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		<title>By: The Life Of Bryan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/09/seduced-by-food-obesity-and-t.html#comment-1368340</link>
		<dc:creator>The Life Of Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few years ago we found an awesome set of dishes at a resale shop. They’re oversized, so the dinner plates are HUGE and the saucers are about 7&quot; or so. Any meal we served looked puny on the dinner plates, but even smaller meals filled the smaller ones nicely.

And the rest, as they say, is portion control history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years ago we found an awesome set of dishes at a resale shop. They’re oversized, so the dinner plates are HUGE and the saucers are about 7&#8243; or so. Any meal we served looked puny on the dinner plates, but even smaller meals filled the smaller ones nicely.</p>
<p>And the rest, as they say, is portion control history.</p>
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		<title>By: ChickieD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChickieD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Right. I remember precisely the moment it went crazy in my life. I had just gotten out of college in 1992 and was living in a &quot;group&quot; home in DC - several people about the same age renting rooms from the owner. One roommate was a Columbian woman whose favorite meal was rice with fried eggs on top. She would eat this out of a serving dish. I was just floored that anyone would eat so much food. The owner of the house also had these huge bowls he would use for his cereal and such. They were soup bowls but maybe four times the size of &quot;normal&quot; bowls at that time. And then suddenly it seemed like everyone had adopted these giant bowls and plates and they became the norm. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Right. I remember precisely the moment it went crazy in my life. I had just gotten out of college in 1992 and was living in a &#8220;group&#8221; home in DC &#8211; several people about the same age renting rooms from the owner. One roommate was a Columbian woman whose favorite meal was rice with fried eggs on top. She would eat this out of a serving dish. I was just floored that anyone would eat so much food. The owner of the house also had these huge bowls he would use for his cereal and such. They were soup bowls but maybe four times the size of &#8220;normal&#8221; bowls at that time. And then suddenly it seemed like everyone had adopted these giant bowls and plates and they became the norm. </p>
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		<title>By: ChickieD</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/09/seduced-by-food-obesity-and-t.html#comment-1368249</link>
		<dc:creator>ChickieD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to avoid cooking lunches by buying a stack of Lean Cuisines Sunday night or Monday morning. Because my husband is frequently not home and I am cooking for just my kid and me, I often made easy things like Hamburger Helper or grilled cheese sandwiches and canned soup. For breakfast I usually made shakes with whey protein. Most of this was just because it was easier and required very little planning.

Recently, I decided to see if I can break this habit and start eating real food. For one thing, I am using whole milk now which I had really never eaten. It turns out a shake made with whole chocolate milk and a banana and some ice is just as rich as one made with whey protein and more satisfying. It takes just the same amount of time to make and is the same amount of calories - just more fat and less protein.

I replaced the frozen dinner lunches with sandwiches or leftovers - maybe its a few minutes in the morning more but not much. And it&#039;s just as easy to pick up bread, meat, lettuce, and cheese as a stack of frozen dinners.

I like to cook so it&#039;s more about finding the time on the weekend to do a proper grocery shopping to make nice meals. I try to do a crock pot dinner once a week and my kid loves coming home to the smell of a meal cooking and hasn&#039;t asked for something processed instead. Usually there&#039;s leftovers we can reheat another night, so I only have to plan about three meals a week.

I decided not to be totally crazy about it and if I do occasionally have a frozen pizza, I think overall if I have increased the real food in my diet and lowered the amount of processed foods, I&#039;ve won. 

Anyway, the point is, I think that it doesn&#039;t take that much extra planning if you stick with simple meals. Every meal doesn&#039;t have to be a gourmet masterpiece. I also find that not regulating the fat content so strictly opens up a lot of possibilities for home cooking I&#039;d previously cut out, and I am more satisfied and less driven to eat sweets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to avoid cooking lunches by buying a stack of Lean Cuisines Sunday night or Monday morning. Because my husband is frequently not home and I am cooking for just my kid and me, I often made easy things like Hamburger Helper or grilled cheese sandwiches and canned soup. For breakfast I usually made shakes with whey protein. Most of this was just because it was easier and required very little planning.</p>
<p>Recently, I decided to see if I can break this habit and start eating real food. For one thing, I am using whole milk now which I had really never eaten. It turns out a shake made with whole chocolate milk and a banana and some ice is just as rich as one made with whey protein and more satisfying. It takes just the same amount of time to make and is the same amount of calories &#8211; just more fat and less protein.</p>
<p>I replaced the frozen dinner lunches with sandwiches or leftovers &#8211; maybe its a few minutes in the morning more but not much. And it&#8217;s just as easy to pick up bread, meat, lettuce, and cheese as a stack of frozen dinners.</p>
<p>I like to cook so it&#8217;s more about finding the time on the weekend to do a proper grocery shopping to make nice meals. I try to do a crock pot dinner once a week and my kid loves coming home to the smell of a meal cooking and hasn&#8217;t asked for something processed instead. Usually there&#8217;s leftovers we can reheat another night, so I only have to plan about three meals a week.</p>
<p>I decided not to be totally crazy about it and if I do occasionally have a frozen pizza, I think overall if I have increased the real food in my diet and lowered the amount of processed foods, I&#8217;ve won. </p>
<p>Anyway, the point is, I think that it doesn&#8217;t take that much extra planning if you stick with simple meals. Every meal doesn&#8217;t have to be a gourmet masterpiece. I also find that not regulating the fat content so strictly opens up a lot of possibilities for home cooking I&#8217;d previously cut out, and I am more satisfied and less driven to eat sweets.</p>
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		<title>By: anand srivastava</title>
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		<dc:creator>anand srivastava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail :-).

