8217;s no one&#8217;s business but the attorney&#8217;s and the client&#8217;s &#8211; NO ONE&#8217;s:  Not the judge&#8217;s, not the other party&#8217;s, not the &#8220;public&#8217;s,&#8221; not even (and, yes, I know this sounds horrible) the victims of Haditha.  This is akin to, but substantially worse due to the size of the leak, releasing the identities of those who gave confidential evidence to the prosecution.  Are you in favor of that as well? </p>
<p>Face it:  If this had been the US govt hacking into the computer of a Guantanamo detainee&#8217;s defense attorney and releasing it to the public &#8220;in the interests of fighting terrorism&#8221; the crowd at BoingBoing (including myself) would be digging out their pitchforks and Molotov cocktails.  Playing by two different sets of rules is corrosive to justice, regardless of whether the Bush administration or Anonymous is playing the game.</p>
<p>In the end, Anonymous is doing this not out of any sense of justice, but for the reason they do everything:  Because they can.</p>
<p>EDIT: Fixed typos.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Goodwin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338465</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Goodwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, link when it show up, please? </description>
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		<title>By: bjacques</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338412</link>
		<dc:creator>bjacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant to finish this. Spotlighting this kind of sleaze is very useful, especially if timed well, and isn&#039;t at all the same as saying &quot;America / the UK / the West sux.&quot; If you want the &quot;good&quot; countries to stay good, you have to keep them honest, by showing them it&#039;s more trouble than it&#039;s worth to try to hide the sleaze (which was WikiLeaks&#039;s point). Realpolitik is depressing enough without its proponents also personally profiting through it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to finish this. Spotlighting this kind of sleaze is very useful, especially if timed well, and isn&#8217;t at all the same as saying &#8220;America / the UK / the West sux.&#8221; If you want the &#8220;good&#8221; countries to stay good, you have to keep them honest, by showing them it&#8217;s more trouble than it&#8217;s worth to try to hide the sleaze (which was WikiLeaks&#8217;s point). Realpolitik is depressing enough without its proponents also personally profiting through it.</p>
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		<title>By: Camp Freddie</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338406</link>
		<dc:creator>Camp Freddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 13:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of Anon&#039;s attacks are based on spear-fishing and social manipulation (e.g. Aaron Barr). It&#039;s relatively easy to chat up or impersonate some American lawyer dude and get his password.
It&#039;s not really possible to do that to someone in a different country/culture who speaks a language you don&#039;t understand. It&#039;ll come off as transparently fake as a nigerian 419.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of Anon&#8217;s attacks are based on spear-fishing and social manipulation (e.g. Aaron Barr). It&#8217;s relatively easy to chat up or impersonate some American lawyer dude and get his password.<br />
It&#8217;s not really possible to do that to someone in a different country/culture who speaks a language you don&#8217;t understand. It&#8217;ll come off as transparently fake as a nigerian 419.</p>
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		<title>By: Wreckrob8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wreckrob8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No regimes are more insidiously oppressive than Western democracies. It suits them just fine to shine the spotlight elsewhere - not that all oppression doesn&#039;t need exposing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No regimes are more insidiously oppressive than Western democracies. It suits them just fine to shine the spotlight elsewhere &#8211; not that all oppression doesn&#8217;t need exposing.</p>
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		<title>By: AlexG55</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338385</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexG55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not as many things as you can do in one of those fluorescent high-visibilty vests. Seriously, those things make you invisible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not as many things as you can do in one of those fluorescent high-visibilty vests. Seriously, those things make you invisible.</p>
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		<title>By: bjacques</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338383</link>
		<dc:creator>bjacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m glad Anon do manage to go directly after bad regimes, I&#039;m not bothered that the majority of their targets are &quot;good&quot; countries. You can seldom act directly against a dictator, but you an go after those helping him stay in power, among them a lot of people in &quot;good&quot; countries. There&#039;s nobody so evil that there isn&#039;t someone &quot;good&quot; making a buck off them and lying about it in public. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m glad Anon do manage to go directly after bad regimes, I&#8217;m not bothered that the majority of their targets are &#8220;good&#8221; countries. You can seldom act directly against a dictator, but you an go after those helping him stay in power, among them a lot of people in &#8220;good&#8221; countries. There&#8217;s nobody so evil that there isn&#8217;t someone &#8220;good&#8221; making a buck off them and lying about it in public. </p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338364</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps i was unclear. I think massacres of civilians are commonplace in war. I dont think Americans are exempt.

I think these generally get covered up, as a matter of necessity, and as a matter of course. Collateral damage. Acceptable losses... I dont see much of a difference between civilians getting blown up next to a target, or maliciously gunned down by rogue soldiers.

