<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Bruce Sterling&#039;s critique and love note to &quot;the New&#160;Aesthetic&quot;</title>
	<atom:link href="http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html</link>
	<description>Brain candy for Happy Mutants</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 16:24:00 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1388679</link>
		<dc:creator>penguinchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 01:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1388679</guid>
		<description>I&#039;ve had that on Korean Air and Etihad (which is the UAE airline) and yeah, it&#039;s awesome. But they disable it at takeoff and landing! Imagine my disappointment to watch it the whole time while taxiing, and then for it to be cut off when we&#039;re actually taking off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had that on Korean Air and Etihad (which is the UAE airline) and yeah, it&#8217;s awesome. But they disable it at takeoff and landing! Imagine my disappointment to watch it the whole time while taxiing, and then for it to be cut off when we&#8217;re actually taking off.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sparg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1388343</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 19:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1388343</guid>
		<description> I always enjoyed watching the NASA channel whenever there was a shuttle mission.  For hours the earth would roll on beneath the black with the little bit of humanity in between.  Mesmerizing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I always enjoyed watching the NASA channel whenever there was a shuttle mission.  For hours the earth would roll on beneath the black with the little bit of humanity in between.  Mesmerizing!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: noah django</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386969</link>
		<dc:creator>noah django</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 04:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386969</guid>
		<description>I started reading it in earnest, then went into skim mode for the last third.  I can hang with art, though I don&#039;t get as deep into theory as some other posters here.  I&#039;m definitely not as tech as Sterling or Cory or most of y&#039;all, probably.  My take, for what it&#039;s worth, is that the essay was a ranting, poorly written mess.  Or it was over my head.   Or both.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started reading it in earnest, then went into skim mode for the last third.  I can hang with art, though I don&#8217;t get as deep into theory as some other posters here.  I&#8217;m definitely not as tech as Sterling or Cory or most of y&#8217;all, probably.  My take, for what it&#8217;s worth, is that the essay was a ranting, poorly written mess.  Or it was over my head.   Or both.  </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kimmo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386945</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 03:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386945</guid>
		<description> It could just be something as simple as a liking for the way your mind responds to low-detail imagery; perhaps it&#039;s something slightly along the road to words painting a different picture for each reader, you know?

No emphasis whatsoever on nostalgia necessary; just that we all kinda noticed this effect when it went away, and started playing with it after finding the uncanny valley so sterile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> It could just be something as simple as a liking for the way your mind responds to low-detail imagery; perhaps it&#8217;s something slightly along the road to words painting a different picture for each reader, you know?</p>
<p>No emphasis whatsoever on nostalgia necessary; just that we all kinda noticed this effect when it went away, and started playing with it after finding the uncanny valley so sterile.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kimmo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386940</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 03:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386940</guid>
		<description>Sorry, but IMO the sentiment behind that vid (not to mention the amount of work that went into it) makes the creators bigger dickheads than the folks they&#039;re mocking.

Me-too hipsterism may well be shallow and silly, but at least it deconstructs norms to some extent, whereas the idea behind this vid only detracts rather than offering anything much of value beyond assisting the categorisation of a subculture, something of dubious merit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but IMO the sentiment behind that vid (not to mention the amount of work that went into it) makes the creators bigger dickheads than the folks they&#8217;re mocking.</p>
<p>Me-too hipsterism may well be shallow and silly, but at least it deconstructs norms to some extent, whereas the idea behind this vid only detracts rather than offering anything much of value beyond assisting the categorisation of a subculture, something of dubious merit.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Waffle_Man</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386913</link>
		<dc:creator>Waffle_Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 02:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386913</guid>
		<description> But why are they using it in the first place?

Big chunky visible pixels have been completely obsolete for what, 15, 20, 30 years depending on how you count?

I don&#039;t think that you can simultaneously mine the art styles of the distant past, carefully mimicking flaws and limitations that no longer exist,  AND claim to be against nostalgia.

I guess I sort of come at it backwards: If using an ancient art style because of its aesthetic beauty isn&#039;t &quot;nostalgic&quot;, than what art is? At that point, does nostalgia even mean anything in the context of art?

