Comments on: Sony's dual-screen Tablet P arrives http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:31:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: penguinchris http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359746 penguinchris Sat, 03 Mar 2012 20:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359746 Yep, it's easily 85% or more Macs in most every university science department. Those that don't use them tend to convert next time they upgrade. I'm not sure why you specify 802.11N though as every MBP since at least as far back as 2009 (when I bought mine) supports it. Yep, it’s easily 85% or more Macs in most every university science department. Those that don’t use them tend to convert next time they upgrade.

I’m not sure why you specify 802.11N though as every MBP since at least as far back as 2009 (when I bought mine) supports it.

]]> By: frozenintime http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359419 frozenintime Fri, 02 Mar 2012 23:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359419 I'll wait for the new iPad next week. I’ll wait for the new iPad next week.

]]> By: Ito Kagehisa http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359355 Ito Kagehisa Fri, 02 Mar 2012 22:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359355 4G.  Pfftt.  My Red Wing Wellingtons are <i>6G</i>! Wake me up when you've got <i>ten Gs</i>, OK? (For those who don't know, these "G" terms are <a href="http://www.npr.org/2011/01/14/132934022/what-does-4g-really-mean-anyway" rel="nofollow">effectively meaningless</a>, especially since the ITU <a href="http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx" rel="nofollow">retroactively changed the absolute meaning</a>) 4G.  Pfftt.  My Red Wing Wellingtons are 6G!

Wake me up when you’ve got ten Gs, OK?

(For those who don’t know, these “G” terms are effectively meaningless, especially since the ITU retroactively changed the absolute meaning)

]]> By: msbpodcast http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359246 msbpodcast Fri, 02 Mar 2012 20:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359246 I'll take that as a rhetorical question. :-) I’ll take that as a rhetorical question. :-)

]]> By: msbpodcast http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359236 msbpodcast Fri, 02 Mar 2012 20:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359236 Sony doesn't have the market presence that Apple has. The ball is in AT&T's court. Sony doesn’t have the market presence that Apple has. The ball is in AT&T’s court.

]]> By: msbpodcast http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359231 msbpodcast Fri, 02 Mar 2012 20:47:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359231 It doesn't even apply to OS X devices, which why the 802.11N MacBook Pro is a  science geek staple. (Think of a photograph of the propeller heads at CERN... How many laptops do you see that <b><i>aren't</i></b> MacBook Pro's. Very very few. Now how many desktop machines do you see? Very very few. [Laptop for UI and <b><i>big UNIX iron</i></b> for the data capture and wrestling the computations to the ground.]) It doesn’t even apply to OS X devices, which why the 802.11N MacBook Pro is a  science geek staple. (Think of a photograph of the propeller heads at CERN… How many laptops do you see that aren’t MacBook Pro’s. Very very few. Now how many desktop machines do you see? Very very few. [Laptop for UI and big UNIX iron for the data capture and wrestling the computations to the ground.])

]]> By: flickerKuu http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359206 flickerKuu Fri, 02 Mar 2012 20:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359206 Having a fast connection means nothing when your apps and OS are garbage. I don't care how fast it is if it's cheap, unwieldy, and hard to use. Having a fast connection means nothing when your apps and OS are garbage. I don’t care how fast it is if it’s cheap, unwieldy, and hard to use.

]]> By: flickerKuu http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359204 flickerKuu Fri, 02 Mar 2012 20:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359204 Seriously, who thought this was a good idea.   /facepalm Just copy Apple exactly- they got it right. Seriously, who thought this was a good idea.   /facepalm

Just copy Apple exactly- they got it right.

]]> By: Halloween Jack http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359191 Halloween Jack Fri, 02 Mar 2012 19:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359191 Wait--<i>another</i> proprietary media format? Has Sony not learned a fucking thing from the last three decades plus?  Wait–another proprietary media format? Has Sony not learned a fucking thing from the last three decades plus? 

]]> By: shadowfirebird http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359181 shadowfirebird Fri, 02 Mar 2012 19:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359181 Oh, niiiice.    What a shame it's not available in the UK. Oh, niiiice.   

What a shame it’s not available in the UK.

]]> By: Palomino http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359141 Palomino Fri, 02 Mar 2012 19:05:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359141 Yes, otherwise known as a Clutch. (Copyright Nintendo Clutch?) Sad thing is, you can put a cellphone and personal gamer inside one of 'em. Yes, otherwise known as a Clutch. (Copyright Nintendo Clutch?)

