Comments on: Another Occupy Wall Street activist's Twitter account subpoenaed http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 19 May 2013 03:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Bobbo http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1371038 Bobbo Thu, 15 Mar 2012 07:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1371038 It's all BS!!! We (99%)don't write any laws It’s all BS!!! We (99%)don’t write any laws

]]> By: wysinwyg http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1369085 wysinwyg Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1369085  DA's office better 'splain themselves if they don't want a swarm of people dressed as pirates and seventeenth century anarchists protesting outside.  DA’s office better ‘splain themselves if they don’t want a swarm of people dressed as pirates and seventeenth century anarchists protesting outside.

]]> By: taghag http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368934 taghag Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:14:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368934  thanks, jennybean42, i was wondering and now i don't have to ask! :)  thanks, jennybean42, i was wondering and now i don’t have to ask! :)

]]> By: opiapr http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368818 opiapr Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:47:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368818 "Who are the other four? And why?" I believe the way is just to intimidate others. They want to sent a messege that they will persecute and harrast who ever make a stand. Is a shame and it seem the only way the government try to mantain control is trough fear. “Who are the other four? And why?” I believe the way is just to intimidate others. They want to sent a messege that they will persecute and harrast who ever make a stand. Is a shame and it seem the only way the government try to mantain control is trough fear.

]]> By: oasisob1 http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368790 oasisob1 Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368790  You need to put the word people in quotes. You know 'people' who can afford to pay more... like corporations.  You need to put the word people in quotes. You know ‘people’ who can afford to pay more… like corporations.

]]> By: jennybean42 http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368710 jennybean42 Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368710 My lawyer friend tells me the legal reason for subpoena-ing  a Twitter account is to authenticate the tweets  so that they can be used for evidence. Otherwise, it's just an investigator saying, "Hey, I saw this on the internet..." I know that there is a more insidious  side to it as well, but that side of it makes sense from a legal perspective... I think. My lawyer friend tells me the legal reason for subpoena-ing  a Twitter account is to authenticate the tweets  so that they can be used for evidence. Otherwise, it’s just an investigator saying, “Hey, I saw this on the internet…”

I know that there is a more insidious  side to it as well, but that side of it makes sense from a legal perspective… I think.

]]> By: Cowicide http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368701 Cowicide Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368701 Fishy fishing expedition? Fishy fishing expedition?

]]> By: LinkMan http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368675 LinkMan Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368675 We the People have been doing that for a long time.  Bankers generally aren't allowed to use twitter.  Their e-mail, IM and even many of their telephone conversations are all carefully archived so investigators can go through it at a later date.  Their employer-issued mobile devices are carefully locked down to make it very hard to use alternative communication services, and they can be fired for using any sort of outside personal device in the office. How else would we know that Goldman Sachs's Timberwolf CDO was a "shitty deal?"  (Note, I'm not saying that subpoenaing law abiding protestors' or journalists' twitter accounts is acceptable.  Nor that any of the restrictions on bankers are unjustified.  Just that your hyperbole is... well... hyperbole.) We the People have been doing that for a long time. 

Bankers generally aren’t allowed to use twitter.  Their e-mail, IM and even many of their telephone conversations are all carefully archived so investigators can go through it at a later date.  Their employer-issued mobile devices are carefully locked down to make it very hard to use alternative communication services, and they can be fired for using any sort of outside personal device in the office.

How else would we know that Goldman Sachs’s Timberwolf CDO was a “shitty deal?” 

(Note, I’m not saying that subpoenaing law abiding protestors’ or journalists’ twitter accounts is acceptable.  Nor that any of the restrictions on bankers are unjustified.  Just that your hyperbole is… well… hyperbole.)

]]> By: Charles Lenchner http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368649 Charles Lenchner Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:52:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368649 Jeff is a great guy. He's got a massive community in support of him and his democratic rights. Please respond to this situation by taking action, here: http://tech.nycga.net/2012/03/13/jeff-rae-no-way/ Jeff is a great guy. He’s got a massive community in support of him and his democratic rights. Please respond to this situation by taking action, here: http://tech.nycga.net/2012/03/13/jeff-rae-no-way/

]]> By: t3kna2007 http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368612 t3kna2007 Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368612 Police gathering outside locations of Occupy planning meetings without being invited, apparently to intimidate: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/12/nyregion/occupy-wall-street-protesters-complain-of-police-monitoring.html Police gathering outside locations of Occupy planning meetings without being invited, apparently to intimidate:

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/12/nyregion/occupy-wall-street-protesters-complain-of-police-monitoring.html

]]> By: Donny Viszneki http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368610 Donny Viszneki Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368610 > Who are the other four? They were probably #hashtags > Who are the other four?

They were probably #hashtags

]]> By: angusm http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368597 angusm Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368597 Hmm, Jeff is a journalist, among other things. Demanding to see the private messages of a journalist sets an even more ominous precedent. Hmm, Jeff is a journalist, among other things. Demanding to see the private messages of a journalist sets an even more ominous precedent.

]]> By: awjt http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368594 awjt Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368594  New Internet acronym: SLBD for slightly less brain dead  New Internet acronym: SLBD for slightly less brain dead

]]> By: pKp http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368590 pKp Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368590 "Do we not basically write the laws based on our beliefs and desires?" Well, no we don't. We pay people out of our taxes to do that, supposedly. And there's some people who can afford to pay them more. “Do we not basically write the laws based on our beliefs and desires?”

Well, no we don’t. We pay people out of our taxes to do that, supposedly. And there’s some people who can afford to pay them more.

]]> By: Rhett Holechek http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368572 Rhett Holechek Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368572 I hope by the time my daughter's great-grandchildren are old enough to have kids that this system is at least one step closer to being fixed.  I can't believe that 99% [roughly] of people can't come together and fix these things.  Do we not basically write the laws based on our beliefs and desires?  --Rant over...for now. I hope by the time my daughter’s great-grandchildren are old enough to have kids that this system is at least one step closer to being fixed.  I can’t believe that 99% [roughly] of people can’t come together and fix these things.  Do we not basically write the laws based on our beliefs and desires?  –Rant over…for now.

]]> By: EH http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368562 EH Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:58:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368562 ha ha, they already use the time-tested strategy of prohibiting writing implements in meetings. ha ha, they already use the time-tested strategy of prohibiting writing implements in meetings.

]]> By: Xeni Jardin http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368560 Xeni Jardin Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368560 I LOL'd. I LOL’d.

]]> By: OldBrownSquirrel http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368555 OldBrownSquirrel Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:52:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368555 This is at least slightly less brain-dead than the Boston-area DA's subpoena of a hashtag. #idiot This is at least slightly less brain-dead than the Boston-area DA’s subpoena of a hashtag. #idiot

]]> By: hassenpfeffer http://boingboing.net/2012/03/12/another-occupy-wall-street-act.html#comment-1368552 hassenpfeffer Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=148836#comment-1368552 So, when do "we" start subpoenaing the bankers' Twitter streams and email accounts? So, when do “we” start subpoenaing the bankers’ Twitter streams and email accounts?

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