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	<title>Comments on: 75p/h on the high seas (tipping&#160;optional)</title>
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		<title>By: cjporkchop</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/04/29/75ph-on-the-high-seas-tippin.html#comment-1413387</link>
		<dc:creator>cjporkchop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 21:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> How is that different than a tip jar that gets distributed among all employees?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> How is that different than a tip jar that gets distributed among all employees?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Cavanaugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Cavanaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also they toss tons of trash once in intl waters. They are floating pollution vectors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also they toss tons of trash once in intl waters. They are floating pollution vectors.</p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Our businesses have to remain competitive, which is why we&#039;ll be serving delicious Soylent Green at the buffet tonight.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Our businesses have to remain competitive, which is why we&#8217;ll be serving delicious Soylent Green at the buffet tonight.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: espritdecorpse</title>
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		<dc:creator>espritdecorpse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 07:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Micky Arison (Chairman and CEO) &#039;earns&#039; $7,201,110 (2009) (Equilar). Will he have his tips witheld if he fails to meet the targets required for a slavemaster? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micky Arison (Chairman and CEO) &#8216;earns&#8217; $7,201,110 (2009) (Equilar). Will he have his tips witheld if he fails to meet the targets required for a slavemaster? </p>
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		<title>By: Wreckrob8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wreckrob8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 06:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They still have families to house and feed onshore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They still have families to house and feed onshore.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 06:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I had a roommate in the 70s who was a carny.  Also a heroin addict and one of the founders of NAMBLA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I had a roommate in the 70s who was a carny.  Also a heroin addict and one of the founders of NAMBLA.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 04:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, you bet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freewinds</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, you bet.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freewinds" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freewinds</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kimmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 04:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel compelled to re-post a comment I made on &lt;a href=&quot;http://boingboing.net/2012/04/25/american-hospitals-turn-to-bed.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another&lt;/a&gt; story:
&lt;blockquote&gt;There are so many jobs in the US that would make me want to kill myself. 

This joint expects low-paid workers to beg for tips from customers to subsidise their shitty wages, co-opts and brands basic courtesy into some grotesque &#039;greeter&#039; job description, drapes sandwich boards over the desperate, and basically pisses all over fundamental human decency in the drive to disenfranchise, humiliate, and grind into the dust anyone who&#039;s down on their luck.

Give me your tired, your poor, 
Your huddled masses, yearning to breathe free, 
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore, 
Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed,
Because I need someone to shit on.&lt;/blockquote&gt;And the utter scumbags who wholeheartedly approve of such a vile state of affairs are hell-bent on exporting this misery to every corner of the globe. That arch-scum Murdoch has just about eliminated the means to have a proper public debate about any of this, while getting most of the idiots on side... meanwhile, right-wing think tanks proliferate and fund lobbyists, undermine respect for science, erode workers&#039; rights, and all the rest of it...

The US was once a great source of hope, but the rancid black cancer at its heart has long since metastasised, and now the cause of its imminent death riddles the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel compelled to re-post a comment I made on <a href="http://boingboing.net/2012/04/25/american-hospitals-turn-to-bed.html" rel="nofollow">another</a> story:</p>
<blockquote><p>There are so many jobs in the US that would make me want to kill myself. </p>
<p>This joint expects low-paid workers to beg for tips from customers to subsidise their shitty wages, co-opts and brands basic courtesy into some grotesque &#8216;greeter&#8217; job description, drapes sandwich boards over the desperate, and basically pisses all over fundamental human decency in the drive to disenfranchise, humiliate, and grind into the dust anyone who&#8217;s down on their luck.</p>
<p>Give me your tired, your poor,<br />
Your huddled masses, yearning to breathe free,<br />
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,<br />
Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed,<br />
Because I need someone to shit on.</p></blockquote>
<p>And the utter scumbags who wholeheartedly approve of such a vile state of affairs are hell-bent on exporting this misery to every corner of the globe. That arch-scum Murdoch has just about eliminated the means to have a proper public debate about any of this, while getting most of the idiots on side&#8230; meanwhile, right-wing think tanks proliferate and fund lobbyists, undermine respect for science, erode workers&#8217; rights, and all the rest of it&#8230;</p>
<p>The US was once a great source of hope, but the rancid black cancer at its heart has long since metastasised, and now the cause of its imminent death riddles the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 04:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, like Foxconn&#039;s workers...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, like Foxconn&#8217;s workers&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: awjt</title>
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		<dc:creator>awjt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bunch of clowns there too, but to each his own; I am not judging.  Watch out, some of the funnel cakes have been sitting around a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bunch of clowns there too, but to each his own; I am not judging.  Watch out, some of the funnel cakes have been sitting around a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Deidzoeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deidzoeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of abuse can be helped by using a &quot;flag of convenience,&quot; similar to the way pirates will fly different flags to fool their victims. So you want to get into the cruise ship business? Since you&#039;re going to be operating at sea, moving from one nation to another, and you want to make a profit and you have no conscience, register your container ship or Gulag Princess cruise liner with the country with the skimpiest regulations in terms of labor, environmental standards, or anything else that might get in the way of your profit. Recruit the most desperate workers from anywhere in the world, far from where the ship operates, and then tell them to cough up $3000 or more for a ticket home if they try to quit.

