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	<title>Comments on: FAA to review in-flight gadget policies, maybe,&#160;eventually</title>
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		<title>By: nnu-16121</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1375089</link>
		<dc:creator>nnu-16121</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the FAA guidance to airlines, there are three reasons for not allowing electronic devices at critical flight times: Inattention (getting lost in a good book or film), the potential for the device to act as a projectile and physically injure someone, and the possibility of electronic interference.

As a tactical matter, I wish you all would stop pointing out to the FAA that (at least for items one and two) Harry Potter in hardback or Architectural Digest magazine are dangers that are as big or greater than your Kindle. I&#039;m not sure why you expect their response to be un-banning the kindle rather than banning your books and magazines.

As to the interference, I see no difference in frequency spectrum or output power between the devices current today and those tested in UK Civil Aviation Authority CAA Paper 2003/3; &quot;Effects of Interference from Cellular Telephones on Aircraft Avionic Equipment&quot; and the NASA report that stated: &quot;If a CDMA or GSM wireless handset radiated spurious signals equal to the maximum allowable FCC limits, it would result in large NEGATIVE safety margins, even when considering “reasonable minimum” radio receiver interference thresholds&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the FAA guidance to airlines, there are three reasons for not allowing electronic devices at critical flight times: Inattention (getting lost in a good book or film), the potential for the device to act as a projectile and physically injure someone, and the possibility of electronic interference.</p>
<p>As a tactical matter, I wish you all would stop pointing out to the FAA that (at least for items one and two) Harry Potter in hardback or Architectural Digest magazine are dangers that are as big or greater than your Kindle. I&#8217;m not sure why you expect their response to be un-banning the kindle rather than banning your books and magazines.</p>
<p>As to the interference, I see no difference in frequency spectrum or output power between the devices current today and those tested in UK Civil Aviation Authority CAA Paper 2003/3; &#8220;Effects of Interference from Cellular Telephones on Aircraft Avionic Equipment&#8221; and the NASA report that stated: &#8220;If a CDMA or GSM wireless handset radiated spurious signals equal to the maximum allowable FCC limits, it would result in large NEGATIVE safety margins, even when considering “reasonable minimum” radio receiver interference thresholds&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jagadish</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1375054</link>
		<dc:creator>Jagadish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been testing this for a long time now. I always put my iPod/iPad in sleep mode and never completely power them off. There was also a time when I forgot to turn my phone off and the flight magically did not crash. So, I don&#039;t see why they shouldn&#039;t allow electronic gadgets during take off. It&#039;s one less thing for the stewardess to check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been testing this for a long time now. I always put my iPod/iPad in sleep mode and never completely power them off. There was also a time when I forgot to turn my phone off and the flight magically did not crash. So, I don&#8217;t see why they shouldn&#8217;t allow electronic gadgets during take off. It&#8217;s one less thing for the stewardess to check.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Until the person next to you sees that as a signal to talk to you the entire flight about their personal problems or how much they hate something.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You need to work on making your body language more hostile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Until the person next to you sees that as a signal to talk to you the entire flight about their personal problems or how much they hate something.</p></blockquote>
<p>You need to work on making your body language more hostile.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Siddall</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1375008</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Siddall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is this the airline&#039;s problem and not an aircraft manufacturers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is this the airline&#8217;s problem and not an aircraft manufacturers?</p>
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		<title>By: Snig</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374971</link>
		<dc:creator>Snig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Dad (retired now) was a quality control engineer for a component used in jet airplanes.  It regulates fuel usage.  He and his colleagues spent years sweating the  details before it was used.  A couple years after his retirement, one plane that had his component had a major engine failure, he was tremendously relieved when the cause was determined to have nothing to do with his component.  He told me he won&#039;t be completely relaxed about it until they move onto the next generation component or engine and all the one&#039;s he was in charge of are no longer in use.  He intellectually knows that his part is safe, well over a decade of no safety issues, but I can&#039;t imagine him agreeing to anything that could theoretically lead to less safety for one of &quot;his&quot; engines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Dad (retired now) was a quality control engineer for a component used in jet airplanes.  It regulates fuel usage.  He and his colleagues spent years sweating the  details before it was used.  A couple years after his retirement, one plane that had his component had a major engine failure, he was tremendously relieved when the cause was determined to have nothing to do with his component.  He told me he won&#8217;t be completely relaxed about it until they move onto the next generation component or engine and all the one&#8217;s he was in charge of are no longer in use.  He intellectually knows that his part is safe, well over a decade of no safety issues, but I can&#8217;t imagine him agreeing to anything that could theoretically lead to less safety for one of &#8220;his&#8221; engines.</p>
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		<title>By: brianary</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374952</link>
		<dc:creator>brianary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Safety first&quot; is often a good example of superstition.

