Comments on: Imploding iceberg in Antarctica http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 18 May 2013 12:05:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Richard Gay http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1402064 Richard Gay Sun, 22 Apr 2012 13:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1402064 It was great except for the stupid people acting like their team won. It was great except for the stupid people acting like their team won.

]]> By: Digilante http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1401026 Digilante Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1401026 Yeah, you're right. I just avoid locations where Northern Europeans vacation in Southern Europe like the plague. I remember seeing that on YouTube. Good point about Americans - they are indeed always polite and modest, they just speak a lot louder, which probably has nothing to do with any of what I wrote. Well... so that's that for generalisations. Yeah, you’re right. I just avoid locations where Northern Europeans vacation in Southern Europe like the plague. I remember seeing that on YouTube. Good point about Americans – they are indeed always polite and modest, they just speak a lot louder, which probably has nothing to do with any of what I wrote. Well… so that’s that for generalisations.

]]> By: imag http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1400594 imag Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1400594 I'm not so sure.  This would be seriously impressive in person.  After being in an already surreal and impressive environment, this would be stunning. I think it's just that crappy video dampens our view of how frickin' cool the event was. I’m not so sure.  This would be seriously impressive in person.  After being in an already surreal and impressive environment, this would be stunning.

I think it’s just that crappy video dampens our view of how frickin’ cool the event was.

]]> By: William http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1400336 William Fri, 20 Apr 2012 02:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1400336 Superman was drunk again, and will wake up in snow. Again. Superman was drunk again, and will wake up in snow. Again.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1400242 Antinous / Moderator Fri, 20 Apr 2012 01:14:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1400242 Having seen plenty of Northern Europeans vacationing in Southern Europe, I find American travelers to be polite and modest. Having seen plenty of Northern Europeans vacationing in Southern Europe, I find American travelers to be polite and modest.

]]> By: RJ http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1400237 RJ Fri, 20 Apr 2012 01:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1400237 Social vocalizing is pretty common in pretty much all social animals. Whooping at the iceberg is probably similar to a warning call, but is more likely to be a simple "heads up" sort of behavior. The idea is to get everyone in the group looking the same direction, then they can all reach a decision on how to respond. The bit about Americans and Europeans is beyond me. I haven't spent enough time touring Europe to form a solid opinion on that. I've always heard that German tourists make a substantial amount of racket. The reasons for boorish behavior are varied; it could be an overcompensation for knowing you're out of your element, or it could be a straightforward assertion of dominance. It depends on how stupid the individual is, I suppose. Social vocalizing is pretty common in pretty much all social animals. Whooping at the iceberg is probably similar to a warning call, but is more likely to be a simple “heads up” sort of behavior. The idea is to get everyone in the group looking the same direction, then they can all reach a decision on how to respond.

The bit about Americans and Europeans is beyond me. I haven’t spent enough time touring Europe to form a solid opinion on that. I’ve always heard that German tourists make a substantial amount of racket. The reasons for boorish behavior are varied; it could be an overcompensation for knowing you’re out of your element, or it could be a straightforward assertion of dominance. It depends on how stupid the individual is, I suppose.

]]> By: timquinn http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1400201 timquinn Fri, 20 Apr 2012 00:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1400201 Pure lizard brain response, adrenaline is the liquor here. Pure lizard brain response, adrenaline is the liquor here.

]]> By: timquinn http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1400198 timquinn Fri, 20 Apr 2012 00:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1400198 It is interesting to consider where the shouting stems from. I think it can be traced, or rather our reaction to the shouting, can be traced to the fact that the video is just not communicating the scale of the event. The shouting suggests a real adrenaline rush and it is nearly everyone. The pilot of the boat takes off and keeps going long past the point of danger. Maybe it is a lack of build up in the sound track that fools us. We are so blind to being manipulated by media that we don't recognize relatively raw information when it reaches us. It is interesting to consider where the shouting stems from. I think it can be traced, or rather our reaction to the shouting, can be traced to the fact that the video is just not communicating the scale of the event. The shouting suggests a real adrenaline rush and it is nearly everyone. The pilot of the boat takes off and keeps going long past the point of danger. Maybe it is a lack of build up in the sound track that fools us. We are so blind to being manipulated by media that we don’t recognize relatively raw information when it reaches us.

]]> By: Nick Bonzey http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1400182 Nick Bonzey Thu, 19 Apr 2012 23:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1400182 Having spent a good amount of time watching calving glaciers in SE Alaska, big chunks of ice exploding are pretty frickin' cool.  I share their enthusiasm. Having spent a good amount of time watching calving glaciers in SE Alaska, big chunks of ice exploding are pretty frickin’ cool.  I share their enthusiasm.

