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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually live in Pasadena, but not being a dancer myself I have no idea who&#039;s dancing what these days.  I know there&#039;s the Fred Astaire Dance Academy over on Lake St, and by the look of the place people have been learning to lindy-hop there for the last six or seven decades.  And God knows the older folks have kept their own dance styles alive.  I have no idea where the nearest square dancers are to my house, but I have no doubt that they&#039;re out there still.  Somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually live in Pasadena, but not being a dancer myself I have no idea who&#8217;s dancing what these days.  I know there&#8217;s the Fred Astaire Dance Academy over on Lake St, and by the look of the place people have been learning to lindy-hop there for the last six or seven decades.  And God knows the older folks have kept their own dance styles alive.  I have no idea where the nearest square dancers are to my house, but I have no doubt that they&#8217;re out there still.  Somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Derby was the first place I saw it, during a wrap party I attended in 1997 or so.  I don&#039;t know if it caught on in the rest of the country, but it did get huge in L.A. for a while there.  I guess it got big enough for Big Bad Voodoo Daddy to play the halftime show at the Super Bowl in 1999.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Derby was the first place I saw it, during a wrap party I attended in 1997 or so.  I don&#8217;t know if it caught on in the rest of the country, but it did get huge in L.A. for a while there.  I guess it got big enough for Big Bad Voodoo Daddy to play the halftime show at the Super Bowl in 1999.</p>
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		<title>By: Ant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 07:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Show the 1980s/80s!</description>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1354386</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 04:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Totally agree. Grunge was about the the last overall fashion trend to take hold nationally; since then it&#039;s been pretty much do what ya want. It makes it difficult to put a label on a decade, but the more I think about it, the more I think it&#039;s a Good Thing (as Martha Stewart would say).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Totally agree. Grunge was about the the last overall fashion trend to take hold nationally; since then it&#8217;s been pretty much do what ya want. It makes it difficult to put a label on a decade, but the more I think about it, the more I think it&#8217;s a Good Thing (as Martha Stewart would say).</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 04:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I remember it -- I was doing the Lindy Hop at The Derby in Los Angeles. But I thought it was mostly a West Coast fad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I remember it &#8212; I was doing the Lindy Hop at The Derby in Los Angeles. But I thought it was mostly a West Coast fad?</p>
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		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
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		<dc:creator>penguinchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just a kid in the 90&#039;s (high school class of 20004) but that&#039;s how I remember it too. Also, my car has a cassette tape player. The thing that&#039;s outdated for me is the CD changer - I use the cassette player with an adapter to plug in my phone or other audio source because there&#039;s no aux-in. There are some burned CDs in the changer, but I never listen to them - it&#039;s either NPR on the radio (which is delightfully old school!) or podcasts and occasionally music from my smartphone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just a kid in the 90&#8242;s (high school class of 20004) but that&#8217;s how I remember it too. Also, my car has a cassette tape player. The thing that&#8217;s outdated for me is the CD changer &#8211; I use the cassette player with an adapter to plug in my phone or other audio source because there&#8217;s no aux-in. There are some burned CDs in the changer, but I never listen to them &#8211; it&#8217;s either NPR on the radio (which is delightfully old school!) or podcasts and occasionally music from my smartphone.</p>
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		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1354134</link>
		<dc:creator>penguinchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno where you live in SoCal but there are thriving swing dance places in Orange County (I forget where but maybe Costa Mesa or Huntington Beach?) and Pasadena (where Bill Nye the Science Guy is said to dance almost weekly), and I know about them even though no one I know does it and I&#039;ve never gone (too intimidating for me due to lack of dance talent or skill).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno where you live in SoCal but there are thriving swing dance places in Orange County (I forget where but maybe Costa Mesa or Huntington Beach?) and Pasadena (where Bill Nye the Science Guy is said to dance almost weekly), and I know about them even though no one I know does it and I&#8217;ve never gone (too intimidating for me due to lack of dance talent or skill).</p>
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		<title>By: gwailo_joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwailo_joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Class of 93 yo...good riffs you mention: I...had that haircut.  But shaving the sides slowly crept up until half was bald and the other half down my back.

