Comments on: Anonymous video threatens Canada's domestic spying minister with embarrassing disclosures http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:10:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Patrick Kanne http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1352743 Patrick Kanne Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1352743 That would just turn me on... ...what? That would just turn me on…

…what?

]]> By: Greekster http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351723 Greekster Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351723 A few changes of your words here and you could easily sound like a conservative who is angry over the support of Planned Parenthood. Indeed many conservative who think abortion is murder feel the same sentiment of  "there's nothing left to do..." as you do.   Though it hasn't really happened yet (that I know of), there's nothing stopping a conservative version of anonymous from forming and hacking progressive institutions. Were that to happen, would it be covered in the same way or reacted to similarly on a blog like this one? I wonder. I think this vid was a fake, but while anonymous may have attacked institutions that I think have abused power, their tactics, if proven effective enough and succeed often enough, will likely be copied by those whom you may not like or agree with.  Illegal and dirty is still illegal and dirty.  Be careful what you wish for... A few changes of your words here and you could easily sound like a conservative who is angry over the support of Planned Parenthood. Indeed many conservative who think abortion is murder feel the same sentiment of  ”there’s nothing left to do…” as you do.  

Though it hasn’t really happened yet (that I know of), there’s nothing stopping a conservative version of anonymous from forming and hacking progressive institutions. Were that to happen, would it be covered in the same way or reacted to similarly on a blog like this one? I wonder.

I think this vid was a fake, but while anonymous may have attacked institutions that I think have abused power, their tactics, if proven effective enough and succeed often enough, will likely be copied by those whom you may not like or agree with. 

Illegal and dirty is still illegal and dirty. 

Be careful what you wish for…

]]> By: Ryan Lenethen http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351633 Ryan Lenethen Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351633 The more I hear, the more I think this is all conservative ideology mixed with incompetence. I believe Vic when he said he had no idea that section not requiring a warrant was in the bill. I doubt Vic actually read the thing. Some crime lobby wrote the bill to give more powers to the police. Vic just accepted it at face value as it aligns with crazy conservative dogma. This is exactly like the copyright scandal a few years back (which continues today), where it was found that the EXACT wording was found in documents produced by a US lobbyist and passed off as produced as Canadian government. So stupid and incompetent while being blindly ideological, is slightly better than willfully evil trying to subvert freedom. In other words he is just a right wing idiot, not an evil mastermind. Surprisingly the public and the opposition did a rather good job of pointing this out, which is a good thing, democracy at work (assuming it gets altered significantly or dies, and isn't just snuck through, in which case that would be willfully evil).  Of course there is noting preventing something else from slipping past under the radar. I guess these days people just have to be more vigilant about there rights and freedoms than they did perhaps in the past. (by that I mean rather than trying to gain more, you have to watch that you aren't losing any all the time).  The more I hear, the more I think this is all conservative ideology mixed with incompetence. I believe Vic when he said he had no idea that section not requiring a warrant was in the bill. I doubt Vic actually read the thing. Some crime lobby wrote the bill to give more powers to the police. Vic just accepted it at face value as it aligns with crazy conservative dogma. This is exactly like the copyright scandal a few years back (which continues today), where it was found that the EXACT wording was found in documents produced by a US lobbyist and passed off as produced as Canadian government. So stupid and incompetent while being blindly ideological, is slightly better than willfully evil trying to subvert freedom. In other words he is just a right wing idiot, not an evil mastermind. Surprisingly the public and the opposition did a rather good job of pointing this out, which is a good thing, democracy at work (assuming it gets altered significantly or dies, and isn’t just snuck through, in which case that would be willfully evil).  Of course there is noting preventing something else from slipping past under the radar. I guess these days people just have to be more vigilant about there rights and freedoms than they did perhaps in the past. (by that I mean rather than trying to gain more, you have to watch that you aren’t losing any all the time). 

