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	<title>Comments on: Is &quot;Banksy on Advertising&quot;&#160;Plagiarized?</title>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/is-banksy-on-advertising-p.html#comment-1370806</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 23:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you should read again.  Sean Tejaratchi&#039;s quote: &lt;blockquote&gt;
Why should I ask my assailant&#039;s permission to keep a rock he&#039;s just thrown at my head? &lt;/blockquote&gt;That means the permission to keep the rock must be asked of the assailant, &lt;b&gt;by&lt;/b&gt; the target.  In other words, not diametrically opposed at all.  The opposite of opposite, in fact.  What we laypeople refer to as &quot;the same.&quot;

I know the issue&#039;s been cleared up, but you know how I can never just shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you should read again.  Sean Tejaratchi&#8217;s quote:<br />
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Why should I ask my assailant&#8217;s permission to keep a rock he&#8217;s just thrown at my head? </p></blockquote>
<p>That means the permission to keep the rock must be asked of the assailant, <b>by</b> the target.  In other words, not diametrically opposed at all.  The opposite of opposite, in fact.  What we laypeople refer to as &#8220;the same.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know the issue&#8217;s been cleared up, but you know how I can never just shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim H</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/is-banksy-on-advertising-p.html#comment-1370622</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t &quot;missing an attribution&quot;, this is outright plagiarism.  He picked and chose specific sentences, tweaked them, and then mixed them into other sentences and made them look like his own.  How are you supposed to attribute a sentence you changed?  That Banksy tries to explain this away as bad lay out is disgusting and deceptive.

The very idea that Banksy stole justifies stealing from big guys who make us see their stuff, Banksy hypocritically stole from a little guy who had put his idea in a book.  And stealing this sort of material isn&#039;t the tired graffiti/pop art cultural criticism that Banksy champions; it doesn&#039;t mean anything to &quot;recontextualize&quot; something if no one knows the context it started in.  

Banksy isn&#039;t just stealing words, and he&#039;s not just stealing an idea, he&#039;s stealing the &quot;street cred&quot; of having this great thought and mincing around in it like a Halloween costume.  He&#039;s using the thoughts of others to build up the Banksy brand.

If you want to help the Crap Hound guy out he happens to have a Kickstarter up to reprint the issue that Banksy stole from:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/947849256/crap-hound-6-death-telephones-and-scissors

If Banksy is really up for this whole free culture thing, maybe he should fund the whole Kickstarter in one go.  He has more money than Jesus and he obviously places great cultural value on the book.  And more importantly, he made money on that same idea that he stole - the very, very least he could do to fix this is to hand money back to reprint something that is great enough that he plagiarized it.  