I don&#039;t have a problem with nostalgia, particularly, but all these essays bring it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> But why are they using it in the first place?</p>
<p>Big chunky visible pixels have been completely obsolete for what, 15, 20, 30 years depending on how you count?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that you can simultaneously mine the art styles of the distant past, carefully mimicking flaws and limitations that no longer exist,  AND claim to be against nostalgia.</p>
<p>I guess I sort of come at it backwards: If using an ancient art style because of its aesthetic beauty isn&#8217;t &#8220;nostalgic&#8221;, than what art is? At that point, does nostalgia even mean anything in the context of art?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with nostalgia, particularly, but all these essays bring it up.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: blueelm</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386837</link>
		<dc:creator>blueelm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 00:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386837</guid>
		<description>The New Aesthetic = The Pre-Raphaelites of the 21st century?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The New Aesthetic = The Pre-Raphaelites of the 21st century?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: hypnosifl</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386818</link>
		<dc:creator>hypnosifl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 00:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386818</guid>
		<description>I feel like he protests a bit too much when it comes to &quot;retro&quot; pixellated graphics (8-bit or otherwise)--looking at examples of &quot;New Aesthetic&quot; stuff that seems very common and maybe the easiest visual signature to identify, and besides, retro-style graphics aren&#039;t just about nostalgia for childhood video games, I&#039;ve seen artists doing very cool stuff with it, like the weird, slightly Lynchian artwork of &lt;a href=&quot;http://unomoralez.livejournal.com/tag/my%20pic&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Uno Moralez&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like he protests a bit too much when it comes to &#8220;retro&#8221; pixellated graphics (8-bit or otherwise)&#8211;looking at examples of &#8220;New Aesthetic&#8221; stuff that seems very common and maybe the easiest visual signature to identify, and besides, retro-style graphics aren&#8217;t just about nostalgia for childhood video games, I&#8217;ve seen artists doing very cool stuff with it, like the weird, slightly Lynchian artwork of <a href="http://unomoralez.livejournal.com/tag/my%20pic" rel="nofollow">Uno Moralez</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: hypersomniac</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386676</link>
		<dc:creator>hypersomniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386676</guid>
		<description>Bruce Sterling to New Aestheticists: GET OFF MY LAWN </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce Sterling to New Aestheticists: GET OFF MY LAWN </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386637</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 20:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386637</guid>
		<description>Damn, I used to commute through Dalston and Hoxton, must have left before the Penny Farthings made a comeback.  I&#039;ll be honest though, I think that&#039;s pretty awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, I used to commute through Dalston and Hoxton, must have left before the Penny Farthings made a comeback.  I&#8217;ll be honest though, I think that&#8217;s pretty awesome.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ambiguity</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386569</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambiguity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386569</guid>
		<description>I think Japan has been doing that for years. Can&#039;t say I&#039;m a big fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Japan has been doing that for years. Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m a big fan.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ambiguity</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386566</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambiguity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386566</guid>
		<description> Wobble wobble....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Wobble wobble&#8230;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ambiguity</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386561</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambiguity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386561</guid>
		<description>I understand what you&#039;re saying (and often find McLuhan insightful), but should regressiveness be equated with nostalgia? I&#039;ll have to ponder that one a bit. They seem related, but I&#039;m not sure if there is a one-to-one mapping.

And then the whole thing becomes complicated with &quot;irony&quot; is thrown in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what you&#8217;re saying (and often find McLuhan insightful), but should regressiveness be equated with nostalgia? I&#8217;ll have to ponder that one a bit. They seem related, but I&#8217;m not sure if there is a one-to-one mapping.</p>
<p>And then the whole thing becomes complicated with &#8220;irony&#8221; is thrown in!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Adam Smith</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386481</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 18:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386481</guid>
		<description>You&#039;re right, we should call it &quot;Visual Dubstep&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, we should call it &#8220;Visual Dubstep&#8221; </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: tristan eldritch</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386413</link>
		<dc:creator>tristan eldritch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386413</guid>
		<description>That was exactly my reaction. 

