Hilary Clinton to world governments: the world will divide into "open" and "closed" societies based on their Internet policies


24 Responses to “Hilary Clinton to world governments: the world will divide into "open" and "closed" societies based on their Internet policies”

  1. Werd.  Also, prove the value of OPEN societies by being involved with:

    http://spaceappschallenge.org/challenge/   The International Space Apps Challenge!

    Sure it’s spam.  But it’s spam I believe in and am not being paid to promote.  And the reality is, if you want to push openness into government incentivising it is huge.

  2. GeekMan says:

    It’s official: we now have idiocracy. 

  3. travtastic says:

    Those are Emperor Palpatine eyes. Do not like.

    • travtastic says:

      Also: “Particularly galling”? Come on. Her statements are completely consistent. They want to be on the side of closed societies, and they emphatically don’t want to create a secure society.

      Again. Look into those eyes. “The fear must flow.

  4. Or maybe the United States sees the free flow of information as destabilizing to aggressive authoritarian world powers and would like to see competing powers fall apart in exactly the way it would not like to fall apart itself.
    Liberate your enemy’s subjects and further subjugate your own subjects; it’s foolproof.

  5. ChicagoD says:

    Bitch, please.

  6. homer2324 says:

    i think it is the essence of being a democratic state.

    that’s why, across a continuum of multiple presidential election, a democratic state’s foreign policy can look schizophrenic, when compared with that of other authoritarian states.

  7. ocatagon says:

    I’m sure she believes the U.S. has the most open, uncensored, and unmonitored internet in the world.

  8. CSMcDonald says:

    Which do we have here in the US again?

  9. Cormacolinde says:

    Actually, in defense of the Obama administration’s stance on CISPA, I should link to:


  10. stupocalypto says:

    All whilst trying to extradite a British citizen for using the internet in a way they don’t like, whilst claiming jurisdiction over any .com or .net websites.

    The flagrant and cynical hypocrisy is getting a bit blunt now isn’t it?

  11. niktemadur says:

    Mrs Clinton, it’s not just governments that can open or close internets, it’s also corporations whose campaign contributions you’ve taken.

  12. Everybody’s so cynical here.

    Actually, this is not news: Clinton has been promoting the idea of Internet freedom since January 2010.  I for one commend her for this position, which is one I happen to agree with.  It may be worth reminding ourselves that as Secretary of State, she is responsible for formulating foreign policy only and has no control over US domestic policy.

    So can we really say it’s “particularly galling that Secretary Clinton made these remarks even as the US Congress is poised to pass CISPA,” or rather is her position a refreshing public counterpoint to this bill? It’s a little unfair to blame her for what Congress is doing when she’s been out of that body for over three years. (Although admittedly I am not familiar with her voting record on this issue in the Senate – perhaps it is not good. Then again, if it’s bad, maybe she’s seen the light since then.)

    Sometimes I wonder what things would have been like if Clinton had won the Democratic nomination in 2008 and the Presidency.

    • travtastic says:

      The same Clinton who said, in January of 2011: “But our assessment is that the Egyptian Government is stable and is looking for ways to respond to the legitimate needs and interests of the Egyptian people.”

    • Itsumishi says:

      “she is responsible for formulating foreign policy”

      Perhaps you missed the part where the US is using free trade agreements to strong arm nations all over the world to adopt the sorts of policies you claim she is counter-pointing.

  13. Shinkuhadoken says:

    It’s a good sentiment. I hope there are actual plans to shore up policies promoting an open internet in the face of American corporate interests who are bullying countries into removing individual freedoms for their peoples around the world, but I’m not holding my breath.

  14. “It’s particularly galling that Secretary Clinton made these remarks even as the US Congress is poised to pass CISPA, which establishes a national US regime of censorship and warrantless surveillance.”

    I don’t think it is galling. It is obvious to me that we are heading for a police state and the SoS is  telling us just that. Deep down inside those asshats in Washington know that they are dismantling everything that made this country something special, but they would rather piss away our freedoms setting up their retirement plans of working cushy jobs for homeland security and DoD contractors.

  15. suburbanhick says:

    Hypocrisy, thy name is Hilary.

  16. scythenoire says:

    She’s right, it will be split. But the USA is among the leaders at trying to create a closed internet and pushing forward internet censorship around the world.

    I’m not sure if she’s aware of this, just uniformed, an idiot, or just a huge hypocrite.

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