Comments on: Anti-abortion campaigners sink to new depths

By: Diogenes

Diogenes — Sun, 06 May 2012 17:19:00 +0000

But isn’t that exactly the same rationale the anti-choicers are using to justify their wretched images? They’re using disgusting pictures for their shock value, and so is BB. Right?

I think their insane, but I think BB helps their cause by spreading their literature to a much wider audience.

By: Andrew Singleton

Andrew Singleton — Sun, 06 May 2012 16:24:00 +0000

Funny enough it’s christians that ARE getting bullied by these nutjobs worst of all. Take a stance that isn’t as fundimentalist or radacil and you’re treated like a piriah.

By: Andrew Singleton

Andrew Singleton — Sun, 06 May 2012 16:21:00 +0000

Agreed. A text splash does not do the actual image/flier justice. Sure there’s the dead babies but then you get into the rest of the flier itself.

By: Andrew Singleton

Andrew Singleton — Sun, 06 May 2012 16:16:00 +0000

Nah. Just needs to start taking them again.

By: benher

benher — Sun, 06 May 2012 15:35:00 +0000

You know, some of us read BB in the morning, before work, over breakfast… :(

By: holyspigot

holyspigot — Sun, 06 May 2012 05:01:00 +0000

Worked on me. I went right to that donate link on Voice of Choice and put my credit card to good use. You see what a little judiciously applied advertising can do for your cause?

By: John Vance

John Vance — Sat, 05 May 2012 22:38:00 +0000

This is damaging my calm. I say I’m all for non-violence and everything, but then I see shit like this…

“I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.” — Mark Twain

By: Daemonworks

Daemonworks — Sat, 05 May 2012 21:37:00 +0000

Seems like a clear-cut case of criminal harassment to me.

By: Joe The Wizard

Joe The Wizard — Sat, 05 May 2012 21:09:00 +0000

Maybe it’s years of exposure to the internet, but those aborted fetus photos are really doing nothing to me. That’s kind of horrible, isn’t it?

By: Kurt Tappe

Kurt Tappe — Sat, 05 May 2012 19:09:00 +0000

The part you and these nutjobs both don’t get is these ARE NOT BABIES. Go look up the definition of “baby” and find out that it is a BORN individual. If you use the correct terminology then maybe you’ll start to understand what’s really going on.

By: Katherine Hamilton

Katherine Hamilton — Sat, 05 May 2012 18:27:00 +0000

It is perfectly acceptable to feel the way you do about abortion – it is also perfectly acceptable for you to decline ever to have an abortion – what is unacceptable, is elected representatives passing laws which restrict or remove the CHOICE to have one, from women who have been diagnosed with a toxic or otherwise unwanted pregnancy, and who don’t subscribe to the notion that abortion is abhorrent under any circumstances.

If you disagree with abortion, you are exquisitely free to NEVER EVER EVER EVER have one. In this country, choosing NOT to abort a pregnancy, even one guaranteed to kill you, is just as legal as choosing to do so. Isn’t America GREAT!!!!!?

By: asterios9

asterios9 — Sat, 05 May 2012 18:13:00 +0000

@hostile17:twitter - you know, I’m going to go ahead and say it. I am not bothered by the fact that a fetus is a human. I don’t believe in all that soul mumbo-jumbo, so I have to ask what is it about a fetus that gives it rights, exactly.
To me, it seems like people need rights (life, liberty, happiness) because the denial causes them to suffer, and it’s immoral to cause someone else to suffer. But, if the fetus doesn’t suffer, then ???

It seems like the only arguments that the fetus is “sacred” are that (1) it’s human and all human life is just sacred, ipso facto (and we’ll just have to accept that the pro-life movement is fixated on abortion and not war or capital punishment) or (2) it has a soul and some bad metaphysical thing will happen.

Since I find (1) unconvincing and disingenuous and (2) to be an appeal to magic, basically what it seems like you are saying is “I want to impose my personal beliefs on other people.”

By: princeminski

princeminski — Sat, 05 May 2012 18:03:00 +0000

Just saying “Anti-abortion nuts posted bloody fetus pictures in the parents’ neighborhood” doesn’t really convey the vileness of these creeps.

By: Matt Popke

Matt Popke — Sat, 05 May 2012 17:13:00 +0000

I’m sincerely amazed at the the strength of Mr. Stave’s (and his family’s) convictions. I absolutely believe that a reasoned response is the best way to deal with these kind of tactics but I don’t think I would have the strength of character to remain reasonable in the face of this kind of unfounded and hateful attack. Rather than comment on the obvious evil of the flier I really would like to thank Mr. Stave for his steadfastness in the face of this insanity and I hope that others look to him as an example of how to behave in a civilized society, regardless of how they may agree or disagree with him on any one particular issue.

By: chgoliz

chgoliz — Sat, 05 May 2012 15:47:00 +0000

Look at it this way: if you believe in an omniscient, omnipotent god, then you have to believe that your god knows what’s going on and could choose to do things differently — say, by putting a fertilized zygote inside the uterus of a woman who CAN carry the pregnancy to term. So, as the saying goes: let go and let God.