 &quot;What do you think of this new aesthetic that&#039;s been emerging in the arts recently, the one they&#039;re calling.....the New Aesthetic?&quot;

Anyway, I&#039;ve been thinking for a long time about what comes after postmodernism, and logically it can only be the Pre-Incipient Movement.  Notice how everybody today keeps nattering on about how things like Can are &quot;really ahead of their time?&quot;  It&#039;s all part of the Pre-Incipient Era&#039;s obsession with cultural prescience, and with the idea of temporality as being in a constantly fluid, embryonic state of incipient potentiality.  Man, I could really sell this shit.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was exactly my reaction. </p>
<p> &#8221;What do you think of this new aesthetic that&#8217;s been emerging in the arts recently, the one they&#8217;re calling&#8230;..the New Aesthetic?&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;ve been thinking for a long time about what comes after postmodernism, and logically it can only be the Pre-Incipient Movement.  Notice how everybody today keeps nattering on about how things like Can are &#8220;really ahead of their time?&#8221;  It&#8217;s all part of the Pre-Incipient Era&#8217;s obsession with cultural prescience, and with the idea of temporality as being in a constantly fluid, embryonic state of incipient potentiality.  Man, I could really sell this shit.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: davidasposted</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386403</link>
		<dc:creator>davidasposted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386403</guid>
		<description> I&#039;ll bite. Why do you think you are responsible (in part) for starting this artistic movement? You make this statement both in this post and your livejournal post, but do not provide an explanation for the uninitiated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I&#8217;ll bite. Why do you think you are responsible (in part) for starting this artistic movement? You make this statement both in this post and your livejournal post, but do not provide an explanation for the uninitiated.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Doobie</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386400</link>
		<dc:creator>Doobie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386400</guid>
		<description>and since when has art followed architecture?

http://fashionarchitecturetaste.com/ </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and since when has art followed architecture?</p>
<p><a href="http://fashionarchitecturetaste.com/ " rel="nofollow">http://fashionarchitecturetaste.com/ </a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jim Saul</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386369</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Saul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 16:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386369</guid>
		<description> That sounds awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> That sounds awesome!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jim Saul</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386363</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Saul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386363</guid>
		<description>Last bit fell flat for me as well... I lived in the Midwest and worked in LA for a few years, so made the flight several times a month over that time, and always opted for the window seat, if I couldn&#039;t get the exit row. It never got old, and neither does Google Earth.

Much of the rest of the essay is nicely thought provoking. With Sterling, sometimes he seems to rockets out ideas so fast that even if there are a few duds they are overwhelmed by the barrage of good ones.

His book &lt;i&gt;Distraction&lt;/i&gt; is like that for me... despite being less tightly plotted and coherent than his more successful works, there were so many great ideas in it I wanted to see brought to life. I&#039;ve reread sections of it several times even though the overall plot meandered in and out of interesting territory.

The RFID tagged building materials for semi-skilled assembly of complex architecture, and the  fluidly ad hoc teams of Makers who were central to the narrative were inspiring enough to draw me back to it from time to time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last bit fell flat for me as well&#8230; I lived in the Midwest and worked in LA for a few years, so made the flight several times a month over that time, and always opted for the window seat, if I couldn&#8217;t get the exit row. It never got old, and neither does Google Earth.</p>
<p>Much of the rest of the essay is nicely thought provoking. With Sterling, sometimes he seems to rockets out ideas so fast that even if there are a few duds they are overwhelmed by the barrage of good ones.</p>
<p>His book <i>Distraction</i> is like that for me&#8230; despite being less tightly plotted and coherent than his more successful works, there were so many great ideas in it I wanted to see brought to life. I&#8217;ve reread sections of it several times even though the overall plot meandered in and out of interesting territory.</p>
<p>The RFID tagged building materials for semi-skilled assembly of complex architecture, and the  fluidly ad hoc teams of Makers who were central to the narrative were inspiring enough to draw me back to it from time to time.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sirkowski</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386343</link>
		<dc:creator>Sirkowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386343</guid>
		<description>I&#039;ll wait for the porn version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll wait for the porn version.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Chris Shaver</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386330</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Shaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386330</guid>
		<description> I think regression has been arguably popular before, particularly during periods of uncertainty. I heard a McLuhan lecture once in which he claimed that the trend of wearing jeans in American fashion started as a kind of inverted nostalgia, meant to refer to the clothes of agrarian, pre-industrial, life. By wearing jeans, people were taking on the roll of the clown, mocking their own context. He said that it was a consequence of seeing no clear future. 

