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	<title>Comments on: Matt Ruff&#039;s The Mirage: spectacular alternate history of Arabian manifest&#160;destiny</title>
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		<title>By: marvin nubwaxer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/07/matt-ruffs-the-mirage.html#comment-1342212</link>
		<dc:creator>marvin nubwaxer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and president michael jackson just loves little arab boys.

i think the whole premise is nonsense and rubbish, but i now people would rather indulge in fantasy than cope with reality.

former president reveals he was secretly a muslim and always has been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and president michael jackson just loves little arab boys.</p>
<p>i think the whole premise is nonsense and rubbish, but i now people would rather indulge in fantasy than cope with reality.</p>
<p>former president reveals he was secretly a muslim and always has been.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauchlin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/07/matt-ruffs-the-mirage.html#comment-1340184</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauchlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a western expat who lives in the Middle East.  I was so interested in this write up about the novel, that I clicked right over to Amazon to buy it.

The Kindle edition is more expensive than the hardcover.  Lost sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a western expat who lives in the Middle East.  I was so interested in this write up about the novel, that I clicked right over to Amazon to buy it.</p>
<p>The Kindle edition is more expensive than the hardcover.  Lost sale.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Brad Hicks</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/07/matt-ruffs-the-mirage.html#comment-1340155</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Brad Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I can tell (just finished the book), they did. The independent nation of Israel was set up (where East Germany was in our timeline) to save European Jews from the Holocaust. Islam is a legally privileged religion in the UAS, but both major parties, Unity and Hizbollah Arabia, preach tolerance for all &quot;people of the book.&quot;

It&#039;s unfair to say &quot;there are Nazis in every timeline.&quot; In &quot;the mirage&quot; some of the Lutheran terrorists are also national socialists, politically, but it&#039;s their Lutheranism that makes them terrorists. (In &quot;the mirage,&quot; there was never any Bolshevik revolution in the Russian Orthodox Union for the Nazis to campaign against, so they never got any traction.)

But Jews and even Christians are treated as full citizens in the UAS. It&#039;s the Shiites that are the despised minority, and that owes more to their Persian ethnicity, and the fact that Iran stayed out of the UAS, and is a constant source of criminal smuggling and illegal immigration into the more prosperous UAS. (Think of Turkey as the Canada of the UAS and Iran as its Mexico, if you will: more ignorant, lower-class, and right-wing extremists in the UAS spend a lot of time fulminating about those awful Persian immigrants, in terms that imply that they think of all Shiites as Persians, even when confronted with examples to the contrary.) And some religious people blame the 11/9 disaster on the fact that Baghdad&#039;s mayor, at the time, was accused of being a militant secularist, a dangerous charge in that society.

I pre-ordered it, started as soon as I woke up the day it came out, and read it every minute I could spare until I put it down. I loved it -- but the ending felt a little cheap, to me, and I wish he&#039;d shown more of what it&#039;s like to be an American living under occupation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I can tell (just finished the book), they did. The independent nation of Israel was set up (where East Germany was in our timeline) to save European Jews from the Holocaust. Islam is a legally privileged religion in the UAS, but both major parties, Unity and Hizbollah Arabia, preach tolerance for all &#8220;people of the book.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s unfair to say &#8220;there are Nazis in every timeline.&#8221; In &#8220;the mirage&#8221; some of the Lutheran terrorists are also national socialists, politically, but it&#8217;s their Lutheranism that makes them terrorists. (In &#8220;the mirage,&#8221; there was never any Bolshevik revolution in the Russian Orthodox Union for the Nazis to campaign against, so they never got any traction.)</p>
<p>But Jews and even Christians are treated as full citizens in the UAS. It&#8217;s the Shiites that are the despised minority, and that owes more to their Persian ethnicity, and the fact that Iran stayed out of the UAS, and is a constant source of criminal smuggling and illegal immigration into the more prosperous UAS. (Think of Turkey as the Canada of the UAS and Iran as its Mexico, if you will: more ignorant, lower-class, and right-wing extremists in the UAS spend a lot of time fulminating about those awful Persian immigrants, in terms that imply that they think of all Shiites as Persians, even when confronted with examples to the contrary.) And some religious people blame the 11/9 disaster on the fact that Baghdad&#8217;s mayor, at the time, was accused of being a militant secularist, a dangerous charge in that society.</p>
<p>I pre-ordered it, started as soon as I woke up the day it came out, and read it every minute I could spare until I put it down. I loved it &#8212; but the ending felt a little cheap, to me, and I wish he&#8217;d shown more of what it&#8217;s like to be an American living under occupation.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe in Australia</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/07/matt-ruffs-the-mirage.html#comment-1340018</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe in Australia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 04:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this alternate universe, why wouldn&#039;t the Jews already living the Middle East just stay there? Or is it a constant that Jews have to be treated like crap, even in an alternate universe?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this alternate universe, why wouldn&#8217;t the Jews already living the Middle East just stay there? Or is it a constant that Jews have to be treated like crap, even in an alternate universe?  </p>
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		<title>By: Ubu_XXIV</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/07/matt-ruffs-the-mirage.html#comment-1339939</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubu_XXIV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 02:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wizardru, 1000 years (and more) are a long, long time, even in Morrocco. 

