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	<title>Comments on: Irony Vigilante Bill Keller: NYT copyright infringement was &quot;illustrative&#160;uploading&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: Len Feldman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/11/irony-vigilante-bill-keller-n.html#comment-1344703</link>
		<dc:creator>Len Feldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a word for this: Hypocrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a word for this: Hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/11/irony-vigilante-bill-keller-n.html#comment-1344605</link>
		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The law should not go after minor transgressions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow.  Don&#039;t have good laws, have lax enforcement!  That&#039;ll never be abused!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The law should not go after minor transgressions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow.  Don&#8217;t have good laws, have lax enforcement!  That&#8217;ll never be abused!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Simmons</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/11/irony-vigilante-bill-keller-n.html#comment-1344247</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 22:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Keller decides to offer downloads of the original unaltered Star Wars trilogy (younger than 36 year old series that is otherwise unavailable) I&#039;ll forgive him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Keller decides to offer downloads of the original unaltered Star Wars trilogy (younger than 36 year old series that is otherwise unavailable) I&#8217;ll forgive him.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Renault</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/11/irony-vigilante-bill-keller-n.html#comment-1343936</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Renault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the same Bill Keller who is stabbing Julian Assange and Wikileaks in the back, after using material that WL gave them? 

(Read the The Rolling Stone interview.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the same Bill Keller who is stabbing Julian Assange and Wikileaks in the back, after using material that WL gave them? </p>
<p>(Read the The Rolling Stone interview.)</p>
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		<title>By: Halloween Jack</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/11/irony-vigilante-bill-keller-n.html#comment-1343734</link>
		<dc:creator>Halloween Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Keller really does come off as kind of a tool. You have to read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/09/opinion/keller-just-the-ticket.html?partner=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;his column on why Hillary Clinton should replace Biden as Obama&#039;s running mate&lt;/a&gt; to grasp the full depth of his delusions. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Keller really does come off as kind of a tool. You have to read <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/09/opinion/keller-just-the-ticket.html?partner=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss" rel="nofollow">his column on why Hillary Clinton should replace Biden as Obama&#8217;s running mate</a> to grasp the full depth of his delusions. </p>
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		<title>By: Mordicai</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/11/irony-vigilante-bill-keller-n.html#comment-1343386</link>
		<dc:creator>Mordicai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irony vigilante is ironic!</description>
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		<title>By: t3kna2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>t3kna2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;[...] I’d be tempted to propose a law keeping irony out of the hands of the clueless.&quot;

Fortunately for you, Mr. Keller, there is no such law.  Nor is there a law against starting an argument with a rhetorical thrust that you disavow even as you&#039;re making it, nor against wrapping yourself in the flag of free speech while supporting a policy that suppresses it, or you&#039;d be in trouble over those too.

We get that you have contempt for our beliefs.  That&#039;s why it&#039;s a fight.

Your position in leadership of a media giant disqualifies you from commenting objectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[...] I’d be tempted to propose a law keeping irony out of the hands of the clueless.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fortunately for you, Mr. Keller, there is no such law.  Nor is there a law against starting an argument with a rhetorical thrust that you disavow even as you&#8217;re making it, nor against wrapping yourself in the flag of free speech while supporting a policy that suppresses it, or you&#8217;d be in trouble over those too.</p>
<p>We get that you have contempt for our beliefs.  That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s a fight.</p>
<p>Your position in leadership of a media giant disqualifies you from commenting objectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Rushkoff</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/11/irony-vigilante-bill-keller-n.html#comment-1343303</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Rushkoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 12:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of us! One of us! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of us! One of us! </p>
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		<title>By: Florian Bösch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florian Bösch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;illustrative uploader&quot;, ah, hard to keep up with media slang for &quot;pirate&quot; sometimes. C&#039;mon everyone, give Bill Keller a hearty arrrrrrrr!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;illustrative uploader&#8221;, ah, hard to keep up with media slang for &#8220;pirate&#8221; sometimes. C&#8217;mon everyone, give Bill Keller a hearty arrrrrrrr!</p>
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		<title>By: Aleknevicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aleknevicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The message from Big Media is remarkably consistent:

&quot;Copyright infringement is bad... except when we do it.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The message from Big Media is remarkably consistent:</p>
<p>&#8220;Copyright infringement is bad&#8230; except when we do it.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: SedanChair</title>
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		<dc:creator>SedanChair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great, a backhanded comment about alt-weeklies. You&#039;re great, Bill Keller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great, a backhanded comment about alt-weeklies. You&#8217;re great, Bill Keller.</p>
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		<title>By: goldenearth</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/11/irony-vigilante-bill-keller-n.html#comment-1343262</link>
		<dc:creator>goldenearth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a lack of ethics in all of this, but there&#039;s no lack of irony!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lack of ethics in all of this, but there&#8217;s no lack of irony!</p>
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		<title>By: Robotech_Master</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robotech_Master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A really funny thing is that, though Keller claims they took the article down when the Phoenix complained, they actually didn&#039;t. They removed the links to it from the NY Times articles, but if you type in the URL illustrated in the screen capture in the Phoenix editorial, you&#039;ll find the actual PDF is still there on the server. (At least at the time I&#039;m writing this. If others have noticed, it may be gone by tomorrow.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A really funny thing is that, though Keller claims they took the article down when the Phoenix complained, they actually didn&#8217;t. They removed the links to it from the NY Times articles, but if you type in the URL illustrated in the screen capture in the Phoenix editorial, you&#8217;ll find the actual PDF is still there on the server. (At least at the time I&#8217;m writing this. If others have noticed, it may be gone by tomorrow.)</p>
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		<title>By: Warren_Terra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren_Terra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sneering &quot;alt-weekly&quot; really is a nice touch: &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; sort of publication is obviously undeserving of consideration, let alone of rights. I&#039;ll bet that the &lt;i&gt;New York Times&lt;/i&gt; quite zealously protects its rights regarding articles it published 36 years ago. If I were to, for example, rip off their  coverage of Jimmy Carter&#039;s inauguration and post it in whole on a site with traffic like theirs, I&#039;ll bet I&#039;d hear from them soon enough.

And &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; it even otherwise unavailable? Is it, for example, available (for a fee) through Lexis/Nexis from your own home, or by visiting the Boston Public Library? Because if the former - and Nexis is older than the article, although I don&#039;t know if it included the publication in question - what&#039;s the difference compared to  the &lt;i&gt;New York Times&lt;/i&gt;&#039;s online archives, which are also available for a price?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sneering &#8220;alt-weekly&#8221; really is a nice touch: <i>that</i> sort of publication is obviously undeserving of consideration, let alone of rights. I&#8217;ll bet that the <i>New York Times</i> quite zealously protects its rights regarding articles it published 36 years ago. If I were to, for example, rip off their  coverage of Jimmy Carter&#8217;s inauguration and post it in whole on a site with traffic like theirs, I&#8217;ll bet I&#8217;d hear from them soon enough.</p>
<p>And <i>is</i> it even otherwise unavailable? Is it, for example, available (for a fee) through Lexis/Nexis from your own home, or by visiting the Boston Public Library? Because if the former &#8211; and Nexis is older than the article, although I don&#8217;t know if it included the publication in question &#8211; what&#8217;s the difference compared to  the <i>New York Times</i>&#8216;s online archives, which are also available for a price?</p>
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		<title>By: Jake0748</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake0748</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irony vigilante is vigilant.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irony vigilante is vigilant.  </p>
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