And when you know only insulin everything must be because of bad insulin regulation.

Please. There are so many hormones in the body why focus on one only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail :-).</p>
<p>And when you know only insulin everything must be because of bad insulin regulation.</p>
<p>Please. There are so many hormones in the body why focus on one only.</p>
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		<title>By: anand srivastava</title>
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		<dc:creator>anand srivastava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saying chemotherapy can help people lose weight is like saying Typhoid can help people lose weight. Lots of people undergo detox, which are actually another way of poisoning yourself to lose weight or show symptoms that you excreting toxins.


One neighbor is undergoing detox, she used to have arthritic pains. Now she is not feeling those pains. But is it because her whole body is paining or is it really because the detox cured it.
This is in the land of the detox err India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying chemotherapy can help people lose weight is like saying Typhoid can help people lose weight. Lots of people undergo detox, which are actually another way of poisoning yourself to lose weight or show symptoms that you excreting toxins.</p>
<p>One neighbor is undergoing detox, she used to have arthritic pains. Now she is not feeling those pains. But is it because her whole body is paining or is it really because the detox cured it.<br />
This is in the land of the detox err India.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Guyenet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephan Guyenet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi dallas,

I&#039;m glad you brought this up because this is something that people frequently misunderstand about this line of research.  The article does not imply that obese people got that way by being lazier than lean people.  If you took 100 people and raised them under conditions that favor obesity-- a sedentary lifestyle and poor diet-- some would become obese and some would not.  Each person has a different inborn susceptibility to developing obesity in the context of a fattening environment.  Therefore, being obese in and of itself does not imply that a person is lazier than average, or eats worse than average, although that could still be true in some instances.  Like any other physical state, obesity is a state that reflects the interaction between genes and environment.  

I agree that leanness is not necessarily the same as health.  However, elevated fat mass is the dominant risk factor for type II diabetes, and contributes to other health risks as well.  Also, regardless of the health risks, some people would simply like to lose body fat, or just try to understand why our generation carries more fat than those before it.  Those people should have access to good quality information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi dallas,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you brought this up because this is something that people frequently misunderstand about this line of research.  The article does not imply that obese people got that way by being lazier than lean people.  If you took 100 people and raised them under conditions that favor obesity&#8211; a sedentary lifestyle and poor diet&#8211; some would become obese and some would not.  Each person has a different inborn susceptibility to developing obesity in the context of a fattening environment.  Therefore, being obese in and of itself does not imply that a person is lazier than average, or eats worse than average, although that could still be true in some instances.  Like any other physical state, obesity is a state that reflects the interaction between genes and environment.  </p>
<p>I agree that leanness is not necessarily the same as health.  However, elevated fat mass is the dominant risk factor for type II diabetes, and contributes to other health risks as well.  Also, regardless of the health risks, some people would simply like to lose body fat, or just try to understand why our generation carries more fat than those before it.  Those people should have access to good quality information.</p>
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		<title>By: Velocirapt42</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/09/seduced-by-food-obesity-and-t.html#comment-1367798</link>
		<dc:creator>Velocirapt42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a reason why the poor tend towards obesity more than the middle-class or wealthy. Crap is cheaper than healthy stuff. Yes, apples may be on sale, but if you&#039;ve got kids to feed, a box of white flour pasta goes a lot further to fill them up. If you&#039;re working two jobs, and money&#039;s tight, just getting dinner on the table may be a triumph, no matter what it is. Kids who grow up with &quot;food insecurity&quot; (they&#039;re usually fed enough, but at times not, and they&#039;re always aware that they may lose their food supply) are much more likely to be obese than kids who don&#039;t, because they never learn to regulate their appetites- if there&#039;s food, you eat it, and you clean your plate whether you&#039;re full or not, because there&#039;s a chance there might not be much food tomorrow. If you&#039;re hungry and food is scarce, you might not be able to satisfy yourself. Not to mention that you learn to eat, and like, and become attached to the cheap stuff, because it&#039;s what you&#039;re used to. I work in a teen clinic that has an obesity program, and we see it over and over. Many of these kids have become totally disconnected from hunger and fullness signals, because they weren&#039;t in an atmosphere where those signals were valued or even useful. So until food insecurity isn&#039;t an issue, poor kids are more likely to grow up with unhealthy eating practices and have a good chance of being an obese adults. 

