Comments on: The Incal: classic, weird-ass French space-opera comic drawn by Moebius, reprinted in English http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 25 May 2013 09:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Arvel P http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1348928 Arvel P Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1348928 I must agree with the difference in scripting as well, though from these shots the colors look good.  Some of my favorite old Heavy Metal's have The Incal saga.  I also recently found a clip of the (aborted?) animated version of The Incal Light.  "It would have been glorious!" - Cdr Kor I must agree with the difference in scripting as well, though from these shots the colors look good.  Some of my favorite old Heavy Metal’s have The Incal saga.  I also recently found a clip of the (aborted?) animated version of The Incal Light.  “It would have been glorious!” – Cdr Kor

]]> By: simonbarsinister http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1347106 simonbarsinister Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:36:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1347106  Yes, I want to know this also. How does it compare to the Humanoids edition?  Yes, I want to know this also. How does it compare to the Humanoids edition?

]]> By: Sionic http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1345823 Sionic Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1345823 Storm by Don Lawrence comes to mind. It's not french but fits your description pretty well as far as I recall? Check out the cover on book 2. http://www.donlawrence.co.uk/comics/en/storm.php Storm by Don Lawrence comes to mind. It’s not french but fits your description pretty well as far as I recall? Check out the cover on book 2. http://www.donlawrence.co.uk/comics/en/storm.php

]]> By: IndexMe http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1345642 IndexMe Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1345642 p.s. I wonder if it is available in Japanese.. p.s. I wonder if it is available in Japanese..

]]> By: IndexMe http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1345641 IndexMe Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1345641 Right - I understand it much better just from the English scan posted here. I what they call a mini-nuke here is just "un croc" (I thought a crocodile but it really means a tooth or hook..) Anyway looking forward to reading the English! Right – I understand it much better just from the English scan posted here. I what they call a mini-nuke here is just “un croc” (I thought a crocodile but it really means a tooth or hook..) Anyway looking forward to reading the English!

]]> By: Mike Smith http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1345487 Mike Smith Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1345487 I recently bought Arzak L'Arpenteur, while in France. I had a try at translating it, but my french is pretty weak. I assumed that once I got back I'd find a 'fan-translation' online, but not found one yet. Does anyone know of one? I recently bought Arzak L’Arpenteur, while in France. I had a try at translating it, but my french is pretty weak. I assumed that once I got back I’d find a ‘fan-translation’ online, but not found one yet. Does anyone know of one?

]]> By: hub http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1345423 hub Tue, 14 Feb 2012 06:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1345423 Not only Moebius but also Jean-Claude Mezière, that draw Valerian, another French science-fiction comic. Both artist have had an heavy influence on the movie visual aspect. And add to the mix Jean-Paul Gaultier for the costumes.... Do you (Cory) have a reference to the lawsuit? I'd be curious. Not only Moebius but also Jean-Claude Mezière, that draw Valerian, another French science-fiction comic.
Both artist have had an heavy influence on the movie visual aspect. And add to the mix Jean-Paul Gaultier for the costumes….

Do you (Cory) have a reference to the lawsuit? I’d be curious.

]]> By: hub http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1345424 hub Tue, 14 Feb 2012 06:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1345424  [citation needed] for the lawsuit.  [citation needed] for the lawsuit.

]]> By: breadteam http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1345412 breadteam Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1345412 Does anyone know how this compares to the edition put out by Humanoids? http://www.amazon.com/Incal-Classic-Collection-Alexandro-Jodorowsky/dp/1594650152/ref=pd_vtp_b_2 I bought the Humanoids one a few months ago for about $40 ... did I make a mistake? I haven't had a chance to read it yet and I never saw the original version so I don't know if the coloring is off. Does anyone know how this compares to the edition put out by Humanoids?

http://www.amazon.com/Incal-Classic-Collection-Alexandro-Jodorowsky/dp/1594650152/ref=pd_vtp_b_2

I bought the Humanoids one a few months ago for about $40 … did I make a mistake? I haven’t had a chance to read it yet and I never saw the original version so I don’t know if the coloring is off.