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t &#8220;missing an attribution&#8221;, this is outright plagiarism.  He picked and chose specific sentences, tweaked them, and then mixed them into other sentences and made them look like his own.  How are you supposed to attribute a sentence you changed?  That Banksy tries to explain this away as bad lay out is disgusting and deceptive.</p>
<p>The very idea that Banksy stole justifies stealing from big guys who make us see their stuff, Banksy hypocritically stole from a little guy who had put his idea in a book.  And stealing this sort of material isn&#8217;t the tired graffiti/pop art cultural criticism that Banksy champions; it doesn&#8217;t mean anything to &#8220;recontextualize&#8221; something if no one knows the context it started in.  </p>
<p>Banksy isn&#8217;t just stealing words, and he&#8217;s not just stealing an idea, he&#8217;s stealing the &#8220;street cred&#8221; of having this great thought and mincing around in it like a Halloween costume.  He&#8217;s using the thoughts of others to build up the Banksy brand.</p>
<p>If you want to help the Crap Hound guy out he happens to have a Kickstarter up to reprint the issue that Banksy stole from:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/947849256/crap-hound-6-death-telephones-and-scissors" rel="nofollow">http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/947849256/crap-hound-6-death-telephones-and-scissors</a></p>
<p>If Banksy is really up for this whole free culture thing, maybe he should fund the whole Kickstarter in one go.  He has more money than Jesus and he obviously places great cultural value on the book.  And more importantly, he made money on that same idea that he stole &#8211; the very, very least he could do to fix this is to hand money back to reprint something that is great enough that he plagiarized it.  </p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/is-banksy-on-advertising-p.html#comment-1370472</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being concerned about &quot;stuff white people like&quot; is the very essence of &quot;first world problems.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being concerned about &#8220;stuff white people like&#8221; is the very essence of &#8220;first world problems.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ssll</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/is-banksy-on-advertising-p.html#comment-1370376</link>
		<dc:creator>ssll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean&#039;s original commentary on the situation is actually pretty inspired. Seems like a lot of this comments discussion wouldn&#039;t be taking place if people had clicked through and read his solution.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean&#8217;s original commentary on the situation is actually pretty inspired. Seems like a lot of this comments discussion wouldn&#8217;t be taking place if people had clicked through and read his solution.  </p>
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		<title>By: princeminski</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/is-banksy-on-advertising-p.html#comment-1370375</link>
		<dc:creator>princeminski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very little of what you see written on walls is &quot;original.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very little of what you see written on walls is &#8220;original.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John Irvine</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/is-banksy-on-advertising-p.html#comment-1370311</link>
		<dc:creator>John Irvine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do we know that Bansky isn&#039;t Tejaratchi?  I thought his identity was unknown? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do we know that Bansky isn&#8217;t Tejaratchi?  I thought his identity was unknown? </p>
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		<title>By: That_Anonymous_Coward</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/is-banksy-on-advertising-p.html#comment-1370225</link>
		<dc:creator>That_Anonymous_Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> You appear to be unfamiliar with HOA&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> You appear to be unfamiliar with HOA&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Houston Lang</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/is-banksy-on-advertising-p.html#comment-1370189</link>
		<dc:creator>Houston Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo dawg, I heard you beat horses</description>
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		<title>By: miasm</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/is-banksy-on-advertising-p.html#comment-1370162</link>
		<dc:creator>miasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Historically  speaking, it can be argued that MANY major authors and artists from all over the world have copied the ideas, techniques and forms of other artists without crediting them.

Take ancient Rome as an example. They perceived many great Greek cultural artefacts and copied them. Statues, paintings, plays, histories, popular sayings, architecture, comments, military tactics; everything. Did those Roman authors and artists give proper attribution to their sources of inspiration? Not at all, most of the time. 

Making sure to give proper attribution should be thought of as a nicety, merely a way of respecting those artists one is responsible for copying. Just because some brilliant thinker from the past managed to reach the same giddy heights of creativity as you doesn&#039;t mean you should feel bad for harping on the same idea, not that you should even credit them. Sometimes you might actively choose to credit them; not out of duty or need but out of fear of being caught out. 

Essentially, crediting serves few real purposes. 

1) Celebrating a respected precursor.
2) Assuming authority by drawing on the legacy of a precursor for your own ends.
3) Keep your records, such as patents or publishing, in legal order.
4) Make it easier for un-attributive douchebags to trace the history of the idea you created in order to seem more authentic.

Remember kiddies, all originals are dead. Copying without attribution is not bad for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historically  speaking, it can be argued that MANY major authors and artists from all over the world have copied the ideas, techniques and forms of other artists without crediting them.</p>
<p>Take ancient Rome as an example. They perceived many great Greek cultural artefacts and copied them. Statues, paintings, plays, histories, popular sayings, architecture, comments, military tactics; everything. Did those Roman authors and artists give proper attribution to their sources of inspiration? Not at all, most of the time. </p>
<p>Making sure to give proper attribution should be thought of as a nicety, merely a way of respecting those artists one is responsible for copying. Just because some brilliant thinker from the past managed to reach the same giddy heights of creativity as you doesn&#8217;t mean you should feel bad for harping on the same idea, not that you should even credit them. Sometimes you might actively choose to credit them; not out of duty or need but out of fear of being caught out. </p>
<p>Essentially, crediting serves few real purposes. </p>
<p>1) Celebrating a respected precursor.<br />
2) Assuming authority by drawing on the legacy of a precursor for your own ends.<br />
3) Keep your records, such as patents or publishing, in legal order.<br />
4) Make it easier for un-attributive douchebags to trace the history of the idea you created in order to seem more authentic.</p>
<p>Remember kiddies, all originals are dead. Copying without attribution is not bad for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Moriarty</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/is-banksy-on-advertising-p.html#comment-1370157</link>
		<dc:creator>Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a matter of fact I do think they would have less of a right to be angry. But even in that case, that&#039;s not a &quot;remix.&quot; A remix is taking a &lt;i&gt;copy&lt;/i&gt; of something and modifying it. That&#039;s not the same thing as modifying the original, which has nothing to do with &quot;free speech.&quot;

