But what’s the real issue here? It’s that these calorie-rich foods, and especially those lacking in actual nutrients, are so much less expensive than food that’s good for you. In large part due to the screwed up subsidy system that’s led to corn and soybeans being the foundation of the bulk of the nation’s food supply system.

Where is this stuff coming from? I don’t get this at all from reading Dr. Guyenet’s writings. Quite the opposite. Science and evolution are at the core of his writings. I don’t see any principles here from Scicurious or Ted Brennan that Stephan would disagree with (other than their characterizations of him). Seems like Stephan is being mistaken for straw men that are his antithesis.

So it goes . . .

And what’s the base of the Food Pyramid? 9-12 servings of yummy yummy starchy carbs a day. (No, I’m not going zero-carb on people, but is a loaf of bread a day a good idea?)

Disclaimer: I have no connection to Dr. Kessler, I’m just a fat guy trying to become less lardassed and I’ve read the book. Losing weight healthily is slow-going.

Edit: Oh, hey, MikeKStar got there before me.

Also If the scientists are arguing over conclusions that are not that simple, there is a very good chance that they have already discounted your simple hypothesis for very good reasons. I am just guessing that you are probably speaking in ignorance of the scientific debate, that you have just been too intellectually lazy to educate yourself before making simplistic inane and downright mean comments.

Maybe next time you should start there.

Frankly the support for his position isn’t there when it comes to obesity. But of course, even Guyenet will walk it back to the science when questioned, but not when putting forth his program of what policies people and society should take based on his hypothesis. Sadly, for nutrition and diet this is pretty par for the course. Someone gets a limited result and its off to the races. 

Thankfully, there are people who will do the scientific reviews like in Nature. Good science is the way forward. Guyenet frequently does good science in his lab work but overreaches in his conclusions. That is the difference in the end between having a good tested hypothesis and a broader theory supported by many tested hypothesis. He has only done one section of the work.

Food companies purposely promote food addiction by deliberately altering the properties of food to make them more pleasurable to our brains.  It truly is an addiction – only people don’t realize they’re addicted.

Adding salt, sugar, fat and other chemical additives trigger dopamine responses very similar to narcotics.  This makes it harder for us to resist the urges to eat more and numbs the signals to stop when we’re full. 

Shaming the obese and calling them a lazy fat ass is exactly the wrong response and is counter-productive.  Attitudes such as yours only contributes to the cycle of obesity described in the article.

A recommended book that describes this topic in easy to understand detail is “The End of Overeating” by Dr. David Kessler.  A very excellent book.  The chapter about the restaurant chain Chili’s will make you want to vomit.

And if you have trouble losing weight, you’re a lazy fat ass and should be ashamed.

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