]]> By: gerardwhelan http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351456 gerardwhelan Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351456 yeesh. it was meant as a provocation... sure, at this point they are 'hacktivists' (if there IS a 'they', who's to say there's ANY coordinated theory/philosophy that they stand by? seems logical today, but in five years?)... the point I was making is that IF they ultimately hold the reins of technological control (as Toews would agree this morning) then they have A power over the rest of us - they might even be tracking my personal and boring life as a result of making a comment. that was the point. also, I did read 1984. also, things change over time, and the old concept of Big Brother  (written in 1949) will also change from 'North Korea' (which is still in 1949 from the photos I've seen) to bots acquiring data on you and me, for a start... and then... we'll see. You can't decide for all of us to not adapt the usage of a term to the modern era, sorry. anyway, take it easy. deep breaths, less knee-jerk reactions to phraseology, open the mind. it's only a comment section, and one guy even thought I had touched on something, so... yeesh. it was meant as a provocation… sure, at this point they are ‘hacktivists’ (if there IS a ‘they’, who’s to say there’s ANY coordinated theory/philosophy that they stand by? seems logical today, but in five years?)… the point I was making is that IF they ultimately hold the reins of technological control (as Toews would agree this morning) then they have A power over the rest of us – they might even be tracking my personal and boring life as a result of making a comment. that was the point.
also, I did read 1984.
also, things change over time, and the old concept of Big Brother  (written in 1949) will also change from ‘North Korea’ (which is still in 1949 from the photos I’ve seen) to bots acquiring data on you and me, for a start… and then… we’ll see. You can’t decide for all of us to not adapt the usage of a term to the modern era, sorry.
anyway, take it easy. deep breaths, less knee-jerk reactions to phraseology, open the mind. it’s only a comment section, and one guy even thought I had touched on something, so…

]]> By: elix http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351362 elix Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:58:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351362 <blockquote>What was that? These elements are exactly the type of persons to recreate the internet from scratch if they need to?</blockquote>Looked at it in this perspective, Anonymous is the Internet-age equivalent of an entire army (of indeterminate size) of MacGuyvers.

What was that? These elements are exactly the type of persons to recreate the internet from scratch if they need to?

Looked at it in this perspective, Anonymous is the Internet-age equivalent of an entire army (of indeterminate size) of MacGuyvers.

]]> By: elix http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351359 elix Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351359 Can you explain how Harper appoints cabinet ministers if not from the members of his party sitting in parliament? I obviously got the wrong Social Studies textbooks in high school, it seems... Can you explain how Harper appoints cabinet ministers if not from the members of his party sitting in parliament? I obviously got the wrong Social Studies textbooks in high school, it seems…

]]> By: Hanglyman http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351321 Hanglyman Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351321 Anonymous really needs a more intimidating voice. One that sounds like SHODAN would be ideal. Anonymous really needs a more intimidating voice. One that sounds like SHODAN would be ideal.

]]> By: Patrick Kanne http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351297 Patrick Kanne Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351297 What a great plan! Lets completely bring society as we know it to a standstill to root out a few undesirable elements. Brilliant!!! What was that? These elements are exactly the type of persons to recreate the internet from scratch if they need to? Ah, but then we'll just track down every wifi signal and nuke those from orbit! It's the only way to be sure! What are you? A cartoon? What a great plan! Lets completely bring society as we know it to a standstill to root out a few undesirable elements. Brilliant!!!

What was that? These elements are exactly the type of persons to recreate the internet from scratch if they need to? Ah, but then we’ll just track down every wifi signal and nuke those from orbit! It’s the only way to be sure!

What are you? A cartoon?

]]> By: Patrick Kanne http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351292 Patrick Kanne Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351292 Of course I can blame him.. I just did! ;D Partially true. But it would be nice if some terms stay reserved for those who REALLY deserve it. Don't forget: Big Brother is North Korea. Anonymus is no where near. Plus, it is not a single homogenous group. They don't take direction. That is their strength but at the same time their weakness.. I think you should see them as the offspring of Democracy mating with Anarchy and lastly.. I like how they make my life feel like I'm in some kind of surreal movie, so shut up! ;) Of course I can blame him.. I just did! ;D

Partially true. But it would be nice if some terms stay reserved for those who REALLY deserve it. Don’t forget: Big Brother is North Korea. Anonymus is no where near. Plus, it is not a single homogenous group. They don’t take direction. That is their strength but at the same time their weakness.. I think you should see them as the offspring of Democracy mating with Anarchy

and lastly.. I like how they make my life feel like I’m in some kind of surreal movie, so shut up! ;)

]]> By: Patrick Kanne http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351286 Patrick Kanne Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351286 Also, what people fail to notice.. Anon isn't one person. It isn't even one single homogeneous group. From where I'm standing I see only three base principals: - they are fed up with their intelligence being insulted - they clearly have the means to push back - they use the Anon proxy both to give it credence and get credence from it A bit like how al quaida is said to be organised, but then with information in stead of explosives, a truly mythical figure-head and even more relentless.. Also, what people fail to notice.. Anon isn’t one person. It isn’t even one single homogeneous group. From where I’m standing I see only three base principals:

- they are fed up with their intelligence being insulted
- they clearly have the means to push back
- they use the Anon proxy both to give it credence and get credence from it

A bit like how al quaida is said to be organised, but then with information in stead of explosives, a truly mythical figure-head and even more relentless..