Otherwise, the life of that eventual child is on you. Which means, so is their death. You can’t magically keep people from ever dying, whether while in utero or out in the big bad world. By taking responsibility for “life” away from the woman, you are stepping into that same responsibility. And yet, you are neither god nor parent to that child.

You do not have that right.

By: rhowan

rhowan — Sat, 05 May 2012 13:11:00 +0000

So, you think the punishment for being “irresponsible” should be being forced to accept one of the biggest responsibilities you can have. What now?

And how do you propose filtering out all of those “irresponsible” people from the upright citizens whose contraception merely failed? Perhaps we can have pregnant women be interrogated by some sort of, I don’t know, panel of doctors maybe. I’m sure that’s never been tried anywhere before and that it will work beautifully without any sort of bias or inequity.

Geez people, think your knee-jerk reactions through to their inevitable conclusions before you spill them out on the page.

By: Thorzdad

Thorzdad — Sat, 05 May 2012 12:45:00 +0000

”Plus abortion is way too easy”

Cite?
Even in states where abortion hasn’t (yet) been legislated back into dark alleys, it’s not nearly as easy to get as you seem to think. Further, normal abortions are done long before the fetus has developed into anything remotely resembling a “living baby”.

By: Paul Renault

Paul Renault — Sat, 05 May 2012 12:41:00 +0000

Robert and Eunice Kaplan need to be reminded just how much they have been funding the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis and Afghanistanis, as well as of a few thousand coalition soldiers.

Maybe papering their neighbourhood with similiar pamphlets with pictures of those dead is in order.

By: Mordicai

Mordicai — Sat, 05 May 2012 12:20:00 +0000

Haha, they don’t care about kids, they just hate women.

By: freshacconci

freshacconci — Sat, 05 May 2012 11:35:00 +0000

Well, first, this isn’t an issue about the photos. It’s about the harassment. If you can’t get your point across without sinking to these lows, you may have already lost the argument. Second, as far as “abortion is way too easy – they should see the results of their actions”: the images used by anti-choice groups are always images taken of deformed, miscarried or fetuses aborted in extreme circumstances (mother in danger, etc.). And as for abortion being “way too easy”, maybe you should look into that and see how difficult it often is for a woman to obtain an abortion.

By: hostile_17

hostile_17 — Sat, 05 May 2012 09:48:00 +0000

I’m really liberal in my politics… except for abortion where I seem to be the opposite. I just don’t fathom how it can be so acceptable to kill living babies.

Although getting into a debate on this topic is a path to ruin I know…

As to this poster – well it’s typically extreme, much like most of American politics. But everyone else shows pictures of dying children, starving Ethiopians etc… they’re just doing the same. Plus abortion is way too easy – they should see the results of their actions.

But… cannot… agree… with… religious nutjobs.

Argh my mind is going to explode.

By: EvilTerran

EvilTerran — Sat, 05 May 2012 09:31:00 +0000

Make a respectful, well-reasoned counterpoint flier and go round the same neighborhoods with it?

Even just contacting the targets of this attack to let them know they have moral support could mean a lot to them, if enough people do it; although you may not get through, depending on how much hate-mail this attempt at persecution has prompted.

By: Promit Roy

Promit Roy — Sat, 05 May 2012 07:20:00 +0000

Huh. I live about five miles from the listed address. I wonder if I can do anything to help? Or maybe the right-wing freaks have done more than enough already.

By: eltiki

eltiki — Sat, 05 May 2012 05:45:00 +0000

For what it’s worth, this kind of advertising never works. It usually has the opposite effect.

By: Jade Falcon

Jade Falcon — Sat, 05 May 2012 03:28:00 +0000

Valid point. I wonder how many of these people would want “natural” childbirth (or even c-sections, for that matter) banned if they were shown how graphically nasty they can get.

By: David Witt

David Witt — Sat, 05 May 2012 03:20:00 +0000

As Barney Frank said so aptly, ‘the Republicans think life begins at conception and ends at birth.’

By: Petzl

Petzl — Sat, 05 May 2012 02:03:00 +0000

These people obsess over certain biological/scientific processes (in utero fetal development, 0-6 months) and historical events (Middle East, 0-33 AD) and then are willfully ignorant of everything else (child development, 0-18 years; world history, 14.5 Billion BC-0 AD, 33 AD-present).

By: LinkMan

LinkMan — Sat, 05 May 2012 01:48:00 +0000

All I know is that if we could just get rid of all the oxygen in the air I’m pretty sure the abortion doctors wouldn’t be able to work their evil craft.

By: Nicole Zimmerman

Nicole Zimmerman — Sat, 05 May 2012 01:43:00 +0000

In my town, anti abortion terrorists drive a huge bus around with similar images plastered on all sides and park it across from hospitals, schools, and women’s clinics. I am all for free speech but to me this is disrespectful and shows no care for others.

By: BombBlastLightingWaltz

BombBlastLightingWaltz — Sat, 05 May 2012 01:32:00 +0000

Looks like dead aliens. Thanks for the pictures. We are now scared. Mission accomplished.