Comments on: Rejected and controversial New Yorker cover art: exclusive Boing Boing preview gallery http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 19 Jun 2013 02:28:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Teller http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1412973 Teller Thu, 03 May 2012 15:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1412973 Fave: The woman receiving an Amazon package as the bookshop owner next door opens his shop. Fave: The woman receiving an Amazon package as the bookshop owner next door opens his shop.

]]> By: Philip Zimmermann http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1412545 Philip Zimmermann Thu, 03 May 2012 03:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1412545 This book is $14 and change on Amazon. Cheap. This book is $14 and change on Amazon. Cheap.

]]> By: llazy8 http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1412517 llazy8 Thu, 03 May 2012 02:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1412517 You mean they're not nekkid under there? You mean they’re not nekkid under there?

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1412143 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 02 May 2012 20:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1412143 Saudi women are dressed like any woman of their economic status would be in New York or Paris. I wonder what westerners think is under there - some Disney Arabian Nights princess outfit? Saudi women are dressed like any woman of their economic status would be in New York or Paris. I wonder what westerners think is under there – some Disney Arabian Nights princess outfit?

]]> By: buddy66 http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1412116 buddy66 Wed, 02 May 2012 20:05:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1412116 A friend once said to me, "You'll know you're sophisticated when you understand every cartoon in a year's worth of New Yorkers." A friend once said to me, “You’ll know you’re sophisticated when you understand every cartoon in a year’s worth of New Yorkers.”

]]> By: buddy66 http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1412099 buddy66 Wed, 02 May 2012 19:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1412099 How about John McPhee's wonderful 3-issue essay "The Control of Nature" that dealt with the realities of Los Angeles geology? (It should have been subtitled "Men To Match My Mudslides.") How about John McPhee’s wonderful 3-issue essay “The Control of Nature” that dealt with the realities of Los Angeles geology? (It should have been subtitled “Men To Match My Mudslides.”)

]]> By: BardofAvon http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1411701 BardofAvon Wed, 02 May 2012 15:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1411701 Thats a great quote but I think you are misconstruing what I am saying. I didn't say controversial is a bad thing, I just said these images rely a LOT more on controversy to sell themselves than any artistic quality. Richard Pryor, George Carlin, Bill Hicks, Dave Chappelle... shit they were all controversial but they were more than just controversial, they were genius and genuinely funny. This is a scrapbook of rejects, I personally wouldn't waste my money. You can buy quite a few Carlin DVD's for the amount this book costs and learn a lot more. Thats a great quote but I think you are misconstruing what I am saying.

I didn’t say controversial is a bad thing, I just said these images rely a LOT more on controversy to sell themselves than any artistic quality.

Richard Pryor, George Carlin, Bill Hicks, Dave Chappelle… shit they were all controversial but they were more than just controversial, they were genius and genuinely funny.

This is a scrapbook of rejects, I personally wouldn’t waste my money. You can buy quite a few Carlin DVD’s for the amount this book costs and learn a lot more.

]]> By: millie fink http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1411682 millie fink Wed, 02 May 2012 15:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1411682 I wonder if any submitted by Adrian Tomine got rejected. Some of his that got accepted rock. I wonder if any submitted by Adrian Tomine got rejected. Some of his that got accepted rock.

]]> By: millie fink http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1411675 millie fink Wed, 02 May 2012 15:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1411675 Laughably tepid, I'd say. I gave up on it years ago. Laughably tepid, I’d say. I gave up on it years ago.

]]> By: millie fink http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1411672 millie fink Wed, 02 May 2012 15:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1411672 I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.  --George Carlin I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately. 

–George Carlin

]]> By: Teller http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1411669 Teller Wed, 02 May 2012 15:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1411669 Paid to see the cartoon editor, Mankoff, on tour a year or two ago with the rejected cartoons. Brutally funny stuff. Paid to see the cartoon editor, Mankoff, on tour a year or two ago with the rejected cartoons. Brutally funny stuff.

