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	<title>Comments on: Update on killing of elderly black Marine veteran by police: no charges will be&#160;filed</title>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/update-on-killing-of-elderly-b.html#comment-1415256</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 07:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It kind of depends on where you live.  Some of the spin and aerobics teachers at the gym here are in their mid-sixties.  Then I see photos of people in the UK who look like they&#039;re 112 and waiting to die, and I read the caption and find out that they&#039;re 60-ish.  And waiting to die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It kind of depends on where you live.  Some of the spin and aerobics teachers at the gym here are in their mid-sixties.  Then I see photos of people in the UK who look like they&#8217;re 112 and waiting to die, and I read the caption and find out that they&#8217;re 60-ish.  And waiting to die.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 07:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A posse of vigilantes is indeed beginning to appear preferable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A posse of vigilantes is indeed beginning to appear preferable.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimmo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/update-on-killing-of-elderly-b.html#comment-1415248</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 07:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Props for the Python reference.

2. I used to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/deadkennedys/riot.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;listen&lt;/a&gt; to the DKs.

3. It wasn&#039;t so much a serious suggestion as an expression of eyeball-swivelling, vein-throbbing, hair-tearing frustration².</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Props for the Python reference.</p>
<p>2. I used to <a href="http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/deadkennedys/riot.html" rel="nofollow">listen</a> to the DKs.</p>
<p>3. It wasn&#8217;t so much a serious suggestion as an expression of eyeball-swivelling, vein-throbbing, hair-tearing frustration².</p>
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		<title>By: Ultan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/update-on-killing-of-elderly-b.html#comment-1415249</link>
		<dc:creator>Ultan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 07:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, 68 is elderly. That&#039;s old enough to have been a member of AARP for longer than some voters have been alive. It&#039;s old enough to get Social Security retirement benefits. It&#039;s 12 years more than his life expectancy at birth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, 68 is elderly. That&#8217;s old enough to have been a member of AARP for longer than some voters have been alive. It&#8217;s old enough to get Social Security retirement benefits. It&#8217;s 12 years more than his life expectancy at birth.</p>
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		<title>By: Ultan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/update-on-killing-of-elderly-b.html#comment-1415244</link>
		<dc:creator>Ultan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 07:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> And what charges were presented to the grand jury? Did they have the full smorgasbord or was it just murder-2? It&#039;s easy for a motivated prosecutor to get an indictment, and it&#039;s easy for a prosecutor to make it clear that she doesn&#039;t want an indictment but is just going through the motions because of political pressure. Not to mention that the prosecutor could just have brought the charges first, and gone to the jury afterwards for those that were felonies. That&#039;s how it&#039;s usually done.

Was it made clear to the grand jury that the cops had no legitimate reason or legal authority to force their way into the apartment? I strongly doubt it. I also doubt that the grand jury heard all the audio.

The prosecutor works hand in glove with these cops all the time, in every case. She ignores when they lie. They or their fellow officers may have dirt on her, but they can certainly make her job difficult in many ways. She&#039;s not going to go after them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> And what charges were presented to the grand jury? Did they have the full smorgasbord or was it just murder-2? It&#8217;s easy for a motivated prosecutor to get an indictment, and it&#8217;s easy for a prosecutor to make it clear that she doesn&#8217;t want an indictment but is just going through the motions because of political pressure. Not to mention that the prosecutor could just have brought the charges first, and gone to the jury afterwards for those that were felonies. That&#8217;s how it&#8217;s usually done.</p>
<p>Was it made clear to the grand jury that the cops had no legitimate reason or legal authority to force their way into the apartment? I strongly doubt it. I also doubt that the grand jury heard all the audio.</p>
<p>The prosecutor works hand in glove with these cops all the time, in every case. She ignores when they lie. They or their fellow officers may have dirt on her, but they can certainly make her job difficult in many ways. She&#8217;s not going to go after them.</p>
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		<title>By: CognitiveDissident</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/update-on-killing-of-elderly-b.html#comment-1415169</link>
		<dc:creator>CognitiveDissident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 03:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s what he gets for interfering with a police officer interfering with him.

Note to medical alert device manufacturers:
Please design a simple-to-lift cover over the medical alert button so that more innocent people don&#039;t die due to police brutality/racism when they roll over in bed and accidentally press the button. 

No charges. At all.  Even with the recorded, racist proof.

