Comments on: Copyright troll stripped of copyrights, which are to be sold to pay off its victims http://boingboing.net/2012/03/14/copyright-troll-stripped-of-co.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Tue, 21 May 2013 02:26:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: shadowfirebird http://boingboing.net/2012/03/14/copyright-troll-stripped-of-co.html#comment-1371112 shadowfirebird Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149211#comment-1371112 Let's hope that all these nice tasty copyrights go to owners who will feed them and bring them in at night, and not corporations who will likely persue them rigorously in order to recoup some of their expenditure in buying them.  ::sigh:: Surely the problem is that copyrights can be bought and sold in the first place? Let’s hope that all these nice tasty copyrights go to owners who will feed them and bring them in at night, and not corporations who will likely persue them rigorously in order to recoup some of their expenditure in buying them.  ::sigh::

Surely the problem is that copyrights can be bought and sold in the first place?

]]> By: Iaminnocenttheblood Ofthisjust http://boingboing.net/2012/03/14/copyright-troll-stripped-of-co.html#comment-1371008 Iaminnocenttheblood Ofthisjust Thu, 15 Mar 2012 05:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149211#comment-1371008 The best way to end this garbage is to counter sue FOR the copyright. Ultimately, most of the trolls are "Pigs that devour usury" those that live off the works of others and produce nothing themselves.  Were it not for the law we'd kill them on sight... In front of a jury you can bring out crayons and stationary from say 20 years ago from your kindergarten stuff and say "Look!  I thought of this idea 20 years ago!  You are the jury, you decide!" as you doodle out the lyrics to a song, sketches for an animation, etc. if they sue you for an AMV on YouTube...  Then let the copyright troll "Lose" the copyright for a major media company he DID NOT directly represent.  (serious, most of these swine do NOT directly work for the guys.  Both "Plausable deniablity" and they themselves are con artists who don't give a penny to the artists/companies, all profits being eaten in self-justified "Legal Fees")  But a jury can decide copyright, literally decide the "Truth" and if they hate the parasite enough and realize this they CAN do this...  They'll make sure he never practices law ever again...  And, wanting the property back, you could then go "I'll sell it back for legal fees and 25 cents, but please let me use this stuff on YouTube, I'm advertising colostomy prog rock and a no longer showing cartoon...I'm giving you free advertising"... The best way to end this garbage is to counter sue FOR the copyright.

Ultimately, most of the trolls are “Pigs that devour usury” those that live off the works of others and produce nothing themselves.  Were it not for the law we’d kill them on sight…

In front of a jury you can bring out crayons and stationary from say 20 years ago from your kindergarten stuff and say “Look!  I thought of this idea 20 years ago!  You are the jury, you decide!” as you doodle out the lyrics to a song, sketches for an animation, etc. if they sue you for an AMV on YouTube…  Then let the copyright troll “Lose” the copyright for a major media company he DID NOT directly represent.  (serious, most of these swine do NOT directly work for the guys.  Both “Plausable deniablity” and they themselves are con artists who don’t give a penny to the artists/companies, all profits being eaten in self-justified “Legal Fees”)  But a jury can decide copyright, literally decide the “Truth” and if they hate the parasite enough and realize this they CAN do this…  They’ll make sure he never practices law ever again…  And, wanting the property back, you could then go “I’ll sell it back for legal fees and 25 cents, but please let me use this stuff on YouTube, I’m advertising colostomy prog rock and a no longer showing cartoon…I’m giving you free advertising”…

]]> By: Mordicai http://boingboing.net/2012/03/14/copyright-troll-stripped-of-co.html#comment-1370876 Mordicai Thu, 15 Mar 2012 01:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149211#comment-1370876 I'm all for malicious glee...but doesn't this set a precedent to let copyrights be stripped from legitimate copyright holders, in the invent of like, bankruptcy or something? I’m all for malicious glee…but doesn’t this set a precedent to let copyrights be stripped from legitimate copyright holders, in the invent of like, bankruptcy or something?

