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		<title>By: Guido Nockemann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guido Nockemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 12:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lower....in germany their are ca. 3,6 mill. legal wepons and germany has 81 mill. people...that makes 22,5 people of 100 have a gun. 

but the number is in reality lower, ´cause each sport-shooter and hunter  has more then one gun, app. 3-4 guns.

so it will be more like 7-10 people of 100 own a gun.

btw...the handling of a gun at home is also much more restricted then in the most us-staates.  for example, if you don´t have a safe for the gun and ammunition you don´t get a permission to own a gun. and you can only have one for the time you have a need for it. if you quit your shooting-hobby or hunting you have to sell them.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lower&#8230;.in germany their are ca. 3,6 mill. legal wepons and germany has 81 mill. people&#8230;that makes 22,5 people of 100 have a gun. </p>
<p>but the number is in reality lower, ´cause each sport-shooter and hunter  has more then one gun, app. 3-4 guns.</p>
<p>so it will be more like 7-10 people of 100 own a gun.</p>
<p>btw&#8230;the handling of a gun at home is also much more restricted then in the most us-staates.  for example, if you don´t have a safe for the gun and ammunition you don´t get a permission to own a gun. and you can only have one for the time you have a need for it. if you quit your shooting-hobby or hunting you have to sell them.</p>
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		<title>By: retepslluerb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/german-police-fired-85-bullets.html#comment-1423135</link>
		<dc:creator>retepslluerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 08:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our rate of civilian held guns is certainly lower than that of the US, but not &quot;very very very low&quot;.  It&#039;s more like 30 guns per 100 people, as opposed to 90 guns per 100 people in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our rate of civilian held guns is certainly lower than that of the US, but not &#8220;very very very low&#8221;.  It&#8217;s more like 30 guns per 100 people, as opposed to 90 guns per 100 people in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: retepslluerb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/german-police-fired-85-bullets.html#comment-1423134</link>
		<dc:creator>retepslluerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 08:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like when firing 85 bullets into an unarmed suspect? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like when firing 85 bullets into an unarmed suspect? </p>
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		<title>By: retepslluerb</title>
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		<dc:creator>retepslluerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 08:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>German had one of the highest numbers of privately held firearms, though. 

It&#039;s just less visible than, for example, the Swiss practice of making citizens keep military grade firearms at home. But like the Swiss, modern Germans usually don&#039;t romanticize their weapons.

By contrast, look at nearly any gun control discussion among Americans: Sooner or later they&#039;ll draw the “Keep tyrants out” card, despite their fact that neither their women nor their blacks nor their gays got their rights by extensive firefights.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>German had one of the highest numbers of privately held firearms, though. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just less visible than, for example, the Swiss practice of making citizens keep military grade firearms at home. But like the Swiss, modern Germans usually don&#8217;t romanticize their weapons.</p>
<p>By contrast, look at nearly any gun control discussion among Americans: Sooner or later they&#8217;ll draw the “Keep tyrants out” card, despite their fact that neither their women nor their blacks nor their gays got their rights by extensive firefights.</p>
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		<title>By: leidentech</title>
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		<dc:creator>leidentech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 22:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> If your point is that there are no good statistics gathered, then I apologize for my snark.  But the search results of NYC, which are well documented, and Houston, should be enough to extrapolate &quot;insanely&quot; - which admittedly is not a very precise term.

Godwin indeed.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> If your point is that there are no good statistics gathered, then I apologize for my snark.  But the search results of NYC, which are well documented, and Houston, should be enough to extrapolate &#8220;insanely&#8221; &#8211; which admittedly is not a very precise term.</p>
<p>Godwin indeed.  </p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, they&#039;re also made for killing dinner, which may be a more common use in the US than in Western Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, they&#8217;re also made for killing dinner, which may be a more common use in the US than in Western Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: paulo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/german-police-fired-85-bullets.html#comment-1421894</link>
		<dc:creator>paulo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> yeah, i googled just that before i asked, smartass. nowhere are there specific stats for 2011 detailing how many times cops shot people in the US. we can assume it&#039;s higher than germany. are germany&#039;s rates &#039;insanely&#039; lower? no idea. lower, surely. maybe in 3000 years it&#039;ll balance out Auschwitz et al.

Godwin! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> yeah, i googled just that before i asked, smartass. nowhere are there specific stats for 2011 detailing how many times cops shot people in the US. we can assume it&#8217;s higher than germany. are germany&#8217;s rates &#8216;insanely&#8217; lower? no idea. lower, surely. maybe in 3000 years it&#8217;ll balance out Auschwitz et al.</p>
<p>Godwin! </p>
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		<title>By: HahTse</title>
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		<dc:creator>HahTse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 15:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would actually make really good material for an argument against the NRA and for more gun control. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would actually make really good material for an argument against the NRA and for more gun control. </p>
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		<title>By: HahTse</title>
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		<dc:creator>HahTse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 15:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;many admit that they are scared of their own gun.&quot;

...and that&#039;s a a good thing.