No, not everyone who doesn&#039;t eat healthy food is poor, and not every poor family lives on processed foods- but overall, it&#039;s where the trend is. 

I&#039;d love it if we subsidized produce instead of King Corn, which sweetens and bulks up all the processed crap available. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a reason why the poor tend towards obesity more than the middle-class or wealthy. Crap is cheaper than healthy stuff. Yes, apples may be on sale, but if you&#8217;ve got kids to feed, a box of white flour pasta goes a lot further to fill them up. If you&#8217;re working two jobs, and money&#8217;s tight, just getting dinner on the table may be a triumph, no matter what it is. Kids who grow up with &#8220;food insecurity&#8221; (they&#8217;re usually fed enough, but at times not, and they&#8217;re always aware that they may lose their food supply) are much more likely to be obese than kids who don&#8217;t, because they never learn to regulate their appetites- if there&#8217;s food, you eat it, and you clean your plate whether you&#8217;re full or not, because there&#8217;s a chance there might not be much food tomorrow. If you&#8217;re hungry and food is scarce, you might not be able to satisfy yourself. Not to mention that you learn to eat, and like, and become attached to the cheap stuff, because it&#8217;s what you&#8217;re used to. I work in a teen clinic that has an obesity program, and we see it over and over. Many of these kids have become totally disconnected from hunger and fullness signals, because they weren&#8217;t in an atmosphere where those signals were valued or even useful. So until food insecurity isn&#8217;t an issue, poor kids are more likely to grow up with unhealthy eating practices and have a good chance of being an obese adults. </p>
<p>No, not everyone who doesn&#8217;t eat healthy food is poor, and not every poor family lives on processed foods- but overall, it&#8217;s where the trend is. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love it if we subsidized produce instead of King Corn, which sweetens and bulks up all the processed crap available. </p>
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		<title>By: Axcel Añonuevo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Axcel Añonuevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 05:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly agree to everything that has been stated in this article. I was once fat, but i got my motivation to lose weight and become fit and slim. I do believe that &quot;everything is psychological&quot;, and &quot;that all is in the state of mind.&quot; I&#039;ve considered many factors before i realized that it&#039;s about time to change, to live a healthier life. One thing i want to share, &quot;always think what could&#039;ve been if you&#039;re sexy, if you&#039;re buff, if you&#039;re much healthier.&quot; You will love yourself more than you ever did in your entire life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly agree to everything that has been stated in this article. I was once fat, but i got my motivation to lose weight and become fit and slim. I do believe that &#8220;everything is psychological&#8221;, and &#8220;that all is in the state of mind.&#8221; I&#8217;ve considered many factors before i realized that it&#8217;s about time to change, to live a healthier life. One thing i want to share, &#8220;always think what could&#8217;ve been if you&#8217;re sexy, if you&#8217;re buff, if you&#8217;re much healthier.&#8221; You will love yourself more than you ever did in your entire life.</p>
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		<title>By: Alma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would imagine that there could never be a one size fits all approach because what one person finds rewarding, another person does not. Most people don&#039;t care much for plain unseasoned white rice but I find it VERY rewarding. Potatoes on the other hand are the least rewarding food for me. PS - the GI index of foods also varies wildly from one person to the next. Diabetics and prediabetic people have a exaggerated response to some foods not in line with their GI as tested on healthy individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would imagine that there could never be a one size fits all approach because what one person finds rewarding, another person does not. Most people don&#8217;t care much for plain unseasoned white rice but I find it VERY rewarding. Potatoes on the other hand are the least rewarding food for me. PS &#8211; the GI index of foods also varies wildly from one person to the next. Diabetics and prediabetic people have a exaggerated response to some foods not in line with their GI as tested on healthy individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: MrEricSir</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrEricSir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serious question: is there something like the glycemic index for how rewarding various foods are for our brains?