]]> By: Mantissa128 http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351240 Mantissa128 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351240 Well, it's bringing this bill back into the public consciousness at least, and that's a good thing. Well, it’s bringing this bill back into the public consciousness at least, and that’s a good thing.

]]> By: That_Anonymous_Coward http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351193 That_Anonymous_Coward Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351193 Yes because to cut off the entire internet would not annoy anyone but Anons. There would not be public outcry and swelling numbers of people who would end up behaving exactly like Anons.... Not like anyone with Anon type sympathies has ever considered building self contained mesh networks to use in repressive countries... oh wait... they have. The genie... well out of the bottle...  to attempt to cram it back in not going to work... Yes because to cut off the entire internet would not annoy anyone but Anons.
There would not be public outcry and swelling numbers of people who would end up behaving exactly like Anons….
Not like anyone with Anon type sympathies has ever considered building self contained mesh networks to use in repressive countries… oh wait… they have.

The genie… well out of the bottle…  to attempt to cram it back in not going to work…

]]> By: machinestate http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351179 machinestate Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351179 lets also rememebr anon's attack on Harpaer more than likely includes multiple, decentralized agencies , acting on their own under the label "anno", possibly sharing info, but acting on theit own interests, or what they deem to be "the peoples' interests". lets also rememebr anon’s attack on Harpaer more than likely includes multiple, decentralized agencies , acting on their own under the label “anno”, possibly sharing info, but acting on theit own interests, or what they deem to be “the peoples’ interests”.

]]> By: machinestate http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351177 machinestate Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351177 <i>In responsoe to video:</i> Sorry, but "prying the internet from your cold dead hands" isn't a factor.  Unless they take up older technologies en masse (e.g. BBS, radio & SSTV) "anonymous" ceases to exist without a C&C structure, and without public internet.  If "the opperssors" want to destroy "anon", it's a mere matter ofunplugging a few-hundred server cables for a year or so. In responsoe to video:
Sorry, but “prying the internet from your cold dead hands” isn’t a factor.  Unless they take up older technologies en masse (e.g. BBS, radio & SSTV) “anonymous” ceases to exist without a C&C structure, and without public internet.  If “the opperssors” want to destroy “anon”, it’s a mere matter ofunplugging a few-hundred server cables for a year or so.

]]> By: liquidstar http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351176 liquidstar Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351176  Well there is the whole Northern Foundation thing.  But I haven't been able to effectively verify the story as yet.  Well there is the whole Northern Foundation thing.  But I haven’t been able to effectively verify the story as yet.

]]> By: Peter http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351171 Peter Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351171 I kinda wish a major ISP would have said, "We certainly will comply with any law passed.  In fact, in advance of this proposed law, we have already started saving and recording all IP traffic coming from MPs who support this bill, and are, as of this moment, willing to release it, without a warrant, the moment any law enforcement officer anywhere requests it for any reason.  We will continue this policy as long as this bill is looking likely to pass." I kinda wish a major ISP would have said, “We certainly will comply with any law passed.  In fact, in advance of this proposed law, we have already started saving and recording all IP traffic coming from MPs who support this bill, and are, as of this moment, willing to release it, without a warrant, the moment any law enforcement officer anywhere requests it for any reason.  We will continue this policy as long as this bill is looking likely to pass.”

]]> By: liquidstar http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351167 liquidstar Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351167  I find the whole "if it bleeds it leads" kind of thing Vik is trying to do here kind of funny for a hardline conservative.  Surely politicians at his level receive death threats every day.  But now we need to take some seriously. A very specific few.  I find the whole “if it bleeds it leads” kind of thing Vik is trying to do here kind of funny for a hardline conservative.  Surely politicians at his level receive death threats every day.  But now we need to take some seriously. A very specific few.

