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	<title>Comments on: Latin American leaders, Obama to discuss ending the war on&#160;drugs</title>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/08/latinamerican-leaders-obama-t.html#comment-1394348</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with what you&#039;re saying to a point. Laws are there to protect us from bad decisions. However do we really need laws to protect ourselves from our own personal bad decisions or just bad decisions that harm other people.

This is where drug use laws fail on my set of morals. Sure you can argue that drug use leads to other people suffering, but most of the causes of this suffering are no different to the suffering of families married to alcoholics, or gambling addicts; or there are laws that already cover the actual crimes committed i.e. addicts that steal to cover the cost of their habbits. 

The drug use laws themselves have no place in any just society as far as I&#039;m concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what you&#8217;re saying to a point. Laws are there to protect us from bad decisions. However do we really need laws to protect ourselves from our own personal bad decisions or just bad decisions that harm other people.</p>
<p>This is where drug use laws fail on my set of morals. Sure you can argue that drug use leads to other people suffering, but most of the causes of this suffering are no different to the suffering of families married to alcoholics, or gambling addicts; or there are laws that already cover the actual crimes committed i.e. addicts that steal to cover the cost of their habbits. </p>
<p>The drug use laws themselves have no place in any just society as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/08/latinamerican-leaders-obama-t.html#comment-1394340</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;d have competitors in an and industry they currently have no stock in whatsoever, so there is very good reason they&#039;d support a change. 

Their place in the Tobacco market wouldn&#039;t change, except that their economies of scale would become even greater (shipping, warehousing, etc).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;d have competitors in an and industry they currently have no stock in whatsoever, so there is very good reason they&#8217;d support a change. </p>
<p>Their place in the Tobacco market wouldn&#8217;t change, except that their economies of scale would become even greater (shipping, warehousing, etc).</p>
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		<title>By: Preston McDonald</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/08/latinamerican-leaders-obama-t.html#comment-1393506</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I forget the original quote, and I generally find quotes stupid, but here goes.  &quot;Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I forget the original quote, and I generally find quotes stupid, but here goes.  &#8220;Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Preston McDonald</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/08/latinamerican-leaders-obama-t.html#comment-1393502</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I don&#039;t know anything about Johnson, but Paul is totally unthinkable as a candidate.  Sure, he occasionally says sensible things about drugs and foreign policy.  But those moments of lucidity are a light sprinkling of sugar on top of his frothy porridge of Objectivism, gold-buggery, Austrian economics, thinly veiled racism, and general Randroid nonsense.  He is a loon, and his policies would be a disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I don&#8217;t know anything about Johnson, but Paul is totally unthinkable as a candidate.  Sure, he occasionally says sensible things about drugs and foreign policy.  But those moments of lucidity are a light sprinkling of sugar on top of his frothy porridge of Objectivism, gold-buggery, Austrian economics, thinly veiled racism, and general Randroid nonsense.  He is a loon, and his policies would be a disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: PNWchemist</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/08/latinamerican-leaders-obama-t.html#comment-1391730</link>
		<dc:creator>PNWchemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 11:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MDMA, and coke now, none of the young people i know do meth (though some have)

oddly these street drugs don&#039;t seem to be half as addictive as prescription opiates, Oxy Cotin is a hellva a drug. 

But marijuana is the the favorite among everyone i know, even the folks who&#039;ve done everything, because it makes you feel better even after you come down.  