]]> By: donniebnyc http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1411643 donniebnyc Wed, 02 May 2012 14:47:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1411643 I have a female friend who often travels to Saudi Arabia.  She has seen many women wearing very stylish clothes that are only revealed when they are inside either at home or among other women.  Whether the artist knew this or not, or what he might have been trying to say is of course a mystery.  I have a female friend who often travels to Saudi Arabia.  She has seen many women wearing very stylish clothes that are only revealed when they are inside either at home or among other women.  Whether the artist knew this or not, or what he might have been trying to say is of course a mystery. 

]]> By: Hamish Grant http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1411593 Hamish Grant Wed, 02 May 2012 13:58:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1411593 If I'm not mistaken Chris Ware himself recently became a father - it looks like he drew himself in on the cover sitting on the park bench at the left of the frame. If I’m not mistaken Chris Ware himself recently became a father – it looks like he drew himself in on the cover sitting on the park bench at the left of the frame.

]]> By: Ambiguity http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1411587 Ambiguity Wed, 02 May 2012 13:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1411587 ...and sometimes a Baby Bjorn is just a Baby Bjorn. (Or, as they say in the Academy... something about hermeneutics, identity politics, and oppression.) …and sometimes a Baby Bjorn is just a Baby Bjorn.

(Or, as they say in the Academy… something about hermeneutics, identity politics, and oppression.)

]]> By: AlexG55 http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1411430 AlexG55 Wed, 02 May 2012 11:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1411430 Interesting that in the first cover (the WTC bombing one) the kid pretending to be an Arab terrorist is the only obviously white one (you can see red hair peeking out from under the towel), though the one with his back to the camera might be- I imagine he's either Jewish or Hispanic if they're supposed to represent New York's ethnic mix. I wonder what this says about conspiracy theories? Interesting that in the first cover (the WTC bombing one) the kid pretending to be an Arab terrorist is the only obviously white one (you can see red hair peeking out from under the towel), though the one with his back to the camera might be- I imagine he’s either Jewish or Hispanic if they’re supposed to represent New York’s ethnic mix.

I wonder what this says about conspiracy theories?

]]> By: jery Kilker http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1411409 jery Kilker Wed, 02 May 2012 10:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1411409 I've been reading The New Yorker for the past 60 years, first in California, then in Massachusetts and Arizona (while in the Army), then New York (while in graduate school), then Bangkok, Geneva, Phnom Penh, South Africa (while working for the United Nations and the World Health Organization), and now in Bonneville, France (in retirement). I've always found the magazine to be exciting, well-written, and informative and of interest to my frequent lunch partners from other countries. The New Yorker is a world-class read. I’ve been reading The New Yorker for the past 60 years, first in California, then in Massachusetts and Arizona (while in the Army), then New York (while in graduate school), then Bangkok, Geneva, Phnom Penh, South Africa (while working for the United Nations and the World Health Organization), and now in Bonneville, France (in retirement). I’ve always found the magazine to be exciting, well-written, and informative and of interest to my frequent lunch partners from other countries. The New Yorker is a world-class read.

]]> By: EvilTerran http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1411390 EvilTerran Wed, 02 May 2012 09:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1411390 Further to others' comments, the thought that first sprung to my mind is that archetypally, a father will take the kids off his wife's hands for mothers' day -- hence all the men -- which got me thinking that the uncomfortable-looking woman might be intended to "have no man", as it were (be she unmarried, lesbian, widowed, whatever). Hence the picture could be interpreted to be pointing out that mothers' day marginalises those who don't fit into the hetero-normative atomic-family mould. Further to others’ comments, the thought that first sprung to my mind is that archetypally, a father will take the kids off his wife’s hands for mothers’ day — hence all the men — which got me thinking that the uncomfortable-looking woman might be intended to “have no man”, as it were (be she unmarried, lesbian, widowed, whatever).

Hence the picture could be interpreted to be pointing out that mothers’ day marginalises those who don’t fit into the hetero-normative atomic-family mould.

]]> By: hostile_17 http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1411337 hostile_17 Wed, 02 May 2012 07:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1411337 Shared the sandcastle one had to be done. Love the style of the playground one... even if I don't get it, love the style. Shared the sandcastle one had to be done.

Love the style of the playground one… even if I don’t get it, love the style.