Since there&#039;s a chemical basis for all this, it seems like it could be determined experimentally (just like GCI) and used as a basis for dieting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serious question: is there something like the glycemic index for how rewarding various foods are for our brains?</p>
<p>Since there&#8217;s a chemical basis for all this, it seems like it could be determined experimentally (just like GCI) and used as a basis for dieting.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t imagine what aspect of anyone&#039;s lifestyle could be a higher priority than eating well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t imagine what aspect of anyone&#8217;s lifestyle could be a higher priority than eating well.</p>
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		<title>By: bishophicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>bishophicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very late to this party, unfortunately.  I&#039;ve had success with a simplified version of The Hacker Diet - basically tracking weight daily and using a moving average to smooth out the daily swings.  Knowing I have an appointment with the scale and that the results will be recorded for posterity motivates good behavior.  I&#039;m also a numbers guy, so I love all the things you can do with the data once a decent amount has been accumulated. 

I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s related to the &quot;set point&quot; idea, but I have noticed weight levels that are hard to get through.  The 182 area for me was a huge struggle when I lost weight six years ago, and it acted as a ceiling when the weight started to creep back on last year.

I think the big question here is: Why did the slope of the obesity line increase dramatically starting in 1978 or so?  What changed?  Why did we as a nation start getting fatter at a much faster rate?  If you extrapolate the obesity rate using the slop it was increasing from 1960-1978 only 18% would be obese today - almost half the rate of today. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very late to this party, unfortunately.  I&#8217;ve had success with a simplified version of The Hacker Diet &#8211; basically tracking weight daily and using a moving average to smooth out the daily swings.  Knowing I have an appointment with the scale and that the results will be recorded for posterity motivates good behavior.  I&#8217;m also a numbers guy, so I love all the things you can do with the data once a decent amount has been accumulated. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s related to the &#8220;set point&#8221; idea, but I have noticed weight levels that are hard to get through.  The 182 area for me was a huge struggle when I lost weight six years ago, and it acted as a ceiling when the weight started to creep back on last year.</p>
<p>I think the big question here is: Why did the slope of the obesity line increase dramatically starting in 1978 or so?  What changed?  Why did we as a nation start getting fatter at a much faster rate?  If you extrapolate the obesity rate using the slop it was increasing from 1960-1978 only 18% would be obese today &#8211; almost half the rate of today. </p>
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		<title>By: GrrrlRomeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrrrlRomeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any solution that says we all need to cook at home more is a non-solution. A lot of us don&#039;t have lifestyles that allow for that. A better solution would be to produce healthier prepared foods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any solution that says we all need to cook at home more is a non-solution. A lot of us don&#8217;t have lifestyles that allow for that. A better solution would be to produce healthier prepared foods.</p>
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		<title>By: Alma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He also says in the article that simple healthy cooking will stop the obesity epidemic in its tracks but it won&#039;t be enough to return obese people to a lean state. If you read Stephan&#039;s blog you will be well aware that he doesn&#039;t claim to have all the answers about how to reverse obesity. Nobody does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He also says in the article that simple healthy cooking will stop the obesity epidemic in its tracks but it won&#8217;t be enough to return obese people to a lean state. If you read Stephan&#8217;s blog you will be well aware that he doesn&#8217;t claim to have all the answers about how to reverse obesity. Nobody does.</p>
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		<title>By: MetalPorkchop</title>
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		<dc:creator>MetalPorkchop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Yes!  Anything is more satisfying with butter than veg oils, also more healthy.  Most veg oils shouldn&#039;t even be over heated, because high temperatures damage them and they become trans fats.  A lot of veg oils have low smoke points, the point when once they over heat, they discolour and smoke, and taste awful.  Veg oils are best used at room temperature for drizzling over salads and stuff.  Coconut oil is ok for cooking and frying, but the flavour, though mild, doesn&#039;t go with everything.  Butter only improves and compliments  flavours, and is good for you, as is lard.  Diets are useless, just eat real food, stuff that was around for your grandparents or great grandparents,  and depending on where you grew up, maybe even for you when you were growing up.  I was born in the 70s in the country in Europe, and I didn&#039;t know fast food until moving to Canada in the late 80s.  I remember my first trip to McD&#039;s, that was in grade 6, and I haven&#039;t been back.  I don&#039;t get the appeal.  Stay away from processed foods, or overly processed, since that term can be argued.  I can&#039;t wait for the &quot;fat hate&quot; to go away already.  It&#039;s one of the dumbest trends ever.  When I see people eating margarine, I cringe; you may as well eat the tub it comes in.  A lot of high fat foods contain lipase, an enzyme which actually breaks down fat as it&#039;s consumed, for example avocados.  People need to learn the difference between good fats and bad fats, and don&#039;t go by trends, this includes the media.  Do your own research.  Eating full fat and whole foods is the way to stay healthy.  By eating full fats, you stay full longer and you don&#039;t end up consuming as much, because you fill up quicker.  Your brain needs fat, as does the rest of your body.  By choosing low fat/ diet/ no sugar items, you&#039;re essentially eating added chemicals.  Fat is what holds food together, if they remove that to make something low fat or 0% fat, that fat has to be replaced with something else.  Something which has no nutritional value.  Diet soda is just as bad as regular soda, because sweeteners are up to 800 x as sweet as sugar, so they make your body crave even more sweet things.  Read labels, if the ingredient list is too long or there are things on there that you don&#039;t comprehend, don&#039;t buy it.  When buying rye bread at a supermarket, read the ingredients, wheat flour is often on top of the list, and caramel colour is used to make the bread look healthier and denser.  Don&#039;t call it rye, if it contains wheat flour.  I read an article last year, sorry don&#039;t have the source now, which said that people in France consume 4x as much butter as Americans, it was something like under 5 pounds of butter/ year / American, comapred to just under 20 pounds of butter per year per French person.  Looking at heart disease statistics, most people would assume the French were in trouble.  Not so.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2011/feb/15/consider-lard?INTCMP=SRCH