I bet most of big money is being made on MDMA and party drugs mixed with it and pressed into tablets. The pills are expensive, and the consumer doesn&#039;t know anything about what&#039;s actually in them. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MDMA, and coke now, none of the young people i know do meth (though some have)</p>
<p>oddly these street drugs don&#8217;t seem to be half as addictive as prescription opiates, Oxy Cotin is a hellva a drug. </p>
<p>But marijuana is the the favorite among everyone i know, even the folks who&#8217;ve done everything, because it makes you feel better even after you come down.  </p>
<p>I bet most of big money is being made on MDMA and party drugs mixed with it and pressed into tablets. The pills are expensive, and the consumer doesn&#8217;t know anything about what&#8217;s actually in them. </p>
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		<title>By: Patrick McGorrill</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/08/latinamerican-leaders-obama-t.html#comment-1391639</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick McGorrill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like Latin America has an argument rooted in military tactics. They have to deal with organizations competing with governments for control of their countries, and those organizations get their money from illicit drug trade. Making the drug trade licit would knock out a major revenue stream. It isn&#039;t about the addicts, they&#039;re a separate issue (and besides I&#039;m not convinced that changing who supplies the drugs will have a big impact on drug addiction), it&#039;s about ending a bloody war. amirite? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like Latin America has an argument rooted in military tactics. They have to deal with organizations competing with governments for control of their countries, and those organizations get their money from illicit drug trade. Making the drug trade licit would knock out a major revenue stream. It isn&#8217;t about the addicts, they&#8217;re a separate issue (and besides I&#8217;m not convinced that changing who supplies the drugs will have a big impact on drug addiction), it&#8217;s about ending a bloody war. amirite? </p>
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		<title>By: James B</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/08/latinamerican-leaders-obama-t.html#comment-1391352</link>
		<dc:creator>James B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 22:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But hopefully you get my point about trying to put yourself in the position of somebody that doesn&#039;t support legalizing everything.  If you were in that position, what would convince you to change your mind?  Try and convince me.  Keep in mind, I&#039;ve seen people hunched over in the corner of a shabby trailer shooting cocaine, other people who can&#039;t function in society 25 years after their last dose, lives destroyed by opiates, and people on the border of insanity from decades of smoking up.

So I&#039;m not saying these things shouldn&#039;t all be legal, but the &quot;it is just a harmless plant&quot; arguments are weak.  A strong argument should comprehend the range of problems associated with (all) drug use, and carefully weigh the personal and social harm the current policy causes with the potential benefit of changes to the policy.   From what I have seen, I can&#039;t make a compelling argument rooted in anything other than how I interpret the Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But hopefully you get my point about trying to put yourself in the position of somebody that doesn&#8217;t support legalizing everything.  If you were in that position, what would convince you to change your mind?  Try and convince me.  Keep in mind, I&#8217;ve seen people hunched over in the corner of a shabby trailer shooting cocaine, other people who can&#8217;t function in society 25 years after their last dose, lives destroyed by opiates, and people on the border of insanity from decades of smoking up.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not saying these things shouldn&#8217;t all be legal, but the &#8220;it is just a harmless plant&#8221; arguments are weak.  A strong argument should comprehend the range of problems associated with (all) drug use, and carefully weigh the personal and social harm the current policy causes with the potential benefit of changes to the policy.   From what I have seen, I can&#8217;t make a compelling argument rooted in anything other than how I interpret the Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: h4x0r</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/08/latinamerican-leaders-obama-t.html#comment-1391233</link>
		<dc:creator>h4x0r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of otherwise unemployable people around the world depend on jobs that exist because of the international illegal drug trade. President Obama knows this, the CIA knows this...other countries know this....I don&#039;t see much being done here other than a few pats on the back and some tough talk. Then it will be business as usual.