Self important? Please explain.

I don&#039;t think personal attacks are warranted or effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Safety first&#8221; is often a good example of superstition.</p>
<p>Self important? Please explain.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think personal attacks are warranted or effective.</p>
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		<title>By: brianary</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374945</link>
		<dc:creator>brianary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What? </p>
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		<title>By: uricacid</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374938</link>
		<dc:creator>uricacid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> that must have been awkward.  &quot;what are YOU doing here???&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> that must have been awkward.  &#8220;what are YOU doing here???&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Baldhead</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374918</link>
		<dc:creator>Baldhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> or they worked out long ago that &quot;on&quot; doesn&#039;t always mean &quot;music is playing through them&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> or they worked out long ago that &#8220;on&#8221; doesn&#8217;t always mean &#8220;music is playing through them&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Baldhead</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374905</link>
		<dc:creator>Baldhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I&#039;ll counter that: a friend of mine met his wife on the plane. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I&#8217;ll counter that: a friend of mine met his wife on the plane. </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374895</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That very question is exactly the difference.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That very question is exactly the difference.  </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374893</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang on... you&#039;re asking the stewardesses about operational safety?

Okay, I&#039;m gonna go ask my dentists receptionist if fluoride is safe. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang on&#8230; you&#8217;re asking the stewardesses about operational safety?</p>
<p>Okay, I&#8217;m gonna go ask my dentists receptionist if fluoride is safe. </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374888</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> No. It is the very definition of Safety First. 

What you&#039;re doing is the very definition of self-important. 

So go buy an airline and run it how you like. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> No. It is the very definition of Safety First. </p>
<p>What you&#8217;re doing is the very definition of self-important. </p>
<p>So go buy an airline and run it how you like. </p>
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		<title>By: CountZero</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374788</link>
		<dc:creator>CountZero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who haven&#039;t been paying attention lately, airlines have been testing iPads, and have no problems with them, because several airlines have already issued flight crew with iPads loaded with all charts and documentation in order to replace large, heavy and cumbersome flight cases.
I can certainly believe its all about making sure the passengers are paying attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who haven&#8217;t been paying attention lately, airlines have been testing iPads, and have no problems with them, because several airlines have already issued flight crew with iPads loaded with all charts and documentation in order to replace large, heavy and cumbersome flight cases.<br />
I can certainly believe its all about making sure the passengers are paying attention.</p>
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		<title>By: uricacid</title>
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		<dc:creator>uricacid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes sense.  But as mentioned elsewhere, why is the issue then being presented as a technical problem rather than a human relations problem.

I would guess that the &quot;proof&quot; that these devices don&#039;t harm the flight equipment already exists without the need for expensive testing -- because, out of millions of flights, with millions of passengers, I find it very unlikely that  even 99% of the time people *actually* turn off the devices.  Think of the millions of takeoffs and landings that occurred successfully with all the running devices onboard (either through wilfulness or forgetfulness)

Then again, I wouldn&#039;t venture to estimate how many non-lethal (and not worthy of media attention) seemingly random glitches occur in a cockpit over the course of millions of flights, so I guess I take back my second paragraph.

