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	<title>Comments on: Obama vs. Marijuana: What is the&#160;deal?</title>
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		<title>By: blissfulight</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1417239</link>
		<dc:creator>blissfulight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 09:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also think you&#039;re being a bit too &#039;liberal&#039; with your numbers.  Seniors are primarily concerned with two issues, entitlements and taxes.  I sincerely doubt that marijuana reform would rank highly on their agenda, and medical marijuana has passed in many states with healthy margins.  As a single issue, it&#039;s not really of much concern for the average voter.  Again, it&#039;s the way you approach this issue, and continuously repeating the reefer madness line from the 50&#039;s, which is the Obama administration&#039;s line, and which draws more on racial animosity than rigorous research, is not the way to go about it.  Again, Obama would be wise to at least shut his mouth, instead of ridiculing the serious efforts of marijuana reform activists to engage in a much needed debate about the status of marijuana.  Is it really that hard to admit that marijuana might have some acceptable medical use, or that the policy of the past, which has focused on interdiction and incarceration, has not led to a decrease in the supply, quality, or a rise in prices?  If the aims of the drug war are wrong, what is the point of sustaining the rhetoric of a bunch of Southern bigots?  They have more serious issues to deal with, like whether the Earth was created in 7 days, and when even the stodgiest crazies on the extreme right like Pat Robertson admit that there may be some merit to medical marijuana, it&#039;s really hard to take Obama&#039;s position seriously because it looks like he&#039;s saying something that the olds aren&#039;t even listening for.  Also, they tend to retire in Arizona as well, but I would be hard pressed to find anyone outside their gated communities that takes their votes or ideas seriously, and the administration is actively engaged in combating positions that are near and dear to their hearts.  Any smart politico will realize that voters will go to the poll for the issue that concerns them the most, not a panoply of issues.  Most voters, no matter how savvy, just don&#039;t have the attention span necessary to work through a series of issues, so the reason they&#039;re going to choose Mitt or Obama at the polls isn&#039;t likely to be because of their respective stance on marijuana reform.  By isolating the issue, you&#039;re making it look like half the country is solidly against marijuana reform, but since we don&#039;t have federal referendums, and instead elect representatives, that issue will be lumped into other issues, and the only thing sustaining the status quo is a belief that somehow, holding the line at pot matters.  For a man like Obama, who pretends to want to engage everyone on the issues, to pay lip service to the drug warrior culture is nothing short of pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think you&#8217;re being a bit too &#8216;liberal&#8217; with your numbers.  Seniors are primarily concerned with two issues, entitlements and taxes.  I sincerely doubt that marijuana reform would rank highly on their agenda, and medical marijuana has passed in many states with healthy margins.  As a single issue, it&#8217;s not really of much concern for the average voter.  Again, it&#8217;s the way you approach this issue, and continuously repeating the reefer madness line from the 50&#8242;s, which is the Obama administration&#8217;s line, and which draws more on racial animosity than rigorous research, is not the way to go about it.  Again, Obama would be wise to at least shut his mouth, instead of ridiculing the serious efforts of marijuana reform activists to engage in a much needed debate about the status of marijuana.  Is it really that hard to admit that marijuana might have some acceptable medical use, or that the policy of the past, which has focused on interdiction and incarceration, has not led to a decrease in the supply, quality, or a rise in prices?  If the aims of the drug war are wrong, what is the point of sustaining the rhetoric of a bunch of Southern bigots?  They have more serious issues to deal with, like whether the Earth was created in 7 days, and when even the stodgiest crazies on the extreme right like Pat Robertson admit that there may be some merit to medical marijuana, it&#8217;s really hard to take Obama&#8217;s position seriously because it looks like he&#8217;s saying something that the olds aren&#8217;t even listening for.  Also, they tend to retire in Arizona as well, but I would be hard pressed to find anyone outside their gated communities that takes their votes or ideas seriously, and the administration is actively engaged in combating positions that are near and dear to their hearts.  Any smart politico will realize that voters will go to the poll for the issue that concerns them the most, not a panoply of issues.  Most voters, no matter how savvy, just don&#8217;t have the attention span necessary to work through a series of issues, so the reason they&#8217;re going to choose Mitt or Obama at the polls isn&#8217;t likely to be because of their respective stance on marijuana reform.  By isolating the issue, you&#8217;re making it look like half the country is solidly against marijuana reform, but since we don&#8217;t have federal referendums, and instead elect representatives, that issue will be lumped into other issues, and the only thing sustaining the status quo is a belief that somehow, holding the line at pot matters.  For a man like Obama, who pretends to want to engage everyone on the issues, to pay lip service to the drug warrior culture is nothing short of pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 09:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any comment that is deleted sits in the deleted bin for 30 days.  You have no comments that aren&#039;t visible, at least assuming that Disqus isn&#039;t glitching.  You can try changing the comment sort order at the top of the thread.  Sometimes that will unglitch comments that are invisible to an individual user.  It is a known glitch.</description>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1417232</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 09:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aikimoe; I clearly asked for evidence of Obama telling the government committee investigating mortgage fraud to ignore the law.  