The global market just ain&#039;t ready for millions who used to have an income......to just be suddenly dependent on their governments to bail &#039;em all out or solve their financial woes. Not in this economic climate.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of otherwise unemployable people around the world depend on jobs that exist because of the international illegal drug trade. President Obama knows this, the CIA knows this&#8230;other countries know this&#8230;.I don&#8217;t see much being done here other than a few pats on the back and some tough talk. Then it will be business as usual.</p>
<p>The global market just ain&#8217;t ready for millions who used to have an income&#8230;&#8230;to just be suddenly dependent on their governments to bail &#8216;em all out or solve their financial woes. Not in this economic climate.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/08/latinamerican-leaders-obama-t.html#comment-1391179</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Look at your personal views on cocaine, opiates, and synthetic hallucinogens.  Ask yourself:  do you really want to live in a world where there is easy legal access to all of those things as well?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Funnily enough, yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Look at your personal views on cocaine, opiates, and synthetic hallucinogens.  Ask yourself:  do you really want to live in a world where there is easy legal access to all of those things as well?</p></blockquote>
<p>Funnily enough, yes.</p>
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		<title>By: LeFabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeFabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> All that shit was legalized in Portugal 3 years ago and drug use went down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> All that shit was legalized in Portugal 3 years ago and drug use went down.</p>
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		<title>By: LeFabe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/08/latinamerican-leaders-obama-t.html#comment-1391150</link>
		<dc:creator>LeFabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Drug gangs aren&#039;t getting rich selling weed. Theyre getting rich and killing people because of coke and meth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Drug gangs aren&#8217;t getting rich selling weed. Theyre getting rich and killing people because of coke and meth.</p>
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		<title>By: keplers</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/08/latinamerican-leaders-obama-t.html#comment-1390934</link>
		<dc:creator>keplers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no we can&#039;t. barack obama isn&#039;t the president of the local pta, he&#039;s the president of the united states. stop making excuses and portraying him as helpless - accountability still matters to some of us. last week i watched oaksterdam university in oakland get raided by the feds and i won&#039;t give obama anything but the scorn he rightly deserves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no we can&#8217;t. barack obama isn&#8217;t the president of the local pta, he&#8217;s the president of the united states. stop making excuses and portraying him as helpless &#8211; accountability still matters to some of us. last week i watched oaksterdam university in oakland get raided by the feds and i won&#8217;t give obama anything but the scorn he rightly deserves.</p>
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		<title>By: keplers</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/08/latinamerican-leaders-obama-t.html#comment-1390923</link>
		<dc:creator>keplers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dream on because nothing&#039;s changing.  the u.s. never ends a war. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dream on because nothing&#8217;s changing.  the u.s. never ends a war. </p>
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		<title>By: James B</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/08/latinamerican-leaders-obama-t.html#comment-1390916</link>
		<dc:creator>James B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;all get that this isn&#039;t just about legalizing MJ, this is about cocaine, and  in a big way.  Want a little perspective on why the old people don&#039;t want to legalize reefer?  Look at your personal views on cocaine, opiates, and synthetic hallucinogens.  Ask yourself:  do you really want to live in a world where there is easy legal access to all of those things as well?  My personal views on this are very libertarian.  I&#039;m mostly just trying to help some of you form better arguments by giving you some things to think about.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;all get that this isn&#8217;t just about legalizing MJ, this is about cocaine, and  in a big way.  Want a little perspective on why the old people don&#8217;t want to legalize reefer?  Look at your personal views on cocaine, opiates, and synthetic hallucinogens.  Ask yourself:  do you really want to live in a world where there is easy legal access to all of those things as well?  My personal views on this are very libertarian.  I&#8217;m mostly just trying to help some of you form better arguments by giving you some things to think about.  </p>
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		<title>By: gadgetphile</title>
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		<dc:creator>gadgetphile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 16:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We&#039;re going to turn this team around 360 degrees.&quot;
http://www.searchquotes.com/quotation/Were_going_to_turn_this_team_around_360_degrees./291488/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re going to turn this team around 360 degrees.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.searchquotes.com/quotation/Were_going_to_turn_this_team_around_360_degrees./291488/" rel="nofollow">http://www.searchquotes.com/quotation/Were_going_to_turn_this_team_around_360_degrees./291488/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Austin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/08/latinamerican-leaders-obama-t.html#comment-1390863</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 16:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was locked up, we used to joke that the Feds weren&#039;t going to let out any drug dealers until they needed the room for the political prisoners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was locked up, we used to joke that the Feds weren&#8217;t going to let out any drug dealers until they needed the room for the political prisoners.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 13:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> No they likely won&#039;t. But the &quot;small government, especially in personal matters&quot; libertarians will. How&#039;s that whole Hope and Change thing working out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> No they likely won&#8217;t. But the &#8220;small government, especially in personal matters&#8221; libertarians will. How&#8217;s that whole Hope and Change thing working out?</p>
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		<title>By: Jardine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 11:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s so cute that you think the Democrats aren&#039;t right-wing. You have the party that&#039;s far to the right and then you have Republicans. Who are even farther to the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s so cute that you think the Democrats aren&#8217;t right-wing. You have the party that&#8217;s far to the right and then you have Republicans. Who are even farther to the right.</p>
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		<title>By: OgilvyTheAstronomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>OgilvyTheAstronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 11:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;DRUGS WIN WAR ON DRUGS&quot;