Yes, there were some hard times (say, bad dynasties) but there were more better times : (rich) Jews were often named ambassadors, for instance. 

Also, from the times of the the autonom quasi Republic (&#039;governorat&#039;) of the Sale&#039;s pirates (basically Moors expelled from Spain who became privateers and took revenge at sea attacking spanish galions -- carrying the south american gold --, and taking theirs orders -- &#039;Lettres de course&#039; -- from Holland, London, etc.), we have some documents of french Christians infuriated (and feeling humiliated) because for paying ransoms to free prisonners, they had to negociate with jewish people of Sale.

More recently, everybody agrees that the then future king Muhamad the 5th have protected his jewish subjects from the very &#039;vichyssoises&#039; french authorities (wich opened fire on american soldiers in &#039;42...)

But, well, in this matter, there is before 1948, and after. (Anyway, the kingdom of Morrocco have very good relations with the israeli state since the 70&#039;s -- but very discreetly)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wizardru, 1000 years (and more) are a long, long time, even in Morrocco. </p>
<p>Yes, there were some hard times (say, bad dynasties) but there were more better times : (rich) Jews were often named ambassadors, for instance. </p>
<p>Also, from the times of the the autonom quasi Republic (&#8216;governorat&#8217;) of the Sale&#8217;s pirates (basically Moors expelled from Spain who became privateers and took revenge at sea attacking spanish galions &#8212; carrying the south american gold &#8211;, and taking theirs orders &#8212; &#8216;Lettres de course&#8217; &#8212; from Holland, London, etc.), we have some documents of french Christians infuriated (and feeling humiliated) because for paying ransoms to free prisonners, they had to negociate with jewish people of Sale.</p>
<p>More recently, everybody agrees that the then future king Muhamad the 5th have protected his jewish subjects from the very &#8216;vichyssoises&#8217; french authorities (wich opened fire on american soldiers in &#8217;42&#8230;)</p>
<p>But, well, in this matter, there is before 1948, and after. (Anyway, the kingdom of Morrocco have very good relations with the israeli state since the 70&#8242;s &#8212; but very discreetly)</p>
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		<title>By: Festus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Festus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! Any excuse to read that fabulous book is a good excuse. </description>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/07/matt-ruffs-the-mirage.html#comment-1339661</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Kind of depends on the definition of &quot;recent&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Like the 1930s to 1940s?  You really feel that Christian Europe was making Jews more welcome than the Arabs were?  Do I need to Godwin that for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Kind of depends on the definition of &#8220;recent&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>Like the 1930s to 1940s?  You really feel that Christian Europe was making Jews more welcome than the Arabs were?  Do I need to Godwin that for you?</p>
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		<title>By: wizardru</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/07/matt-ruffs-the-mirage.html#comment-1339647</link>
		<dc:creator>wizardru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jews were treated poorly in parts of Arabia, to be sure.  Their treatment in Morocco was particularly bad.  But they were treated well in Spain until the Moors were cast out and the Inquisition began.  And those Jews moved in huge numbers, BY INVITATION, to the Ottoman Empire, where the Sultans were glad to have them.  While it wasn&#039;t all wines and roses there either, the Jews enjoyed much better treatment until they gradually fell out of power by the 18th Century.

