Comments on: Tupac returns as hologram for Coachella http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 19 May 2013 03:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: MrJM http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1397123 MrJM Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1397123 THX! THX!

]]> By: noah django http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396963 noah django Tue, 17 Apr 2012 07:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396963  hey, nice work, MrJM!  hey, nice work, MrJM!

]]> By: social_maladroit http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396948 social_maladroit Tue, 17 Apr 2012 06:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396948 Tupac Back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=m5spMjy8uhc (Language = NSFW) Tupac Back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=m5spMjy8uhc
(Language = NSFW)

]]> By: daen http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396939 daen Tue, 17 Apr 2012 06:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396939 I'll just leave this here as a tribute to holograms everywhere. http://youtu.be/fTb7ZVOF-wU I’ll just leave this here as a tribute to holograms everywhere.

http://youtu.be/fTb7ZVOF-wU

]]> By: Manel http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396829 Manel Tue, 17 Apr 2012 01:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396829 Maybe Dr. Dre will bring back Easy-E for an NWA reunion for Weekend 2. Maybe Dr. Dre will bring back Easy-E for an NWA reunion for Weekend 2.

]]> By: swell http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396780 swell Tue, 17 Apr 2012 00:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396780  Just went through 5 minutes of logging in and resetting my password just to say:   that was an awesome Red Dwarf reference and made my day!  Just went through 5 minutes of logging in and resetting my password just to say:   that was an awesome Red Dwarf reference and made my day!

]]> By: MrJM http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396741 MrJM Mon, 16 Apr 2012 23:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396741 "Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope. " “Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You’re my only hope. “

]]> By: moop2000 http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396702 moop2000 Mon, 16 Apr 2012 22:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396702 So a few months ago, I attended a small symposium on the future of 3D and holographic displays, and one of the researchers provided an interesting piece of info. If we map out our current data throughput over time, and identify how much data is needed for a full 3D interactive (ie, has motion, not a still image) display, then we won't have enough data bandwidth until the year 2200. Not saying I agree, but an interesting thought to keep in mind. So a few months ago, I attended a small symposium on the future of 3D and holographic displays, and one of the researchers provided an interesting piece of info. If we map out our current data throughput over time, and identify how much data is needed for a full 3D interactive (ie, has motion, not a still image) display, then we won’t have enough data bandwidth until the year 2200. Not saying I agree, but an interesting thought to keep in mind.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396681 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396681 Tupac was muscular, but he wasn't <i>that</i> muscular. Tupac was muscular, but he wasn’t that muscular.

]]> By: penguinchris http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396675 penguinchris Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396675 If it is an impersonator, it's much easier to pass it off as actually being Tupac if it's a hologram. They're not trying to imply that Tupac is actually still alive, and having an impersonator live would just be lame. I think it's just as likely, though, that this is actual footage of him, cleverly extracted from the front-facing camera from some concert footage. If you look closely it's not perfect, and I think if they were doing it from scratch with an impersonator it would be possible to get a better effect. I was watching this live last night and what intrigued me the most was how Snoop Dogg managed to stay in sync with the Tupac recording - he appeared to smoke massive amounts of marijuana throughout the concert (though I suppose it was probably actually just tobacco and he was just <i>acting</i> being high as a kite). If it is an impersonator, it’s much easier to pass it off as actually being Tupac if it’s a hologram. They’re not trying to imply that Tupac is actually still alive, and having an impersonator live would just be lame.

I think it’s just as likely, though, that this is actual footage of him, cleverly extracted from the front-facing camera from some concert footage. If you look closely it’s not perfect, and I think if they were doing it from scratch with an impersonator it would be possible to get a better effect.

I was watching this live last night and what intrigued me the most was how Snoop Dogg managed to stay in sync with the Tupac recording – he appeared to smoke massive amounts of marijuana throughout the concert (though I suppose it was probably actually just tobacco and he was just acting being high as a kite).