Slowly, I think people are getting it, or maybe there&#039;s always been a small group of real food eaters, which has been passed on.  This group is much bigger in Europe.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Yes!  Anything is more satisfying with butter than veg oils, also more healthy.  Most veg oils shouldn&#8217;t even be over heated, because high temperatures damage them and they become trans fats.  A lot of veg oils have low smoke points, the point when once they over heat, they discolour and smoke, and taste awful.  Veg oils are best used at room temperature for drizzling over salads and stuff.  Coconut oil is ok for cooking and frying, but the flavour, though mild, doesn&#8217;t go with everything.  Butter only improves and compliments  flavours, and is good for you, as is lard.  Diets are useless, just eat real food, stuff that was around for your grandparents or great grandparents,  and depending on where you grew up, maybe even for you when you were growing up.  I was born in the 70s in the country in Europe, and I didn&#8217;t know fast food until moving to Canada in the late 80s.  I remember my first trip to McD&#8217;s, that was in grade 6, and I haven&#8217;t been back.  I don&#8217;t get the appeal.  Stay away from processed foods, or overly processed, since that term can be argued.  I can&#8217;t wait for the &#8220;fat hate&#8221; to go away already.  It&#8217;s one of the dumbest trends ever.  When I see people eating margarine, I cringe; you may as well eat the tub it comes in.  A lot of high fat foods contain lipase, an enzyme which actually breaks down fat as it&#8217;s consumed, for example avocados.  People need to learn the difference between good fats and bad fats, and don&#8217;t go by trends, this includes the media.  Do your own research.  Eating full fat and whole foods is the way to stay healthy.  By eating full fats, you stay full longer and you don&#8217;t end up consuming as much, because you fill up quicker.  Your brain needs fat, as does the rest of your body.  By choosing low fat/ diet/ no sugar items, you&#8217;re essentially eating added chemicals.  Fat is what holds food together, if they remove that to make something low fat or 0% fat, that fat has to be replaced with something else.  Something which has no nutritional value.  Diet soda is just as bad as regular soda, because sweeteners are up to 800 x as sweet as sugar, so they make your body crave even more sweet things.  Read labels, if the ingredient list is too long or there are things on there that you don&#8217;t comprehend, don&#8217;t buy it.  When buying rye bread at a supermarket, read the ingredients, wheat flour is often on top of the list, and caramel colour is used to make the bread look healthier and denser.  Don&#8217;t call it rye, if it contains wheat flour.  I read an article last year, sorry don&#8217;t have the source now, which said that people in France consume 4x as much butter as Americans, it was something like under 5 pounds of butter/ year / American, comapred to just under 20 pounds of butter per year per French person.  Looking at heart disease statistics, most people would assume the French were in trouble.  Not so.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2011/feb/15/consider-lard?INTCMP=SRCH" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2011/feb/15/consider-lard?INTCMP=SRCH</a></p>
<p>Slowly, I think people are getting it, or maybe there&#8217;s always been a small group of real food eaters, which has been passed on.  This group is much bigger in Europe.  </p>
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		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Can I just say, I&#039;m amazed at all the people who decided to argue with you based on this comment, because none of them seem to have understood what you were saying!</description>
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		<title>By: benenglish</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/09/seduced-by-food-obesity-and-t.html#comment-1366805</link>
		<dc:creator>benenglish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid you&#039;ve badly misunderstood my post.
&lt;blockquote&gt;While you may be right that the article doesn&#039;t necessarily apply to your particular case I think it&#039;s rather silly to dismiss the article in general because it doesn&#039;t explicitly discuss outlier cases like your own.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I don&#039;t think I&#039;m an outlier and I&#039;m certainly not dismissing the article.  I agree with just about everything in it. 