The point being in that it is entirely plausible that Jews could be treated well and given a homeland, post-WWII.  Turkey, for example, was a major escape route for many German Jews fleeing the country (estimates at 100,000 or more).  This isn&#039;t to say there weren&#039;t massacres, pogroms or persecutions...just that there were also instances of fair and better than fair treatment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jews were treated poorly in parts of Arabia, to be sure.  Their treatment in Morocco was particularly bad.  But they were treated well in Spain until the Moors were cast out and the Inquisition began.  And those Jews moved in huge numbers, BY INVITATION, to the Ottoman Empire, where the Sultans were glad to have them.  While it wasn&#8217;t all wines and roses there either, the Jews enjoyed much better treatment until they gradually fell out of power by the 18th Century.</p>
<p>The point being in that it is entirely plausible that Jews could be treated well and given a homeland, post-WWII.  Turkey, for example, was a major escape route for many German Jews fleeing the country (estimates at 100,000 or more).  This isn&#8217;t to say there weren&#8217;t massacres, pogroms or persecutions&#8230;just that there were also instances of fair and better than fair treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: kstop</title>
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		<dc:creator>kstop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Man In The High Minaret joke is probably pre-flattened at this point....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Man In The High Minaret joke is probably pre-flattened at this point&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Marko Raos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marko Raos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think so? Muslims were much more amiable to jews throughout history than christians were.  The jews didn&#039;t &quot;kill their god,&quot; remember? Christian pogroms of jews were 100s of times more numerous than muslim ones. Today&#039;s situation where christian world is allied with jews against muslims is a total historical aberration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think so? Muslims were much more amiable to jews throughout history than christians were.  The jews didn&#8217;t &#8220;kill their god,&#8221; remember? Christian pogroms of jews were 100s of times more numerous than muslim ones. Today&#8217;s situation where christian world is allied with jews against muslims is a total historical aberration.</p>
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		<title>By: Marko Raos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marko Raos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds a lot like it... The bit about &quot;They are all experiencing a shared dream. A dream of a different world. A topsy-turvy world. A world where a great power called America rules,  where Arabia is a collection of squabbling dictatorships...&quot; basically crosses the line from &quot;inspired by&quot; to &quot;blatantly copied and reskinned.&quot;
But I might be wrong. It&#039;s better for the kids to read &quot;The Man in the High Castle&quot; redone for the post 9/11 gen than not to read it at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds a lot like it&#8230; The bit about &#8220;They are all experiencing a shared dream. A dream of a different world. A topsy-turvy world. A world where a great power called America rules,  where Arabia is a collection of squabbling dictatorships&#8230;&#8221; basically crosses the line from &#8220;inspired by&#8221; to &#8220;blatantly copied and reskinned.&#8221;<br />
But I might be wrong. It&#8217;s better for the kids to read &#8220;The Man in the High Castle&#8221; redone for the post 9/11 gen than not to read it at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Tynam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tynam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m entirely with AudioTherapist on this.

Remember: modern Arab antisemitism in our world is largely a post-WWII phenomenon, imported from Europe and compounded by clumsy and stupid handling of the area by various global powers, especially the UK and US. (Followed up by Israel&#039;s own stupidity in recent decades, but the seeds were already there.)