Sad thing is, you can put a cellphone and personal gamer inside one of ‘em.

]]> By: Palomino http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359134 Palomino Fri, 02 Mar 2012 19:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359134 You are both right, changes have been made, this had been reported on for some time, it's been in a holding pattern.  "Sony first introduced the device in April 2011, under the code name "S2."  http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Sony-Tablet-P-Arrives-on-ATandT-March-4-for-400-205740/ You are both right, changes have been made, this had been reported on for some time, it’s been in a holding pattern. 

“Sony first introduced the device in April 2011, under the code name “S2.” 

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Sony-Tablet-P-Arrives-on-ATandT-March-4-for-400-205740/

]]> By: Palomino http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359126 Palomino Fri, 02 Mar 2012 18:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359126 Is it just me, or is everyone missing that this is NOT a smartphone? Yes, it's being promoted as an Android device, but  it can't  utilize all Android apps. I agree with many who say paying the data plan is expensive, it is if you are paying for cellular service too. They could have gone minimal, using only Google Voice, a microphone and headphones, like most other laptops.  All in all, it's a very expensive cloud  device. The only device out there that successfully married a folding handheld gaming device and  Android, is the Kyocera Echo. I see a lot of bad reviews about the Echo. But when I pull mine out and open it, people walk up to me asking "What is that, where did you get it?"  Is it just me, or is everyone missing that this is NOT a smartphone? Yes, it’s being promoted as an Android device, but  it can’t  utilize all Android apps. I agree with many who say paying the data plan is expensive, it is if you are paying for cellular service too. They could have gone minimal, using only Google Voice, a microphone and headphones, like most other laptops. 

All in all, it’s a very expensive cloud  device.

The only device out there that successfully married a folding handheld gaming device and  Android, is the Kyocera Echo. I see a lot of bad reviews about the Echo. But when I pull mine out and open it, people walk up to me asking “What is that, where did you get it?” 

]]> By: Sigmund_Jung http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359122 Sigmund_Jung Fri, 02 Mar 2012 18:52:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359122 Saw WebOS on a friends tablet and really liked it too. HP didn't retire WebOS. It is open source now.  http://opensource.palm.com/ Saw WebOS on a friends tablet and really liked it too. HP didn’t retire WebOS. It is open source now. 
http://opensource.palm.com/

]]> By: Andrew Singleton http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359117 Andrew Singleton Fri, 02 Mar 2012 18:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359117 Game and Watch was Nintendo yes. Game and Watch was Nintendo yes.

]]> By: wrybread http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359113 wrybread Fri, 02 Mar 2012 18:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359113 I want one!!! I want one!!!

]]> By: Palomino http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359105 Palomino Fri, 02 Mar 2012 18:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359105 Kyocera Echo, I LOVE mine!  Kyocera Echo, I LOVE mine! 

]]> By: mypalmike http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359055 mypalmike Fri, 02 Mar 2012 18:09:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359055 Yeah, reminds me a bit of this http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2011/09/TheOffice_ThePyramid_ss.jpg Yeah, reminds me a bit of this http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2011/09/TheOffice_ThePyramid_ss.jpg

]]> By: Baldhead http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359034 Baldhead Fri, 02 Mar 2012 17:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359034 Toshiba made something similar the other year... and it kinda sucked. typing was a pain, the screens are too small to use for most things you want an actual computar for but the whole thing isn't compact like a smartphone is... Toshiba made something similar the other year… and it kinda sucked. typing was a pain, the screens are too small to use for most things you want an actual computar for but the whole thing isn’t compact like a smartphone is…

]]> By: wrybread http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359001 wrybread Fri, 02 Mar 2012 17:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359001 I'd love to try it. Until recently I thought the iPad was untouchable, but then I picked up an HP Touchpad since they're being unloaded so cheaply. I figured I'd ditch WebOS and put Android on right away, but I was really surprised to like WebOS much better than iOS. Much better multitasking, much nicer interface in general. Who'd a thunk? A total shame that HP retired WebOS, but that's another story. And the hardware was a bit behind the thin and light iPad. But the experience definitely left me much more open minded to alternative tablet designs. I’d love to try it. Until recently I thought the iPad was untouchable, but then I picked up an HP Touchpad since they’re being unloaded so cheaply. I figured I’d ditch WebOS and put Android on right away, but I was really surprised to like WebOS much better than iOS. Much better multitasking, much nicer interface in general. Who’d a thunk?