I was specifically and solely criticizing that it ended by pointing to a need for more self-discipline.

I&#039;ll go further.  This passage
&lt;blockquote&gt;Together, reward and hedonic circuitry in the brain determine in large part how often you seek food, what foods you select, and how much you eat at a sitting.

Reward and hedonic systems, if stimulated in the right way...can increase food intake and body fatness. ...
  
...the connection goes both ways.  Reward and hedonic systems also influence energy homeostasis systems, such that excessively rewarding/palatable food can increase food intake and the level of body fat that’s ‘defended’ by the brain. ...

Addiction is what happens when the reward system is over-stimulated by drugs, sex, food or other high-reward stimuli.  In susceptible people ... foods are quite literally addictive, ...&lt;/blockquote&gt;is beyond perfect in how it describes how I got to where I am.

If TMI irritates you, skip the next paragraph.

I was a sickly child.  I had pneumonia multiple times and my parents were resigned to the notion that I was unlikely to survive to see my 5th birthday.  However, I did survive.  I was so skinny you could touch my hip bones with the tip of a finger and count my ribs from across the room.  But every time I took a mouthful of food and managed to keep it down, I took a step toward survival.  Every pound I gained was a signal I was going to live.  Every ounce I added prompted my parents to joy; it meant their son was going to live.  For good reasons and with the best of intentions, I was celebrated for finally getting to where I could shop in the &quot;husky&quot; section of Sears.  My parents loved seeing me get &quot;husky&quot; because it meant I wasn&#039;t dead; even a brain-dead pre-pubescent jerk like me could pick up on that.

I understand very well that the reward and hedonic systems can be over-stimulated.  (I think the article stumbles when it fails to make clear that such stimulation can be, as in my case, emotional in nature.  Not a biggie.)  The author did a fine job of explaining the mechanisms that produced in me, quite early in life, a state of energy homeostasis systems that cause my body to defend high levels of fat.  It wasn&#039;t long until I crossed over into total addiction.

The ONLY objection I had to the article was the notion that being disciplined enough to do all your cooking at home would probably be enough to enable at least some (the wording seemed to me to imply most) fat people to regain a healthy body weight.