I cannot help but think that, whereas in the late 20th century there was an increasing interest in progress, new identities, new ideas, broadening of horizons, and breaking out of old boundaries, in the beginning of the 21st century there has been a mounting confusion, cynicism, and ultimately anxiety about progress itself that has driven popular trends in art, music, and culture to lose interest in progress and take on nostalgia as the clown in despair; to take on the naivete of childhood in the late 20th century and reproduce it sarcastically (&quot;ironically&quot;) as a way of expressing confusion and uncertainty about the ambiguity of the future.

I also cannot help but think this is a consequence of media, thinking of McLuhan again. Media has changed enormously in the past 20 years and while it initially went through its phase of early adoption and novelty in the late 90&#039;s and early 00&#039;s, its become part of everybody&#039;s life now and there is a kind of backlash to it since people have not fully adapted to it and understood it as a new language. When new media flooded into the culture of the early 20th century, in America for instance, a similar hysteria arose as a response. On the timescale of cultural and social changes, the internet, cell phones, and other 21st century media have emerged very suddenly, and opened the door for enormous amounts of progress, but I do not think people have largely, even young people, learned yet to understand themselves as subjects in this new world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I think regression has been arguably popular before, particularly during periods of uncertainty. I heard a McLuhan lecture once in which he claimed that the trend of wearing jeans in American fashion started as a kind of inverted nostalgia, meant to refer to the clothes of agrarian, pre-industrial, life. By wearing jeans, people were taking on the roll of the clown, mocking their own context. He said that it was a consequence of seeing no clear future. </p>
<p>I cannot help but think that, whereas in the late 20th century there was an increasing interest in progress, new identities, new ideas, broadening of horizons, and breaking out of old boundaries, in the beginning of the 21st century there has been a mounting confusion, cynicism, and ultimately anxiety about progress itself that has driven popular trends in art, music, and culture to lose interest in progress and take on nostalgia as the clown in despair; to take on the naivete of childhood in the late 20th century and reproduce it sarcastically (&#8220;ironically&#8221;) as a way of expressing confusion and uncertainty about the ambiguity of the future.</p>
<p>I also cannot help but think this is a consequence of media, thinking of McLuhan again. Media has changed enormously in the past 20 years and while it initially went through its phase of early adoption and novelty in the late 90&#8242;s and early 00&#8242;s, its become part of everybody&#8217;s life now and there is a kind of backlash to it since people have not fully adapted to it and understood it as a new language. When new media flooded into the culture of the early 20th century, in America for instance, a similar hysteria arose as a response. On the timescale of cultural and social changes, the internet, cell phones, and other 21st century media have emerged very suddenly, and opened the door for enormous amounts of progress, but I do not think people have largely, even young people, learned yet to understand themselves as subjects in this new world.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JamesMcDaniel</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386325</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesMcDaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386325</guid>
		<description>Anything pixelated is clearly retro, despite claims to the contrary. I&#039;m just trying to determine whether 8-bit or 16-bit consoles are the primary source of inspiration. The various factions, rivalries and aesthetic differences in the video-game world probably mirror that of other art movements. Maybe all of the video game eras will eventually become NA sub-genres? 
* Arcade
* Atari
* Nintendo
* SNES
* Playstation
* Xbox