A total shame that HP retired WebOS, but that’s another story. And the hardware was a bit behind the thin and light iPad. But the experience definitely left me much more open minded to alternative tablet designs.

]]> By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1359000 Brainspore Fri, 02 Mar 2012 17:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1359000 Two screens too small for enjoying video AND a form-factor too big to comfortably fit in a pocket? Score! Two screens too small for enjoying video AND a form-factor too big to comfortably fit in a pocket? Score!

]]> By: cellocgw http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1358992 cellocgw Fri, 02 Mar 2012 17:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1358992 I'll stick with my Onda vi40, thanks all the same. I’ll stick with my Onda vi40, thanks all the same.

]]> By: wrybread http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1358988 wrybread Fri, 02 Mar 2012 17:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1358988 Agreed. Why no $25/2 gig plan, as with iPads? And to even have the option of a contract seems antiquated now. I wonder what the back story is. Does AT&T have the power to dictate terms to Sony? Agreed. Why no $25/2 gig plan, as with iPads? And to even have the option of a contract seems antiquated now. I wonder what the back story is. Does AT&T have the power to dictate terms to Sony?

]]> By: waetherman http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1358987 waetherman Fri, 02 Mar 2012 17:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1358987 Not sure exactly why a $550 tablet is a "difficult sell" - assuming that price still has a 4G chip in it, it's $100 less than a comparable iPad. Even without a 4G chip it'd be about the same price with a more innovative, practical (for some) design. The design is almost exactly that of the Microsoft Courier that the Internets went gaga over a couple years ago, and I for one would love to see that concept come to reality, though perhaps with a slightly different hardware design. Including the price of a wireless contract always makes these devices seem absurdly priced, but that's not Sony's problem, it's AT&T/Verizon/etc. Not sure exactly why a $550 tablet is a “difficult sell” – assuming that price still has a 4G chip in it, it’s $100 less than a comparable iPad. Even without a 4G chip it’d be about the same price with a more innovative, practical (for some) design. The design is almost exactly that of the Microsoft Courier that the Internets went gaga over a couple years ago, and I for one would love to see that concept come to reality, though perhaps with a slightly different hardware design.

Including the price of a wireless contract always makes these devices seem absurdly priced, but that’s not Sony’s problem, it’s AT&T/Verizon/etc.

]]> By: PapayaSF http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1358986 PapayaSF Fri, 02 Mar 2012 17:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1358986 How do these manufacturers think they are going to compete with iPads when they keep producing tablets that cost about the the same, are inferior in so many ways, and run old versions of Android? Also, this is another example of how the old truism about Apple products being so expensive does not seem to apply to iOS devices.  How do these manufacturers think they are going to compete with iPads when they keep producing tablets that cost about the the same, are inferior in so many ways, and run old versions of Android?

Also, this is another example of how the old truism about Apple products being so expensive does not seem to apply to iOS devices. 

]]> By: shadowfirebird http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1358972 shadowfirebird Fri, 02 Mar 2012 16:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1358972 I wish my smartphone folded like this.   I keep butt-dialing the US (from the UK!) I wish my smartphone folded like this.   I keep butt-dialing the US (from the UK!)

]]> By: Richard Dagenais http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1358957 Richard Dagenais Fri, 02 Mar 2012 16:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1358957 Those are some seriously pricey data plans. And I'm writing from Canada! Those are some seriously pricey data plans. And I’m writing from Canada!

]]> By: Rob Beschizza http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1358954 Rob Beschizza Fri, 02 Mar 2012 16:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1358954 It looks like a big hardcase purse when it's closed. Reminds me of the Vaio P's marketing, which was aimed mostly at women. It looks like a big hardcase purse when it’s closed. Reminds me of the Vaio P’s marketing, which was aimed mostly at women.

]]> By: sciwizam http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1358953 sciwizam Fri, 02 Mar 2012 16:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1358953  It's Tegra2.  It’s Tegra2.

]]> By: Rob Beschizza http://boingboing.net/2012/03/02/sony-tablet-p-coming-next-mont.html#comment-1358950 Rob Beschizza Fri, 02 Mar 2012 16:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=146734#comment-1358950 Was Nintendo first with the dual screen clamshell format? Game and Watch was Nintendo, I think.  Was Nintendo first with the dual screen clamshell format? Game and Watch was Nintendo, I think. 

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