It seemed like a good idea at the time.

Actually the prom picture of the goth-esque kids was a fair approximation of my people in those days...I worked at a comic book store in the early 90&#039;s: it was a good time for that particular culture, Dark Knight and Watchmen, Sandman and manga translations...Robin died, Spiderman got a black suit, the Batman movie etc...before the death of back issue values...there was a lot of interest.

I met my friends in high school through music: I sewed a huge Iron Maiden patch on the back of my 49ers starter jacket (those things were a throwback too as a matter of fact)...but it really was the end of hair metal: hip hop and grunge made it seem, I dunno: fey and foolish.  

By the end of the decade I was all about raves and the drugs and music that go hand in hand with such a lifestyle: of course everyone was always bemoaning the fact that &#039;the scene was WAY better when it was underground X-years ago...&#039;

But it seemed pretty cool and fun to me.

Also I remember the feeling after Yeltsin calmed the coup: &#039;I guess the Russians WON&#039;T be nuking us into annihilation...sweet!&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Class of 93 yo&#8230;good riffs you mention: I&#8230;had that haircut.  But shaving the sides slowly crept up until half was bald and the other half down my back.</p>
<p>It seemed like a good idea at the time.</p>
<p>Actually the prom picture of the goth-esque kids was a fair approximation of my people in those days&#8230;I worked at a comic book store in the early 90&#8242;s: it was a good time for that particular culture, Dark Knight and Watchmen, Sandman and manga translations&#8230;Robin died, Spiderman got a black suit, the Batman movie etc&#8230;before the death of back issue values&#8230;there was a lot of interest.</p>
<p>I met my friends in high school through music: I sewed a huge Iron Maiden patch on the back of my 49ers starter jacket (those things were a throwback too as a matter of fact)&#8230;but it really was the end of hair metal: hip hop and grunge made it seem, I dunno: fey and foolish.  </p>
<p>By the end of the decade I was all about raves and the drugs and music that go hand in hand with such a lifestyle: of course everyone was always bemoaning the fact that &#8216;the scene was WAY better when it was underground X-years ago&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>But it seemed pretty cool and fun to me.</p>
<p>Also I remember the feeling after Yeltsin calmed the coup: &#8216;I guess the Russians WON&#8217;T be nuking us into annihilation&#8230;sweet!&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1354000</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 04:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah.  Well, you got me there.</description>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1353958</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 03:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Oftentimes it&#039;s difficult to pinpoint significant aspects of the decade you&#039;re in, mostly because you&#039;re immersed in it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Not sure if you really read my response to him or if you just didn&#039;t comprehend what I wrote...

I soundly addressed this.  By 1992, the Grunge genre was already very well established in popular culture.  The American public didn&#039;t look back on it later in the 2000&#039;s and then finally label it &quot;Grunge&quot;.

New music genres are a big deal in popular culture and people know when it&#039;s happening (as it&#039;s happening) and genres are labeled accordingly within magazines, radio, Internet and TV as it&#039;s happening.  Grunge was certainly no exception.

Your anecdotal experience doesn&#039;t match what was going on for the majority of the public. Grunge was a very well known genre and mentioned directly by name on the cover of Rolling Stone, Time, SPIN, Newsweek, etc., etc...&lt;b&gt;during&lt;/b&gt; the early and mid 90&#039;s.

You are literally the only person (aside from perhaps Dewi) I&#039;ve ever talked to who was an adult in the 90&#039;s and didn&#039;t know about Grunge during the 90&#039;s as it was happening.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/90%27s#Music

Dudes, we&#039;re heading into 2013.  What was the new genre for the 2000&#039;s? (not talking about sub-genres).