]]> By: teapot http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351165 teapot Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351165 Hahaha - unrelated, but anon just announced that they've taken down http://ministryofjustice.gr/ I wonder if IT is on the chopping block of austerity? Hahaha – unrelated, but anon just announced that they’ve taken down http://ministryofjustice.gr/

I wonder if IT is on the chopping block of austerity?

]]> By: liquidstar http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351164 liquidstar Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351164  George Orwell's work 1984 is probably off the high school curriculum now.  Can you blame him?  Besides he does have something of a point.  Anonymous does take a lot onto itself;  even if it is hard to take seriously.  Witness the recent DoS on Christopher Hedges.  George Orwell’s work 1984 is probably off the high school curriculum now.  Can you blame him?  Besides he does have something of a point.  Anonymous does take a lot onto itself;  even if it is hard to take seriously.  Witness the recent DoS on Christopher Hedges.

]]> By: Dan Allard http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351156 Dan Allard Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351156 I suspect that 'death threats' is a deliberate exaggeration from Toews' camp or at best a misinterpretation. I suspect that ‘death threats’ is a deliberate exaggeration from Toews’ camp or at best a misinterpretation.

]]> By: That_Anonymous_Coward http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351118 That_Anonymous_Coward Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351118 Toews is pushing a bill that would allow exactly what is happening to him to happen. The difference is they (Government or appointees) would gather the information quietly and use it to bend people to their will or destroy those they see as threats to themselves. I fully believe these Anons have something, but it might not be as earth shattering as one might hope.  They are engaging this fool in a game of chicken.  Toews is undoubtedly wracking his brain trying to remember EVERYTHING he ever did wrong, and given how he presents his image (and what we have seen about people like that historically) its a long freaking list. The press really can not ignore what is happening, Anonymous has thrown down the gauntlet and trying to pretend its not happening will not work.  The press will have to cover the threat and answer the question of why would Anonymous do this... oh it might have something to do with that bill that lets us get copies of all your emails.  The genie is out of the bottle, even if they do a half assed bit of coverage, people will Google Anonymous and Toews and find stories like this. The sad part is Toews will be trying to decide how to discredit Anonymous, a group already pilloried as the evil vile scum of the interwebs.  Sure they might have shut down actual CP trade, sure they might have encouraged people world wide to stand up for whats right, sure they might have sent strippers and pizzas to some dude who was stupid online... but Mr. Toews... they have a better public perception than you have. Your stupid to pursue this bill any further, and you might get someone else to lead the charge... but unless they never had an email account they will fall as well.  Withdraw the bill and pray Anonymous keeps it word... Because it would be lulzy to have your secrets released anyways and watch you flailing trying to explain away what they have... and what others will find once they start looking. Anonymous did you a favor, they showed you exactly what this bill would let happen.  They just didn't let you keep yourself immune to it, makes you feel safer doesn't it? Toews is pushing a bill that would allow exactly what is happening to him to happen.
The difference is they (Government or appointees) would gather the information quietly and use it to bend people to their will or destroy those they see as threats to themselves.

I fully believe these Anons have something, but it might not be as earth shattering as one might hope.  They are engaging this fool in a game of chicken.  Toews is undoubtedly wracking his brain trying to remember EVERYTHING he ever did wrong, and given how he presents his image (and what we have seen about people like that historically) its a long freaking list.

The press really can not ignore what is happening, Anonymous has thrown down the gauntlet and trying to pretend its not happening will not work.  The press will have to cover the threat and answer the question of why would Anonymous do this… oh it might have something to do with that bill that lets us get copies of all your emails.  The genie is out of the bottle, even if they do a half assed bit of coverage, people will Google Anonymous and Toews and find stories like this.

The sad part is Toews will be trying to decide how to discredit Anonymous, a group already pilloried as the evil vile scum of the interwebs.  Sure they might have shut down actual CP trade, sure they might have encouraged people world wide to stand up for whats right, sure they might have sent strippers and pizzas to some dude who was stupid online… but Mr. Toews… they have a better public perception than you have.

Your stupid to pursue this bill any further, and you might get someone else to lead the charge… but unless they never had an email account they will fall as well.  Withdraw the bill and pray Anonymous keeps it word…
Because it would be lulzy to have your secrets released anyways and watch you flailing trying to explain away what they have… and what others will find once they start looking.

Anonymous did you a favor, they showed you exactly what this bill would let happen.  They just didn’t let you keep yourself immune to it, makes you feel safer doesn’t it?

