Comments on: Trove of free, public domain HD video http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Rick Prelinger http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1376170 Rick Prelinger Wed, 21 Mar 2012 21:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1376170 Just to clarify, the unedited stock footage materials are actually unpublished works and copyright is owned by Internet Archive. The archival films (that's to say, edited films with continuity) are in public domain.  "Public domain" in the post title was inserted by Cory, not by us.  Just to clarify, the unedited stock footage materials are actually unpublished works and copyright is owned by Internet Archive. The archival films (that’s to say, edited films with continuity) are in public domain. 

“Public domain” in the post title was inserted by Cory, not by us. 

]]> By: Andrew Roach http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1375567 Andrew Roach Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1375567 It's a great deal, so long as the films aren't *actually* in the public domain.  It’s a great deal, so long as the films aren’t *actually* in the public domain. 

]]> By: Andrew Roach http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1375566 Andrew Roach Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1375566 Digitization isn't a creative process. Under US copyright law, as I understand it, it would be considered sweat of the brow work, and uncopyrightable. In the same way, a faithful reproduction of a work of art that is in the public domain (ie a photograph), is also normally considered to be in the public domain.  I'm having a hard time remembering how long unpublished works remain under copyright before passing into the public domain. If these works are still under copyright and were given to the Archive, and the Archive is releasing them, that is one matter. If they are, in fact, public domain, then it is in rather bad taste for the archive to claim ownership of them.  Digitization isn’t a creative process. Under US copyright law, as I understand it, it would be considered sweat of the brow work, and uncopyrightable. In the same way, a faithful reproduction of a work of art that is in the public domain (ie a photograph), is also normally considered to be in the public domain. 

I’m having a hard time remembering how long unpublished works remain under copyright before passing into the public domain. If these works are still under copyright and were given to the Archive, and the Archive is releasing them, that is one matter. If they are, in fact, public domain, then it is in rather bad taste for the archive to claim ownership of them. 

]]> By: Dave Bell http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1374964 Dave Bell Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1374964 US Public Domain is not always so clear when you're outside the USA, but I'd doubt that these are in the Public Domain. Published now, it's under current rules. 70 years after the death of the author probably doesn't apply as they'd be corporate works, so it would be 120 years after creation. CC Attribution is a pretty good deal, I reckon. US Public Domain is not always so clear when you’re outside the USA, but I’d doubt that these are in the Public Domain. Published now, it’s under current rules. 70 years after the death of the author probably doesn’t apply as they’d be corporate works, so it would be 120 years after creation.

CC Attribution is a pretty good deal, I reckon.

]]> By: Sam Pourasghar http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1374687 Sam Pourasghar Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1374687 It'd be grand to take some of this footage to make an authentic looking Chumley Warner style "Take heed!" family educational video. It will be done. It’d be grand to take some of this footage to make an authentic looking Chumley Warner style “Take heed!” family educational video. It will be done.

]]> By: thebroll http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1374397 thebroll Tue, 20 Mar 2012 06:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1374397 Great stabilization!  I was thinking the same thing while watching some of those videos.  After stabilization, the shot becomes a pretty good candidate for slitscan effects, which I think would be interesting. Great stabilization!  I was thinking the same thing while watching some of those videos.  After stabilization, the shot becomes a pretty good candidate for slitscan effects, which I think would be interesting.

]]> By: billstreeter http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1374266 billstreeter Tue, 20 Mar 2012 02:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1374266 I think the fact that they made the digitized copy. The films themselves are PD but the digitized version is considered an original work. So they're reserving the rights to sell the higher res versions and making the lower res versions available for free under a CC attribution license.   I think the fact that they made the digitized copy. The films themselves are PD but the digitized version is considered an original work. So they’re reserving the rights to sell the higher res versions and making the lower res versions available for free under a CC attribution license.  

]]> By: Lemoutan http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1374127 Lemoutan Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1374127 I find your use of find regular. I find your use of find regular.