Before the last few decades, most Arab countries had large, thoroughly integrated Jewish populations, with a &lt;i&gt;much&lt;/i&gt; better history of equal treatment than there was in Europe. In a world where WWII was Germany vs Arabia, a strong Jewish/Muslim commonality is &lt;i&gt;entirely&lt;/i&gt; plausible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m entirely with AudioTherapist on this.</p>
<p>Remember: modern Arab antisemitism in our world is largely a post-WWII phenomenon, imported from Europe and compounded by clumsy and stupid handling of the area by various global powers, especially the UK and US. (Followed up by Israel&#8217;s own stupidity in recent decades, but the seeds were already there.)</p>
<p>Before the last few decades, most Arab countries had large, thoroughly integrated Jewish populations, with a <i>much</i> better history of equal treatment than there was in Europe. In a world where WWII was Germany vs Arabia, a strong Jewish/Muslim commonality is <i>entirely</i> plausible.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Billings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Billings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> They were allowed to live in peace, worship in peace, and had high positions in government. That&#039;s a damn sight better than in the Christian world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> They were allowed to live in peace, worship in peace, and had high positions in government. That&#8217;s a damn sight better than in the Christian world.</p>
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		<title>By: P Nielsen Hayden</title>
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		<dc:creator>P Nielsen Hayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I downloaded the ebook immediately on reading this review, and I&#039;ve just lost two hours to it when I was supposed to be doing something else. Totally lives up to Cory&#039;s praise so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I downloaded the ebook immediately on reading this review, and I&#8217;ve just lost two hours to it when I was supposed to be doing something else. Totally lives up to Cory&#8217;s praise so far.</p>
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		<title>By: novium</title>
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		<dc:creator>novium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nazis are a universal constant, obviously. Though they&#039;re not always German, at least. I remember one novel in which they were French. (That&#039;s gotta count for something, right?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nazis are a universal constant, obviously. Though they&#8217;re not always German, at least. I remember one novel in which they were French. (That&#8217;s gotta count for something, right?)</p>
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		<title>By: novium</title>
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		<dc:creator>novium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> First five paragraphs, I was like, &quot;hmm...interesting....funny satire&quot;  - vaguely interested, but sure I had the shape of it and that it was the kind of gimmick that would grow old a few chapters in...and then there was paragraph six, and that&#039;s when I went, &quot;okay, forget that, this book sounds fantastic.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> First five paragraphs, I was like, &#8220;hmm&#8230;interesting&#8230;.funny satire&#8221;  &#8211; vaguely interested, but sure I had the shape of it and that it was the kind of gimmick that would grow old a few chapters in&#8230;and then there was paragraph six, and that&#8217;s when I went, &#8220;okay, forget that, this book sounds fantastic.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: retepslluerb</title>
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		<dc:creator>retepslluerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, we Germans must really have a manifest destiny. In nearly every alternate history novel there are still Nazis, even  when it makes no frigging sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, we Germans must really have a manifest destiny. In nearly every alternate history novel there are still Nazis, even  when it makes no frigging sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Badger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kind of depends on the definition of &quot;recent&quot;. Yes, people like to talk up Moorish Spain as some sort of Utopia, but Jews living in Egypt and other places in the Middle East didn&#039;t have a very nice time even before the existence of Israel -- that&#039;s kind of why they wanted their own state in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of depends on the definition of &#8220;recent&#8221;. Yes, people like to talk up Moorish Spain as some sort of Utopia, but Jews living in Egypt and other places in the Middle East didn&#8217;t have a very nice time even before the existence of Israel &#8212; that&#8217;s kind of why they wanted their own state in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: monopole</title>
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		<dc:creator>monopole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the troubled theocracy America...attacks the middle east&quot;
I thought this was an alternative history... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the troubled theocracy America&#8230;attacks the middle east&#8221;<br />
I thought this was an alternative history&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: AudioTherapist</title>
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		<dc:creator>AudioTherapist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really have to disagree with you there. The arabic peoples were doing multiculturalism well while we were still living in huts. 

Moorish Spain was a haven for Jewish peoples hounded out of Europe by religions and financial (as well as good &#039;ol racist) pogroms. The Mughal princes prior to Aurangzeb provided a safe environment for non-muslims with Akhbar even removing the tax (Jisia) for non muslims.

I think you may be getting confused be fairly recent political events which have set one against t&#039;other and that was mainly due to a pretty poor imperial fudge by the British between the 1920&#039;s and the 40&#039;s in which we exercised the rights of our mandate in the region without due respect given to the people of the region for politically expedient reasons back home.

So yes, I would suggest that not only is the premise plausible but from an historical perspective it&#039;s almost more plausible than anything else.

Truth stranger than fiction, who&#039;d a thunk it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really have to disagree with you there. The arabic peoples were doing multiculturalism well while we were still living in huts. </p>
<p>Moorish Spain was a haven for Jewish peoples hounded out of Europe by religions and financial (as well as good &#8216;ol racist) pogroms. The Mughal princes prior to Aurangzeb provided a safe environment for non-muslims with Akhbar even removing the tax (Jisia) for non muslims.</p>
<p>I think you may be getting confused be fairly recent political events which have set one against t&#8217;other and that was mainly due to a pretty poor imperial fudge by the British between the 1920&#8242;s and the 40&#8242;s in which we exercised the rights of our mandate in the region without due respect given to the people of the region for politically expedient reasons back home.</p>
<p>So yes, I would suggest that not only is the premise plausible but from an historical perspective it&#8217;s almost more plausible than anything else.</p>
<p>Truth stranger than fiction, who&#8217;d a thunk it?</p>
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		<title>By: davidasposted</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidasposted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The review also makes it sound a lot like Abdourahman Waberi&#039;s &lt;i&gt;In the United States of Africa&lt;/i&gt; (2006), in particular with the use of alternate identifies for real-world figures. Check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The review also makes it sound a lot like Abdourahman Waberi&#8217;s <i>In the United States of Africa</i> (2006), in particular with the use of alternate identifies for real-world figures. Check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory your review gave me chills.  Can not wait to get this.  