Wow. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s what he gets for interfering with a police officer interfering with him.</p>
<p>Note to medical alert device manufacturers:<br />
Please design a simple-to-lift cover over the medical alert button so that more innocent people don&#8217;t die due to police brutality/racism when they roll over in bed and accidentally press the button. </p>
<p>No charges. At all.  Even with the recorded, racist proof.</p>
<p>Wow. </p>
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		<title>By: DevinC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DevinC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree entirely with the view that dramatic court cases are invariably distorted when presented in the media.  The media is interested in an exciting story, one that&#039;ll angry up the blood.  Restraint is a virtue.

But if this case is not cause for outrage, what is?

Many people may indeed be jumping to the conclusion that the grand jury was bent or got it wrong or only saw skewed evidence.  I don&#039;t know.  I am also aware that the law never promises perfection; injustices will necessarily exist in a system designed and mediated by humans, and such are the price iof having any justice at all.  

I do know, though, that if this can happen and no charges are laid, then there is something very, very wrong somewhere.   Something so big it cannot be ignored.  I don&#039;t necessarily have a good idea, from my armchair, of where that monstrous injustice might be hiding.

I am afraid that that which should not be ignored will be.  I fear that perfectly reasonable calls for restraint will be used by those who wish the evil to remain hidden, that some enormity will scuttle again unmolested back to its hiding place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree entirely with the view that dramatic court cases are invariably distorted when presented in the media.  The media is interested in an exciting story, one that&#8217;ll angry up the blood.  Restraint is a virtue.</p>
<p>But if this case is not cause for outrage, what is?</p>
<p>Many people may indeed be jumping to the conclusion that the grand jury was bent or got it wrong or only saw skewed evidence.  I don&#8217;t know.  I am also aware that the law never promises perfection; injustices will necessarily exist in a system designed and mediated by humans, and such are the price iof having any justice at all.  </p>
<p>I do know, though, that if this can happen and no charges are laid, then there is something very, very wrong somewhere.   Something so big it cannot be ignored.  I don&#8217;t necessarily have a good idea, from my armchair, of where that monstrous injustice might be hiding.</p>
<p>I am afraid that that which should not be ignored will be.  I fear that perfectly reasonable calls for restraint will be used by those who wish the evil to remain hidden, that some enormity will scuttle again unmolested back to its hiding place.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gay panic?  I mean, he was in his boxers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gay panic?  I mean, he was in his boxers.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/update-on-killing-of-elderly-b.html#comment-1414828</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 21:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I switched out your three paragraphs of bold to a blockquote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I switched out your three paragraphs of bold to a blockquote.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/update-on-killing-of-elderly-b.html#comment-1414790</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe instead of just assuming based on a couple news articles that the grand jury was horribly biased and wrong, we should assume that they, having seen all the evidence in the case, know something we don&#039;t?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Or we could assume that most Americans are pinheaded lickspittles who do what they&#039;re told by anyone in a uniform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe instead of just assuming based on a couple news articles that the grand jury was horribly biased and wrong, we should assume that they, having seen all the evidence in the case, know something we don&#8217;t?</p></blockquote>
<p>Or we could assume that most Americans are pinheaded lickspittles who do what they&#8217;re told by anyone in a uniform.</p>
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		<title>By: Deidzoeb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/03/update-on-killing-of-elderly-b.html#comment-1414775</link>
		<dc:creator>Deidzoeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democracy Now has audio and video of some of the stand-off, plus phone calls between several parties involved. The really horrible parts are the phone call from Chamberlain&#039;s sister to a police dispatcher, worried that they will end up shooting him. And Chamberlain talking to the medical alert dispatcher, telling how he needs protection from the police trying to bust in his door. Who watches the watchmen? Who you gonna call?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democracy Now has audio and video of some of the stand-off, plus phone calls between several parties involved. The really horrible parts are the phone call from Chamberlain&#8217;s sister to a police dispatcher, worried that they will end up shooting him. And Chamberlain talking to the medical alert dispatcher, telling how he needs protection from the police trying to bust in his door. Who watches the watchmen? Who you gonna call?</p>
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		<title>By: princeminski</title>
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		<dc:creator>princeminski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 20:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>68 is &quot;elderly&quot;? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>68 is &#8220;elderly&#8221;? </p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;According to Democracy Now, lawyers  and family who viewed the video from the Taser stated it showed that when the police entered the apt, Chamberlain was standing quietly facing them, with his arms at his sides.  Then the Taser fires.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;Funny how that part seems to slip by some people.  Actually, it&#039;s not funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>According to Democracy Now, lawyers  and family who viewed the video from the Taser stated it showed that when the police entered the apt, Chamberlain was standing quietly facing them, with his arms at his sides.  Then the Taser fires.  </p></blockquote>
<p>Funny how that part seems to slip by some people.  Actually, it&#8217;s not funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Shanghai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shanghai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 17:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And once they gained entry, they encountered an unhinged, drunken man slashing at them with a butcher&#039;s knife. &quot;