As almost always, reality imitates The Onion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;DRUGS WIN WAR ON DRUGS&#8221;</p>
<p>As almost always, reality imitates The Onion.</p>
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		<title>By: malcolmkyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>malcolmkyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 09:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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The future depends on whether or not enough of us are willing to take a long look at the tragic results of prohibition. If we continue to skirt the primary issue while refusing to address the root problem then we can expect no other result than a worsening of the current dire situation. - Good intentions, wishful thinking and pseudoscience are no match for the immutable realities of human nature.



* Many important advancements in human society (even the reasonable requirement that gynecologists wash their hands before examining a patient) have been vehemently resisted by unconscionable, selfish individuals who were willing to use outright mendacity, specious logic and fear mongering to sacrifice the well-being of the rest of us.



Never have so many been endangered and impoverished by so few so quickly!



* The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-face for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken (1880-1956) American editor, essayist and philologist.





* 2010 Reported Corporate Revenues:



    Johnson &amp; Johnson = $61.90 billion

    Pfizer= $50.01 billion

    GlaxoSmithKline = $45.83 billion

    Novartis = $44.27

    Sanofi-Aventis = $41.99 billion

    AstraZeneca = $32.81 billion

    Merck &amp; Co. = $27.43 billion

    Eli Lilly = $21.84 billion

    Anheuser-Busch InBev (2007) = $16.70 billion

    MillerCoors = $3.03 billion

    Pabst = $0.50 billion



* As with torture, prohibition is a grievous crime against humanity. If you support it, or even simply tolerate it by looking the other way while others commit it, you are an accessory to a very serious moral transgression against humanity.



* The United States re-legalized certain drug use in 1933. The drug was alcohol, and the 21st amendment re-legalized its production, distribution and sale. Both alcohol consumption and violent crime dropped immediately as a result, and very soon after, the American economy climbed out of that same prohibition engendered abyss into which it had foolishly fallen.  



“You can always count on Americans to do the right thing, after they’ve tried everything else.” 

- Winston Churchill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The future depends on whether or not enough of us are willing to take a long look at the tragic results of prohibition. If we continue to skirt the primary issue while refusing to address the root problem then we can expect no other result than a worsening of the current dire situation. &#8211; Good intentions, wishful thinking and pseudoscience are no match for the immutable realities of human nature.</p>
<p>* Many important advancements in human society (even the reasonable requirement that gynecologists wash their hands before examining a patient) have been vehemently resisted by unconscionable, selfish individuals who were willing to use outright mendacity, specious logic and fear mongering to sacrifice the well-being of the rest of us.</p>
<p>Never have so many been endangered and impoverished by so few so quickly!</p>
<p>* The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-face for the urge to rule it. &#8211; H. L. Mencken (1880-1956) American editor, essayist and philologist.</p>
<p>* 2010 Reported Corporate Revenues:</p>
<p>    Johnson &amp; Johnson = $61.90 billion</p>
<p>    Pfizer= $50.01 billion</p>
<p>    GlaxoSmithKline = $45.83 billion</p>
<p>    Novartis = $44.27</p>
<p>    Sanofi-Aventis = $41.99 billion</p>
<p>    AstraZeneca = $32.81 billion</p>
<p>    Merck &amp; Co. = $27.43 billion</p>
<p>    Eli Lilly = $21.84 billion</p>
<p>    Anheuser-Busch InBev (2007) = $16.70 billion</p>
<p>    MillerCoors = $3.03 billion</p>
<p>    Pabst = $0.50 billion</p>
<p>* As with torture, prohibition is a grievous crime against humanity. If you support it, or even simply tolerate it by looking the other way while others commit it, you are an accessory to a very serious moral transgression against humanity.</p>
<p>* The United States re-legalized certain drug use in 1933. The drug was alcohol, and the 21st amendment re-legalized its production, distribution and sale. Both alcohol consumption and violent crime dropped immediately as a result, and very soon after, the American economy climbed out of that same prohibition engendered abyss into which it had foolishly fallen.  </p>
<p>“You can always count on Americans to do the right thing, after they’ve tried everything else.” </p>
<p>- Winston Churchill</p>
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		<title>By: awjt</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 09:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, I thought we just owned the world outright?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, I thought we just owned the world outright?</p>
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		<title>By: awjt</title>
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		<dc:creator>awjt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 09:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the owners of this country won&#039;t let it end, or it would have ended long ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the owners of this country won&#8217;t let it end, or it would have ended long ago.</p>
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		<title>By: wooodster</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very principle behind the existence of laws, police or the justice system is that citizens aren&#039;t able to make the right decisions all the time, even where their own safety is concerned.