If you can name one, be sure and add it to this Wikipedia entry which is entirely devoid of new music genres:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000s_(decade)#Music

Hey, I don&#039;t like it either.  I really wish there wasn&#039;t a limited bandwidth for new music genres... but that&#039;s the reality and we reached it in the nineties.

And, we&#039;re fast running out of new sub-genres as well.  Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but denial won&#039;t change this fact.

If you still don&#039;t believe.. read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000s_in_music#Overview

&lt;b&gt;FTA:&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;The 2000s have been criticized as creating a lack of new genres. Whilst music in previous decades had a defined sound producing two or three genres, the 2000s produced no epoch defining trends.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Oftentimes it&#8217;s difficult to pinpoint significant aspects of the decade you&#8217;re in, mostly because you&#8217;re immersed in it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not sure if you really read my response to him or if you just didn&#8217;t comprehend what I wrote&#8230;</p>
<p>I soundly addressed this.  By 1992, the Grunge genre was already very well established in popular culture.  The American public didn&#8217;t look back on it later in the 2000&#8242;s and then finally label it &#8220;Grunge&#8221;.</p>
<p>New music genres are a big deal in popular culture and people know when it&#8217;s happening (as it&#8217;s happening) and genres are labeled accordingly within magazines, radio, Internet and TV as it&#8217;s happening.  Grunge was certainly no exception.</p>
<p>Your anecdotal experience doesn&#8217;t match what was going on for the majority of the public. Grunge was a very well known genre and mentioned directly by name on the cover of Rolling Stone, Time, SPIN, Newsweek, etc., etc&#8230;<b>during</b> the early and mid 90&#8242;s.</p>
<p>You are literally the only person (aside from perhaps Dewi) I&#8217;ve ever talked to who was an adult in the 90&#8242;s and didn&#8217;t know about Grunge during the 90&#8242;s as it was happening.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/90%27s#Music" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/90%27s#Music</a></p>
<p>Dudes, we&#8217;re heading into 2013.  What was the new genre for the 2000&#8242;s? (not talking about sub-genres).</p>
<p>If you can name one, be sure and add it to this Wikipedia entry which is entirely devoid of new music genres:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000s_(decade)#Music" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000s_(decade)#Music</a></p>
<p>Hey, I don&#8217;t like it either.  I really wish there wasn&#8217;t a limited bandwidth for new music genres&#8230; but that&#8217;s the reality and we reached it in the nineties.</p>
<p>And, we&#8217;re fast running out of new sub-genres as well.  Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but denial won&#8217;t change this fact.</p>
<p>If you still don&#8217;t believe.. read this:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000s_in_music#Overview" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000s_in_music#Overview</a></p>
<p><b>FTA:</b></p>
<blockquote><p>The 2000s have been criticized as creating a lack of new genres. Whilst music in previous decades had a defined sound producing two or three genres, the 2000s produced no epoch defining trends.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Tony Mercer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1353946</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Mercer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really associate most of these pictures with the 90s.  If anything, they represent an inter-era:  1985-1995.  Except for the picture of the Chicago Bulls, none of them clearly represent the late 90s when I was in high school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really associate most of these pictures with the 90s.  If anything, they represent an inter-era:  1985-1995.  Except for the picture of the Chicago Bulls, none of them clearly represent the late 90s when I was in high school.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Berglund</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1353904</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Berglund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donald Peterson -- seeing as I couldn&#039;t reply to your reply to my reply up above, I thought I&#039;d pour out my honey down here, and say to you: what fun is discussing a frivolous cultural movement without supposing nefarious and/or backwards motives?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donald Peterson &#8212; seeing as I couldn&#8217;t reply to your reply to my reply up above, I thought I&#8217;d pour out my honey down here, and say to you: what fun is discussing a frivolous cultural movement without supposing nefarious and/or backwards motives?</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, since most of the swing dancers and musicians of the late 90s were GenXers, I have to doubt they were particularly nostalgic for the actual era itself.  I think they just really got into the fun and style, the energy and exuberant showoff qualities of the dancing and music, giving no thought at all to the society or politics or zeitgeist of the 1940s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since most of the swing dancers and musicians of the late 90s were GenXers, I have to doubt they were particularly nostalgic for the actual era itself.  I think they just really got into the fun and style, the energy and exuberant showoff qualities of the dancing and music, giving no thought at all to the society or politics or zeitgeist of the 1940s.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The huge shoulder pads and big hair, while emblematic of the 1980s, were still not ubiquitous into the 1990s.  You can look at beads and tie-dye and think &quot;1967-1973.&quot;  You can look at platform shoes, bell-bottom slacks, polyester and sideburns and think &quot;1975-1979.&quot;  And you can look at skinny ties, spiky hair, suspenders, and shoulder pads and think &quot;1980-1987.&quot;  But what from the 1992-2012 era could you point at and definitively pinpoint to a specific handful of years?  Tattoos and piercings?  Baggy pants?  Goatees?