]]> By: LogrusZed http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1345068 LogrusZed Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1345068 My mother used to get Heavy Metal when I was really little and I eventually read this series through that magazine, I never really got what the hell was going on and I have re-read the series a few times in the past decade as well as related series (Meta-Barons, etc) and still have not got a fucking clue but this series is unique in that I continue to enjoy it despite this. This is one of the books that I always want to recommend to people but I'm afraid they'll ask me what it's about and I'll have absolutely no way to explain it. My mother used to get Heavy Metal when I was really little and I eventually read this series through that magazine, I never really got what the hell was going on and I have re-read the series a few times in the past decade as well as related series (Meta-Barons, etc) and still have not got a fucking clue but this series is unique in that I continue to enjoy it despite this.

This is one of the books that I always want to recommend to people but I’m afraid they’ll ask me what it’s about and I’ll have absolutely no way to explain it.

]]> By: nezzyidy http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1345027 nezzyidy Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1345027 Why would Moebius sue about the Fifth Element when he himself designed the look of the film? Why would Moebius sue about the Fifth Element when he himself designed the look of the film?

]]> By: Gordon Klock http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1345001 Gordon Klock Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1345001 This thing pleasantly fried my brain in the 80s.On a side note,much of the plot incoherence seems to be Jodorowsky's musings on various avenues of esoteric knowledge (giving the general weirdness a 'profound' facet,& increasing the WTF element considerably)... BTW: if you look for it you'll notice that it is HEAVILY influenced by the Tarot..... (quite possibly the coolest 'graphic novel' I ever read) This thing pleasantly fried my brain in the 80s.On a side note,much of the plot incoherence seems to be Jodorowsky’s musings on various avenues of esoteric knowledge (giving the general weirdness a ‘profound’ facet,& increasing the WTF element considerably)…
BTW: if you look for it you’ll notice that it is HEAVILY influenced by the Tarot…..
(quite possibly the coolest ‘graphic novel’ I ever read)

]]> By: mennucc http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1345003 mennucc Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1345003 Hey, why isn't anybody talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airtight_Garage ? Hey, why isn’t anybody talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airtight_Garage ?

]]> By: Chad Essley http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344973 Chad Essley Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344973 Better to find the version that Humanoids publishing put out. Yellow cover in hardback / slipcase. But then again, only 999 were produced, so it might take a bit of luck and cash finding a copy. ( They put out an english ultimate collection of the Metabarons too in hardcover / slipcase, also limited to 999 copies. -$135.00 usd ) Better to find the version that Humanoids publishing put out. Yellow cover in hardback / slipcase. But then again, only 999 were produced, so it might take a bit of luck and cash finding a copy. ( They put out an english ultimate collection of the Metabarons too in hardcover / slipcase, also limited to 999 copies. -$135.00 usd )

]]> By: Avram Grumer http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344937 Avram Grumer Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344937 I think my favorite crazy idea in the series is the Meta-Baron's skill of explosion-riding.  I think my favorite crazy idea in the series is the Meta-Baron’s skill of explosion-riding. 

]]> By: Avram Grumer http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344934 Avram Grumer Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344934 The Marvel translation (under their Epic imprint; I just went and pulled my copies off the shelf to see what the differences are) of that line reads "Koskish! Get me my rifle! This time, I'm gonna bag me one!"  Looks like it's got the original coloring, and boobies.  The Marvel translation (under their Epic imprint; I just went and pulled my copies off the shelf to see what the differences are) of that line reads “Koskish! Get me my rifle! This time, I’m gonna bag me one!” 

Looks like it’s got the original coloring, and boobies. 