]]> By: Kozmund http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396603 Kozmund Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396603 Great, now labels are going to start adding clauses to their boiler plate explicitly allowing for the artist to be simulated for 75 years after their death. "By signing, you grant us permission to figuratively rob your grave." Great, now labels are going to start adding clauses to their boiler plate explicitly allowing for the artist to be simulated for 75 years after their death. “By signing, you grant us permission to figuratively rob your grave.”

]]> By: noah django http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396575 noah django Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:14:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396575 wake me when there's a holographic Guru http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFQQeUNaZtc wake me when there’s a holographic Guru
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFQQeUNaZtc

]]> By: Shinkuhadoken http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396566 Shinkuhadoken Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396566 "Please state the nature of the medical emergency." Oops, wrong hologram. “Please state the nature of the medical emergency.”

Oops, wrong hologram.

]]> By: ultranoia http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396558 ultranoia Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396558 Not a real hologram. The company behind the Musion rear-screen projection tech (AV Concepts) are publicly taking credit for the 2D projection used in the Tupac resurrection: http://www.avconcepts.com/coachella-2012-3/ And they credit Digital Domain for the CG ("Digital Domain... delivered the life-like imagery"). Sadly, there will never be a holodeck. Not a real hologram. The company behind the Musion rear-screen projection tech (AV Concepts) are publicly taking credit for the 2D projection used in the Tupac resurrection:
http://www.avconcepts.com/coachella-2012-3/

And they credit Digital Domain for the CG (“Digital Domain… delivered the life-like imagery”). Sadly, there will never be a holodeck.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396528 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:47:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396528 Well, death certainly didn't stop him from continuing to release albums. Well, death certainly didn’t stop him from continuing to release albums.

]]> By: MrEricSir http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396514 MrEricSir Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396514 How long before Michael Jackson is holo-resurrected? How long before Michael Jackson is holo-resurrected?

]]> By: GT http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396507 GT Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396507 Not sure if Tupac is alive, or if we're all dead. Not sure if Tupac is alive, or if we’re all dead.

]]> By: George Miller http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396503 George Miller Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396503 Because then he couldn't disappear into golden dust!! Because then he couldn’t disappear into golden dust!!

]]> By: tristan eldritch http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396484 tristan eldritch Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396484 Wow, never heard of this (or Wagner) before, thanks for turning me on!  Seems to be a lot of it up on youtube. Wow, never heard of this (or Wagner) before, thanks for turning me on!  Seems to be a lot of it up on youtube.

]]> By: Jesse Mazer http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396480 Jesse Mazer Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396480 Yeah, it's not a hologram either, I was thinking more of the idea of projecting a 3D image directly into space a la Princess Leia when I said "the closest they can come for now". I don't know if it would even be theoretically possible to project a hologram directly into space in the same way, the light that makes up the image travels on a straight path from the recording medium to your eye so you always see the 3D image in the same line of sight as the recording medium, either apparently in front of it or apparently behind it. Though as the Pepper's Ghost illusion shows, with the right lighting conditions people may not realize they're looking through a pane of glass, so if you could have a transparent holographic display which could be updated many times per second you could create the same sort of illusion (apparently the technology for holographic displays that update many times per second <a href="http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/video-holography-0124.html" rel="nofollow">does exist</a>, but I don't know if they can make it transparent like glass), but I imagine it would be way more expensive and probably wouldn't look any better from a distance. Yeah, it’s not a hologram either, I was thinking more of the idea of projecting a 3D image directly into space a la Princess Leia when I said “the closest they can come for now”. I don’t know if it would even be theoretically possible to project a hologram directly into space in the same way, the light that makes up the image travels on a straight path from the recording medium to your eye so you always see the 3D image in the same line of sight as the recording medium, either apparently in front of it or apparently behind it. Though as the Pepper’s Ghost illusion shows, with the right lighting conditions people may not realize they’re looking through a pane of glass, so if you could have a transparent holographic display which could be updated many times per second you could create the same sort of illusion (apparently the technology for holographic displays that update many times per second does exist, but I don’t know if they can make it transparent like glass), but I imagine it would be way more expensive and probably wouldn’t look any better from a distance.