There was a revival of late-60s fashions in the early 90s, followed by a revival of 70s crap culminating in the broadcast of &lt;i&gt;That 70s Show&lt;/i&gt;, right around the same time as the swing revival.  But outside of certain hip hop elements, I&#039;m having trouble remembering a distinctively 1990s fashion or trend that wasn&#039;t deliberately evocative of another distinct era.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The huge shoulder pads and big hair, while emblematic of the 1980s, were still not ubiquitous into the 1990s.  You can look at beads and tie-dye and think &#8220;1967-1973.&#8221;  You can look at platform shoes, bell-bottom slacks, polyester and sideburns and think &#8220;1975-1979.&#8221;  And you can look at skinny ties, spiky hair, suspenders, and shoulder pads and think &#8220;1980-1987.&#8221;  But what from the 1992-2012 era could you point at and definitively pinpoint to a specific handful of years?  Tattoos and piercings?  Baggy pants?  Goatees?</p>
<p>There was a revival of late-60s fashions in the early 90s, followed by a revival of 70s crap culminating in the broadcast of <i>That 70s Show</i>, right around the same time as the swing revival.  But outside of certain hip hop elements, I&#8217;m having trouble remembering a distinctively 1990s fashion or trend that wasn&#8217;t deliberately evocative of another distinct era.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is that the 1910s to the 1940s &lt;b&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/b&gt; have a lot of sameness.  In the 1910s large swaths of the nation still weren&#039;t electrified.  Airplanes were a novelty, and flivvers had to compete with horses on downtown streets.  By the late 1940s freeways were beginning to be built, and television networks were broadcasting.

Here&#039;s an example.  Check out these &lt;a href=&quot;http://theboweryboys.blogspot.com/2010/12/times-square-history-in-stages.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;views showing the history of Times Square&lt;/a&gt;.  The difference between 1910 and 1935 is enormous.  You almost expect to see Teddy Roosevelt&#039;s Rough Riders kicking up dust down Seventh Avenue in the former, whereas by 1935 you have cars and electric lights everywhere, even an iconic Coca-Cola billboard.  Now compare the 1985 picture to today.  Sure, you can tell it&#039;s dated.  But the differences in the last twenty-seven years are subtler.  And again, there&#039;s a strong chance that if you traveled back in time to 1985 wearing exactly what you have on today, you just might not raise a single eyebrow (unless somebody notices your cell phone or iPod earbuds).

