Comments on: Newspaper claims Vikileaks Twitter account traced back to House of Commons http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Mon, 20 May 2013 02:16:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Adrian Inness http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1349733 Adrian Inness Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1349733 In the US I think it's part of the Patriot Act which allows for warrantless wiretaps. Which this amounts to or will eventually. In the US I think it’s part of the Patriot Act which allows for warrantless wiretaps. Which this amounts to or will eventually.

]]> By: Shawn H Corey http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1349396 Shawn H Corey Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1349396 Once again the government shows that it thinks it's special. There is nothing in Vikileaks that isn't public domain, so where's the wrong doing? Why should the taxpayer pay for an investigation where there is no wrong doing? And yes, government employees can make politician statements, the same as anyone else. Once again the government shows that it thinks it’s special. There is nothing in Vikileaks that isn’t public domain, so where’s the wrong doing? Why should the taxpayer pay for an investigation where there is no wrong doing? And yes, government employees can make politician statements, the same as anyone else.

]]> By: opendna http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1349379 opendna Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1349379  That is, no doubt his claim, but it's untrue. It is both permissible and common for House of Commons networks to be used for personal (and political!) purposes. My check of the time stamps on the Vikileaks30 feed showed that the work-day tweets fell within either lunch hour or statutory break times for that time zone. I doubt the tweeter was even on the clock.  That is, no doubt his claim, but it’s untrue. It is both permissible and common for House of Commons networks to be used for personal (and political!) purposes. My check of the time stamps on the Vikileaks30 feed showed that the work-day tweets fell within either lunch hour or statutory break times for that time zone. I doubt the tweeter was even on the clock.

]]> By: NickFill http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1349142 NickFill Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1349142 I can't feel sorry for Vic. -- He changed the name of the bill the night before it was introduced to mislead the public,  and then he said that people who were against the bill supported child molesters. What could be dirtier than this? -- Well, maybe some of the ideas that Stephen Harper has are very dark and secretive:   http://nickfillmore.blogspot.com/2012/02/is-stephen-harper-displaying-fascist.html I can’t feel sorry for Vic. — He changed the name of the bill the night before it was introduced to mislead the public,  and then he said that people who were against the bill supported child molesters. What could be dirtier than this? — Well, maybe some of the ideas that Stephen Harper has are very dark and secretive:  
http://nickfillmore.blogspot.com/2012/02/is-stephen-harper-displaying-fascist.html

]]> By: DevinC http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1349062 DevinC Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1349062 I think his rationale is that using a government computer for personal reasons is misuse of public property.   I think his rationale is that using a government computer for personal reasons is misuse of public property.  

]]> By: Ipo http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1349057 Ipo Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1349057 <a href="http://ipfuck.paulds.fr/" rel="nofollow">This kind of thing</a>  seems relevant. This kind of thing  seems relevant.

]]> By: Joe Seatter http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1348973 Joe Seatter Fri, 17 Feb 2012 21:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1348973 So Toews is pursuing legal action because someone revealed his divorce info?   It's publicly available information, anyone willing to walk down to the courthouse where it was filed can view it.  Same goes for the majority of court documents. So Toews is pursuing legal action because someone revealed his divorce info?   It’s publicly available information, anyone willing to walk down to the courthouse where it was filed can view it.  Same goes for the majority of court documents.

]]> By: HahTse http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1348910 HahTse Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1348910 Didn't it occur to the guy from the newspaper, that the machine used to post the twitter info maybe is a zombie? Didn’t it occur to the guy from the newspaper, that the machine used to post the twitter info maybe is a zombie?

]]> By: boo http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1348774 boo Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1348774 Oh jeez, I am way too old for this! The RCMP used to camp outside the student co-op that I lived in. Having been subject to "scrutiny" in the past, I can tell everyone reading this that nobody in the security services cares about your life. On the other hand, lots of scammers/trolls do: and every time the government opens another channel for unrestricted access, you can bet that the liars and cheats and thieves will find it. Cheers! Oh jeez, I am way too old for this! The RCMP used to camp outside the student co-op that I lived in.

Having been subject to “scrutiny” in the past, I can tell everyone reading this that nobody in the security services cares about your life.

On the other hand, lots of scammers/trolls do: and every time the government opens another channel for unrestricted access, you can bet that the liars and cheats and thieves will find it.

Cheers!

]]> By: hakuin http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1348770 hakuin Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1348770  when will something be done about the child pornography resident on Toews' computer/phone/etc.? I am quite sure he must have received some by now - which  makes him quite, quite guilty. Doesn't it?  when will something be done about the child pornography resident on Toews’ computer/phone/etc.?
I am quite sure he must have received some by now – which  makes him quite, quite guilty.
Doesn’t it?

]]> By: Ryan Lenethen http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1348728 Ryan Lenethen Fri, 17 Feb 2012 18:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1348728 Vic is now spinning it that he is angry over the misuse of government property. Also the house announced they are "looking into it" which means an investigation. The only thing I see, is that Vic is using taxpayer money for an investigation about his leaked information, where if this bill passes, and it is information about you or me that is "leaked", we'll be out of luck. Vic is now spinning it that he is angry over the misuse of government property. Also the house announced they are “looking into it” which means an investigation. The only thing I see, is that Vic is using taxpayer money for an investigation about his leaked information, where if this bill passes, and it is information about you or me that is “leaked”, we’ll be out of luck.