Guns are made for one thing, and one thing only.

Killing people.

It&#039;s a good and healthy reaction to fear something with that kind of purpose.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;many admit that they are scared of their own gun.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;and that&#8217;s a a good thing.</p>
<p>Guns are made for one thing, and one thing only.</p>
<p>Killing people.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good and healthy reaction to fear something with that kind of purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: HahTse</title>
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		<dc:creator>HahTse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 15:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which might have something to do with the fact that in Germany, the criminals rarely shoot back.
I guess that &quot;cover fire&quot; accounts for a quite some amount of total shots fired in the US. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which might have something to do with the fact that in Germany, the criminals rarely shoot back.<br />
I guess that &#8220;cover fire&#8221; accounts for a quite some amount of total shots fired in the US. </p>
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		<title>By: HahTse</title>
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		<dc:creator>HahTse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, those LEGO weapons ARE pretty cool.

(I&#039;m German)

And don&#039;t forget who&#039;s the third biggest weapons dealer in the world...you could say that we do what any smart drug dealer does:
We sell, but we don&#039;t use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, those LEGO weapons ARE pretty cool.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m German)</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget who&#8217;s the third biggest weapons dealer in the world&#8230;you could say that we do what any smart drug dealer does:<br />
We sell, but we don&#8217;t use.</p>
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		<title>By: Guido Nockemann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guido Nockemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 11:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok guys, let you tell you something by a german. this rate is VERY low.  the reasons are:

a.) we have a very thight weapon law

b.) the number of weapons, legal and also illegal, is comparing to the US very-very-very-low

c.) german/european police officers are not so trigger happy than in the US.

d.) because the chance to get shoot as a civilian or as a police-officer on duty is, comparing to the us, ...like not existing.

e.) we have a history, not a good one, and we have learned that violence and weapons are not healthy

f.) ...we have cars and the autobahn and NO speed-limit...we DON´T NEED weapons :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok guys, let you tell you something by a german. this rate is VERY low.  the reasons are:</p>
<p>a.) we have a very thight weapon law</p>
<p>b.) the number of weapons, legal and also illegal, is comparing to the US very-very-very-low</p>
<p>c.) german/european police officers are not so trigger happy than in the US.</p>
<p>d.) because the chance to get shoot as a civilian or as a police-officer on duty is, comparing to the us, &#8230;like not existing.</p>
<p>e.) we have a history, not a good one, and we have learned that violence and weapons are not healthy</p>
<p>f.) &#8230;we have cars and the autobahn and NO speed-limit&#8230;we DON´T NEED weapons :-)</p>
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		<title>By: dnebdal</title>
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		<dc:creator>dnebdal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 11:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That has always seemed like a weird policy to me. A warning shot says &quot;I have a working and loaded weapon, and you might want to consider that&quot; - which seems like it could be useful. It&#039;s a way of keeping a situation from changing in a way that will put you in mortal danger, and that&#039;s not without uses to the police.

Of course, there&#039;s the different definitions of &quot;warning shot&quot; - you seem to use &quot;aimed at the person, but not intended to kill&quot;, while the article seems to mean &quot;aimed so as to not hit anyone&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That has always seemed like a weird policy to me. A warning shot says &#8220;I have a working and loaded weapon, and you might want to consider that&#8221; &#8211; which seems like it could be useful. It&#8217;s a way of keeping a situation from changing in a way that will put you in mortal danger, and that&#8217;s not without uses to the police.</p>
<p>Of course, there&#8217;s the different definitions of &#8220;warning shot&#8221; &#8211; you seem to use &#8220;aimed at the person, but not intended to kill&#8221;, while the article seems to mean &#8220;aimed so as to not hit anyone&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: dnebdal</title>
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		<dc:creator>dnebdal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 11:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That has always seemed like a weird policy to me. A warning shot says &quot;I have a working and loaded weapon, and you might want to consider that&quot; - which seems like it could be useful. It&#039;s a way of keeping a situation from changing in a way that will put you in mortal danger, and that&#039;s not without uses to the police.