According to Democracy Now, lawyers  and family who viewed the video from the Taser stated it showed that when the police entered the apt, Chamberlain was standing quietly facing them, with his arms at his sides.  Then the Taser fires.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And once they gained entry, they encountered an unhinged, drunken man slashing at them with a butcher&#8217;s knife. &#8221;</p>
<p>According to Democracy Now, lawyers  and family who viewed the video from the Taser stated it showed that when the police entered the apt, Chamberlain was standing quietly facing them, with his arms at his sides.  Then the Taser fires.  </p>
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		<title>By: me_gusta_mucho</title>
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		<dc:creator>me_gusta_mucho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to troll, but I wonder how the delusional astroturfers are spinning this. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to troll, but I wonder how the delusional astroturfers are spinning this. </p>
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		<title>By: Griffon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Griffon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 17:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Grand Jury was also host to a police department telling their side and slanting the evidence, &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; from the victim refuting their claims.

NYDaily News:
&lt;i&gt;&quot;After an hour-long standoff, the cops took the apartment door off its hinges, &lt;b&gt;and shot Chamberlain with a Taser and a beanbag gun&lt;/b&gt; before White Plains Officer Anthony Carelli put a bullet in his chest.

&lt;b&gt;Cops said Chamberlain was coming at them with a knife and a hatchet.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

CBS NY:
&lt;i&gt;&quot;Family members said Chamberlain told officers he was OK, but they insisted on seeing him. &lt;b&gt;Police took the door off and, they said, Chamberlain came at them with a cleaver and a knife.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

No knife, no cleaver.

Democracy Now-Family&#039;s Attorney and former prosecutor:
&lt;i&gt;&quot;&lt;b&gt;And in this case, Mr. Chamberlain didn’t have a gun. Mr. Chamberlain, when I saw the videotape, did not have a knife when he was in his apartment. You see a 68-year-old man with no shirt on and boxer shorts and his hands down at his sides. And I didn’t see any weapon in his hands there.&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;b&gt;And the other thing that’s troubling to me is the fact that a taser was used at all,&lt;/b&gt; because you’re there for a medical response. You’re not there investigating a criminal act. You are there with the understanding that there may be a person who needs medical assistance.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Lindsay Keipper:
&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&quot;What ACTUALLY happened is that prosecutors filed charges, and the grand jury heard the evidence and decided that it didn&#039;t support the charges.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

No.

They likely decided the evidence was not &lt;i&gt;provable&lt;/i&gt; in court, despite the obviously unconscionable behavior of the &#039;cops.&#039; The evidence could entirely support the charges, but proving it in court without a victim only suggests the liars, department dissemblers and gas-lighters from the police department demonstrated the convoluted mess they could transform any attempt at justice.

