Comments on: Wooden skyscrapers: efficient, fire-safe, environmentally friendly(ier) http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Tue, 21 May 2013 22:13:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Itsumishi http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1376630 Itsumishi Thu, 22 Mar 2012 03:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1376630 <blockquote>Despite being made of wood any worries about towering infernos should be banished, says Green, as large timber performs well in fires with a layer of char insulating the structural wood beneath. "It may sound counter-intuitive, but performing well in a fire is something inherent in large piece of wood, that's why in forest fires the trees that survive are the largest ones," he say</blockquote> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charring" rel="nofollow">And for more information</a>...

Despite being made of wood any worries about towering infernos should be banished, says Green, as large timber performs well in fires with a layer of char insulating the structural wood beneath.

“It may sound counter-intuitive, but performing well in a fire is something inherent in large piece of wood, that’s why in forest fires the trees that survive are the largest ones,” he say

And for more information…

]]> By: Itsumishi http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1376626 Itsumishi Thu, 22 Mar 2012 03:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1376626 No, we're not ignoring that fact. It's addressed in the linked article: <blockquote>Cutting down trees to make buildings doesn't immediately sound eco-friendly either, but if sourced from sustainably managed forests (like those in Europe and North America), it can be more environmentally sensitive.</blockquote> No, we’re not ignoring that fact. It’s addressed in the linked article:

Cutting down trees to make buildings doesn’t immediately sound eco-friendly either, but if sourced from sustainably managed forests (like those in Europe and North America), it can be more environmentally sensitive.

]]> By: Ant http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1376473 Ant Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1376473 Underground rule! Underground rule!

]]> By: skeptacally http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1376191 skeptacally Wed, 21 Mar 2012 21:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1376191 we could bring down the price a tad if we got sweden to design them. AND we could assemble them using nothing but allen keys. we could bring down the price a tad if we got sweden to design them. AND we could assemble them using nothing but allen keys.

]]> By: Kevin http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1376109 Kevin Wed, 21 Mar 2012 20:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1376109  My credentials? I've seen a fire before. Stacking wood with lots of air gaps and tons of  flammable crap that the people living in it are going to bring spells disaster plain and simple. This is NOTHING but a publicity stunt. It's not real.  My credentials? I’ve seen a fire before. Stacking wood with lots of air gaps and tons of  flammable
crap that the people living in it are going to bring spells disaster plain and simple. This is NOTHING but a publicity stunt. It’s not real.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1376068 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 21 Mar 2012 19:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1376068 <blockquote>And arguing against chopping down one particular forest because the rain-forest is disappearing is like arguing against anyone eating anything until we have feed all the starving poor. </blockquote>Shockingly, different forests contain different and unique species.

And arguing against chopping down one particular forest because the rain-forest is disappearing is like arguing against anyone eating anything until we have feed all the starving poor.

Shockingly, different forests contain different and unique species.

]]> By: Ryan Matheuszik http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375985 Ryan Matheuszik Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375985 I note that the architect does not address how this proposed structure would perform in an earthquake. We live in an earthquake zone here in Vancouver. I note that the architect does not address how this proposed structure would perform in an earthquake. We live in an earthquake zone here in Vancouver.

]]> By: Daniel Saraga http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375760 Daniel Saraga Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375760 That was my thought exactly. Wouldn't it collapse under its own weight, and what about the weight of the occupants' possessions as well? That was my thought exactly. Wouldn’t it collapse under its own weight, and what about the weight of the occupants’ possessions as well?

]]> By: OtherMichael http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375758 OtherMichael Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375758  Those are from contiguous beams -- what about the laminate-composites referenced in the article? do they have the same audio-expansion-compression issues?  Those are from contiguous beams — what about the laminate-composites referenced in the article? do they have the same audio-expansion-compression issues?

]]> By: OtherMichael http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375753 OtherMichael Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375753 is "self-propelled" a necessary property  of  "flying"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballista scale 'em up, and throw 'em out..... projectile wooden cars with wings glide own for a happy landing-drive... is “self-propelled” a necessary property  of  “flying”?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballista

scale ‘em up, and throw ‘em out….. projectile wooden cars with wings glide own for a happy landing-drive…

]]> By: czak ivanovic http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375749 czak ivanovic Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375749  They'll use wood from the interior of BC, the coastal rainforesty stuff is too valuable to chew up into strands.  They’ll use wood from the interior of BC, the coastal rainforesty stuff is too valuable to chew up into strands.

]]> By: Brad H. http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375703 Brad H. Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375703 Tell that to Morgan. Stubborn bastards use a wooden frame for their cars and are still made and owned in England. Get with the times. Tell that to Morgan. Stubborn bastards use a wooden frame for their cars and are still made and owned in England. Get with the times.

]]> By: Brad H. http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375696 Brad H. Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375696 Tell me about it. I'm surrounded by them. Tell me about it. I’m surrounded by them.