but seriously, instead of making up fear-mongering bullshit about someone&#039;s iPod bringing down the airplane, why not be honest?  &quot;Take-off and landings are the most critical moments of the flight, and so we require you to put away all reading materials and electronic devices and pay attention to the safety warnings.&quot;  I can&#039;t imagine you&#039;d have any less compliance than you have now.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes sense.  But as mentioned elsewhere, why is the issue then being presented as a technical problem rather than a human relations problem.</p>
<p>I would guess that the &#8220;proof&#8221; that these devices don&#8217;t harm the flight equipment already exists without the need for expensive testing &#8212; because, out of millions of flights, with millions of passengers, I find it very unlikely that  even 99% of the time people *actually* turn off the devices.  Think of the millions of takeoffs and landings that occurred successfully with all the running devices onboard (either through wilfulness or forgetfulness)</p>
<p>Then again, I wouldn&#8217;t venture to estimate how many non-lethal (and not worthy of media attention) seemingly random glitches occur in a cockpit over the course of millions of flights, so I guess I take back my second paragraph.</p>
<p>but seriously, instead of making up fear-mongering bullshit about someone&#8217;s iPod bringing down the airplane, why not be honest?  &#8220;Take-off and landings are the most critical moments of the flight, and so we require you to put away all reading materials and electronic devices and pay attention to the safety warnings.&#8221;  I can&#8217;t imagine you&#8217;d have any less compliance than you have now.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffF</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374731</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What they probably ought to do is test a plane loaded up with a bunch of fully active electronics, van de graff generators, malfunctioning Tv&#039;s, ham radio sets run by toddlers, running hairdriers, dented microwave ovens, etc and if its fine end all electronic activity rules... and if it&#039;s not make sure the next wave of planes is fine and look into retrofitting the current ones.

However items larger and heavier than phones should probably remain stowed for purely mechanical threat reasons.

I dropped my ipad once from waist height.  It chopped into the wood floor like an axe leaving a 1/4&quot; deep divot.  Quite sure it could have seriously damaged my toe.  Really don&#039;t want those flying around the cabin if there is a problem.  A phone in the head would hurt quite a bit, but a tablet or laptop could easily seriously injure someone.

(PS the ipad was fine.  This event caused me to stop using the smart cover.  What happened was I didn&#039;t have a secure enough grip and when the thing started to slide I reflexively grabbed the smart cover which just pulled right off.  Significant flaw in the magnet attachment idea.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What they probably ought to do is test a plane loaded up with a bunch of fully active electronics, van de graff generators, malfunctioning Tv&#8217;s, ham radio sets run by toddlers, running hairdriers, dented microwave ovens, etc and if its fine end all electronic activity rules&#8230; and if it&#8217;s not make sure the next wave of planes is fine and look into retrofitting the current ones.</p>
<p>However items larger and heavier than phones should probably remain stowed for purely mechanical threat reasons.</p>
<p>I dropped my ipad once from waist height.  It chopped into the wood floor like an axe leaving a 1/4&#8243; deep divot.  Quite sure it could have seriously damaged my toe.  Really don&#8217;t want those flying around the cabin if there is a problem.  A phone in the head would hurt quite a bit, but a tablet or laptop could easily seriously injure someone.</p>
<p>(PS the ipad was fine.  This event caused me to stop using the smart cover.  What happened was I didn&#8217;t have a secure enough grip and when the thing started to slide I reflexively grabbed the smart cover which just pulled right off.  Significant flaw in the magnet attachment idea.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tynam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tynam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, there&#039;s a clear distinction between &quot;captain&quot; and &quot;pilot&quot;, as any sailor can tell you. On an airliner it&#039;s the same person doing both jobs, for good reasons. But the reasons for that are purely economic. Being in charge of the aircraft is not, in principle, the same job as flying it. It&#039;s just convenient to do both at once.

(The co-pilot may take over the flight controls. He &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; takes over the captain&#039;s responsibility.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, there&#8217;s a clear distinction between &#8220;captain&#8221; and &#8220;pilot&#8221;, as any sailor can tell you. On an airliner it&#8217;s the same person doing both jobs, for good reasons. But the reasons for that are purely economic. Being in charge of the aircraft is not, in principle, the same job as flying it. It&#8217;s just convenient to do both at once.</p>
<p>(The co-pilot may take over the flight controls. He <i>never</i> takes over the captain&#8217;s responsibility.)</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Mielke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Mielke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t see any laptop/kindle/nook users needing the wifi feature anyway; the chances of connecting over 802.11 while in flight are sort of vanishingly low unless it&#039;s the airline&#039;s system anyway. If that&#039;s the hassle, &#039;airline mode&#039; or wifi off should be sufficient, and is probably a good idea if you want the battery to last all flight anyway.