This is why, for example, there is a law that forces people to take driving lessons and obtain a driving license before they can drive a car on public road. The legislator observed that people weren&#039;t wise enough to do these things on their own.


Whether the legislator is right or wrong is another matter, but these are the principles on which the system works : sometimes citizens need to be protected from themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very principle behind the existence of laws, police or the justice system is that citizens aren&#8217;t able to make the right decisions all the time, even where their own safety is concerned.</p>
<p>This is why, for example, there is a law that forces people to take driving lessons and obtain a driving license before they can drive a car on public road. The legislator observed that people weren&#8217;t wise enough to do these things on their own.</p>
<p>Whether the legislator is right or wrong is another matter, but these are the principles on which the system works : sometimes citizens need to be protected from themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: niktemadur</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 07:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few Latin America countries, like Mexico and Colombia, have recently de-criminalized personal possession of small amounts of drugs, subject to a fine as opposed to arrest, the rationale being that there&#039;s more pressing priorities for the cops to attend to, than a guy or a girl with a joint in the park.  Or a bunch of kids with their hits of ecstasy at a rave, for that matter.

Thing is, the US seemed to take a few solid steps of its&#039; own with the legalization of medical ganja in some states, but then suddenly a big, strange slide backwards started happening, such as raids and the IRS throwing the book at ganja dispensers, under a president who said he wouldn&#039;t do this.

So cynicism may be justifiable in this 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few Latin America countries, like Mexico and Colombia, have recently de-criminalized personal possession of small amounts of drugs, subject to a fine as opposed to arrest, the rationale being that there&#8217;s more pressing priorities for the cops to attend to, than a guy or a girl with a joint in the park.  Or a bunch of kids with their hits of ecstasy at a rave, for that matter.</p>
<p>Thing is, the US seemed to take a few solid steps of its&#8217; own with the legalization of medical ganja in some states, but then suddenly a big, strange slide backwards started happening, such as raids and the IRS throwing the book at ganja dispensers, under a president who said he wouldn&#8217;t do this.</p>
<p>So cynicism may be justifiable in this 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: toyg</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 07:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I don&#039;t harbour any hope, I said &quot;if he really wanted to&quot; -- chances are that he doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I don&#8217;t harbour any hope, I said &#8220;if he really wanted to&#8221; &#8212; chances are that he doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: niktemadur</title>
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		<dc:creator>niktemadur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 06:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cynic in me is afraid a closer analogy would be turning a corner.  Again.  For the fourth time, in fact.  For the fourth time, again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cynic in me is afraid a closer analogy would be turning a corner.  Again.  For the fourth time, in fact.  For the fourth time, again.</p>
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		<title>By: chris o</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 05:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> you might want to say this........&quot;and selling a drug that rates below coffee in terms of harm.  substitute coffee for alcohol and you have a more accurate statement...........marijuana is even below coffee  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> you might want to say this&#8230;&#8230;..&#8221;and selling a drug that rates below coffee in terms of harm.  substitute coffee for alcohol and you have a more accurate statement&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..marijuana is even below coffee  </p>
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		<title>By: rprivetera</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 05:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here let me fix this for you:
The &quot;small government, except in personal matters&quot;  supposed conservatives and the &quot;progressive social freedom loving&quot; liberals aren&#039;t going to give up the notion that it&#039;s perfectly okay for the government to legislate what is an acceptable state of consciousness anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here let me fix this for you:<br />
The &#8220;small government, except in personal matters&#8221;  supposed conservatives and the &#8220;progressive social freedom loving&#8221; liberals aren&#8217;t going to give up the notion that it&#8217;s perfectly okay for the government to legislate what is an acceptable state of consciousness anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Rindan</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 04:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The medical marijuana raids are more than campaign rhetoric.  Romney doesn&#039;t wan&#039;t to be pulled into talking about medical marijuana anymore than he wants to be pulled into talking about contraception.  It is an issue where the more you talk, the more you sound like an asshole.  Romney isn&#039;t going to stand up and shake his finger at Obama because he hasn&#039;t been crushing enough hippy skulls.  He is going to avoid the topic entirely, as will Obama.