]]> By: teapot http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351110 teapot Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351110 By this stage the powers that be have worn me down to an almost-silent 'meh' when it comes to worrying about them being blackmailed. I just don't care. They fuck with our freedoms and then, when they retire, they will laugh their fat asses all the way to the bank as they cash in their lifetime pension, courtesy of the taxpayer. They have desensitised me to callous disregard for self-interested people through their actions over the last decade. By this stage the powers that be have worn me down to an almost-silent ‘meh’ when it comes to worrying about them being blackmailed. I just don’t care. They fuck with our freedoms and then, when they retire, they will laugh their fat asses all the way to the bank as they cash in their lifetime pension, courtesy of the taxpayer. They have desensitised me to callous disregard for self-interested people through their actions over the last decade.

]]> By: teapot http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351100 teapot Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351100 Watching Toews squirm will be even more enjoyable now. I like the Anon vids but I think this one would have had even more impact without the Hollywood-style dramatic soundtrack. The words speak for themselves and the voice alone would have been more terrifying. Watching Toews squirm will be even more enjoyable now. I like the Anon vids but I think this one would have had even more impact without the Hollywood-style dramatic soundtrack. The words speak for themselves and the voice alone would have been more terrifying.

]]> By: davidasposted http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351094 davidasposted Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351094 Not as difficult as you might think, Kit. The Canadian Press do not often publish the details of politicians' private lives until they explode (e.g. the Maxime Bernier biker-girlfriend-has-access-to-secret-NATO-documents scandal). But that does not mean they are unaware of the private scandals of Canadian politicians, including the prime minister himself. Not as difficult as you might think, Kit. The Canadian Press do not often publish the details of politicians’ private lives until they explode (e.g. the Maxime Bernier biker-girlfriend-has-access-to-secret-NATO-documents scandal). But that does not mean they are unaware of the private scandals of Canadian politicians, including the prime minister himself.

]]> By: Patrick Kanne http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351089 Patrick Kanne Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351089 You mean as in how "the laughing man" was hijacked by the police officials in "Ghost In The Shell: stand alone complex"? :D You mean as in how “the laughing man” was hijacked by the police officials in “Ghost In The Shell: stand alone complex”?

:D

]]> By: Hakuin http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351032 Hakuin Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351032 or perhaps Harper is a ruthless, calculating user and manipulator.  Perhaps an ambulatory boil like Toews is expendable and already near the end of his political usefulness.   Perhaps there are smokescreens within smokescreens and the real conspiracy lays in the frenetic gathering of names and preparation of secret kangaroo courts that is quietly and furiously going  on in the background.   What would  serve Harper and his corporate owners?  You can be quite sure that they are content to let Canadians play with their toy "democracy" and distract themselves from the larger, profitable matters.  After all, a nation of children that happily slept while their very nation was thieved out from under them is hardly a threat now, is it? or perhaps Harper is a ruthless, calculating user and manipulator.  Perhaps an ambulatory boil like Toews is expendable and already near the end of his political usefulness.   Perhaps there are smokescreens within smokescreens and the real conspiracy lays in the frenetic gathering of names and preparation of secret kangaroo courts that is quietly and furiously going  on in the background.   What would  serve Harper and his corporate owners?  You can be quite sure that they are content to let Canadians play with their toy “democracy” and distract themselves from the larger, profitable matters.  After all, a nation of children that happily slept while their very nation was thieved out from under them is hardly a threat now, is it?

]]> By: foobar http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351024 foobar Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351024 Those who want everyone else to live in glass houses should probably buy some windex. Those who want everyone else to live in glass houses should probably buy some windex.

]]> By: goopy http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351019 goopy Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351019 Looking for sex in public washroom?  Looking for sex in public washroom? 

]]> By: goopy http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351016 goopy Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351016 Agree, it's manipulative; just dump it on internet already. Agree, it’s manipulative; just dump it on internet already.

]]> By: Joshua Barney http://boingboing.net/2012/02/21/144816.html#comment-1351011 Joshua Barney Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=144816#comment-1351011 Do you neglect to use hyphens, or would you rather sacrifice THE VERY FREEDOM TO FORMULATE FALSE DICHOTOMIES? I leave it up to you. It's an issue of conscience. I trust you will make the right decision. Do you neglect to use hyphens, or would you rather sacrifice THE VERY FREEDOM TO FORMULATE FALSE DICHOTOMIES?

I leave it up to you. It’s an issue of conscience. I trust you will make the right decision.

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