With hope, the civil trial will produce what a broken criminal justice system and cowardly police force has yet again failed to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Grand Jury was also host to a police department telling their side and slanting the evidence, <i>not</i> from the victim refuting their claims.</p>
<p>NYDaily News:<br />
<i>&#8220;After an hour-long standoff, the cops took the apartment door off its hinges, <b>and shot Chamberlain with a Taser and a beanbag gun</b> before White Plains Officer Anthony Carelli put a bullet in his chest.</p>
<p><b>Cops said Chamberlain was coming at them with a knife and a hatchet.&#8221;</b></i></p>
<p>CBS NY:<br />
<i>&#8220;Family members said Chamberlain told officers he was OK, but they insisted on seeing him. <b>Police took the door off and, they said, Chamberlain came at them with a cleaver and a knife.&#8221;</b></i></p>
<p>No knife, no cleaver.</p>
<p>Democracy Now-Family&#8217;s Attorney and former prosecutor:<br />
<i>&#8220;<b>And in this case, Mr. Chamberlain didn’t have a gun. Mr. Chamberlain, when I saw the videotape, did not have a knife when he was in his apartment. You see a 68-year-old man with no shirt on and boxer shorts and his hands down at his sides. And I didn’t see any weapon in his hands there.</b></p>
<p><b>And the other thing that’s troubling to me is the fact that a taser was used at all,</b> because you’re there for a medical response. You’re not there investigating a criminal act. You are there with the understanding that there may be a person who needs medical assistance.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Lindsay Keipper:<br />
<i><b>&#8220;What ACTUALLY happened is that prosecutors filed charges, and the grand jury heard the evidence and decided that it didn&#8217;t support the charges.</b></i></p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>They likely decided the evidence was not <i>provable</i> in court, despite the obviously unconscionable behavior of the &#8216;cops.&#8217; The evidence could entirely support the charges, but proving it in court without a victim only suggests the liars, department dissemblers and gas-lighters from the police department demonstrated the convoluted mess they could transform any attempt at justice.</p>
<p>With hope, the civil trial will produce what a broken criminal justice system and cowardly police force has yet again failed to do.</p>
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		<title>By: BruceMcGlory</title>
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		<dc:creator>BruceMcGlory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it reminds me of the rapist cop who told everyone he was just &quot;cuddling&quot; with the unconcious woman in her bed.  Uh-huh.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it reminds me of the rapist cop who told everyone he was just &#8220;cuddling&#8221; with the unconcious woman in her bed.  Uh-huh.  </p>
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		<title>By: BruceMcGlory</title>
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		<dc:creator>BruceMcGlory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 17:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol  never had any experiences with cops, huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol  never had any experiences with cops, huh.</p>
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		<title>By: BruceMcGlory</title>
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		<dc:creator>BruceMcGlory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 17:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the Blue Line.  Cops who speak out against other cops lose their jobs.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Blue Line.  Cops who speak out against other cops lose their jobs.  </p>
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		<title>By: BruceMcGlory</title>
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		<dc:creator>BruceMcGlory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the first time I&#039;m geniuinely shocked that a blatant murder by police isn&#039;t going to be punished.   I mean, I expect police to be psychotic bullies - I&#039;m gay and married to a black man so I know first hand how interested in &quot;protecting and serving&quot; the police are (hint:  they&#039;re not). 

But they frigging tazed an elderly man with a heart condition, mocking him and calling him names till they KILLED HIM.  

And he knew that&#039;s exactly what was going to happen.  

it breaks my heart.  Was justice always a fantasy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first time I&#8217;m geniuinely shocked that a blatant murder by police isn&#8217;t going to be punished.   I mean, I expect police to be psychotic bullies &#8211; I&#8217;m gay and married to a black man so I know first hand how interested in &#8220;protecting and serving&#8221; the police are (hint:  they&#8217;re not). </p>
<p>But they frigging tazed an elderly man with a heart condition, mocking him and calling him names till they KILLED HIM.  </p>
<p>And he knew that&#8217;s exactly what was going to happen.  </p>
<p>it breaks my heart.  Was justice always a fantasy?</p>
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		<title>By: Ultan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ultan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there&#039;s still the possibility of federal charges. And &quot;getting in trouble&quot; is not enough, prison is not enough, this needs to be a death penalty case for every officer on the scene and for the dispatch officer (who was advised that the officers on the scene had drawn weapons, that the victim and his family was in fear that he would be shot, and who dismissed those concerns and refused to aid family members in helping to mediate).

USC 241:

&lt;blockquote&gt;If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or  District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or