]]> By: Stig-L Sørensen http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1374002 Stig-L Sørensen Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1374002 The trip across George Washington Brigde?  I just had to stabilize in After Effects, I just had to: http://youtu.be/g2gWRcqmbrU The trip across George Washington Brigde? 
I just had to stabilize in After Effects, I just had to: http://youtu.be/g2gWRcqmbrU

]]> By: Andrew Roach http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1373819 Andrew Roach Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1373819 Also, they are "Licensing" higher resolution stills and movies through Getty.  If this is PD content, what legal right do they have to require that attribution?  Also, they are “Licensing” higher resolution stills and movies through Getty. 

If this is PD content, what legal right do they have to require that attribution? 

]]> By: Mr. Mole http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1373814 Mr. Mole Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1373814 Inspired me to make this: https://vimeo.com/38789580 More or less a straight rip with minor editing, but if 15 minutes is what you have, make something with that 15 minutes. Inspired me to make this:
https://vimeo.com/38789580

More or less a straight rip with minor editing, but if 15 minutes is what you have, make something with that 15 minutes.

]]> By: Tim Drage http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1373796 Tim Drage Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1373796 I find your use of bold and italic remarkable. I find your use of bold and italic remarkable.

]]> By: Jeff http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1373733 Jeff Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1373733 It would be cool to feed this into Google Street View and let you choose the era you want to see the street in. It would be cool to feed this into Google Street View and let you choose the era you want to see the street in.

]]> By: msbpodcast http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1373641 msbpodcast Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1373641 While these archives are black-and-white shorts of scenes and artefacts and are virtually useless for any but the most ardent histophilic cinematographer, I find it remarkable that <b><i>any</i></b> of it managed to escape from the clutches of the greedy studios. But I bet I will manage to find <i>solarized</i> stills excerpted from these shorts and used in manga and animé versions of <b><i>new</i></b> stories coming out of Japan. While these archives are black-and-white shorts of scenes and artefacts and are virtually useless for any but the most ardent histophilic cinematographer, I find it remarkable that any of it managed to escape from the clutches of the greedy studios.

But I bet I will manage to find solarized stills excerpted from these shorts and used in manga and animé versions of new stories coming out of Japan.

]]> By: Noctilucent Studios http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1373634 Noctilucent Studios Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1373634 At the rate things continue to become available, I am going to need to live to about 900 years or so to accomplish everything on my to-do list... At the rate things continue to become available, I am going to need to live to about 900 years or so to accomplish everything on my to-do list…

]]> By: Blinde Schildpad http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1373633 Blinde Schildpad Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1373633 Nice! Nice!

]]> By: Andrew Roach http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1373632 Andrew Roach Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1373632 The post title says "Public Domain" but the archive says "Creative Commons Attribution."  There is a huge difference between the two. Please advise.  The post title says “Public Domain” but the archive says “Creative Commons Attribution.” 

There is a huge difference between the two. Please advise. 

]]> By: Snarf http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1373629 Snarf Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1373629 What great news! I love making music videos out of stuff from the Prelinger archives. Like this one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3vN70NBvhI Now, off to make more videos... What great news! I love making music videos out of stuff from the Prelinger archives. Like this one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3vN70NBvhI

Now, off to make more videos…

]]> By: Christopher http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1373627 Christopher Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1373627 Wow. Having made a few short films using public domain images and my own narration I've often wondered if there was a trove of stock film footage I could put to similar use. Wish granted. Even if I never put any of this to use it still looks like a treasure trove of awesomeness, and bless the people who have put this much work into making it. Wow. Having made a few short films using public domain images and my own narration I’ve often wondered if there was a trove of stock film footage I could put to similar use.

Wish granted. Even if I never put any of this to use it still looks like a treasure trove of awesomeness, and bless the people who have put this much work into making it.

]]> By: Matt MacIntyre http://boingboing.net/2012/03/19/trove-of-free-public-domain-h.html#comment-1373625 Matt MacIntyre Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=149926#comment-1373625 So nice. Thanks for sharing, Rick and Cory! So nice. Thanks for sharing, Rick and Cory!

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