Well, they&#039;d probably do a double-take at your facial hair, if you have any.  Beards and mustaches were few and far between in 1985, outside of biker bars and ZZ Top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is that the 1910s to the 1940s <b>didn&#8217;t</b> have a lot of sameness.  In the 1910s large swaths of the nation still weren&#8217;t electrified.  Airplanes were a novelty, and flivvers had to compete with horses on downtown streets.  By the late 1940s freeways were beginning to be built, and television networks were broadcasting.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an example.  Check out these <a href="http://theboweryboys.blogspot.com/2010/12/times-square-history-in-stages.html" rel="nofollow">views showing the history of Times Square</a>.  The difference between 1910 and 1935 is enormous.  You almost expect to see Teddy Roosevelt&#8217;s Rough Riders kicking up dust down Seventh Avenue in the former, whereas by 1935 you have cars and electric lights everywhere, even an iconic Coca-Cola billboard.  Now compare the 1985 picture to today.  Sure, you can tell it&#8217;s dated.  But the differences in the last twenty-seven years are subtler.  And again, there&#8217;s a strong chance that if you traveled back in time to 1985 wearing exactly what you have on today, you just might not raise a single eyebrow (unless somebody notices your cell phone or iPod earbuds).</p>
<p>Well, they&#8217;d probably do a double-take at your facial hair, if you have any.  Beards and mustaches were few and far between in 1985, outside of biker bars and ZZ Top.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you&#039;re certainly right on that point.  The 90s were no cooler in the States than they were in Blighty.  As always, assuming the 90s began with the Clinton Administration.

Prosperous, sure.  But cool?  Nope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you&#8217;re certainly right on that point.  The 90s were no cooler in the States than they were in Blighty.  As always, assuming the 90s began with the Clinton Administration.</p>
<p>Prosperous, sure.  But cool?  Nope.</p>
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		<title>By: snowmentality</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1353445</link>
		<dc:creator>snowmentality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the photo of Kirsten Dunst wearing a Jumanji t-shirt oddly comforting. Even Kirsten Dunst looked like a dork in the &#039;90s. It makes me feel less embarrassed about how much like a dork I looked. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the photo of Kirsten Dunst wearing a Jumanji t-shirt oddly comforting. Even Kirsten Dunst looked like a dork in the &#8217;90s. It makes me feel less embarrassed about how much like a dork I looked. </p>
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		<title>By: irksome</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1353351</link>
		<dc:creator>irksome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or they &quot;signify&quot; with a rat-tail.</description>
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		<title>By: bingobangoboy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1353277</link>
		<dc:creator>bingobangoboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who still had a mullet in &#039;91 is probably still wearing it today.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Front 242 and Nitzer Ebb... I&#039;m sure my hind brain will be throwing stuff out all day.
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		<title>By: Michael Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see a conspicuous absence of the Cure, Depeche Mode, Ministry, Disposable Heroes of HipHopricy, Consolidated, Ween, Chilipeppers, They Might be Giants, Nine Inch Nails, Animaniacs, 90&#039;s Bat Man cartoon, Freekazoid .... I agree the &quot;gothy&quot; guy kind of at least shows a lot - but we obviously were running in different circles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see a conspicuous absence of the Cure, Depeche Mode, Ministry, Disposable Heroes of HipHopricy, Consolidated, Ween, Chilipeppers, They Might be Giants, Nine Inch Nails, Animaniacs, 90&#8242;s Bat Man cartoon, Freekazoid &#8230;. I agree the &#8220;gothy&#8221; guy kind of at least shows a lot &#8211; but we obviously were running in different circles.</p>
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		<title>By: toyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>toyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, I&#039;m doing my best to push down prices for skinny jeans everywhere. You should thank me.</description>
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		<title>By: thezarray</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1353247</link>
		<dc:creator>thezarray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serious: Was hating on grunge just a Brit thing or was it common in the mainland?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serious: Was hating on grunge just a Brit thing or was it common in the mainland?</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1353243</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> The huge shoulder pads and mass of curly hair would give it away for me.

Maybe when you reached maturity you stopped noticing the subtle differences?