I can&#039;t see a difference between my Kindle and a paper book except for the weight and number of pages. Oh, and having text in a readable size. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see any laptop/kindle/nook users needing the wifi feature anyway; the chances of connecting over 802.11 while in flight are sort of vanishingly low unless it&#8217;s the airline&#8217;s system anyway. If that&#8217;s the hassle, &#8216;airline mode&#8217; or wifi off should be sufficient, and is probably a good idea if you want the battery to last all flight anyway.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t see a difference between my Kindle and a paper book except for the weight and number of pages. Oh, and having text in a readable size. </p>
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		<title>By: MrWoods</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrWoods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d bet every flight has at least one IPad/IPhone/Android/Kindle left on, if only by accident. Compile that data and I&#039;m certain there is 0% correlation between wireless devices being on and planes crashing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d bet every flight has at least one IPad/IPhone/Android/Kindle left on, if only by accident. Compile that data and I&#8217;m certain there is 0% correlation between wireless devices being on and planes crashing.</p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care how they decide this as long as inflight cell phone conversations are forbidden forever.</description>
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		<title>By: ChicagoD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChicagoD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t talk to the person next to you. They don&#039; t want to talk to you. They&#039;re on an airplane. They want to be where they are going, not make new friends.

Otherwise, what you said. Except when you&#039;re stuck on a tarmac not moving for hours. That&#039;s a pain in the tush, since most of us plan for 30 minutes without our device, not six hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t talk to the person next to you. They don&#8217; t want to talk to you. They&#8217;re on an airplane. They want to be where they are going, not make new friends.</p>
<p>Otherwise, what you said. Except when you&#8217;re stuck on a tarmac not moving for hours. That&#8217;s a pain in the tush, since most of us plan for 30 minutes without our device, not six hours.</p>
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		<title>By: brianary</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374627</link>
		<dc:creator>brianary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> You are right: you don&#039;t get the &quot;obsession&quot;.

It isn&#039;t &quot;10 minutes&quot;. For me, it&#039;s often been 40 mins or more at each end of the flight. Which is stupid for a two hour flight.

Our &quot;gadgets&quot; are where all of our &quot;magazines&quot; and books are now! My &quot;gadget&quot; is even how I send postcards to my grandma! Print magazines and newspapers may not be an option much longer. You might as well suggest people churn butter.

Meditation sounds good. Until the person next to you sees that as a signal to talk to you the entire flight about their personal problems or how much they hate something.

Obviously it isn&#039;t the most horrible thing in the world, but the TSA has made some people less tolerant of consenting to stupid, random authoritarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> You are right: you don&#8217;t get the &#8220;obsession&#8221;.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t &#8220;10 minutes&#8221;. For me, it&#8217;s often been 40 mins or more at each end of the flight. Which is stupid for a two hour flight.</p>
<p>Our &#8220;gadgets&#8221; are where all of our &#8220;magazines&#8221; and books are now! My &#8220;gadget&#8221; is even how I send postcards to my grandma! Print magazines and newspapers may not be an option much longer. You might as well suggest people churn butter.</p>
<p>Meditation sounds good. Until the person next to you sees that as a signal to talk to you the entire flight about their personal problems or how much they hate something.</p>
<p>Obviously it isn&#8217;t the most horrible thing in the world, but the TSA has made some people less tolerant of consenting to stupid, random authoritarianism.</p>
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		<title>By: brianary</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374619</link>
		<dc:creator>brianary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> This is the very definition of superstition. Assume black cats are dangerous until every last one of them has been tested.

Also: Appeal to fear.

Also: Strawman (Cut the Rope, as opposed to composing a critical email for work, to send once you&#039;ve landed).

The FCC tests all these devices to ensure they don&#039;t cause undue interference. They could (may already) test the &quot;airplane mode&quot; and deny the use of that term to any device that emits EM in that mode. There&#039;s no reason for this duplication of gov&#039;t testing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> This is the very definition of superstition. Assume black cats are dangerous until every last one of them has been tested.</p>
<p>Also: Appeal to fear.</p>
<p>Also: Strawman (Cut the Rope, as opposed to composing a critical email for work, to send once you&#8217;ve landed).</p>
<p>The FCC tests all these devices to ensure they don&#8217;t cause undue interference. They could (may already) test the &#8220;airplane mode&#8221; and deny the use of that term to any device that emits EM in that mode. There&#8217;s no reason for this duplication of gov&#8217;t testing!</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374555</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Some of the comments persuade me that it&#039;s not strictly a technical problem.