If the Pepsi corporation projected ads onto the front of your house, wouldn&#039;t you be annoyed? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a matter of fact I do think they would have less of a right to be angry. But even in that case, that&#8217;s not a &#8220;remix.&#8221; A remix is taking a <i>copy</i> of something and modifying it. That&#8217;s not the same thing as modifying the original, which has nothing to do with &#8220;free speech.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the Pepsi corporation projected ads onto the front of your house, wouldn&#8217;t you be annoyed? </p>
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		<title>By: SamSam</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/is-banksy-on-advertising-p.html#comment-1370127</link>
		<dc:creator>SamSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But is someone&#039;s advertising their physical property or their intellectual property? What is a billboard ad? I don&#039;t think it&#039;s the paper and the ink they bought, I think it&#039;s the message itself. The message is intellectual property.

If advertisers are angry at someone drawing mustaches on their billboards, it&#039;s because they&#039;re defacing their intellectual property, not because they&#039;re defacing their physical property.

Put it this way: if instead of using ink, Banksy projected mustaches onto the ads so that it didn&#039;t harm the paper at all, would the advertisers have any less right to be angry? If not, then I think we&#039;re agreeing that what&#039;s important is the intellectual property.

But if we&#039;re talking about intellectual property, then the notion of public squares, free speech and &quot;remixing&quot; can come into the conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But is someone&#8217;s advertising their physical property or their intellectual property? What is a billboard ad? I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s the paper and the ink they bought, I think it&#8217;s the message itself. The message is intellectual property.</p>
<p>If advertisers are angry at someone drawing mustaches on their billboards, it&#8217;s because they&#8217;re defacing their intellectual property, not because they&#8217;re defacing their physical property.</p>
<p>Put it this way: if instead of using ink, Banksy projected mustaches onto the ads so that it didn&#8217;t harm the paper at all, would the advertisers have any less right to be angry? If not, then I think we&#8217;re agreeing that what&#8217;s important is the intellectual property.</p>
<p>But if we&#8217;re talking about intellectual property, then the notion of public squares, free speech and &#8220;remixing&#8221; can come into the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Cicada Mania</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/is-banksy-on-advertising-p.html#comment-1370092</link>
		<dc:creator>Cicada Mania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Banksy is just remixing the quote.

Speaking of which, here&#039;s the Skrillex version:

&quot;Any advert you see in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours to take, re-arrangeeeee DROP THE BASS WUB WUB WUB WUB...&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banksy is just remixing the quote.</p>
<p>Speaking of which, here&#8217;s the Skrillex version:</p>
<p>&#8220;Any advert you see in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours to take, re-arrangeeeee DROP THE BASS WUB WUB WUB WUB&#8230;&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/is-banksy-on-advertising-p.html#comment-1370090</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, I don&#039;t think you can plagerise ideas or concepts.  I was expecting to see he&#039;d lifted a paragraph, but this is really reaching.

Copyright trolling on BoingBoing is weird.  Where&#039;s Cory when you need him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, I don&#8217;t think you can plagerise ideas or concepts.  I was expecting to see he&#8217;d lifted a paragraph, but this is really reaching.</p>
<p>Copyright trolling on BoingBoing is weird.  Where&#8217;s Cory when you need him?</p>
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		<title>By: Etienne Desticourt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Etienne Desticourt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;its images&quot;, right ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjTZpafEwe4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;its images&#8221;, right ?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjTZpafEwe4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjTZpafEwe4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sum One</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/is-banksy-on-advertising-p.html#comment-1370076</link>
		<dc:creator>Sum One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I&#039;m white, and I don&#039;t like him. Do I get a medal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I&#8217;m white, and I don&#8217;t like him. Do I get a medal?</p>
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		<title>By: Moriarty</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/is-banksy-on-advertising-p.html#comment-1370056</link>
		<dc:creator>Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But as you say, he&#039;s not talking about remixes. It&#039;s not about intellectual property. It&#039;s about &lt;i&gt;physical&lt;/i&gt; property. It&#039;s the difference between copying something and destroying it. And then having the gall to say that he had a &quot;right&quot; to do so because it was something that offended his delicate sensibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But as you say, he&#8217;s not talking about remixes. It&#8217;s not about intellectual property. It&#8217;s about <i>physical</i> property. It&#8217;s the difference between copying something and destroying it. And then having the gall to say that he had a &#8220;right&#8221; to do so because it was something that offended his delicate sensibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Moriarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It seems you think that advertising is sacred. &quot;