And no, I didn&#039;t really argue any of those things you claim I argued, but don&#039;t let that disturb your little fantasy of a world.  I&#039;m sure your sense of proportion, equivalency, accuracy or truth are functional there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aikimoe; I clearly asked for evidence of Obama telling the government committee investigating mortgage fraud to ignore the law.  </p>
<p>And no, I didn&#8217;t really argue any of those things you claim I argued, but don&#8217;t let that disturb your little fantasy of a world.  I&#8217;m sure your sense of proportion, equivalency, accuracy or truth are functional there.</p>
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		<title>By: blissfulight</title>
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		<dc:creator>blissfulight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 09:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem ridiculing ridiculous people with ridiculous ideas.  </description>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 09:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So 46% of America are Southern Senators and drug Warriors?  That seems like an example of poorly allocated resources to me.


I think people constantly underestimate how difficult drug reform is.  The old are strongly against it and the old are coincidentally the richest, most influential and the most active voters of the nation.  And they tend to retire in Florida, which is supposed to be some kind of important &#039;swingy state&#039; or something.  But I guess they don&#039;t matter that much since you can ridicule them online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So 46% of America are Southern Senators and drug Warriors?  That seems like an example of poorly allocated resources to me.</p>
<p>I think people constantly underestimate how difficult drug reform is.  The old are strongly against it and the old are coincidentally the richest, most influential and the most active voters of the nation.  And they tend to retire in Florida, which is supposed to be some kind of important &#8216;swingy state&#8217; or something.  But I guess they don&#8217;t matter that much since you can ridicule them online.</p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 08:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that leaves me in a bind, as the comments I recall aren&#039;t there for me to track down.


Does your garbage include all the deleted ones, or just yours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that leaves me in a bind, as the comments I recall aren&#8217;t there for me to track down.</p>
<p>Does your garbage include all the deleted ones, or just yours?</p>
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		<title>By: kP</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1416893</link>
		<dc:creator>kP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 23:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not sarcasm, it&#039;s my estimate based upon the current state-level momentum.   This stuff will have to be sorted out in the courts, and that requires cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not sarcasm, it&#8217;s my estimate based upon the current state-level momentum.   This stuff will have to be sorted out in the courts, and that requires cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert J. Berger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert J. Berger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 03:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I&#039;m pretty sure there is a big overlap and/or an overlap of interests of Drug Cartel members and the DEA. Both win if we keep the War on Citizens. Both loose if we end it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I&#8217;m pretty sure there is a big overlap and/or an overlap of interests of Drug Cartel members and the DEA. Both win if we keep the War on Citizens. Both loose if we end it.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert J. Berger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert J. Berger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 03:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drug Cartels who have a vested interest to keep Artifical Scarcity of Marijuana are just another part of the Klepto-Oligarchy and pay off the Government just like any other member (RIAA, Oil, Telcos, etc) to use the Government to maintain Artificial Scarcity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drug Cartels who have a vested interest to keep Artifical Scarcity of Marijuana are just another part of the Klepto-Oligarchy and pay off the Government just like any other member (RIAA, Oil, Telcos, etc) to use the Government to maintain Artificial Scarcity.</p>
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		<title>By: aikimoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>aikimoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 01:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you or I committed massive mortgage fraud - and nobody disputes that the major banks have engaged in massive mortgage fraud - we&#039;d be in jail.  What the Obama administration has done for the major banks is ask for tiny amount of money to send to people who need much more.