I think that&#039;s wishful thinking.  I think people who are as far gone as I&#039;ve been or who are as far gone as I am now and have been for as long as me need something more.  We need a way to disrupt the hedonic/reward cycle, to throw a monkey wrench into the addiction mechanism.  (The article would have been insanely great if it had discussed some of the things we can do along those lines.)  I believe I&#039;ve stumbled, purely by chance, across a drug that does that, at least for now.  I&#039;m doing my best to capitalize on the opportunity and have initially experienced excellent success without the need for any more self-discipline than I had before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid you&#8217;ve badly misunderstood my post.</p>
<blockquote><p>While you may be right that the article doesn&#8217;t necessarily apply to your particular case I think it&#8217;s rather silly to dismiss the article in general because it doesn&#8217;t explicitly discuss outlier cases like your own.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m an outlier and I&#8217;m certainly not dismissing the article.  I agree with just about everything in it. </p>
<p>I was specifically and solely criticizing that it ended by pointing to a need for more self-discipline.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go further.  This passage</p>
<blockquote><p>Together, reward and hedonic circuitry in the brain determine in large part how often you seek food, what foods you select, and how much you eat at a sitting.</p>
<p>Reward and hedonic systems, if stimulated in the right way&#8230;can increase food intake and body fatness. &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;the connection goes both ways.  Reward and hedonic systems also influence energy homeostasis systems, such that excessively rewarding/palatable food can increase food intake and the level of body fat that’s ‘defended’ by the brain. &#8230;</p>
<p>Addiction is what happens when the reward system is over-stimulated by drugs, sex, food or other high-reward stimuli.  In susceptible people &#8230; foods are quite literally addictive, &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>is beyond perfect in how it describes how I got to where I am.</p>
<p>If TMI irritates you, skip the next paragraph.</p>
<p>I was a sickly child.  I had pneumonia multiple times and my parents were resigned to the notion that I was unlikely to survive to see my 5th birthday.  However, I did survive.  I was so skinny you could touch my hip bones with the tip of a finger and count my ribs from across the room.  But every time I took a mouthful of food and managed to keep it down, I took a step toward survival.  Every pound I gained was a signal I was going to live.  Every ounce I added prompted my parents to joy; it meant their son was going to live.  For good reasons and with the best of intentions, I was celebrated for finally getting to where I could shop in the &#8220;husky&#8221; section of Sears.  My parents loved seeing me get &#8220;husky&#8221; because it meant I wasn&#8217;t dead; even a brain-dead pre-pubescent jerk like me could pick up on that.</p>
<p>I understand very well that the reward and hedonic systems can be over-stimulated.  (I think the article stumbles when it fails to make clear that such stimulation can be, as in my case, emotional in nature.  Not a biggie.)  The author did a fine job of explaining the mechanisms that produced in me, quite early in life, a state of energy homeostasis systems that cause my body to defend high levels of fat.  It wasn&#8217;t long until I crossed over into total addiction.</p>
<p>The ONLY objection I had to the article was the notion that being disciplined enough to do all your cooking at home would probably be enough to enable at least some (the wording seemed to me to imply most) fat people to regain a healthy body weight.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s wishful thinking.  I think people who are as far gone as I&#8217;ve been or who are as far gone as I am now and have been for as long as me need something more.  We need a way to disrupt the hedonic/reward cycle, to throw a monkey wrench into the addiction mechanism.  (The article would have been insanely great if it had discussed some of the things we can do along those lines.)  I believe I&#8217;ve stumbled, purely by chance, across a drug that does that, at least for now.  I&#8217;m doing my best to capitalize on the opportunity and have initially experienced excellent success without the need for any more self-discipline than I had before.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, there isn&#039;t research showing that increased exercise alone contributes to weight loss. It has little or no effect over the long term. That&#039;s only counter-intuitive if you don&#039;t realize that exercising more tends to increase hunger, particularly in those whose bodies tend to store rather than release the energy taken in through food. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, there isn&#8217;t research showing that increased exercise alone contributes to weight loss. It has little or no effect over the long term. That&#8217;s only counter-intuitive if you don&#8217;t realize that exercising more tends to increase hunger, particularly in those whose bodies tend to store rather than release the energy taken in through food. </p>
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		<title>By: o4cryingoutloud</title>
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		<dc:creator>o4cryingoutloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 23:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not gonna type as much as I could (you&#039;re welcome) the biggest point about the sedentary-over-worked America is that folks are too exhausted to cook healthy at home. I, myself, can bear witness to the difference: Jobless = good home cooked meals vs. Employed in America = stressed, exhausted, and running through the drive-through on the way home. There is no way I can cook and clean up after working 10+ hours. Plus,  food = &quot;comfort&quot; for too many people now-a-days. Thank god I got past that loooong ago. Obesity is just another example of the American system needing a big over-haul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not gonna type as much as I could (you&#8217;re welcome) the biggest point about the sedentary-over-worked America is that folks are too exhausted to cook healthy at home. I, myself, can bear witness to the difference: Jobless = good home cooked meals vs. Employed in America = stressed, exhausted, and running through the drive-through on the way home. There is no way I can cook and clean up after working 10+ hours. Plus,  food = &#8220;comfort&#8221; for too many people now-a-days. Thank god I got past that loooong ago. Obesity is just another example of the American system needing a big over-haul.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;ve dropped 20% of my weight in the past eight months&lt;/blockquote&gt;Pro-tip: When you get that crushing chest pain and you think you&#039;re about to die, it&#039;s gallstones.  Nobody mentions that side effect of rapid weight loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ve dropped 20% of my weight in the past eight months</p></blockquote>
<p>Pro-tip: When you get that crushing chest pain and you think you&#8217;re about to die, it&#8217;s gallstones.  Nobody mentions that side effect of rapid weight loss.</p>
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		<title>By: ahecht</title>
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		<dc:creator>ahecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didnt&#039; mean the chemical concoction of gelatin, starch, and cheese that is called &quot;low fat cheese&quot;, I meant a pizza with less cheese on it (most pizza places have options for light and heavy when it comes to toppings)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didnt&#8217; mean the chemical concoction of gelatin, starch, and cheese that is called &#8220;low fat cheese&#8221;, I meant a pizza with less cheese on it (most pizza places have options for light and heavy when it comes to toppings)</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Harden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Harden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has to be insulin resistance. Insulin tells the body when and how much fat to store.</description>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know one of those people.  He lives on jelly doughnuts and french fries with mayonnaise, rarely exercises and somehow looks like Arnold in Conan.</description>
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		<title>By: StumptownGeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>StumptownGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s more to it than just fidgeting.  I&#039;m one of those people inclined to be thin and if I eat an unusually heavy meal late in the day my body temperature cranks up while I&#039;m asleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s more to it than just fidgeting.  I&#8217;m one of those people inclined to be thin and if I eat an unusually heavy meal late in the day my body temperature cranks up while I&#8217;m asleep.</p>
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		<title>By: snowmentality</title>
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		<dc:creator>snowmentality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The equation is basically 

Fat gained/lost = Calories in - Calories burned

This simple equation is generally considered true enough -- if you look at people whose weight stays the same over a long period of time, and track how many calories they&#039;re eating on average over that time, you can generally assume that they must be burning as many calories as they eat, on average over time.