But the FAA claims it IS a technical problem, so let me ask a technical question:  why not build a Faraday cage around the passenger cabin and be done with it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Some of the comments persuade me that it&#8217;s not strictly a technical problem.</p>
<p>But the FAA claims it IS a technical problem, so let me ask a technical question:  why not build a Faraday cage around the passenger cabin and be done with it?</p>
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		<title>By: Wowbagger_Infinitley_Prolonged</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374543</link>
		<dc:creator>Wowbagger_Infinitley_Prolonged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> So I can&#039;t read my Nook, but the guy next to me can read his hardcover Stephen King novel?  Where&#039;s the difference in distraction or weight?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> So I can&#8217;t read my Nook, but the guy next to me can read his hardcover Stephen King novel?  Where&#8217;s the difference in distraction or weight?  </p>
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		<title>By: Snig</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374516</link>
		<dc:creator>Snig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m waiting for the movie where the plane is taken over and the passengers Macguyver control back by use of their personal electronics.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m waiting for the movie where the plane is taken over and the passengers Macguyver control back by use of their personal electronics.  </p>
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		<title>By: Wolf Ilandl Butler</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374514</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolf Ilandl Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I probably wouldn&#039;t mind it so much if it was just for the safety briefing, but many airlines also use this captive time to pitch their credit cards, vacation packages, show car commercials on their in-flight systems, etc. That&#039;s where the BS factor comes in...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I probably wouldn&#8217;t mind it so much if it was just for the safety briefing, but many airlines also use this captive time to pitch their credit cards, vacation packages, show car commercials on their in-flight systems, etc. That&#8217;s where the BS factor comes in&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Lydall</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374508</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Lydall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an iPad owner, I am very understanding that during take off and landing, they don&#039;t want me watching a movie or listening to music in case they need my attention in the event of an emergency.

But if I am merely using my Kindle app, I don&#039;t see how that is any different from the person sitting next to me reading a paper book and they aren&#039;t required to put the book away at any time.

I just wish they would relax the some of the restrictions in a reasonable way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an iPad owner, I am very understanding that during take off and landing, they don&#8217;t want me watching a movie or listening to music in case they need my attention in the event of an emergency.</p>
<p>But if I am merely using my Kindle app, I don&#8217;t see how that is any different from the person sitting next to me reading a paper book and they aren&#8217;t required to put the book away at any time.</p>
<p>I just wish they would relax the some of the restrictions in a reasonable way.</p>
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		<title>By: maryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>maryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking as a pilot: Matthew Kramer&#039;s comments above are spot-on and you should listen. When emergencies happen, they are more likely to happen during take-off and landing, so the crew want you paying attention, not immersed in WoW with your earbuds in and the volume cranked. (At altitude, on the other hand, they&#039;d actually prefer you to be under electronic sedation, which is why you almost never see those big drop-down screens anymore — every airline that can afford it is retrofitting for personal seat-back systems.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as a pilot: Matthew Kramer&#8217;s comments above are spot-on and you should listen. When emergencies happen, they are more likely to happen during take-off and landing, so the crew want you paying attention, not immersed in WoW with your earbuds in and the volume cranked. (At altitude, on the other hand, they&#8217;d actually prefer you to be under electronic sedation, which is why you almost never see those big drop-down screens anymore — every airline that can afford it is retrofitting for personal seat-back systems.) </p>
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		<title>By: awjt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/faa-to-review-in-flight-gadget.html#comment-1374474</link>
		<dc:creator>awjt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a multi-level issue, for sure, but no flight attendant on any airline has EVER told me to remove my Bose noise-cancelling headphones.  Even with the removable audio cable still plugged into the left earcup.  I usually do, like a good doobie-doo, but have never had an issue.  I can take off with them on, land with them on.  They have a little green light too, when they are on, plainly visible.  Maybe I&#039;m just THAT CHARMING and using the Force, I dunno.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a multi-level issue, for sure, but no flight attendant on any airline has EVER told me to remove my Bose noise-cancelling headphones.  Even with the removable audio cable still plugged into the left earcup.  I usually do, like a good doobie-doo, but have never had an issue.  I can take off with them on, land with them on.  They have a little green light too, when they are on, plainly visible.  Maybe I&#8217;m just THAT CHARMING and using the Force, I dunno.</p>
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