You asked for evidence that Obama is ignoring the law, and then admit that he&#039;s done just that in regards to the torture program and Libya.

So, yes, by your own admission, Obama ignores laws, contrary to your repeated assertions.

Regarding both, you&#039;ve made it clear that politics is what matters most of all.  More than justice, more than human decency, more than a willingness to refrain from destroying the lives of innocent people; politics is so important that those of us here complaining that Obama has destroyed the lives of innocent people whose dispensaries he&#039;s raiding - despite his promises to the contrary - just don&#039;t understand them.

And while I appreciate the desire to protect civilians from a mad dictator&#039;s threats, the innocent people he might have killed would have been no more dead than the innocent people Obama is killing now.  Obama&#039;s victims suffer no less than Qaddafi&#039;s.

But perhaps those who have had to gather the decapitated corpses of their children - cut to pieces by U.S. helicopters (or burned alive by drones) - will take some comfort in the knowledge that their lives were destroyed by a Democrat instead of a Republican.

But, then again, they probably don&#039;t understand politics, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you or I committed massive mortgage fraud &#8211; and nobody disputes that the major banks have engaged in massive mortgage fraud &#8211; we&#8217;d be in jail.  What the Obama administration has done for the major banks is ask for tiny amount of money to send to people who need much more.</p>
<p>You asked for evidence that Obama is ignoring the law, and then admit that he&#8217;s done just that in regards to the torture program and Libya.</p>
<p>So, yes, by your own admission, Obama ignores laws, contrary to your repeated assertions.</p>
<p>Regarding both, you&#8217;ve made it clear that politics is what matters most of all.  More than justice, more than human decency, more than a willingness to refrain from destroying the lives of innocent people; politics is so important that those of us here complaining that Obama has destroyed the lives of innocent people whose dispensaries he&#8217;s raiding &#8211; despite his promises to the contrary &#8211; just don&#8217;t understand them.</p>
<p>And while I appreciate the desire to protect civilians from a mad dictator&#8217;s threats, the innocent people he might have killed would have been no more dead than the innocent people Obama is killing now.  Obama&#8217;s victims suffer no less than Qaddafi&#8217;s.</p>
<p>But perhaps those who have had to gather the decapitated corpses of their children &#8211; cut to pieces by U.S. helicopters (or burned alive by drones) &#8211; will take some comfort in the knowledge that their lives were destroyed by a Democrat instead of a Republican.</p>
<p>But, then again, they probably don&#8217;t understand politics, either.</p>
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		<title>By: blissfulight</title>
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		<dc:creator>blissfulight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 22:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does this have to do with marijuana?  Seriously?  How is this even contributing to the discussion?  Americans wanted healthcare reform, they just didn&#039;t want to end up paying more for it, which created the dissension that lobbyists and the Republican opposition found easy to exploit.  If anything, the only people opposed to marijuana reform are a handful of creaky Southern senators and hardline drug warriors.  Everyone else is &#039;I don&#039;t give a shit&#039;.  You know why?  Because even the dumbest of the dumb has a hard time saying, with a straight face, that cigarettes and alcohol should be legal, and pot shouldn&#039;t.  They just can&#039;t do it anymore.  With that kind of tacit support, you would think Obama would get a clue instead of dragging his feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does this have to do with marijuana?  Seriously?  How is this even contributing to the discussion?  Americans wanted healthcare reform, they just didn&#8217;t want to end up paying more for it, which created the dissension that lobbyists and the Republican opposition found easy to exploit.  If anything, the only people opposed to marijuana reform are a handful of creaky Southern senators and hardline drug warriors.  Everyone else is &#8216;I don&#8217;t give a shit&#8217;.  You know why?  Because even the dumbest of the dumb has a hard time saying, with a straight face, that cigarettes and alcohol should be legal, and pot shouldn&#8217;t.  They just can&#8217;t do it anymore.  With that kind of tacit support, you would think Obama would get a clue instead of dragging his feet.</p>