]]> By: foobar http://boingboing.net/2012/03/14/copyright-troll-stripped-of-co.html#comment-1370817 foobar Thu, 15 Mar 2012 00:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149211#comment-1370817 Hopefully they can pierce the veil and hold both the principles of Righthaven personally and the newspapers they represented responsible for the damage. Hopefully they can pierce the veil and hold both the principles of Righthaven personally and the newspapers they represented responsible for the damage.

]]> By: Marko Raos http://boingboing.net/2012/03/14/copyright-troll-stripped-of-co.html#comment-1370751 Marko Raos Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149211#comment-1370751 garbage should be buried in garbage garbage should be buried in garbage

]]> By: sagodjur http://boingboing.net/2012/03/14/copyright-troll-stripped-of-co.html#comment-1370717 sagodjur Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149211#comment-1370717  The Techdirt article on the matter mentioned the uncertain ownership and possible worthlessness of the auctioned copyrights: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120313/11571418093/whatever-copyrights-righthaven-might-actually-have-owned-now-transferred-to-receiver-auction.shtml.  The Techdirt article on the matter mentioned the uncertain ownership and possible worthlessness of the auctioned copyrights: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120313/11571418093/whatever-copyrights-righthaven-might-actually-have-owned-now-transferred-to-receiver-auction.shtml.

]]> By: EH http://boingboing.net/2012/03/14/copyright-troll-stripped-of-co.html#comment-1370666 EH Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149211#comment-1370666 Yes, that seems to be the unmentioned aspect of this story that I haven't seen described anywhere: it's the Las Vegas Review Journal that appears to be losing copyrights to their own articles. No news on the Denver Post (Righthaven's other client), but I don't recall Righthaven initiating any suits on their behalf. Yes, that seems to be the unmentioned aspect of this story that I haven’t seen described anywhere: it’s the Las Vegas Review Journal that appears to be losing copyrights to their own articles. No news on the Denver Post (Righthaven’s other client), but I don’t recall Righthaven initiating any suits on their behalf.

]]> By: Todd Knarr http://boingboing.net/2012/03/14/copyright-troll-stripped-of-co.html#comment-1370629 Todd Knarr Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149211#comment-1370629 This judge hadn't found Righthaven didn't own the copyrights. He'd found that the uses complained about were allowable under fair use, so Righthaven didn't have a complaint. The judgement being paid's the judgement for costs and fees allowed to a prevailing defendant in a copyright case. The judge is just taking Righthaven at it's word that it owns the copyrights in question (which it'd need to in order to file an infringement suit in the first place). I supposed the newspapers could contest the order on the grounds that they didn't sell the copyrights to Righthaven, but that'd come back to bite them in other cases. This judge hadn’t found Righthaven didn’t own the copyrights. He’d found that the uses complained about were allowable under fair use, so Righthaven didn’t have a complaint. The judgement being paid’s the judgement for costs and fees allowed to a prevailing defendant in a copyright case. The judge is just taking Righthaven at it’s word that it owns the copyrights in question (which it’d need to in order to file an infringement suit in the first place). I supposed the newspapers could contest the order on the grounds that they didn’t sell the copyrights to Righthaven, but that’d come back to bite them in other cases.

]]> By: pepik http://boingboing.net/2012/03/14/copyright-troll-stripped-of-co.html#comment-1370527 pepik Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149211#comment-1370527 I'm confused - I thought they didn't own the copyrights in question, which was kind of a big deal. If they didn't own them, how can they surrender them? I’m confused – I thought they didn’t own the copyrights in question, which was kind of a big deal. If they didn’t own them, how can they surrender them?

]]> By: Gary61 http://boingboing.net/2012/03/14/copyright-troll-stripped-of-co.html#comment-1370466 Gary61 Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:14:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149211#comment-1370466 I really love it when the 'black hats' go down .... but to have them 'tossed down the stairs by a judge' - almost as good as pi. I really love it when the ‘black hats’ go down ….
but to have them ‘tossed down the stairs by a judge’ – almost as good as pi.

]]> By: ultimabuddy http://boingboing.net/2012/03/14/copyright-troll-stripped-of-co.html#comment-1370252 ultimabuddy Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149211#comment-1370252 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glu5wr5LRm4&t=1m43s Appropriate, imho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glu5wr5LRm4&t=1m43s

Appropriate, imho

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