]]> By: The Ethnic Hipster http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344890 The Ethnic Hipster Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344890 There is only one logical response: http://thatwasmykil.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/vg67654_shut_up_and_take_my_money-n1294512916668.jpg There is only one logical response: http://thatwasmykil.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/vg67654_shut_up_and_take_my_money-n1294512916668.jpg

]]> By: Ito Kagehisa http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344885 Ito Kagehisa Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344885  I never figured out any of the French, really - just looked at the pictures in Metal Hurlant and made up a story in my head.    I was overjoyed when the English version came out and printed translations of the Moebius and Druillet stuff in the early issues.  I never figured out any of the French, really – just looked at the pictures in Metal Hurlant and made up a story in my head.    I was overjoyed when the English version came out and printed translations of the Moebius and Druillet stuff in the early issues.

]]> By: robdobbs http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344828 robdobbs Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344828 It's typical Jodorowsky. The Holy Mountain (a movie, financed by the Beatles and originally intended to star George Harrison until he dropped out because Alejandro wouldn't change the anus-washing scene), deals with similar mystic symbolism. The main character is also The Fool, and resembles Jesus Christ.  It’s typical Jodorowsky.

The Holy Mountain (a movie, financed by the Beatles and originally intended to star George Harrison until he dropped out because Alejandro wouldn’t change the anus-washing scene), deals with similar mystic symbolism. The main character is also The Fool, and resembles Jesus Christ. 

]]> By: serialcleaner http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344805 serialcleaner Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344805 Do you remember anything else? e.g. is the character you mention a "classic" barbarian (like Conan, with no clothes but furry underwear), what kind of weapon he's holding... or if these books depict realistic violence or erotic content... anything could help. Do you remember anything else? e.g. is the character you mention a “classic” barbarian (like Conan, with no clothes but furry underwear), what kind of weapon he’s holding… or if these books depict realistic violence or erotic content… anything could help.

]]> By: sultanica http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344766 sultanica Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344766  I forgot to mention, the series came out in the mid to late 1980's  I forgot to mention, the series came out in the mid to late 1980′s

]]> By: Louis http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344745 Louis Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344745 The Fifth Element did not rip the Incal off, nor did they steal it, they hired Moebius as an artistic designer and Jodorowsky got all mad that Moebius gave away some of his ideas and styles, for instance both the comic and the film are narrated to some extent by a super star clown talk show host etc.... not a case of theft, a case of not watching who you sell your ideas to!  If you want to see a real steal check Moebius' 'the long goodbye' in which you can find the Imperial Droid from Star Wars floating in the background waiting to be seen by one of Lucas' droid designers. The Fifth Element did not rip the Incal off, nor did they steal it, they hired Moebius as an artistic designer and Jodorowsky got all mad that Moebius gave away some of his ideas and styles, for instance both the comic and the film are narrated to some extent by a super star clown talk show host etc…. not a case of theft, a case of not watching who you sell your ideas to! 

If you want to see a real steal check Moebius’ ‘the long goodbye’ in which you can find the Imperial Droid from Star Wars floating in the background waiting to be seen by one of Lucas’ droid designers.