If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—

They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title orimprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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A much more complete account than that in the news stories linked in this article can be found at: http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/5/exclusive_cop_in_fatal_shooting_of</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there&#8217;s still the possibility of federal charges. And &#8220;getting in trouble&#8221; is not enough, prison is not enough, this needs to be a death penalty case for every officer on the scene and for the dispatch officer (who was advised that the officers on the scene had drawn weapons, that the victim and his family was in fear that he would be shot, and who dismissed those concerns and refused to aid family members in helping to mediate).</p>
<p>USC 241:</p>
<blockquote><p>If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or  District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or</p>
<p>If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—</p>
<p>They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title orimprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.</p></blockquote>
<p>*<br />
A much more complete account than that in the news stories linked in this article can be found at: <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/5/exclusive_cop_in_fatal_shooting_of" rel="nofollow">http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/5/exclusive_cop_in_fatal_shooting_of</a></p>
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		<title>By: shanob</title>
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		<dc:creator>shanob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry but the American people know what is right and what is wrong.  Cops breaking into any sick persons home and tasing them should be a CRIME.  Even if they do not kill that person.  The fact that they broke into the home after the medical device company told them to stop makes it worse.
The cops are guilty of being stupid racist bastards if nothing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry but the American people know what is right and what is wrong.  Cops breaking into any sick persons home and tasing them should be a CRIME.  Even if they do not kill that person.  The fact that they broke into the home after the medical device company told them to stop makes it worse.<br />
The cops are guilty of being stupid racist bastards if nothing else.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay Keipper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsay Keipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 15:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish you were a bit more precise in your wording- &quot;no charges will be filed&quot; implies that investigators/prosecutors decided there were no grounds to bring charges against the officers, which would indeed be troubling and suggestive of bias.  What ACTUALLY happened is that prosecutors filed charges, and the grand jury heard the evidence and decided that it didn&#039;t support the charges.  What happened is horrible and should NOT have happened, but the grand jury decided that this particular tragedy was not caused by criminal acts. 

Hey commenters: the grand jury heard from 42 witnesses, they saw 100 exhibits including the full audio and video that was recorded.  There&#039;s no evidence that anyone was playing hide the ball.  Maybe instead of just assuming based on a couple news articles that the grand jury was horribly biased and wrong, we should assume that they, having seen all the evidence in the case, know something we don&#039;t?  Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish you were a bit more precise in your wording- &#8220;no charges will be filed&#8221; implies that investigators/prosecutors decided there were no grounds to bring charges against the officers, which would indeed be troubling and suggestive of bias.  What ACTUALLY happened is that prosecutors filed charges, and the grand jury heard the evidence and decided that it didn&#8217;t support the charges.  What happened is horrible and should NOT have happened, but the grand jury decided that this particular tragedy was not caused by criminal acts. </p>
<p>Hey commenters: the grand jury heard from 42 witnesses, they saw 100 exhibits including the full audio and video that was recorded.  There&#8217;s no evidence that anyone was playing hide the ball.  Maybe instead of just assuming based on a couple news articles that the grand jury was horribly biased and wrong, we should assume that they, having seen all the evidence in the case, know something we don&#8217;t?  Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: eeyore</title>
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		<dc:creator>eeyore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 15:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In cases of abuse ( or murder ) under color of authority, confirmation bias is irrelevant.  That outcomes like this are permitted to occur *at all* is a huge black eye to police officers and departments everywhere.  

That these guys are not only not being charged, but still being allowed to serve is utterly inexcusable.  They executed a man in his own home - for the crime of being there.  Unless there were extreme exculpatory circumstances (like &quot;he had an assault rifle&quot;).  they should be on trial for man slaughter.  At a minimum, their career in law enforcement should be OVER.  

If you want a more &quot;balanced&quot; portrayal, that is great.  Start posting incidents of officers engaged in abusive or violent behavior that are being rejected and having their genitals nailed to the wall ( metaphorically only, please ).  The problem is, there aren&#039;t many events like that to post.  Hell, even the stories in the news today about corruption in ICE and TSA are about expense fraud, not the greater crimes perpetrated on any americans unfortunate enough to have to enter an airport.