Not even a little bit. In fact I think I was kind of saying exactly the opposite, that it&#039;s no different than anything else. Compare it to my painting my house a color you don&#039;t like. You can&#039;t tell my house to shut up, can you? And you can&#039;t avoid seeing it when you walk down the street either. No, you have to &quot;shut up and take it,&quot; right? Yes, yes you do. 

You don&#039;t have a right to control everything that passes through your line of sight. You&#039;re not Louis XIV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It seems you think that advertising is sacred. &#8221;</p>
<p>Not even a little bit. In fact I think I was kind of saying exactly the opposite, that it&#8217;s no different than anything else. Compare it to my painting my house a color you don&#8217;t like. You can&#8217;t tell my house to shut up, can you? And you can&#8217;t avoid seeing it when you walk down the street either. No, you have to &#8220;shut up and take it,&#8221; right? Yes, yes you do. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have a right to control everything that passes through your line of sight. You&#8217;re not Louis XIV.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Banksy is the very essence of &quot;Stuff  white people like&quot;.</description>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see what the hub-bub is. They are two totally different ideas. Banksy said it&#039;s &quot;like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head,&quot; meaning the person who was HIT gets to keep the rock. Sean said it&#039;s like the THROWER asking to keep the rock.You can&#039;t have two more diametrically opposed statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see what the hub-bub is. They are two totally different ideas. Banksy said it&#8217;s &#8220;like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head,&#8221; meaning the person who was HIT gets to keep the rock. Sean said it&#8217;s like the THROWER asking to keep the rock.You can&#8217;t have two more diametrically opposed statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever our opinion of this is, at least he&#039;s just failing to reference a quote somewhat supporting his actions. Not, say, plagiarizing an article enforcing copyright. </description>
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		<title>By: Pedantic Douchebag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedantic Douchebag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the Crap Hound mentioned in the article the same/connected to Cory&#039;s Crap Hound?</description>
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		<title>By: Pedantic Douchebag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedantic Douchebag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes, the &quot;people have been getting away with it for centuries, so you might as well just accept it&quot; defense. Works well for the Vatican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes, the &#8220;people have been getting away with it for centuries, so you might as well just accept it&#8221; defense. Works well for the Vatican.</p>
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		<title>By: eldritch</title>
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		<dc:creator>eldritch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Historically speaking, LOTS of major authors and artists all across the world have taken the ideas and even the techniques and forms of other artists and not credited them.

Look at ancient Rome. They saw all this great Greek stuff, and they copied it. Statues, paintings, plays, histories, popular sayings, architecture, military tactics, everything. Did the Roman authors and artists properly attribute their sources of inspiration? Most of the time, not at all!

Attribution is a nicety - a way of showing respect for those one is consciously aware of copying. Just because some brilliant thinker thought something up 500 years ago doesn&#039;t mean you should feel bad for thinking the same thing, nor that you even need to credit them. But sometimes you might actively choose to credit them - not out of duty or need - but out of respect and admiration.

Essentially, crediting serves only a few real purposes.

1) Celebrate an admired precursor.
2) Borrow authority/legacy of a precursor for your own ends.
3) Keep legal/financial records, such as patents/publishing, in order.
4) Make it easier for future scholars to trace the history of something.