You really should think about getting a gig as a writer, your quite good with the written word. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory your review gave me chills.  Can not wait to get this.  </p>
<p>You really should think about getting a gig as a writer, your quite good with the written word. </p>
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		<title>By: petertrepan</title>
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		<dc:creator>petertrepan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The KKK is strongly Christian themed, and they carried out domestic terror attacks during the civil rights era. There&#039;s a right-wing Christian movement in the United States right now, and you can see them radicalizing further as they feel more threatened -- which they do, despite the fact that the United States is almost 80% Christian. I acknowledge there are people who Christianity inspires to be good, but I think you&#039;re being naive about what else Christianity might inspire. There could absolutely be a Christian Al Qaeda. To a small degree, there already has been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The KKK is strongly Christian themed, and they carried out domestic terror attacks during the civil rights era. There&#8217;s a right-wing Christian movement in the United States right now, and you can see them radicalizing further as they feel more threatened &#8212; which they do, despite the fact that the United States is almost 80% Christian. I acknowledge there are people who Christianity inspires to be good, but I think you&#8217;re being naive about what else Christianity might inspire. There could absolutely be a Christian Al Qaeda. To a small degree, there already has been.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This book sounds like it would be a great one to read with Kim Stanley Robinson&#039;s The Years of Rice and Salt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This book sounds like it would be a great one to read with Kim Stanley Robinson&#8217;s The Years of Rice and Salt</p>
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		<title>By: jetfx</title>
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		<dc:creator>jetfx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I think the novel is best understood as satire rather than a plausible alternate history scenario.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I think the novel is best understood as satire rather than a plausible alternate history scenario.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelWalsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelWalsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For alternate history novels where &quot;stuff&quot; is slipping through the walls that separate our reality and that of the book may I suggest Christopher Priest&#039;s &quot;The  Separation&quot;.  I thought it good enough to spend my own money to publish it here in the US.  Sorry, dead tree only only in the US, but well worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For alternate history novels where &#8220;stuff&#8221; is slipping through the walls that separate our reality and that of the book may I suggest Christopher Priest&#8217;s &#8220;The  Separation&#8221;.  I thought it good enough to spend my own money to publish it here in the US.  Sorry, dead tree only only in the US, but well worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chang Terhune</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chang Terhune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DAMN!  YOU SOLD THAT, SON!

I&#039;ve read Bad Monkeys and it was okay.  But I love Ruff &amp; Gold&#039;s blog posts so much that between those and this review I&#039;m getting it ASAP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAMN!  YOU SOLD THAT, SON!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read Bad Monkeys and it was okay.  But I love Ruff &amp; Gold&#8217;s blog posts so much that between those and this review I&#8217;m getting it ASAP!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Badger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except that a good alternative history fiction (like Man in the High Castle) is plausible at some level. At least as far as the outline goes this one isn&#039;t, even if you accept that in a world where they are marginalized there would be Christian equivalents to Al Qaeda.  There is just no way this United Arabia would support a Jewish state (even one in Germany). You can&#039;t just swap names around to get a good alt history; you have to ask how people would plausibly act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except that a good alternative history fiction (like Man in the High Castle) is plausible at some level. At least as far as the outline goes this one isn&#8217;t, even if you accept that in a world where they are marginalized there would be Christian equivalents to Al Qaeda.  There is just no way this United Arabia would support a Jewish state (even one in Germany). You can&#8217;t just swap names around to get a good alt history; you have to ask how people would plausibly act.</p>
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		<title>By: mindysan33</title>
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		<dc:creator>mindysan33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds interesting -- though as an historian, I&#039;ll admit I&#039;m always a bit torn about alternate history type books.  This sounds pretty well done, though. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds interesting &#8212; though as an historian, I&#8217;ll admit I&#8217;m always a bit torn about alternate history type books.  This sounds pretty well done, though. </p>
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		<title>By: petertrepan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/07/matt-ruffs-the-mirage.html#comment-1339376</link>
		<dc:creator>petertrepan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve got an &quot;amen&quot; from here in Alabama.</description>
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