Here&#039;s a scary report from a few years ago by Waronwant.org and Intl Transport Workers&#039; Federation, called SWEAT SHIPS. This focuses on the kinds of horror stories cruise ship workers have experienced. I imagine it&#039;s worse for some other kinds of workers at sea, where there are no cruisers or tourists to humor.
http://www.waronwant.org/attachments/Sweatships.pdf </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of abuse can be helped by using a &#8220;flag of convenience,&#8221; similar to the way pirates will fly different flags to fool their victims. So you want to get into the cruise ship business? Since you&#8217;re going to be operating at sea, moving from one nation to another, and you want to make a profit and you have no conscience, register your container ship or Gulag Princess cruise liner with the country with the skimpiest regulations in terms of labor, environmental standards, or anything else that might get in the way of your profit. Recruit the most desperate workers from anywhere in the world, far from where the ship operates, and then tell them to cough up $3000 or more for a ticket home if they try to quit.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a scary report from a few years ago by Waronwant.org and Intl Transport Workers&#8217; Federation, called SWEAT SHIPS. This focuses on the kinds of horror stories cruise ship workers have experienced. I imagine it&#8217;s worse for some other kinds of workers at sea, where there are no cruisers or tourists to humor.<br />
<a href="http://www.waronwant.org/attachments/Sweatships.pdf " rel="nofollow">http://www.waronwant.org/attachments/Sweatships.pdf </a></p>
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		<title>By: JonS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;On many cruise ships, tips aren&#039;t distributed to each crew member by the passengers themselves. Passengers are asked to pay a suggested amount that will be distributed among all the crew.&quot;

That isn&#039;t a tip in any meaningful sense of the word. That&#039;s just &#039;the price,&#039; which gets distributed as &#039;wages.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On many cruise ships, tips aren&#8217;t distributed to each crew member by the passengers themselves. Passengers are asked to pay a suggested amount that will be distributed among all the crew.&#8221;</p>
<p>That isn&#8217;t a tip in any meaningful sense of the word. That&#8217;s just &#8216;the price,&#8217; which gets distributed as &#8216;wages.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: cjporkchop</title>
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		<dc:creator>cjporkchop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If I&#039;m getting paid by tips, why do I need &#039;performance targets&#039;? If I&#039;m getting tips, how can I not be meeting any rational &#039;performance targets&#039;?&quot;

On many cruise ships, tips aren&#039;t distributed to each crew member by the passengers themselves. Passengers are asked to pay a suggested amount that will be distributed among all the crew.

I&#039;m guessing the &#039;performance targets&#039; are meant to ensure that someone can&#039;t do a C- job and get the same tip as someone who does an A+ job. But there has to be a better way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If I&#8217;m getting paid by tips, why do I need &#8216;performance targets&#8217;? If I&#8217;m getting tips, how can I not be meeting any rational &#8216;performance targets&#8217;?&#8221;</p>
<p>On many cruise ships, tips aren&#8217;t distributed to each crew member by the passengers themselves. Passengers are asked to pay a suggested amount that will be distributed among all the crew.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing the &#8216;performance targets&#8217; are meant to ensure that someone can&#8217;t do a C- job and get the same tip as someone who does an A+ job. But there has to be a better way.</p>
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		<title>By: cjporkchop</title>
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		<dc:creator>cjporkchop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> True.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> True.</p>
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		<title>By: JonS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 22:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;your employers withhold your tips unless you hit performance targets.&quot;

Wait a sec ... doesn&#039;t that completely defeat the point of tipping? If I&#039;m getting paid by tips, why do I need &#039;performance targets&#039;? If I&#039;m getting tips, how can I not be meeting any rational &#039;performance targets&#039;?