I suspect that&#039;s the case in the above article.  Anyone with 2 eyes and ears can see the 90s differed greatly to the present day - unless you&#039;re looking at everything very broadly, from a single, unchanged perspective; which I suspect is the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> The huge shoulder pads and mass of curly hair would give it away for me.</p>
<p>Maybe when you reached maturity you stopped noticing the subtle differences?</p>
<p>I suspect that&#8217;s the case in the above article.  Anyone with 2 eyes and ears can see the 90s differed greatly to the present day &#8211; unless you&#8217;re looking at everything very broadly, from a single, unchanged perspective; which I suspect is the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1353241</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> He is right; look back in 10-20 years and your opinion will likely be very different.  Oftentimes it&#039;s difficult to pinpoint significant aspects of the decade you&#039;re in, mostly because you&#039;re immersed in it.  But these are all stereotypes anyway; I didn&#039;t see many East London style hipsters back in 2002, something tells me they&#039;ll be a prominent feature.  Actual people in the 80&#039;s just had big shoulder pads, big hair, and big glasses - but that&#039;s not necessarily the stereotype that&#039;s applied - (in fact, ironically, much of the current hipster look is borrowed from the &#039;real&#039; 80&#039;s, while the hyped up 80&#039;s remains the stereotype)  it&#039;s the extremes that go down in history.

I remember thinking that the 90&#039;s lacked anything that made it the 90&#039;s - now looking back: wow.

Your example is actually very interesting, but I&#039;d still hold that thought if I were you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> He is right; look back in 10-20 years and your opinion will likely be very different.  Oftentimes it&#8217;s difficult to pinpoint significant aspects of the decade you&#8217;re in, mostly because you&#8217;re immersed in it.  But these are all stereotypes anyway; I didn&#8217;t see many East London style hipsters back in 2002, something tells me they&#8217;ll be a prominent feature.  Actual people in the 80&#8242;s just had big shoulder pads, big hair, and big glasses &#8211; but that&#8217;s not necessarily the stereotype that&#8217;s applied &#8211; (in fact, ironically, much of the current hipster look is borrowed from the &#8216;real&#8217; 80&#8242;s, while the hyped up 80&#8242;s remains the stereotype)  it&#8217;s the extremes that go down in history.</p>
<p>I remember thinking that the 90&#8242;s lacked anything that made it the 90&#8242;s &#8211; now looking back: wow.</p>
<p>Your example is actually very interesting, but I&#8217;d still hold that thought if I were you.</p>
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		<title>By: grantwentzel</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1353240</link>
		<dc:creator>grantwentzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.  There&#039;s a lot of Vanilla Icey 80&#039;s hangover in the mix.  Only a few pictures remind me of snapshots of my high school years - notably the second &quot;gothy&quot; prom picture, and that was still fairly early in the decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  There&#8217;s a lot of Vanilla Icey 80&#8242;s hangover in the mix.  Only a few pictures remind me of snapshots of my high school years &#8211; notably the second &#8220;gothy&#8221; prom picture, and that was still fairly early in the decade.</p>
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		<title>By: Xander Crews</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1353239</link>
		<dc:creator>Xander Crews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for posting this.  I feel the same way. 

I skimmed the Vanity Fair article, but it&#039;s wrong to think, there is a big difference between &#039;92 and &#039;02.  But &#039;02 and &#039;12, not so much.  Anyone who grew up in the 90&#039;s knows this.    

In a nutshell, this dead zone (most of the 21st Century)  is rooted in corporate conglomeraton.  Since a handful of media companies now control the major media outlets, TV, radio, print, they don&#039;t want flux, they don&#039;t want new ideas that jeopardize to render their investment in Spice Girls or Bieber Boys worthless.  They don&#039;t want a new music trend to explode and force them to sign and promote a bunch of new bands, least of all, one with any social relevance.

For example, back in the 90&#039;s, indie support pushed Nirvana to the top of alternative radio which helped them break out into a legitimate force, and even break onto the pop charts:

http://books.google.com/books?id=BIp60FGwMK4C&amp;lpg=PP1&amp;lr=&amp;rview=1&amp;pg=PT22#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=true

But kids as a function are stupid and are easily influenced by what they see on TV.  Those who attempt to something outside the defined norms are readily chastised, and with the rise of technology and social networks, this chastisement has near infinite and global reach.