</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything pixelated is clearly retro, despite claims to the contrary. I&#8217;m just trying to determine whether 8-bit or 16-bit consoles are the primary source of inspiration. The various factions, rivalries and aesthetic differences in the video-game world probably mirror that of other art movements. Maybe all of the video game eras will eventually become NA sub-genres? <br />
* Arcade<br />
* Atari<br />
* Nintendo<br />
* SNES<br />
* Playstation<br />
* Xbox</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Noctilucent Studios</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386324</link>
		<dc:creator>Noctilucent Studios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386324</guid>
		<description>Have you been on one of those jets that has a screen showing the views from multiple cameras outside the plane? I can think of nothing cooler for in flight entertainment. I think those should be standard on EVERY flight. I hear they have them on Emirates Air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you been on one of those jets that has a screen showing the views from multiple cameras outside the plane? I can think of nothing cooler for in flight entertainment. I think those should be standard on EVERY flight. I hear they have them on Emirates Air.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Alistair Stray</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386304</link>
		<dc:creator>Alistair Stray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386304</guid>
		<description>Sorry, but where the hell is the &#039;new&#039; here ? Have you not seen any of the digital art of the last 20-30 odd years ? Have you not read any art theory at all either ? How does this differ say to the approaches of the Situationists, or Pop art ? Just being digital doesn&#039;t make it new either. I am a digital artist btw.  

Creating, or arguing for, any form of categorisation on art, or a group of artists, is to create limitations on interpretation and even more annoyingly limitations on creativity. You&#039;re basically arguing for and creating a manifesto in a &#039;do it like this, or you&#039;re doing it wrong&#039; sense. Frankly, modern art, in all of its mediums, has grown out of such immaturity. Please catch up. Admittedly a lot of Digital Art has been, and continues to be.. um.. kind of structuralist in nature in that there are many examples where the medium itself is the expression as much as any of the affects of the art itself. Anyway, why we&#039;re all swapping texts, try mine, I am at least a digital artist. Note how I don&#039;t try to create rigid aesthetic categories of art, but try instead to argue for different and more open approaches to interpretation and understanding of the process of creating art in the digital form. Its not a great text, the conclusions need tightening up.. but hey, I want to play too. Stop yer bloody pigeonholing, what you see is what you see, its not a good thing to make others see it as you see it. Beauty within the limitations of the medium you say ? Yep, we&#039;ve all been talking about that for many, many years and not just in the digital medium either. I cover the limitations in my essay, from the point of view of a practitioner. Check out the sections on Strata and Assemblages.

http://independent.academia.edu/AlistairStray/Papers/724293/What_is_said_and_what_is_done_Creating_Art_in_Digital_Space_its_Strata_and_Assemblages</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but where the hell is the &#8216;new&#8217; here ? Have you not seen any of the digital art of the last 20-30 odd years ? Have you not read any art theory at all either ? How does this differ say to the approaches of the Situationists, or Pop art ? Just being digital doesn&#8217;t make it new either. I am a digital artist btw.  </p>
<p>Creating, or arguing for, any form of categorisation on art, or a group of artists, is to create limitations on interpretation and even more annoyingly limitations on creativity. You&#8217;re basically arguing for and creating a manifesto in a &#8216;do it like this, or you&#8217;re doing it wrong&#8217; sense. Frankly, modern art, in all of its mediums, has grown out of such immaturity. Please catch up. Admittedly a lot of Digital Art has been, and continues to be.. um.. kind of structuralist in nature in that there are many examples where the medium itself is the expression as much as any of the affects of the art itself. Anyway, why we&#8217;re all swapping texts, try mine, I am at least a digital artist. Note how I don&#8217;t try to create rigid aesthetic categories of art, but try instead to argue for different and more open approaches to interpretation and understanding of the process of creating art in the digital form. Its not a great text, the conclusions need tightening up.. but hey, I want to play too. Stop yer bloody pigeonholing, what you see is what you see, its not a good thing to make others see it as you see it. Beauty within the limitations of the medium you say ? Yep, we&#8217;ve all been talking about that for many, many years and not just in the digital medium either. I cover the limitations in my essay, from the point of view of a practitioner. Check out the sections on Strata and Assemblages.</p>
<p><a href="http://independent.academia.edu/AlistairStray/Papers/724293/What_is_said_and_what_is_done_Creating_Art_in_Digital_Space_its_Strata_and_Assemblages" rel="nofollow">http://independent.academia.edu/AlistairStray/Papers/724293/What_is_said_and_what_is_done_Creating_Art_in_Digital_Space_its_Strata_and_Assemblages</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Improbus Liber</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386269</link>
		<dc:creator>Improbus Liber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 14:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386269</guid>
		<description> two words:

Nina Hartley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> two words:</p>
<p>Nina Hartley</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: noahantdragon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386267</link>
		<dc:creator>noahantdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 14:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386267</guid>
		<description>http://www.manetas.com/js/jesusswimming.swf </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.manetas.com/js/jesusswimming.swf" rel="nofollow">http://www.manetas.com/js/jesusswimming.swf</a> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Remus Shepherd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386265</link>
		<dc:creator>Remus Shepherd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 14:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386265</guid>
		<description>I wrote up a summary of Bruce&#039;s essay &lt;a href=&quot;http://remus-shepherd.livejournal.com/354140.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;on my livejournal,&lt;/a&gt; with some added insight.  I think the New Aesthetic can be traced from Postmodernism straight through Proto-surrealism, in a kind of unified theory of art movements.  The New Aesthetic itself doesn&#039;t impress me too much (except for the possibility that I may have had a tiny hand in starting it!) but what comes next may be terribly exciting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote up a summary of Bruce&#8217;s essay <a href="http://remus-shepherd.livejournal.com/354140.html" rel="nofollow">on my livejournal,</a> with some added insight.  I think the New Aesthetic can be traced from Postmodernism straight through Proto-surrealism, in a kind of unified theory of art movements.  The New Aesthetic itself doesn&#8217;t impress me too much (except for the possibility that I may have had a tiny hand in starting it!) but what comes next may be terribly exciting.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: avraamov</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386264</link>
		<dc:creator>avraamov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 14:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386264</guid>
		<description>yeah - love it or loathe it, it completely nails hoxton. although dalston is the new hoxton now, of course. i&#039;ve even heard tell from friends of penny farthings being ridden to go with the handlebar moustaches..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah &#8211; love it or loathe it, it completely nails hoxton. although dalston is the new hoxton now, of course. i&#8217;ve even heard tell from friends of penny farthings being ridden to go with the handlebar moustaches..</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: noahantdragon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386249</link>
		<dc:creator>noahantdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 14:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386249</guid>
		<description>bring back neen - all will forget... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bring back neen &#8211; all will forget&#8230; </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ambiguity</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/bruce-sterlings-critique-and.html#comment-1386230</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambiguity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=152644#comment-1386230</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s been named, so now it&#039;s doomed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I think it&#039;s a mixed bag. Without commenting directly on the &quot;New Aesthetic&quot; (which I&#039;d never heard of until right now), whenever something becomes a &quot;thing&quot; you get a lot more people working within the idiom. Inevitably the increased focus and awareness leads to come cool expressions, but it also brings in a lot derivative posing.

Does the signal to noise go down once something&#039;s a &quot;thing?&quot; Probably. But if you&#039;re willing to wade through the muck, some cool stuff will be found.

These are just general comments on movements (or Movements), but I imagine the New Aesthetic will be no different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s been named, so now it&#8217;s doomed.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a mixed bag. Without commenting directly on the &#8220;New Aesthetic&#8221; (which I&#8217;d never heard of until right now), whenever something becomes a &#8220;thing&#8221; you get a lot more people working within the idiom. Inevitably the increased focus and awareness leads to come cool expressions, but it also brings in a lot derivative posing.</p>
<p>Does the signal to noise go down once something&#8217;s a &#8220;thing?&#8221; Probably. But if you&#8217;re willing to wade through the muck, some cool stuff will be found.</p>
<p>These are just general comments on movements (or Movements), but I imagine the New Aesthetic will be no different.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