I am so glad tipping hasn&#039;t taken hold here (yet?). Just pay people a decent wage, and get on with it. That whole tipping economy seems to set up perverse incentives, for everyone involved, even when the staff do actually /get/ their tips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;your employers withhold your tips unless you hit performance targets.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wait a sec &#8230; doesn&#8217;t that completely defeat the point of tipping? If I&#8217;m getting paid by tips, why do I need &#8216;performance targets&#8217;? If I&#8217;m getting tips, how can I not be meeting any rational &#8216;performance targets&#8217;?</p>
<p>I am so glad tipping hasn&#8217;t taken hold here (yet?). Just pay people a decent wage, and get on with it. That whole tipping economy seems to set up perverse incentives, for everyone involved, even when the staff do actually /get/ their tips.</p>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 22:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I suspect, like how it is with servers in a restaurant, the bulk of the crew&#039;s income comes from tips.&lt;/em&gt;

I don&#039;t think that&#039;s the case in many countries outside the USA. A fair chunk of income perhaps, the bulk, not likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I suspect, like how it is with servers in a restaurant, the bulk of the crew&#8217;s income comes from tips.</em></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s the case in many countries outside the USA. A fair chunk of income perhaps, the bulk, not likely.</p>
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		<title>By: TelmeaStory</title>
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		<dc:creator>TelmeaStory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 21:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Slavery was the economic foundation of the US current wealth. That and genocide of indigenous people. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Slavery was the economic foundation of the US current wealth. That and genocide of indigenous people. </p>
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		<title>By: Shinkuhadoken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shinkuhadoken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 21:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect, like how it is with servers in a restaurant, the bulk of the crew&#039;s income comes from tips.  However, if the cruise line insists on collecting mandatory tips themselves, and they get to decide how much of it the crew gets, they&#039;ve effectively ended their only viable source of income and the prime incentive for doing a good job. Expect good workers and good service to vanish accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect, like how it is with servers in a restaurant, the bulk of the crew&#8217;s income comes from tips.  However, if the cruise line insists on collecting mandatory tips themselves, and they get to decide how much of it the crew gets, they&#8217;ve effectively ended their only viable source of income and the prime incentive for doing a good job. Expect good workers and good service to vanish accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Just maybe not quite as awful when you take room/board into account.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&#039;Room&#039; in this case consists of a tiny bunk in a windowless closet that you share with your coworkers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Just maybe not quite as awful when you take room/board into account.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8216;Room&#8217; in this case consists of a tiny bunk in a windowless closet that you share with your coworkers.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cruising carnivals, on the other hand...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cruising carnivals, on the other hand&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: That_Anonymous_Coward</title>
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		<dc:creator>That_Anonymous_Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we didn&#039;t pay them this little, they might question our reasoning for cutting corners on training captains, maintenance, and disinfecting ships that gave everyone the shits.   We tell them they are making less because &quot;pirate&quot; cruise lines are stealing our business, while we get nice bonuses for keeping costs down... 
It works out fantastically as long as we can avoid reefs and other sailors on becalmed boats.  Then it was just we didn&#039;t understand what they were telling us... a communication problem not a problem of being a soulless corporation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we didn&#8217;t pay them this little, they might question our reasoning for cutting corners on training captains, maintenance, and disinfecting ships that gave everyone the shits.   We tell them they are making less because &#8220;pirate&#8221; cruise lines are stealing our business, while we get nice bonuses for keeping costs down&#8230;<br />
It works out fantastically as long as we can avoid reefs and other sailors on becalmed boats.  Then it was just we didn&#8217;t understand what they were telling us&#8230; a communication problem not a problem of being a soulless corporation.</p>
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		<title>By: twianto</title>
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		<dc:creator>twianto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, turns out it can be even worse: just re-watched a rather well-known undercover documentary filmed on one of the more expensive ships; a €900/month waitress had to pay €1,400 up-front, a cook from SE Asia €3,000. Irrevocably gone, not a loan from the company or anything. Dishwashers made €400/mo and paid €200/mo in living costs (including food and even water; nothing&#039;s &quot;free&quot; there).