The nonlinearity comes in the &quot;Calories burned&quot; term. Calories burned = Basal metabolic rate + Calories burned in exercise/activity. 

It&#039;s well-known that the number of calories you burn while exercising depends on how much you weigh. There is also decent evidence that your basal metabolic rate has some dependence on how many calories you habitually consume (i.e. starvation will slow your metabolism). Sex, age, muscle mass (which probably correlates with how many calories you habitually burn while exercising) are also parameters.

So you&#039;ve got a mapping equation. How much fat you gain now depends not only on how many calories you eat and burn now, but also in some way on how many calories you&#039;ve eaten and burned in the past.

It really becomes more of a nonlinear dynamics problem in that sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The equation is basically </p>
<p>Fat gained/lost = Calories in &#8211; Calories burned</p>
<p>This simple equation is generally considered true enough &#8212; if you look at people whose weight stays the same over a long period of time, and track how many calories they&#8217;re eating on average over that time, you can generally assume that they must be burning as many calories as they eat, on average over time.</p>
<p>The nonlinearity comes in the &#8220;Calories burned&#8221; term. Calories burned = Basal metabolic rate + Calories burned in exercise/activity. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s well-known that the number of calories you burn while exercising depends on how much you weigh. There is also decent evidence that your basal metabolic rate has some dependence on how many calories you habitually consume (i.e. starvation will slow your metabolism). Sex, age, muscle mass (which probably correlates with how many calories you habitually burn while exercising) are also parameters.</p>
<p>So you&#8217;ve got a mapping equation. How much fat you gain now depends not only on how many calories you eat and burn now, but also in some way on how many calories you&#8217;ve eaten and burned in the past.</p>
<p>It really becomes more of a nonlinear dynamics problem in that sense.</p>
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		<title>By: dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 21:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although this article tried to acknowledge that fatness is not equal to laziness, in the end, that seems to be the underlying assumption. As a fat ally, I have to say that this article really bothered me. We should not be talking about obesity, we should be talking about health. Skinny people are healthy and unhealthy; fat people are healthy and unhealthy. Making the conversation only about weight creates unrealistic expectations and leads to discrimination. We should be encouraging everyone to eat right and exercise, no matter what their weight is.

For more: http://kateharding.net/faq/but-dont-you-realize-fat-is-unhealthy/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although this article tried to acknowledge that fatness is not equal to laziness, in the end, that seems to be the underlying assumption. As a fat ally, I have to say that this article really bothered me. We should not be talking about obesity, we should be talking about health. Skinny people are healthy and unhealthy; fat people are healthy and unhealthy. Making the conversation only about weight creates unrealistic expectations and leads to discrimination. We should be encouraging everyone to eat right and exercise, no matter what their weight is.</p>
<p>For more: <a href="http://kateharding.net/faq/but-dont-you-realize-fat-is-unhealthy/" rel="nofollow">http://kateharding.net/faq/but-dont-you-realize-fat-is-unhealthy/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Laura Harden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Harden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 21:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a big fan of BPC. I alternate making it with grass fed butter and virgin coconut oil. Increasing the fat in my diet (Paleo) has not only helped me to lose and maintain my weight but I also to improve my mood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a big fan of BPC. I alternate making it with grass fed butter and virgin coconut oil. Increasing the fat in my diet (Paleo) has not only helped me to lose and maintain my weight but I also to improve my mood.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Harden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Harden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Insulin resistance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insulin resistance!</p>
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		<title>By: dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> BMI is actually a fairly illogical way to measure anything. 
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106268439</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> BMI is actually a fairly illogical way to measure anything.<br />
<a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106268439" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106268439</a></p>
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		<title>By: Laura Harden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Harden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 21:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the pizza can be a problem because many commercially prepared pizza&#039;s now have pizza sauce with HFCS. Crust made with gmo wheat, corn, soy and HFCS. Low fat cheese isn&#039;t particularly better for you, just less nutritious. It has fewer calories, and less vitamin A&amp;D which are part and parcel with the milk fat. Not to mention that pizza contains a large amount of carbs on top of the added HFCS. Most people don&#039;t need a large number of carbs unless they are very active.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the pizza can be a problem because many commercially prepared pizza&#8217;s now have pizza sauce with HFCS. Crust made with gmo wheat, corn, soy and HFCS. Low fat cheese isn&#8217;t particularly better for you, just less nutritious. It has fewer calories, and less vitamin A&amp;D which are part and parcel with the milk fat. Not to mention that pizza contains a large amount of carbs on top of the added HFCS. Most people don&#8217;t need a large number of carbs unless they are very active.</p>
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