Of course, there&#039;s the different definitions of &quot;warning shot&quot; - you seem to use &quot;aimed at the person, but not intended to kill&quot;, while the article seems to mean &quot;aimed so as to not hit anyone&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That has always seemed like a weird policy to me. A warning shot says &#8220;I have a working and loaded weapon, and you might want to consider that&#8221; &#8211; which seems like it could be useful. It&#8217;s a way of keeping a situation from changing in a way that will put you in mortal danger, and that&#8217;s not without uses to the police.</p>
<p>Of course, there&#8217;s the different definitions of &#8220;warning shot&#8221; &#8211; you seem to use &#8220;aimed at the person, but not intended to kill&#8221;, while the article seems to mean &#8220;aimed so as to not hit anyone&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: dnebdal</title>
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		<dc:creator>dnebdal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 11:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That has always seemed like a weird policy to me. A warning shot says &quot;I have a working and loaded weapon, and you might want to consider that&quot; - which seems like it could be useful. It&#039;s a way of keeping a situation from changing in a way that will put you in mortal danger, and that&#039;s not without uses to the police.

Of course, there&#039;s the different definitions of &quot;warning shot&quot; - you seem to use &quot;aimed at the person, but not intended to kill&quot;, while the article seems to mean &quot;aimed so as to not hit anyone&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That has always seemed like a weird policy to me. A warning shot says &#8220;I have a working and loaded weapon, and you might want to consider that&#8221; &#8211; which seems like it could be useful. It&#8217;s a way of keeping a situation from changing in a way that will put you in mortal danger, and that&#8217;s not without uses to the police.</p>
<p>Of course, there&#8217;s the different definitions of &#8220;warning shot&#8221; &#8211; you seem to use &#8220;aimed at the person, but not intended to kill&#8221;, while the article seems to mean &#8220;aimed so as to not hit anyone&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: elysian</title>
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		<dc:creator>elysian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 10:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Number of deaths in England and Wales as a result of police shooting: 54 - since 1990.  

(Ref: http://inquest.gn.apc.org/website/statistics/deaths-in-police-custody/police-shootings )

That&#039;s an average of 2 fatal police shootings per year for a population of 54 million people. (I don&#039;t know how many bullets they used, though.)

In England and Wales, the police do not usually carry guns.  Any police shooting tends to be a big news event and lead to enquiries and public uproar.  Last year there were riots after the shooting of Mark Duggan.

(On the other hand, the Northern Ireland stats are different. The Royal Ulster Constabulary fatally shot 51 people during the troubles. Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_use_of_firearms_in_the_United_Kingdom#Notable_incidents )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Number of deaths in England and Wales as a result of police shooting: 54 &#8211; since 1990.  </p>
<p>(Ref: http://inquest.gn.apc.org/website/statistics/deaths-in-police-custody/police-shootings )</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an average of 2 fatal police shootings per year for a population of 54 million people. (I don&#8217;t know how many bullets they used, though.)</p>
<p>In England and Wales, the police do not usually carry guns.  Any police shooting tends to be a big news event and lead to enquiries and public uproar.  Last year there were riots after the shooting of Mark Duggan.</p>
<p>(On the other hand, the Northern Ireland stats are different. The Royal Ulster Constabulary fatally shot 51 people during the troubles. Ref: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_use_of_firearms_in_the_United_Kingdom#Notable_incidents" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_use_of_firearms_in_the_United_Kingdom#Notable_incidents</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: retepslluerb</title>
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		<dc:creator>retepslluerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 09:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the USA is a rich country and can afford a little indulgence and in a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the USA is a rich country and can afford a little indulgence and in a while.</p>
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		<title>By: leidentech</title>
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		<dc:creator>leidentech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 08:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=number+of+police+shootings+per+year+per+state</description>
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		<title>By: Heph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 07:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taser weapons as any distance elekrocution systems are &quot;Verboten&quot; in germany since the 1st April of 2008 according to the WaffG (German weapon law) Suplemetal 2 point 1.3.6 

Iirc §55 fo the same law which regulates the exceptions for the German police forces (among others) doesnt forbid the usage but normaly the allowed weapons are regulated by the 16 federal states in theyr own police laws.

Mostly concerns about the health and safety of the taser-victims keeps our police here fromintroducing those weapons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taser weapons as any distance elekrocution systems are &#8220;Verboten&#8221; in germany since the 1st April of 2008 according to the WaffG (German weapon law) Suplemetal 2 point 1.3.6 </p>
<p>Iirc §55 fo the same law which regulates the exceptions for the German police forces (among others) doesnt forbid the usage but normaly the allowed weapons are regulated by the 16 federal states in theyr own police laws.</p>
<p>Mostly concerns about the health and safety of the taser-victims keeps our police here fromintroducing those weapons.</p>
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		<title>By: paulo</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 07:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &gt;compared to america, it&#039;s insanely low.

and you&#039;re basing this on....?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> &gt;compared to america, it&#8217;s insanely low.</p>
<p>and you&#8217;re basing this on&#8230;.?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 05:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;German cops often say that their weapons training is insufficient and many admit that they are scared of their own gun.&quot;

My take? It seems to work though. If the cop is afraid of their own gun they&#039;ll see it as a last resort option which is only beneficial.