]]> By: Artemis Harbert http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1400171 Artemis Harbert Thu, 19 Apr 2012 23:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1400171 That's awesome. Surprised there wasn't more of a wave. We saw something similar when we were on a research trip in Antarctica, and half the ship nearly died standing on the back deck with our tongues hanging out. Luckily some faster-thinking person got everyone inside and accounted for. Video shot from the bridge: http://youtu.be/aDJizpbNZvw She also uploaded two other videos from other decks. That’s awesome. Surprised there wasn’t more of a wave. We saw something similar when we were on a research trip in Antarctica, and half the ship nearly died standing on the back deck with our tongues hanging out. Luckily some faster-thinking person got everyone inside and accounted for. Video shot from the bridge: http://youtu.be/aDJizpbNZvw
She also uploaded two other videos from other decks.

]]> By: inkfumes http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1400148 inkfumes Thu, 19 Apr 2012 23:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1400148 Yay! The world is melting! Oh... now I have made myself sad. Yay! The world is melting! Oh… now I have made myself sad.

]]> By: Ipo http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1400135 Ipo Thu, 19 Apr 2012 23:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1400135  No ads for me.  How is googleapis.com working out?   No ads for me. 
How is googleapis.com working out? 

]]> By: neurolux http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1400114 neurolux Thu, 19 Apr 2012 22:35:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1400114 It's always awesome when nature does something big, and no one gets hurt. It’s always awesome when nature does something big, and no one gets hurt.

]]> By: Digilante http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1400107 Digilante Thu, 19 Apr 2012 22:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1400107  With iceberg icecubes of course! :-) That deep blue of those cubes is just so, erm, cool. I must say though that the thought of primordial microbes in the cubes did freak me out a bit. I hear the glacier from which the cubes came has now receded to the point where the boats cannot get to it anymore [that was in Patagonia].  With iceberg icecubes of course! :-) That deep blue of those cubes is just so, erm, cool. I must say though that the thought of primordial microbes in the cubes did freak me out a bit. I hear the glacier from which the cubes came has now receded to the point where the boats cannot get to it anymore [that was in Patagonia].

]]> By: eldritch http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1400099 eldritch Thu, 19 Apr 2012 22:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1400099 I imagine it could also stem from things like our distant ancestors hunting in packs to take down large game or predators. If you look at examples of hunting-centric societies even in modern times, the behavior exists there too. People like First Nations or the  Zulu were famous for their war cries, as well as for their superb ambushing tactics. They would be quiet and stealthy until the trap was sprung, then roar their heads off as they overwhelmed the enemy. And when the fight is won, what do humans anywhere do? We shout in victory! But not the same sort of shout as before - it's subtley different. Instead of serving to threaten or confuse the foe, it serves to transition from combat to post-combat behavior. It informs allies that the fight is won, tells them to regroup and rally, in the case of the hunt to help manage the kill, in the case of war to take prisoners and tend to the wounded, and also offers a form of shared communal experience. It's not just the leader who yells - everyone does! I imagine it could also stem from things like our distant ancestors hunting in packs to take down large game or predators.

If you look at examples of hunting-centric societies even in modern times, the behavior exists there too. People like First Nations or the  Zulu were famous for their war cries, as well as for their superb ambushing tactics. They would be quiet and stealthy until the trap was sprung, then roar their heads off as they overwhelmed the enemy.

And when the fight is won, what do humans anywhere do? We shout in victory! But not the same sort of shout as before – it’s subtley different. Instead of serving to threaten or confuse the foe, it serves to transition from combat to post-combat behavior. It informs allies that the fight is won, tells them to regroup and rally, in the case of the hunt to help manage the kill, in the case of war to take prisoners and tend to the wounded, and also offers a form of shared communal experience. It’s not just the leader who yells – everyone does!

]]> By: timquinn http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1400095 timquinn Thu, 19 Apr 2012 22:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1400095 The shouting is because they are suddenly rocked by the wave coming from the splashdown. It was probably pretty exciting and maybe actually scary. You, know, they could probably smell the water, too. They were not watching a video. The shouting is because they are suddenly rocked by the wave coming from the splashdown. It was probably pretty exciting and maybe actually scary.

You, know, they could probably smell the water, too. They were not watching a video.

]]> By: doug rogers http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1400062 doug rogers Thu, 19 Apr 2012 21:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1400062 "Grandpa, where were you when Global Climate Change was happening?" "Why, I was drinking vodka on a pleasure cruise, watching the icebergs melt." “Grandpa, where were you when Global Climate Change was happening?”
“Why, I was drinking vodka on a pleasure cruise, watching the icebergs melt.”