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		<title>By: blissfulight</title>
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		<dc:creator>blissfulight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 22:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does that even mean:  &#039;they are required to follow federal law&#039;?  Does this apply to torture, by way of example?   Or holding the torturers accountable?  (Wait, you say, that&#039;s different.)  Every administration has taken a rather creative route in interpreting federal law (or rather, flouting federal law), and if the administration chooses not to prosecute certain kinds of cases, even if it falls under their jurisdiction, then by extension the work of the DEA or the associated agencies will shift to focusing on the cases that the DOJ is willing to prosecute.  Why would the DEA waste resources if they can&#039;t get a conviction?  This is why, for example, the FBI is actively pursuing terrorism cases--even providing the means and the motivation to fairly clueless wanna-be terrorists--at the expense of other less sexy but just as important cases that could have a significant impact on crime.  Maybe you&#039;ve never run any kind of business, but it&#039;s very difficult to invest if there&#039;s a high degree of risk and uncertainty that your business will evaporate.  Really, Obama is being stupid, and if he doesn&#039;t know it, he should. He is pouring money down a black hole that has had no impact on the production, potency, or price of marijuana, and has actually contributed to the de-stabilization of neighboring countries that produce all these drugs that Americans crave.  At the very least, introduce a bit of rationality that doesn&#039;t reek of the reefer madness hysteria.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does that even mean:  &#8217;they are required to follow federal law&#8217;?  Does this apply to torture, by way of example?   Or holding the torturers accountable?  (Wait, you say, that&#8217;s different.)  Every administration has taken a rather creative route in interpreting federal law (or rather, flouting federal law), and if the administration chooses not to prosecute certain kinds of cases, even if it falls under their jurisdiction, then by extension the work of the DEA or the associated agencies will shift to focusing on the cases that the DOJ is willing to prosecute.  Why would the DEA waste resources if they can&#8217;t get a conviction?  This is why, for example, the FBI is actively pursuing terrorism cases&#8211;even providing the means and the motivation to fairly clueless wanna-be terrorists&#8211;at the expense of other less sexy but just as important cases that could have a significant impact on crime.  Maybe you&#8217;ve never run any kind of business, but it&#8217;s very difficult to invest if there&#8217;s a high degree of risk and uncertainty that your business will evaporate.  Really, Obama is being stupid, and if he doesn&#8217;t know it, he should. He is pouring money down a black hole that has had no impact on the production, potency, or price of marijuana, and has actually contributed to the de-stabilization of neighboring countries that produce all these drugs that Americans crave.  At the very least, introduce a bit of rationality that doesn&#8217;t reek of the reefer madness hysteria.  </p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 22:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have any evidence that Obama is &quot;telling government employees to ignore the law&quot;?  The worst I&#039;ve heard is that the mortgage investigation in understaffed.  

The torture thing... yeah.  There are no real excuses, other than that of political necessity.  However that doesn&#039;t absolve him what-so-ever of failing justice, failing America, and damaging our integrity and honor.

The Libyan strikes were most certainly illegal, and no matter how much (a lot) they&#039;ve been ignored for the past couple of decades, Obama should have copped to it an came to Congress.  Congress were the usual batch of cowardly, sniveling children they have been of late, and didn&#039;t do anything significant to call him on it.  I would be more concerned about the situation if it hadn&#039;t been a complete moral no-brainer.  We had a UN resolution, an Arab league resolution, Arab economic and tactical support, Arab *military* support (though mostly symbolic), and the support of most of the world.  Most importantly, we had a mad-dog dictator who publicly said that he would go street-by-street to &quot;crush the cockroaches&quot;; which doesn&#039;t sound so promising as a recipe for flowers, peace and genocide-avoidance.  If our assistance in the rebellion isn&#039;t an ethical use of military force, I don&#039;t know what would be.  