If you were to show up to high school today, dressed up as ridiculously as some of the 80&#039;s and/or 90&#039;s, you&#039;re just cell phone click away from being the latest 4chan meme, not just the pariah of your grade.  So is it worth the risk, or do you go with the flow?

The internet was supposed to change everything for the better, but at least culturally, in the US, it feels like we&#039;re slowly suffocating under the weight of corporate avarice and youthful ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting this.  I feel the same way. </p>
<p>I skimmed the Vanity Fair article, but it&#8217;s wrong to think, there is a big difference between &#8217;92 and &#8217;02.  But &#8217;02 and &#8217;12, not so much.  Anyone who grew up in the 90&#8242;s knows this.    </p>
<p>In a nutshell, this dead zone (most of the 21st Century)  is rooted in corporate conglomeraton.  Since a handful of media companies now control the major media outlets, TV, radio, print, they don&#8217;t want flux, they don&#8217;t want new ideas that jeopardize to render their investment in Spice Girls or Bieber Boys worthless.  They don&#8217;t want a new music trend to explode and force them to sign and promote a bunch of new bands, least of all, one with any social relevance.</p>
<p>For example, back in the 90&#8242;s, indie support pushed Nirvana to the top of alternative radio which helped them break out into a legitimate force, and even break onto the pop charts:</p>
<p><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=BIp60FGwMK4C&#038;lpg=PP1&#038;lr=&#038;rview=1&#038;pg=PT22#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=true" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?id=BIp60FGwMK4C&#038;lpg=PP1&#038;lr=&#038;rview=1&#038;pg=PT22#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=true</a></p>
<p>But kids as a function are stupid and are easily influenced by what they see on TV.  Those who attempt to something outside the defined norms are readily chastised, and with the rise of technology and social networks, this chastisement has near infinite and global reach.</p>
<p>If you were to show up to high school today, dressed up as ridiculously as some of the 80&#8242;s and/or 90&#8242;s, you&#8217;re just cell phone click away from being the latest 4chan meme, not just the pariah of your grade.  So is it worth the risk, or do you go with the flow?</p>
<p>The internet was supposed to change everything for the better, but at least culturally, in the US, it feels like we&#8217;re slowly suffocating under the weight of corporate avarice and youthful ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1353238</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> 90&#039;s teen thinks the 90&#039;s were better than the 80&#039;s.

Out of all the decades, at least in the 20th century, the 90&#039;s was easily the lamest.  Not that the 30&#039;s/40&#039;s were full of fun and games, but they knew how to wear that wool.

Maybe the 90&#039;s were cooler in the US - in the UK at least, it was all bad.

I say this as a member of your generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> 90&#8242;s teen thinks the 90&#8242;s were better than the 80&#8242;s.</p>
<p>Out of all the decades, at least in the 20th century, the 90&#8242;s was easily the lamest.  Not that the 30&#8242;s/40&#8242;s were full of fun and games, but they knew how to wear that wool.</p>
<p>Maybe the 90&#8242;s were cooler in the US &#8211; in the UK at least, it was all bad.</p>
<p>I say this as a member of your generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1353237</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I just remember baggy jumpers, block colour shirts and beige jeans.

It was a horrible decade.</description>
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<p>It was a horrible decade.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/the-1990s.html#comment-1353236</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Both the 80s and 90s were different in the US/UK though, in fact most decades have significant differences in fashion, even now.

There tend to be vague themes, but that&#039;s normally as  close as it gets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Both the 80s and 90s were different in the US/UK though, in fact most decades have significant differences in fashion, even now.</p>
<p>There tend to be vague themes, but that&#8217;s normally as  close as it gets.</p>
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