]]> By: Jim Schmidt http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1400046 Jim Schmidt Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1400046 Fight or flight response, the yelling focuses the person's attention / energy / adrenaline? Similar to why yelling seems to help breaking boards or otherwise focusing an attack in martial arts? Fight or flight response, the yelling focuses the person’s attention / energy / adrenaline? Similar to why yelling seems to help breaking boards or otherwise focusing an attack in martial arts?

]]> By: suburbanhick http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1399988 suburbanhick Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:09:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1399988 I thought the exact same thing! I thought the exact same thing!

]]> By: Paul Renault http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1399984 Paul Renault Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1399984  The inside of the 'berg was an astounding shade of blue!  The inside of the ‘berg was an astounding shade of blue!

]]> By: RadioSilence http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1399981 RadioSilence Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1399981 They just need to hold out their glasses to catch some flying ice! They just need to hold out their glasses to catch some flying ice!

]]> By: mccrum http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1399972 mccrum Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1399972  "I'd like to see the iceberg's long-form birth certificate!" Just guessin'  ”I’d like to see the iceberg’s long-form birth certificate!”

Just guessin’

]]> By: vrplumber http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1399958 vrplumber Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1399958 Implosion is a word that is often misused, such as when the controlled demolition of a tall building is called an implosion.  Collapse is a more accurate term for sure. Implosion is a word that is often misused, such as when the controlled demolition of a tall building is called an implosion.  Collapse is a more accurate term for sure.

]]> By: Donald Petersen http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1399942 Donald Petersen Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:36:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1399942 Yeah, I was surprised at how overdriven it was.  I've gotten so used to automatic compression and limiting in field recordings that I wasn't prepared for how noisy that would be.  Even the falling clumps of ice sounded closer than they were.  Gain for days... Yeah, I was surprised at how overdriven it was.  I’ve gotten so used to automatic compression and limiting in field recordings that I wasn’t prepared for how noisy that would be.  Even the falling clumps of ice sounded closer than they were.  Gain for days…

]]> By: Digilante http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1399921 Digilante Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1399921 I love observing in groups of humans what I imagine are deeply buried instincts, which I think are also influenced by modern culture. If you look at it objectively, there is absolutely no gain or incentive from screaming like lunatics. Yet they do. Are we built to make warning sounds when something unusual and/or big happens? The influence of modern culture could be that, with all due respect, Americans seem to make substantially more noise than, for example, Europeans. Similarly, it boggles me why during quiet moments in concerts, people feel a need to scream - some complex-based need to identify with the performer in front of the public? Anyway, I'm no psychologist, so this is just sheer speculation and gross generalisation by an idle mind. Just very interesting, that's all. I love observing in groups of humans what I imagine are deeply buried instincts, which I think are also influenced by modern culture. If you look at it objectively, there is absolutely no gain or incentive from screaming like lunatics. Yet they do. Are we built to make warning sounds when something unusual and/or big happens? The influence of modern culture could be that, with all due respect, Americans seem to make substantially more noise than, for example, Europeans.

Similarly, it boggles me why during quiet moments in concerts, people feel a need to scream – some complex-based need to identify with the performer in front of the public?

Anyway, I’m no psychologist, so this is just sheer speculation and gross generalisation by an idle mind. Just very interesting, that’s all.

]]> By: Finnagain http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1399905 Finnagain Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:01:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1399905  It was plastered with ads here too. Yay! Now I can see what google wants to sell instead of the actual vid I clicked on. Thanks!  It was plastered with ads here too. Yay! Now I can see what google wants to sell instead of the actual vid I clicked on. Thanks!

]]> By: Kelly M http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1399898 Kelly M Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1399898 What will the troofers say? What will the troofers say?

]]> By: Comic Book Guy http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1399895 Comic Book Guy Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1399895 Is imploding a technical term for this event? If not I would think collapsing is more accurate. Is imploding a technical term for this event? If not I would think collapsing is more accurate.

]]> By: bcsizemo http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1399869 bcsizemo Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1399869 Given the level of technology of most video recording devices now, audio normalization/limiting should be standard (yet defeatable if so desired).  I almost wonder if someone was startled by it all and swallowed the mic... Given the level of technology of most video recording devices now, audio normalization/limiting should be standard (yet defeatable if so desired). 
I almost wonder if someone was startled by it all and swallowed the mic…

]]> By: bcsizemo http://boingboing.net/2012/04/19/imploding-iceberg-in-antarctic.html#comment-1399864 bcsizemo Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=155607#comment-1399864 Actually when watching it on youtube I get no ads at all.  I've never gotten preroll ads on youtube, ever.  (No idea why, not a work computer or anything special.) Actually when watching it on youtube I get no ads at all.  I’ve never gotten preroll ads on youtube, ever.  (No idea why, not a work computer or anything special.)

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