In general it strikes me that in North America there is way too much focus put on &quot;might&quot; when it comes to policing, instead of emphasizing deescalation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;German cops often say that their weapons training is insufficient and many admit that they are scared of their own gun.&#8221;</p>
<p>My take? It seems to work though. If the cop is afraid of their own gun they&#8217;ll see it as a last resort option which is only beneficial.</p>
<p>In general it strikes me that in North America there is way too much focus put on &#8220;might&#8221; when it comes to policing, instead of emphasizing deescalation.</p>
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		<title>By: Dlo Burns</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/german-police-fired-85-bullets.html#comment-1421021</link>
		<dc:creator>Dlo Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So would you say German design favors grace and complexity over durability?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So would you say German design favors grace and complexity over durability?</p>
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		<title>By: Dlo Burns</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/german-police-fired-85-bullets.html#comment-1421015</link>
		<dc:creator>Dlo Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 23:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the bombs were kind of duds...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_balloon
(srsly)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the bombs were kind of duds&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_balloon" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_balloon</a><br />
(srsly)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 22:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d have to be really lucky. Shooting a pistol and hitting a target is really hard and takes thousands of rounds to be really good. Pistol shooting is also a diminishing skill, as in if you don&#039;t practice regularly you can&#039;t hit shit. 

Most police officiers in the US need to qualify with their pistols twice a year. Before the qualifications they are required to practice and they probably fire 300-500 rounds (that&#039;s an estimate). And that&#039;s just for basic marksmanship. 

Having police officers fire only 50 rounds a year sounds irresponsible for when the time comes when they&#039;re going to need to use their pistols.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d have to be really lucky. Shooting a pistol and hitting a target is really hard and takes thousands of rounds to be really good. Pistol shooting is also a diminishing skill, as in if you don&#8217;t practice regularly you can&#8217;t hit shit. </p>
<p>Most police officiers in the US need to qualify with their pistols twice a year. Before the qualifications they are required to practice and they probably fire 300-500 rounds (that&#8217;s an estimate). And that&#8217;s just for basic marksmanship. </p>
<p>Having police officers fire only 50 rounds a year sounds irresponsible for when the time comes when they&#8217;re going to need to use their pistols.</p>
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		<title>By: leidentech</title>
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		<dc:creator>leidentech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Think about it, really... there were X number of moments where German police felt it necessary to shoot at another human being.

Compared to America, sure, it&#039;s insanely low.  But, if you really think about it there&#039;s still 85 times that a cop shot at another human being.

Still insanely high (maybe) - in my humbly and totally straight opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Think about it, really&#8230; there were X number of moments where German police felt it necessary to shoot at another human being.</p>
<p>Compared to America, sure, it&#8217;s insanely low.  But, if you really think about it there&#8217;s still 85 times that a cop shot at another human being.</p>
<p>Still insanely high (maybe) &#8211; in my humbly and totally straight opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Hicks</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/german-police-fired-85-bullets.html#comment-1420756</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 19:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Or European...</description>
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		<title>By: Plut0</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plut0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say: it&#039;s a feature.  

...

No really, with 50 shots you can already kill a classroom full of people. That&#039;s insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say: it&#8217;s a feature.  </p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>No really, with 50 shots you can already kill a classroom full of people. That&#8217;s insane.</p>
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		<title>By: digi_owl</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/german-police-fired-85-bullets.html#comment-1420592</link>
		<dc:creator>digi_owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how many of the crimes were crimes of desperation vs crimes of passion or down right viciousness. And related to that, how the criminal was armed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many of the crimes were crimes of desperation vs crimes of passion or down right viciousness. And related to that, how the criminal was armed.</p>
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		<title>By: digi_owl</title>
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		<dc:creator>digi_owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those two are also fueled by a private army of contractors (more so in Iraq than Afghanistan). Also, i ran into a claim once that the Vietnam war protests mostly ended in USA once the draft was halted. Still, it seems that Europe is sliding back into pre-WW protectionism. Not a happy sight as the generation that experienced WW2 first hand has barely left us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those two are also fueled by a private army of contractors (more so in Iraq than Afghanistan). Also, i ran into a claim once that the Vietnam war protests mostly ended in USA once the draft was halted. Still, it seems that Europe is sliding back into pre-WW protectionism. Not a happy sight as the generation that experienced WW2 first hand has barely left us.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitchell Glaser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitchell Glaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To think this was insanely high you would have to be... insanely high</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To think this was insanely high you would have to be&#8230; insanely high</p>
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