Remember kids - all of the originals are dead. Copying is good for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historically speaking, LOTS of major authors and artists all across the world have taken the ideas and even the techniques and forms of other artists and not credited them.</p>
<p>Look at ancient Rome. They saw all this great Greek stuff, and they copied it. Statues, paintings, plays, histories, popular sayings, architecture, military tactics, everything. Did the Roman authors and artists properly attribute their sources of inspiration? Most of the time, not at all!</p>
<p>Attribution is a nicety &#8211; a way of showing respect for those one is consciously aware of copying. Just because some brilliant thinker thought something up 500 years ago doesn&#8217;t mean you should feel bad for thinking the same thing, nor that you even need to credit them. But sometimes you might actively choose to credit them &#8211; not out of duty or need &#8211; but out of respect and admiration.</p>
<p>Essentially, crediting serves only a few real purposes.</p>
<p>1) Celebrate an admired precursor.<br />
2) Borrow authority/legacy of a precursor for your own ends.<br />
3) Keep legal/financial records, such as patents/publishing, in order.<br />
4) Make it easier for future scholars to trace the history of something.</p>
<p>Remember kids &#8211; all of the originals are dead. Copying is good for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron Briggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aron Briggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank dadaism for showing artists that skill could be a dirty a word and originality was optional.  and making it that much harder to tell the wolves from the sheep</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank dadaism for showing artists that skill could be a dirty a word and originality was optional.  and making it that much harder to tell the wolves from the sheep</p>
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		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
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		<dc:creator>penguinchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 07:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you take it in the context of the art Banksy is known for, it seems to me what he&#039;s justifying is, essentially, defacing advertising placed in public by drawing mustaches on the models. 

Of course we know that&#039;s not really what he means, but the right to &quot;take, re-arrange, and re-use&quot; is something many here advocate for, and it&#039;s essentially something we already have so long as the corporations don&#039;t get their way. Their viewpoint may be taking it to the extreme, but the idea behind it is sound and considering that art is fundamentally about taking, rearranging, and reusing the things that came before - yes, I believe we do have that right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you take it in the context of the art Banksy is known for, it seems to me what he&#8217;s justifying is, essentially, defacing advertising placed in public by drawing mustaches on the models. </p>
<p>Of course we know that&#8217;s not really what he means, but the right to &#8220;take, re-arrange, and re-use&#8221; is something many here advocate for, and it&#8217;s essentially something we already have so long as the corporations don&#8217;t get their way. Their viewpoint may be taking it to the extreme, but the idea behind it is sound and considering that art is fundamentally about taking, rearranging, and reusing the things that came before &#8211; yes, I believe we do have that right.</p>
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		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
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		<dc:creator>penguinchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 06:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Apparently the author claims she wasn&#039;t aware of Battle Royale until after she had already written her book, and I tend to want to accept that claim - if it was a ripoff, she did a terrible job. It sounds (and the movie trailer looks) really stupid compared to Battle Royale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Apparently the author claims she wasn&#8217;t aware of Battle Royale until after she had already written her book, and I tend to want to accept that claim &#8211; if it was a ripoff, she did a terrible job. It sounds (and the movie trailer looks) really stupid compared to Battle Royale.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick McGorrill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick McGorrill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 04:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t even . . .  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_mood#English
wiki/Conditional_mood#English</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t even . . . <br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_mood#English" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_mood#English</a><br />
wiki/Conditional_mood#English</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 04:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, sure.  Just so long as it&#039;s made clear that even though Banksy published this screed under his own name, and attributed it to no-one but his own damn self, no matter how much he agrees with Sean&#039;s point and wants to make it his own, he didn&#039;t have the wit or honesty to put the sentiment into his own goddamned words.  Best he could do was slightly rearrange someone else&#039;s essay.

Yeah.  Wotta genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, sure.  Just so long as it&#8217;s made clear that even though Banksy published this screed under his own name, and attributed it to no-one but his own damn self, no matter how much he agrees with Sean&#8217;s point and wants to make it his own, he didn&#8217;t have the wit or honesty to put the sentiment into his own goddamned words.  Best he could do was slightly rearrange someone else&#8217;s essay.</p>
<p>Yeah.  Wotta genius.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick McGorrill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick McGorrill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 04:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, hear! Property rights are human rights. Now, let&#039;s beat the metaphor out of these damned writers.</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 03:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The bad artists imitate, the great artists steal.&quot;  Pablo Picasso

http://www.banksy.co.uk/indoors/badartists2.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The bad artists imitate, the great artists steal.&#8221;  Pablo Picasso</p>
<p><a href="http://www.banksy.co.uk/indoors/badartists2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.banksy.co.uk/indoors/badartists2.html</a></p>
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