So scorecard: Libya, A for Awesome.  Drug War, M for mixed and PS for politically spineless.  Torture, G for Great Start and NF for No Follow-though.  I still have hope, but it&#039;s tempered with disappointment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have any evidence that Obama is &#8220;telling government employees to ignore the law&#8221;?  The worst I&#8217;ve heard is that the mortgage investigation in understaffed.  </p>
<p>The torture thing&#8230; yeah.  There are no real excuses, other than that of political necessity.  However that doesn&#8217;t absolve him what-so-ever of failing justice, failing America, and damaging our integrity and honor.</p>
<p>The Libyan strikes were most certainly illegal, and no matter how much (a lot) they&#8217;ve been ignored for the past couple of decades, Obama should have copped to it an came to Congress.  Congress were the usual batch of cowardly, sniveling children they have been of late, and didn&#8217;t do anything significant to call him on it.  I would be more concerned about the situation if it hadn&#8217;t been a complete moral no-brainer.  We had a UN resolution, an Arab league resolution, Arab economic and tactical support, Arab *military* support (though mostly symbolic), and the support of most of the world.  Most importantly, we had a mad-dog dictator who publicly said that he would go street-by-street to &#8220;crush the cockroaches&#8221;; which doesn&#8217;t sound so promising as a recipe for flowers, peace and genocide-avoidance.  If our assistance in the rebellion isn&#8217;t an ethical use of military force, I don&#8217;t know what would be.  </p>
<p>So scorecard: Libya, A for Awesome.  Drug War, M for mixed and PS for politically spineless.  Torture, G for Great Start and NF for No Follow-though.  I still have hope, but it&#8217;s tempered with disappointment.</p>
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		<title>By: blissfulight</title>
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		<dc:creator>blissfulight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He could simply pledge not to raid medical marijuana pharmacies or grow operations in the states that have licensed medical marijuana.  Once the word is passed down to the DEA and US Attorneys, it&#039;s unlikely that any political appointee would dare contravene him, and it would slip to the lowest enforcement priority.  He could also move marijuana out of Schedule 1, and he could just shut his mouth (and by extension, the mouths of his subordinates) and quit acting like he didn&#039;t inhale.  If he wanted to open it, he could stop ridiculing legalization efforts and point out the obvious, which is that marijuana is not the demon weed that the anti-drug folks paint it to be, and focusing on suppressing marijuana cultivation has done nothing to alter the price, availability, or potency of marijuana.  I&#039;m really baffled as to why we&#039;re even discussing this.  I don&#039;t like or smoke marijuana, but even I can see that the policy is completely insane, and that Obama clearly just doesn&#039;t have either the courage or compassion to follow through on his earlier pledge, even when they comport with the rational sensibilities that he supposedly was going to use to guide his administration&#039;s policies.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He could simply pledge not to raid medical marijuana pharmacies or grow operations in the states that have licensed medical marijuana.  Once the word is passed down to the DEA and US Attorneys, it&#8217;s unlikely that any political appointee would dare contravene him, and it would slip to the lowest enforcement priority.  He could also move marijuana out of Schedule 1, and he could just shut his mouth (and by extension, the mouths of his subordinates) and quit acting like he didn&#8217;t inhale.  If he wanted to open it, he could stop ridiculing legalization efforts and point out the obvious, which is that marijuana is not the demon weed that the anti-drug folks paint it to be, and focusing on suppressing marijuana cultivation has done nothing to alter the price, availability, or potency of marijuana.  I&#8217;m really baffled as to why we&#8217;re even discussing this.  I don&#8217;t like or smoke marijuana, but even I can see that the policy is completely insane, and that Obama clearly just doesn&#8217;t have either the courage or compassion to follow through on his earlier pledge, even when they comport with the rational sensibilities that he supposedly was going to use to guide his administration&#8217;s policies.  </p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1416084</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 21:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DoJ does have a lot of discretion in picking priorities, but they are required to follow federal law whenever a case is in front of them.  As far as I&#039;m aware, the DEA picks many of their own cases, and then drops them off in the DoJ&#039;s lap.  The DEA&#039;s entire job is to do so, and even by prioritizing other drugs and states without medical laws, there are going to be targets too tempting for even them; like a giant MJ cultivation school, replete with botany garden and growing instruments.  In my experience, the DEA is much more independent than the DoJ, as they almost always have bipartisan cover in Congress.