]]> By: VicqRuiz http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1411102 VicqRuiz Wed, 02 May 2012 03:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1411102 High heels on the burqa bomber - a brilliant touch High heels on the burqa bomber – a brilliant touch

]]> By: Balance of Power http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1411072 Balance of Power Wed, 02 May 2012 02:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1411072  Ah! Your comment provides the context I was looking for. Thank you for making sense of it for me. I originally had a different interpretation which suggested fatherhood was a "bad" thing... needless to say it left me perplexed.  Ah! Your comment provides the context I was looking for. Thank you for making sense of it for me. I originally had a different interpretation which suggested fatherhood was a “bad” thing… needless to say it left me perplexed.

]]> By: Sirkowski http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1411010 Sirkowski Wed, 02 May 2012 01:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1411010 I like it. I like it.

]]> By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1410908 Brainspore Tue, 01 May 2012 23:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1410908 <blockquote>Controversy is not a substitute for talent.</blockquote>How many <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Spiegelman#Awards" rel="nofollow">Pulitzers</a> do <em>you</em> have?

Controversy is not a substitute for talent.

How many Pulitzers do you have?

]]> By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1410903 Brainspore Tue, 01 May 2012 22:58:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1410903 More context: it's for the Mother's Day issue, so it forces the viewer to reflect on what "motherhood" means in the 21st century. More context: it’s for the Mother’s Day issue, so it forces the viewer to reflect on what “motherhood” means in the 21st century.

]]> By: estragon_nyc http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1410887 estragon_nyc Tue, 01 May 2012 22:35:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1410887 It's the cover of the current issue.  And I think you actually described the message quite well -- a woman and child arrive at a playground where the other children are accompanied by their fathers (or other male caregivers), taking on a role once considered exclusively "woman's work." It’s the cover of the current issue.  And I think you actually described the message quite well — a woman and child arrive at a playground where the other children are accompanied by their fathers (or other male caregivers), taking on a role once considered exclusively “woman’s work.”

]]> By: Balance of Power http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1410873 Balance of Power Tue, 01 May 2012 22:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1410873 Can someone give context to the first image credited to Chris Ware (i.e., the solitary mother looking out over a playground with fathers and their children)?  I'm confused. Is this also a rejected image? Either way, the message is lost on me. Can someone give context to the first image credited to Chris Ware (i.e., the solitary mother looking out over a playground with fathers and their children)?  I’m confused. Is this also a rejected image? Either way, the message is lost on me.

]]> By: Nathan Hornby http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1410824 Nathan Hornby Tue, 01 May 2012 21:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1410824 A) They're scamps. B) Talent in this case is subjective.  And IMO political cartoons are all about the message, the style is more than secondary. A) They’re scamps.

B) Talent in this case is subjective.  And IMO political cartoons are all about the message, the style is more than secondary.

]]> By: Kurt Benbenek http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1410813 Kurt Benbenek Tue, 01 May 2012 21:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1410813 The New Yorker cartoon book I have is 650 pages with 2000 cartoons. That's about all the comics sharing I can handle. If I read two cartoons a day, it would take me almost 3 years to get through them all - I like cartoons, but not that much - apparently the included DVD has cartoons with bad resolution, but I haven't gone there yet. Any magazine that prints Sam Gross is probably alright with me (frogs legs anybody?) The New Yorker cartoon book I have is 650 pages with 2000 cartoons. That’s about all the comics sharing I can handle. If I read two cartoons a day, it would take me almost 3 years to get through them all – I like cartoons, but not that much – apparently the included DVD has cartoons with bad resolution, but I haven’t gone there yet. Any magazine that prints Sam Gross is probably alright with me (frogs legs anybody?)

]]> By: THE GAJILLIONAIRES http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1410808 THE GAJILLIONAIRES Tue, 01 May 2012 21:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1410808 These are great. Cliches being used to say something new is right on the money. These are great. Cliches being used to say something new is right on the money.

]]> By: Teller http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1410797 Teller Tue, 01 May 2012 21:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1410797 The journalism, profiles, film and book reviews are terrific; the political writing is laughably shrill. The journalism, profiles, film and book reviews are terrific; the political writing is laughably shrill.

]]> By: eeePapa http://boingboing.net/2012/05/01/rejected-and-controversial-new.html#comment-1410782 eeePapa Tue, 01 May 2012 21:05:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=157790#comment-1410782 They are sketches They are sketches

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