Yes, MOST cops are decent people trying to do a very difficult job, but everyone has bad days.  When your bad day has the potential to make people DEAD you get held to a higher standard.  Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In cases of abuse ( or murder ) under color of authority, confirmation bias is irrelevant.  That outcomes like this are permitted to occur *at all* is a huge black eye to police officers and departments everywhere.  </p>
<p>That these guys are not only not being charged, but still being allowed to serve is utterly inexcusable.  They executed a man in his own home &#8211; for the crime of being there.  Unless there were extreme exculpatory circumstances (like &#8220;he had an assault rifle&#8221;).  they should be on trial for man slaughter.  At a minimum, their career in law enforcement should be OVER.  </p>
<p>If you want a more &#8220;balanced&#8221; portrayal, that is great.  Start posting incidents of officers engaged in abusive or violent behavior that are being rejected and having their genitals nailed to the wall ( metaphorically only, please ).  The problem is, there aren&#8217;t many events like that to post.  Hell, even the stories in the news today about corruption in ICE and TSA are about expense fraud, not the greater crimes perpetrated on any americans unfortunate enough to have to enter an airport.</p>
<p>Yes, MOST cops are decent people trying to do a very difficult job, but everyone has bad days.  When your bad day has the potential to make people DEAD you get held to a higher standard.  Period.</p>
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		<title>By: trees123</title>
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		<dc:creator>trees123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 15:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes, at the end of the day, all there&#039;s left to do is protest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, at the end of the day, all there&#8217;s left to do is protest.</p>
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		<title>By: nox</title>
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		<dc:creator>nox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No... It&#039;s the other &quot;good&quot; 95% protecting the 5% that makes themselves look bad.

Until they start standing up for justice there are no good cops. Right now, those who actually try to serve and protect the people &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-officer-may-be-fired-after-stopping-beatdown,0,2795580.story&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; are fired for it&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No&#8230; It&#8217;s the other &#8220;good&#8221; 95% protecting the 5% that makes themselves look bad.</p>
<p>Until they start standing up for justice there are no good cops. Right now, those who actually try to serve and protect the people <a href="http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-officer-may-be-fired-after-stopping-beatdown,0,2795580.story" rel="nofollow"> are fired for it</a></p>
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		<title>By: donovan acree</title>
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		<dc:creator>donovan acree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 14:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I think I follow your logic kid sampson. The officer showed up. The dead home owner was confused and asked for marine support and presidential intervention while holding a kitchen knife. So, In order to make that situation safe, they shot the man in his own home.

 Closing the door and calling an ambulance so that intelligent and well trained medical personnel is clearly out of the question. After all, cops aren&#039;t trained to back down or to protect the innocent. 

Makes sense. If a man is very very upset and holds a cooking utensil in his own home, their job is to make the situation safe as soon as possible. What is safer than dead after all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I think I follow your logic kid sampson. The officer showed up. The dead home owner was confused and asked for marine support and presidential intervention while holding a kitchen knife. So, In order to make that situation safe, they shot the man in his own home.</p>
<p> Closing the door and calling an ambulance so that intelligent and well trained medical personnel is clearly out of the question. After all, cops aren&#8217;t trained to back down or to protect the innocent. </p>
<p>Makes sense. If a man is very very upset and holds a cooking utensil in his own home, their job is to make the situation safe as soon as possible. What is safer than dead after all?</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Cristofaro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather Cristofaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 14:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s exactly what I was thinking... intent aside— wouldn&#039;t repeated tasing make it impossible for a 68 year old to brandish a weapon with any real threat to these officers?

I don&#039;t get it. Anyone with experience with tasers want to inform? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s exactly what I was thinking&#8230; intent aside— wouldn&#8217;t repeated tasing make it impossible for a 68 year old to brandish a weapon with any real threat to these officers?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get it. Anyone with experience with tasers want to inform? </p>
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		<title>By: Ultan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ultan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 14:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Disqus does weird shit to posts all the time. They usually come back. If it disappears but doesn&#039;t say: &quot;comment removed&quot; then it&#039;s most likely the scripts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Disqus does weird shit to posts all the time. They usually come back. If it disappears but doesn&#8217;t say: &#8220;comment removed&#8221; then it&#8217;s most likely the scripts.</p>
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		<title>By: yadayada</title>
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		<dc:creator>yadayada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 14:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; I am afraid what happened was that the police who showed up were made responsible for making the situation &quot;safe&quot; as soon as possible, and as a result rash decisions were made.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Safe? I don&#039;t think that word means what you think it means.  The victim was safe until they tased him and shot him dead. The police were safe until they fucking broke into the guys house and provoked a confrontation. Ok, they were safe even afterwards, because they were armed.
You are part of the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> I am afraid what happened was that the police who showed up were made responsible for making the situation &#8220;safe&#8221; as soon as possible, and as a result rash decisions were made.</p></blockquote>
<p>Safe? I don&#8217;t think that word means what you think it means.  The victim was safe until they tased him and shot him dead. The police were safe until they fucking broke into the guys house and provoked a confrontation. Ok, they were safe even afterwards, because they were armed.<br />
You are part of the problem.</p>
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