Well... At least the rogue soldiers aren&#039;t supposed to be killing civilians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps i was unclear. I think massacres of civilians are commonplace in war. I dont think Americans are exempt.</p>
<p>I think these generally get covered up, as a matter of necessity, and as a matter of course. Collateral damage. Acceptable losses&#8230; I dont see much of a difference between civilians getting blown up next to a target, or maliciously gunned down by rogue soldiers.</p>
<p>Well&#8230; At least the rogue soldiers aren&#8217;t supposed to be killing civilians.</p>
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		<title>By: Prismo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338358</link>
		<dc:creator>Prismo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 07:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>  Marines in Ramada Killing Iraq Civilians (NSFW/NSFL):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7ZRGU-9Vps&amp;feature=mfu_in_order&amp;list=UL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>  Marines in Ramada Killing Iraq Civilians (NSFW/NSFL):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7ZRGU-9Vps&#038;feature=mfu_in_order&#038;list=UL" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7ZRGU-9Vps&#038;feature=mfu_in_order&#038;list=UL</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bloc Black</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338353</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloc Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 07:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just one of the more high-profile hacks that makes it&#039;s way to the media. Anonymous is always hacking oppressive regimes. Today three databases from Nigerian websites was dumped online by Anonymous under #OpNigeria. The other day Anonymous was ddosing sites but were told to stop after Telecomix told them ddosing may hurt civilians as well. They instead defaced Syrian websites. The Parliament of Syria is vulnerable to hacking and has already been dumped online.

Just because the media isn&#039;t reporting it doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not happening. If you have a Twitter you can follow Anons to stay updated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just one of the more high-profile hacks that makes it&#8217;s way to the media. Anonymous is always hacking oppressive regimes. Today three databases from Nigerian websites was dumped online by Anonymous under #OpNigeria. The other day Anonymous was ddosing sites but were told to stop after Telecomix told them ddosing may hurt civilians as well. They instead defaced Syrian websites. The Parliament of Syria is vulnerable to hacking and has already been dumped online.</p>
<p>Just because the media isn&#8217;t reporting it doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not happening. If you have a Twitter you can follow Anons to stay updated.</p>
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		<title>By: pigeon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338352</link>
		<dc:creator>pigeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 07:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, Rob is going to need a more credible source than &quot;my friend in Marine Recon&quot; and &quot;I think&quot;. The problem with world view is it is too easily shaped by interweb comments. Anon is in a position to bring into the cold light of day the raw data that is needed to prosecute various injustices, but they really shouldn&#039;t be making moral pronouncements. I want numbers, facts, data. Those can&#039;t be skewed easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, Rob is going to need a more credible source than &#8220;my friend in Marine Recon&#8221; and &#8220;I think&#8221;. The problem with world view is it is too easily shaped by interweb comments. Anon is in a position to bring into the cold light of day the raw data that is needed to prosecute various injustices, but they really shouldn&#8217;t be making moral pronouncements. I want numbers, facts, data. Those can&#8217;t be skewed easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister44</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338348</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 06:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you just aren&#039;t doing it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you just aren&#8217;t doing it right.</p>
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		<title>By: spacedmonkey</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338347</link>
		<dc:creator>spacedmonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 06:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can get away with all kinds of shit if you put on a suit and look like you belong in it.   It&#039;s kind of like black magic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get away with all kinds of shit if you put on a suit and look like you belong in it.   It&#8217;s kind of like black magic.</p>
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		<title>By: ialreadyexist</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338345</link>
		<dc:creator>ialreadyexist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 06:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really depends on your perspective and the information you choose to let into your worldview.  I&#039;m not saying these things didn&#039;t happen, but that if this is the only thing you hear about or the only thing you choose to accept, then it can twist your perspective into believing that&#039;s all there is.

For a completely different perspective, see the documentary, &quot;Voices of Iraq&quot;.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really depends on your perspective and the information you choose to let into your worldview.  I&#8217;m not saying these things didn&#8217;t happen, but that if this is the only thing you hear about or the only thing you choose to accept, then it can twist your perspective into believing that&#8217;s all there is.</p>
<p>For a completely different perspective, see the documentary, &#8220;Voices of Iraq&#8221;.  </p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/05/anonymous-ready-to-dump-2-6gb.html#comment-1338341</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 06:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Wikileaks forced the US to start saber rattling about restricting the net, and that brought the Anons attention. Sony sued a beloved iphone jailbreaker, and that brought the Anons attention. Then all the ACTA and occupy stuff, has politicized a once apolitical group.... Or maybe radicalized a demographic who have become anons. I cant tell which.

So i guess in a bizarre twist theyve become a what Washington feared wikileaks would become (but never would have).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Wikileaks forced the US to start saber rattling about restricting the net, and that brought the Anons attention. Sony sued a beloved iphone jailbreaker, and that brought the Anons attention. Then all the ACTA and occupy stuff, has politicized a once apolitical group&#8230;. Or maybe radicalized a demographic who have become anons. I cant tell which.</p>
<p>So i guess in a bizarre twist theyve become a what Washington feared wikileaks would become (but never would have).</p>
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