I think the biggest mistake BoingBoing, commenters, and MJ activists make is one of scale; thousands and thousands of dispensaries, delivery services and medical facilities are going about their daily business with few problems from local or federal government.  These raids are entirely unjust, but they are barely even *desultory* attempts at stopping the medical movement as a whole.  While driving past a dispensary the other day, I noticed a police car parked right in the parking lot in front.  &quot;Oh shiznit,&quot; I thought, &quot;things are about to go down&quot;.Actually, as I later learned by asking a clerk from the dispensary, the owners *ask* the local police to stop by as much as possible, since they view it as a good deterrent against non-medical users.  The same clerk said they had zero concern about a raid from the local or federal authorities; the dispensary owner had been told outright by a federal investigator that if he paid his taxes (on &#039;herbal treatments&#039; or something like) and didn&#039;t cause a fuss, as an honest businessman he was a boon to the community. Anecdotal, but I don&#039;t think people understand the scale of these raids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DoJ does have a lot of discretion in picking priorities, but they are required to follow federal law whenever a case is in front of them.  As far as I&#8217;m aware, the DEA picks many of their own cases, and then drops them off in the DoJ&#8217;s lap.  The DEA&#8217;s entire job is to do so, and even by prioritizing other drugs and states without medical laws, there are going to be targets too tempting for even them; like a giant MJ cultivation school, replete with botany garden and growing instruments.  In my experience, the DEA is much more independent than the DoJ, as they almost always have bipartisan cover in Congress.</p>
<p>I think the biggest mistake BoingBoing, commenters, and MJ activists make is one of scale; thousands and thousands of dispensaries, delivery services and medical facilities are going about their daily business with few problems from local or federal government.  These raids are entirely unjust, but they are barely even *desultory* attempts at stopping the medical movement as a whole.  While driving past a dispensary the other day, I noticed a police car parked right in the parking lot in front.  &#8221;Oh shiznit,&#8221; I thought, &#8220;things are about to go down&#8221;.Actually, as I later learned by asking a clerk from the dispensary, the owners *ask* the local police to stop by as much as possible, since they view it as a good deterrent against non-medical users.  The same clerk said they had zero concern about a raid from the local or federal authorities; the dispensary owner had been told outright by a federal investigator that if he paid his taxes (on &#8216;herbal treatments&#8217; or something like) and didn&#8217;t cause a fuss, as an honest businessman he was a boon to the community. Anecdotal, but I don&#8217;t think people understand the scale of these raids.</p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1416075</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 21:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you mind outlining how he might go about that?  I&#039;m obviously of the opposite opinion, but I would welcome your thoughts on the methods or powers Obama could use to fix this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you mind outlining how he might go about that?  I&#8217;m obviously of the opposite opinion, but I would welcome your thoughts on the methods or powers Obama could use to fix this.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 21:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Enough of my rebuttal comments to her have been deleted to give me the impression that she has official sanction.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You have no comments in the Pending, Spam or Deleted bins, so I have no idea what you&#039;re on about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Enough of my rebuttal comments to her have been deleted to give me the impression that she has official sanction.</p></blockquote>
<p>You have no comments in the Pending, Spam or Deleted bins, so I have no idea what you&#8217;re on about.</p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1416059</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antonius?  Enough of my rebuttal comments to her have been deleted to give me the impression that she has official sanction.