]]> By: eselqueso http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396478 eselqueso Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396478 Am I the only one who saw this and immediately pictured Futurama's heads in jars? Am I the only one who saw this and immediately pictured Futurama’s heads in jars?

]]> By: bolamig http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396458 bolamig Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396458 I think Nikohel nailed it.  I also see that Musion's web page is unreachable right now...  This reminds me of the thing at disneyland where they project images onto water mist, except replacing the water mist with a highly optimized semi-transparent screen.   Kind of like scrim cloth which has long been used in stage productions:  http://www.studio-productions-inc.com/white_papers/wp_scrim_effects.html but more evolved. I think Nikohel nailed it.  I also see that Musion’s web page is unreachable right now…  This reminds me of the thing at disneyland where they project images onto water mist, except replacing the water mist with a highly optimized semi-transparent screen.   Kind of like scrim cloth which has long been used in stage productions:  http://www.studio-productions-inc.com/white_papers/wp_scrim_effects.html but more evolved.

]]> By: Nikohel http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396448 Nikohel Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396448 The technology is called Musion and it is a basically an updated version of Pepper's Ghost where an image is reflected on some type of medium. In this case, the medium is stretched mylar angled at 45 degrees to reflect a projected image from below (you can see a little of the screen underneath). The Haunted Mansion uses large sheets of glass to reflect physical object located above and beneath the ride vehicle. The technology is called Musion and it is a basically an updated version of Pepper’s Ghost where an image is reflected on some type of medium. In this case, the medium is stretched mylar angled at 45 degrees to reflect a projected image from below (you can see a little of the screen underneath). The Haunted Mansion uses large sheets of glass to reflect physical object located above and beneath the ride vehicle.

]]> By: monopole http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396425 monopole Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396425 She's Very Gangsta http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x99lKW-Bm_Y She’s Very Gangsta

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x99lKW-Bm_Y

]]> By: Robert Cruickshank http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396426 Robert Cruickshank Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396426 I liked him better when he was Barney the Dinosaur.   Also since this is boingboing, can we please have a lengthy discussion about Pepper's Ghost, and how this is *so* not a hologram, with lots of Haunted mansion references, please? And if we bring people back to life,  can't it be the ones who  never shot anyone, and were nice to women? I liked him better when he was Barney the Dinosaur.   Also since this is boingboing, can we please have a lengthy discussion about Pepper’s Ghost, and how this is *so* not a hologram, with lots of Haunted mansion references, please? And if we bring people back to life,  can’t it be the ones who  never shot anyone, and were nice to women?

]]> By: Bryan Godwin http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396417 Bryan Godwin Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396417 Pretty sure its a CGI rendering and performance, created by artists at Digital Domain. I'd guess we'll see details on the "making of" shortly... (just a guess ;)  ) Pretty sure its a CGI rendering and performance, created by artists at Digital Domain. I’d guess we’ll see details on the “making of” shortly… (just a guess ;)  )

]]> By: Noctilucent Studios http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396389 Noctilucent Studios Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:35:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396389 What wicked Sorcery is this!?!?! What wicked Sorcery is this!?!?!

]]> By: Stephen Schenck http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396387 Stephen Schenck Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396387 How is that any closer to being a hologram? It's a 3D display, sure, but I see nothing remotely holographic about any of the technology. How is that any closer to being a hologram? It’s a 3D display, sure, but I see nothing remotely holographic about any of the technology.

]]> By: Paul Renault http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396380 Paul Renault Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396380 But, but, but it's all about keeping it REAL, man. Oh, and Rob, you forgot the link: http://www.jupitermining.com/ But, but, but it’s all about keeping it REAL, man.

Oh, and Rob, you forgot the link:
http://www.jupitermining.com/

]]> By: saint_al http://boingboing.net/2012/04/16/tupac-returns-as-hologram-for.html#comment-1396361 saint_al Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:01:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=154798#comment-1396361 "Thug afterlife".  “Thug afterlife”. 

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