There was no political advantage to busting on the medical marijuana facilities in states where it is legal.  It actually has exactly the opposite effect in that it badly demoralizes Obama&#039;s base.  A demoralized base says &quot;ahh fuck it, they are all the same, I&#039;m not voting&quot;, and they sure as hell don&#039;t pound ground and knock on doors for your campaign.  

Obama isn&#039;t going to convince anyone to vote for him over a medical marijuana raid, but he sure as shit is going to demoralize his base and lose voters in his own camp who opt to simply not vote.  For that reason, I don&#039;t think that this is some clever scheme on Obama&#039;s part to drum up votes so that in his second term he will usher in an era of sane policy.  I think he is just a hypocritical asshole who can happily smoke pot and then order government agents to crack the skulls of people who have done the same thing he has done without remorse or even recognizing that it is wrong.  He is better than Romney for sure, but that isn&#039;t saying much.

Thankfully, I live in lovely Massachusetts.  Due to the electoral college system my vote literally does not count.  If Obama losses Massachusetts, he also lost 48 other states.  I&#039;ll be voting for one of the pot smoking third parties with a clear conscience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The medical marijuana raids are more than campaign rhetoric.  Romney doesn&#8217;t wan&#8217;t to be pulled into talking about medical marijuana anymore than he wants to be pulled into talking about contraception.  It is an issue where the more you talk, the more you sound like an asshole.  Romney isn&#8217;t going to stand up and shake his finger at Obama because he hasn&#8217;t been crushing enough hippy skulls.  He is going to avoid the topic entirely, as will Obama.</p>
<p>There was no political advantage to busting on the medical marijuana facilities in states where it is legal.  It actually has exactly the opposite effect in that it badly demoralizes Obama&#8217;s base.  A demoralized base says &#8220;ahh fuck it, they are all the same, I&#8217;m not voting&#8221;, and they sure as hell don&#8217;t pound ground and knock on doors for your campaign.  </p>
<p>Obama isn&#8217;t going to convince anyone to vote for him over a medical marijuana raid, but he sure as shit is going to demoralize his base and lose voters in his own camp who opt to simply not vote.  For that reason, I don&#8217;t think that this is some clever scheme on Obama&#8217;s part to drum up votes so that in his second term he will usher in an era of sane policy.  I think he is just a hypocritical asshole who can happily smoke pot and then order government agents to crack the skulls of people who have done the same thing he has done without remorse or even recognizing that it is wrong.  He is better than Romney for sure, but that isn&#8217;t saying much.</p>
<p>Thankfully, I live in lovely Massachusetts.  Due to the electoral college system my vote literally does not count.  If Obama losses Massachusetts, he also lost 48 other states.  I&#8217;ll be voting for one of the pot smoking third parties with a clear conscience.</p>
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		<title>By: John Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 04:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory,

I&#039;d love to see the block quote contextualized a bit better. From how you set it up, the &quot;he&quot; in the first paragraph is President Obama.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see the block quote contextualized a bit better. From how you set it up, the &#8220;he&#8221; in the first paragraph is President Obama.</p>
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