Which I guess doesn&#039;t mean she isn&#039;t trolling, just that it seems in poor taste to troll, and then delete attempts at genuine argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antonius?  Enough of my rebuttal comments to her have been deleted to give me the impression that she has official sanction.</p>
<p>Which I guess doesn&#8217;t mean she isn&#8217;t trolling, just that it seems in poor taste to troll, and then delete attempts at genuine argument.</p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1416057</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do know that, although I think you are vastly over-simplifying the history; the Democratic party also included a large base in the north-east, from which came a lot of the party&#039;s leadership and expertise.  


But seems a straw-man to me.  The parties will change roles and Romney will get liberal?  That seems to be ignoring too obvious, critically important factors; Romney cannot pivot too far to the center and win, and the Republican party is getting extremer by the day and will likely continue until they suffer a massive electoral defeat when they do not have a moderate heading their ticket.

And while Romney&#039;s has to move closer to the center for the election (and his personal politics are probably  more moderate), he will be incredibly constrained with this far-right Congress, which will only get worse if he is elected.  Have you looked at the advisor&#039;s he&#039;s chosen?  A lot of them are ex-Bush administration, and those are the *more* moderate of the bunch.

TL;DR I find your comment completely out of touch with reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do know that, although I think you are vastly over-simplifying the history; the Democratic party also included a large base in the north-east, from which came a lot of the party&#8217;s leadership and expertise.  </p>
<p>But seems a straw-man to me.  The parties will change roles and Romney will get liberal?  That seems to be ignoring too obvious, critically important factors; Romney cannot pivot too far to the center and win, and the Republican party is getting extremer by the day and will likely continue until they suffer a massive electoral defeat when they do not have a moderate heading their ticket.</p>
<p>And while Romney&#8217;s has to move closer to the center for the election (and his personal politics are probably  more moderate), he will be incredibly constrained with this far-right Congress, which will only get worse if he is elected.  Have you looked at the advisor&#8217;s he&#8217;s chosen?  A lot of them are ex-Bush administration, and those are the *more* moderate of the bunch.</p>
<p>TL;DR I find your comment completely out of touch with reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Roman Berry</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1415035</link>
		<dc:creator>Roman Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 00:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I going to vote for Romney? Are lions and tigers vegetarian? You are aware that there are candidates other than Rombama and Obomney, right? I&#039;ll vote for a candidate that actually stands for the kinds of things I believe in...which means that I won&#039;t be voting for the Republicrat or the Demopublican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I going to vote for Romney? Are lions and tigers vegetarian? You are aware that there are candidates other than Rombama and Obomney, right? I&#8217;ll vote for a candidate that actually stands for the kinds of things I believe in&#8230;which means that I won&#8217;t be voting for the Republicrat or the Demopublican.</p>
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		<title>By: VicqRuiz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1414884</link>
		<dc:creator>VicqRuiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 22:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> ..why didn&#039;t it damage him in 2008..

Because he was running against (a) an inarticulate Mr. Magoo and (b) a recession for which exactly 0% of the blame could be assigned to him.  A department store mannequin holding a king-sized bong could have beat McCain in 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> ..why didn&#8217;t it damage him in 2008..</p>
<p>Because he was running against (a) an inarticulate Mr. Magoo and (b) a recession for which exactly 0% of the blame could be assigned to him.  A department store mannequin holding a king-sized bong could have beat McCain in 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1414723</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 19:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is not serious, she&#039;s a troll. Read her comment history (click on the avatar). She has a link to a domain name, so presumably she&#039;s trolling for hits (and readers, likely).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is not serious, she&#8217;s a troll. Read her comment history (click on the avatar). She has a link to a domain name, so presumably she&#8217;s trolling for hits (and readers, likely).</p>
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		<title>By: alconnolly</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1414665</link>
		<dc:creator>alconnolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 19:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an idea to show the political force and scare the democratic politicians. How about people come to the polls and &quot;VOTE&quot; outside of the polls for OBAMA but do not actually cast the vote inside the building, so we have a real count of people who would have voted for Obama but cast a legit (as in I proved I was at the polls on election day) protest vote showing the votes lost. If those votes were enough or almost enough to swing an election. They would be a powerful political weapon. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an idea to show the political force and scare the democratic politicians. How about people come to the polls and &#8220;VOTE&#8221; outside of the polls for OBAMA but do not actually cast the vote inside the building, so we have a real count of people who would have voted for Obama but cast a legit (as in I proved I was at the polls on election day) protest vote showing the votes lost. If those votes were enough or almost enough to swing an election. They would be a powerful political weapon. </p>
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		<title>By: anechoic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1414524</link>
		<dc:creator>anechoic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 17:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the President is merely an actor, a puppet for Govcorp/Wall St...he affects markets and public opinion by opening his mouth but all the real systems exist hidden behind him and are working feverishly to maintain their hold over the fellaheen&#039;s consciousness i.e. profiting from people consuming meaningless garbage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the President is merely an actor, a puppet for Govcorp/Wall St&#8230;he affects markets and public opinion by opening his mouth but all the real systems exist hidden behind him and are working feverishly to maintain their hold over the fellaheen&#8217;s consciousness i.e. profiting from people consuming meaningless garbage</p>
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		<title>By: anechoic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1414508</link>
		<dc:creator>anechoic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 17:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here is a 1992 investigative piece for the Nation on the war on drugs:

http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/Nation030992.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is a 1992 investigative piece for the Nation on the war on drugs:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/Nation030992.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/Nation030992.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: keplers</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1414502</link>
		<dc:creator>keplers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 17:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awesome, thanks for clearing that up! it would&#039;ve been a total shame if i&#039;d read michael&#039;s article and came to the conclusion that obama fucked up. again. thank you also for telling millions of medical patients like me that our health and rights are second term issues, and i&#039;m sure everyone whose jobs and livelihoods are being threatened by the feds are grateful for your empathy as well.

it&#039;s funny that you&#039;d defend a man who ran on an idealistic slogan of hope and change, then tut tut us boingboing readers for daring to hold the president accountable and for being idealistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awesome, thanks for clearing that up! it would&#8217;ve been a total shame if i&#8217;d read michael&#8217;s article and came to the conclusion that obama fucked up. again. thank you also for telling millions of medical patients like me that our health and rights are second term issues, and i&#8217;m sure everyone whose jobs and livelihoods are being threatened by the feds are grateful for your empathy as well.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s funny that you&#8217;d defend a man who ran on an idealistic slogan of hope and change, then tut tut us boingboing readers for daring to hold the president accountable and for being idealistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexicat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1414505</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexicat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 17:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;ramping down defense spending slightly&quot;

Obama is ramping down &lt;I&gt;the rate of growth&lt;/I&gt; of military spending: military spending is still &lt;I&gt;increasing&lt;/I&gt; under his administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;ramping down defense spending slightly&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama is ramping down <i>the rate of growth</i> of military spending: military spending is still <i>increasing</i> under his administration.</p>
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		<title>By: anechoic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1414501</link>
		<dc:creator>anechoic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the Mexican cartels are lobbyists in WDC just like the police &amp; prison unions, big Pharma, alcohol and tobacco companies, oil companies, paper companies, textile companies, construction material companies, etc etc etc --  all of whom work very hard to keep cannabis illegal...

no President will ever reschedule cannabis because if she did too many severed heads would be found along the US Mexican border - and many of them would be US citizens</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Mexican cartels are lobbyists in WDC just like the police &amp; prison unions, big Pharma, alcohol and tobacco companies, oil companies, paper companies, textile companies, construction material companies, etc etc etc &#8212;  all of whom work very hard to keep cannabis illegal&#8230;</p>
<p>no President will ever reschedule cannabis because if she did too many severed heads would be found along the US Mexican border &#8211; and many of them would be US citizens</p>
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		<title>By: keplers</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1414484</link>
		<dc:creator>keplers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no offence but you&#039;re talking about an american political system that doesn&#039;t exist. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no offence but you&#8217;re talking about an american political system that doesn&#8217;t exist. </p>
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		<title>By: millie fink</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/obama-vs-marijuana-what-is-t.html#comment-1414236</link>
		<dc:creator>millie fink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because it still sells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because it still sells.</p>
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