Again, Carnival may be totally different, I wouldn&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, turns out it can be even worse: just re-watched a rather well-known undercover documentary filmed on one of the more expensive ships; a €900/month waitress had to pay €1,400 up-front, a cook from SE Asia €3,000. Irrevocably gone, not a loan from the company or anything. Dishwashers made €400/mo and paid €200/mo in living costs (including food and even water; nothing&#8217;s &#8220;free&#8221; there).</p>
<p>Again, Carnival may be totally different, I wouldn&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: cjporkchop</title>
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		<dc:creator>cjporkchop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that I&#039;m defending that amount, but to be fair, cruise ship crews get housed and fed as part of the deal.

Again, not saying it&#039;s right. Just maybe not quite as awful when you take room/board into account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that I&#8217;m defending that amount, but to be fair, cruise ship crews get housed and fed as part of the deal.</p>
<p>Again, not saying it&#8217;s right. Just maybe not quite as awful when you take room/board into account.</p>
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		<title>By: awjt</title>
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		<dc:creator>awjt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t cruise Carnival if my life depended on it.</description>
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		<title>By: atimoshenko</title>
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		<dc:creator>atimoshenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mind you, &quot;our businesses have to remain competitive&quot; is also trotted out whenever companies have to defend the exorbitant senior management salaries in an era of &quot;the war for talent&quot;.

The less objective the measurement of the performance of &quot;talent&quot; can be, it seems, the higher it is remunerated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mind you, &#8220;our businesses have to remain competitive&#8221; is also trotted out whenever companies have to defend the exorbitant senior management salaries in an era of &#8220;the war for talent&#8221;.</p>
<p>The less objective the measurement of the performance of &#8220;talent&#8221; can be, it seems, the higher it is remunerated.</p>
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		<title>By: JonS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You still have to pay to maintain somewhere to live on shore.</description>
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		<title>By: Romeo Vitelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Romeo Vitelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By all means, underpay the ones responsible for keeping passengers alive.  Cant imagine how that could backfire... </description>
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		<title>By: twianto</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 19:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t speak for P&amp;O or Carnival, but yeah, that&#039;s how it works on some of the cruise lines. What also happens sometimes is that they make you pay for training, uniforms etc., which means you are in debt before you even start working. Want to leave before your debt is paid back because you can&#039;t bear it? No salary for you, sorry!

Again, not saying this is what Carnival does, yada yada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t speak for P&amp;O or Carnival, but yeah, that&#8217;s how it works on some of the cruise lines. What also happens sometimes is that they make you pay for training, uniforms etc., which means you are in debt before you even start working. Want to leave before your debt is paid back because you can&#8217;t bear it? No salary for you, sorry!</p>
<p>Again, not saying this is what Carnival does, yada yada.</p>
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		<title>By: annoyingmouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>annoyingmouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really know anything about the living arrangements and lifestyles of crews on cruise ship but would I be right in saying that if you work 11 hours a day, 7 days a week on a ship that the only place you would really be able to spend your wage would be on the ship?  Your money going straight back to your P&amp;O?  Someone please tell me that I&#039;m wrong, that working life on a cruise ship doesn&#039;t work like that and the employers who pay a disgusting 75p/h don&#039;t just get the money back again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really know anything about the living arrangements and lifestyles of crews on cruise ship but would I be right in saying that if you work 11 hours a day, 7 days a week on a ship that the only place you would really be able to spend your wage would be on the ship?  Your money going straight back to your P&amp;O?  Someone please tell me that I&#8217;m wrong, that working life on a cruise ship doesn&#8217;t work like that and the employers who pay a disgusting 75p/h don&#8217;t just get the money back again.</p>
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		<title>By: Crunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ack. My mom took my sister&#039;s and my families on a Carnival cruise to Mexico last month. We&#039;re not wealthy/leisurely inclined people and this was not our usual idea of a  vacation (I prefer visiting places with culture or Burning Man). Anyway, the employees, mostly Philipino and Indonesian were super friendly and helpful for the entire week, which is more than I could sustain. Tips are automatically included on everything and passengers can always tip more at their discretion, but who knows how they get divvied up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ack. My mom took my sister&#8217;s and my families on a Carnival cruise to Mexico last month. We&#8217;re not wealthy/leisurely inclined people and this was not our usual idea of a  vacation (I prefer visiting places with culture or Burning Man). Anyway, the employees, mostly Philipino and Indonesian were super friendly and helpful for the entire week, which is more than I could sustain. Tips are automatically included on everything and passengers can always tip more at their discretion, but who knows how they get divvied up?</p>
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