]]> By: Daniel Smith http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375673 Daniel Smith Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375673  Actually, bamboo scaffolding has been used for the construction of a 71 story structure...a bit more than 20m... http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2001-05-31/news/0105310236_1_bamboo-hong-kong-sung-dynasty/2  Actually, bamboo scaffolding has been used for the construction of a 71 story structure…a bit more than 20m…

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2001-05-31/news/0105310236_1_bamboo-hong-kong-sung-dynasty/2

]]> By: IronEdithKidd http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375619 IronEdithKidd Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375619 CNN uses autocomplete and employs no editors.   *facepalm* CNN uses autocomplete and employs no editors.  

*facepalm*

]]> By: OtherMichael http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375606 OtherMichael Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375606  Hyrbid idea: wooden buildings that spawn building-seedlings when burned. The heat melts resin and tensioned-wood projects them outward from the nest....  Hyrbid idea: wooden buildings that spawn building-seedlings when burned. The heat melts resin and tensioned-wood projects them outward from the nest….

]]> By: howaboutthisdangit http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375584 howaboutthisdangit Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375584 Ideally, they would harvest mature trees which are not pulling much CO2 out of the air, and plant new trees which will capture more CO2 as they grow. Ideally, they would harvest mature trees which are not pulling much CO2 out of the air, and plant new trees which will capture more CO2 as they grow.

]]> By: Vincent http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375579 Vincent Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375579 We have enough oxygen, that's not really a selling point, though we would like to absorb more carbon-dioxide, so chopping down a forest and growing a new one is a rather good idea. And arguing against chopping down one particular forest because the rain-forest is disappearing is like arguing against anyone eating anything until we have feed all the starving poor. It's not really constructive moving towards the goal. We have enough oxygen, that’s not really a selling point, though we would like to absorb more carbon-dioxide, so chopping down a forest and growing a new one is a rather good idea.

And arguing against chopping down one particular forest because the rain-forest is disappearing is like arguing against anyone eating anything until we have feed all the starving poor. It’s not really constructive moving towards the goal.

]]> By: starfish and coffee http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375575 starfish and coffee Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375575 Having grown up in a wooden house I have learned to love the loud cracking noises wood beams make as they expand or contract when the temperature changes during the day. But it freaks the fuck out of visitors. I wonder how these wood skyscrapers would sound? Btw, the noise comes from the joints I think, not the beams as such. Having grown up in a wooden house I have learned to love the loud cracking noises wood beams make as they expand or contract when the temperature changes during the day. But it freaks the fuck out of visitors.
I wonder how these wood skyscrapers would sound?

Btw, the noise comes from the joints I think, not the beams as such.

]]> By: formosaman http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375559 formosaman Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375559 Pretty common to build wooden planes in the past, the Mosquito is a quite famous WW2 example and worked extremely well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Mosquito It too used a combination of woods laminated together for strength.   Pretty common to build wooden planes in the past, the Mosquito is a quite famous WW2 example and worked extremely well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Mosquito
It too used a combination of woods laminated together for strength.  

]]> By: oasisob1 http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375549 oasisob1 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375549 Wooden FLYING cars! Wooden FLYING cars!

]]> By: oasisob1 http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375548 oasisob1 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375548  That's where I work.  That’s where I work.

]]> By: oasisob1 http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375546 oasisob1 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375546  Hey let me get into a lode-bearing structure; I'll be rich!  Hey let me get into a lode-bearing structure; I’ll be rich!

]]> By: LennStar http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375534 LennStar Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:35:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375534 Because people like to be in a bunker  with no windows. Because people like to be in a bunker  with no windows.

]]> By: LennStar http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375532 LennStar Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375532 There are even trees who need fire. They make no (or not many) seeds until a fire comes by.  There are even trees who need fire. They make no (or not many) seeds until a fire comes by. 

]]> By: LennStar http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375530 LennStar Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375530 Bamboo is, as far as I know, not dense enough for this type of structure (and has nearly no isolating features). You can build 20m high scaffolding, though.   Bamboo is, as far as I know, not dense enough for this type of structure (and has nearly no isolating features). You can build 20m high scaffolding, though.  

]]> By: LennStar http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375529 LennStar Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375529 I don't think termites will like the glue component. I don’t think termites will like the glue component.

]]> By: furono http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375470 furono Wed, 21 Mar 2012 07:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375470 Couldn't that "small forest" be used for something better than an all wood building?  Isn't a better reason like providing oxygen?  With the rain forest about to disappear do you think this is a great use of resources? Couldn’t that “small forest” be used for something better than an all wood building?  Isn’t a better reason like providing oxygen?  With the rain forest about to disappear do you think this is a great use of resources?

]]> By: clasqm http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375445 clasqm Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375445 Also, how may centuries/milennia are you prepared to wait for your living skyscraper to grow? If you gengineer them to grow faster the looser ring structure means less strength. Also, how may centuries/milennia are you prepared to wait for your living skyscraper to grow? If you gengineer them to grow faster the looser ring structure means less strength.

]]> By: emo hex http://boingboing.net/2012/03/20/wooden-skyscrapers-efficient.html#comment-1375398 emo hex Wed, 21 Mar 2012 04:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=150087#comment-1375398 Can wooden cars not be next. Can wooden cars not be next.

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