]]> By: serialcleaner http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344724 serialcleaner Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344724 Jodorowsky's writing is not so weird or confusing. It just stands as the junction of "social" sci-fi (ala John Brunner, Norman Spinrad...) and New Age aesthetics and themes. Actually there really is quite a simple idea behind the Incal series, but the narration makes a very heavy use of archetypes, and hermetic or mystic symbolism, from tarot, Kabbalah, alchemy, Buddhism... that "blurs" the big picture. Still it can be deciphered, with the right references. Many keys are in the names: (e.g.: Incal = the INner (spiritual) CALL ; John Difool is obviously The fool, the tarot card, and takes the path called the Fool's journey in tarot...) Many mysteries get an explanation in the book "Les mystères de l'Incal" (in French only: http://www.bedetheque.com/album-573-BD-Les-mysteres-de-l-Incal.html). If you can read French and love these books, I recommend reading "Avant l'Incal", which narrates the youth of John Difool, written by Jodorowsky and drawn by Janjetov some years after the original series. IMHO it's much better than the Technopriests (also drawn by Janjetov) and the Metabarons series, as the author's writing has gotten somewhat repetitive in the 90's and until now. Jodorowsky’s writing is not so weird or confusing. It just stands as the junction of “social” sci-fi (ala John Brunner, Norman Spinrad…) and New Age aesthetics and themes. Actually there really is quite a simple idea behind the Incal series, but the narration makes a very heavy use of archetypes, and hermetic or mystic symbolism, from tarot, Kabbalah, alchemy, Buddhism… that “blurs” the big picture. Still it can be deciphered, with the right references. Many keys are in the names: (e.g.: Incal = the INner (spiritual) CALL ; John Difool is obviously The fool, the tarot card, and takes the path called the Fool’s journey in tarot…) Many mysteries get an explanation in the book “Les mystères de l’Incal” (in French only: http://www.bedetheque.com/album-573-BD-Les-mysteres-de-l-Incal.html).
If you can read French and love these books, I recommend reading “Avant l’Incal”, which narrates the youth of John Difool, written by Jodorowsky and drawn by Janjetov some years after the original series. IMHO it’s much better than the Technopriests (also drawn by Janjetov) and the Metabarons series, as the author’s writing has gotten somewhat repetitive in the 90′s and until now.

]]> By: Rusty Stardust http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344692 Rusty Stardust Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344692 'Comics writer Jodorowsky'?! Uh. He's much more known for his films. Holy Mountain is legendary. As is El Topo. Comics writer, indeed. ‘Comics writer Jodorowsky’?! Uh. He’s much more known for his films. Holy Mountain is legendary. As is El Topo. Comics writer, indeed.

]]> By: serialcleaner http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344689 serialcleaner Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344689 Hi Sultanica. Your description reminds of the Aquablue series, drawn by Olivier Vatine: http://www.bedetheque.com/ParaBD/48exlibrisPortfolioCouverturesMythiquesDelcourt1_13032011_175625.jpg Hi Sultanica. Your description reminds of the Aquablue series, drawn by Olivier Vatine: http://www.bedetheque.com/ParaBD/48exlibrisPortfolioCouverturesMythiquesDelcourt1_13032011_175625.jpg

]]> By: squidfood http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344679 squidfood Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344679 Ok, after 30 years I found while cleaning and dragged out my copies from parents' attic literally last week.  Creepy.  I suppose it's what to expect when living in an airtight garage... Ok, after 30 years I found while cleaning and dragged out my copies from parents’ attic literally last week.  Creepy. 

I suppose it’s what to expect when living in an airtight garage…

]]> By: miasm http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344659 miasm Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344659 obligatory Moebius link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKBdeb6dmXI obligatory Moebius link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKBdeb6dmXI

]]> By: zhuangzi23 http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344653 zhuangzi23 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344653 Let's not forget The Technopriests - another amazing collaboration by Moebius and Jodorowsky.  Let’s not forget The Technopriests – another amazing collaboration by Moebius and Jodorowsky. 

]]> By: Martin Mois http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344628 Martin Mois Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344628 Jodorowsky continued the weirdness using the Metabaron character from The Incal to create with Juan Gimenez, the Saga of the Meta-barons. Jodorowsky continued the weirdness using the Metabaron character from The Incal to create with Juan Gimenez, the Saga of the Meta-barons.

]]> By: monstrinho http://boingboing.net/2012/02/13/the-incal-classic-w.html#comment-1344596 monstrinho Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=143496#comment-1344596 sounds a little bit like The Incal is to scifi what Requiem Vampire Knight is to horror. Beautiful what-the-fuckery that delights far more than anyone cares about the plot. I shall have to check it out. sounds a little bit like The Incal is to scifi what Requiem Vampire Knight is to horror. Beautiful what-the-fuckery that delights far more than anyone cares about the plot. I shall have to check it out.

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