]]> By: Rob Maxwell http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1348692 Rob Maxwell Fri, 17 Feb 2012 18:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1348692 This would be a good time to point out that an IP Addr == a person.   This would be a good time to point out that an IP Addr == a person.  

]]> By: goopy http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1348685 goopy Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1348685 Nope the tweeter didn't break any law. He was just disseminating what's available for public access in first place.  Nope the tweeter didn’t break any law. He was just disseminating what’s available for public access in first place. 

]]> By: goopy http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1348683 goopy Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1348683 And it is hardly used for tracking pedophiles as Vic Toews suggested. And it is hardly used for tracking pedophiles as Vic Toews suggested.

]]> By: uricacid http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1348668 uricacid Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1348668 I was under the impression that all the information in the tweets was public record.  As in, no law (that I know of) has been actually broken.  No? I was under the impression that all the information in the tweets was public record.  As in, no law (that I know of) has been actually broken.  No?

]]> By: foobar http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1348656 foobar Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1348656 While it might be from someone there, it's entirely possible that the guy running it saw through their little ruse and decided to spoof an address that would get them all a titter. While it might be from someone there, it’s entirely possible that the guy running it saw through their little ruse and decided to spoof an address that would get them all a titter.

]]> By: Sarge Misfit http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1348655 Sarge Misfit Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:05:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1348655 Well, the proposed bill does allow any government agent to have access to the info (not just the police) and it sure sounds like the person behind @Vikileaks30 is a government agent, so they're just jumping the gun in anticipation of the bill getting passed, aren't they? Well, the proposed bill does allow any government agent to have access to the info (not just the police) and it sure sounds like the person behind @Vikileaks30 is a government agent, so they’re just jumping the gun in anticipation of the bill getting passed, aren’t they?

]]> By: Brad Brzezinski http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1348652 Brad Brzezinski Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1348652 According to Vic Toews the new law is what's already in place in the US and Europe. I haven't had time to check but there is this from 2011: "By a 19 to 10 vote, a House committee votes to require Internet service providers to keep track of what their users are doing for one year in case it would be useful for future police investigations."Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20084939-281/house-panel-approves-broadened-isp-snooping-bill/#ixzz1mevbreRKThat said, I'd rather Canada lead in the freedom business than just be like other countries. According to Vic Toews the new law is what’s already in place in the US and Europe. I haven’t had time to check but there is this from 2011:

“By a 19 to 10 vote, a House committee votes to require Internet service providers to keep track of what their users are doing for one year in case it would be useful for future police investigations.”Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20084939-281/house-panel-approves-broadened-isp-snooping-bill/#ixzz1mevbreRKThat said, I’d rather Canada lead in the freedom business than just be like other countries.

]]> By: Hugh Stimson http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1348651 Hugh Stimson Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1348651 It's possible the twitterer works for the NDP, but it seems likely that staffers from lots of parties all go through that IP gateway. It is after all the House of Commons. Alice Funke at  http://www.punditsguide.ca notes that visitors to her site from that IP address have been interested in material about all the major federal parties.  Not that I'd mind if it was someone from the NDP. Given the way the Conservatives have chosen to interpret the role of other parties in a "majority" government, tweeting is about all that's left to them so they might as well use it. It’s possible the twitterer works for the NDP, but it seems likely that staffers from lots of parties all go through that IP gateway. It is after all the House of Commons.

Alice Funke at 
http://www.punditsguide.ca notes that visitors to her site from that IP address have been interested in material about all the major federal parties. 
Not that I’d mind if it was someone from the NDP. Given the way the Conservatives have chosen to interpret the role of other parties in a “majority” government, tweeting is about all that’s left to them so they might as well use it.

]]> By: suburbanhick http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1348648 suburbanhick Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1348648 It wouldn't in the least surprise me to see this traced back to one of Harper's droogs. It would be about on par with what Canadians have come to expect from "The Harper Government"®, unfortunately. When they get caught pulling s**t like this, they self-righteously bluster and play the wounded patriot until it's categorically proven that they really were in fact up to some nasty s**t, then they just clam up completely and use their majority to "I'm not going to comment on that" their way through it.  It wouldn’t in the least surprise me to see this traced back to one of Harper’s droogs. It would be about on par with what Canadians have come to expect from “The Harper Government”®, unfortunately. When they get caught pulling s**t like this, they self-righteously bluster and play the wounded patriot until it’s categorically proven that they really were in fact up to some nasty s**t, then they just clam up completely and use their majority to “I’m not going to comment on that” their way through it. 

]]> By: Mordicai http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1348641 Mordicai Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1348641 "...pushing for a domestic spying law that would require ISPs to gather and retain your personal information and turn it over to police without a warrant." That IS a vicious lie to be spreading about someone; whoever is starting these rumors should be...wait, what?  That is true?  He is?  Oh, well then, he's a monster. “…pushing for a domestic spying law that would require ISPs to gather and retain your personal information and turn it over to police without a warrant.”

That IS a vicious lie to be spreading about someone; whoever is starting these rumors should be…wait, what?  That is true?  He is?  Oh, well then, he’s a monster.

]]> By: autark http://boingboing.net/2012/02/17/newspaper-claims-vikileaks-twi.html#comment-1348636 autark Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144462#comment-1348636 it's not just protestors and dissidents in totalitarian governments who would benefit the use of some anonymizing software (TOR, SSH tunneling, etc).  somebody get this guy on a proxy stat!  it’s not just protestors and dissidents in totalitarian governments who would benefit the use of some anonymizing software (TOR, SSH tunneling, etc). 

somebody get this guy on a proxy stat! 

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