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	<title>Comments on: Open thread: &quot;Same sex couples should be able to get married&quot;—Barack Obama, May 9,&#160;2012</title>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1422405</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 03:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard otherwise  from a lot of gay marriage activists.  Something about visible support from the most powerful politician in the country.</description>
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		<title>By: filebunch</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1422371</link>
		<dc:creator>filebunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 02:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The president didn&#039;t save anyone in the car crash. Gave us his opinion(weak) than said it is not up to him. Later announces it is not part of his platform. Passes it back to the states. He gained campaign dollars. No one else gained anything. Coward. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The president didn&#8217;t save anyone in the car crash. Gave us his opinion(weak) than said it is not up to him. Later announces it is not part of his platform. Passes it back to the states. He gained campaign dollars. No one else gained anything. Coward. </p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421361</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 07:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, but if you think getting gay marriage to be recognized is hard?   Try stripping the word &quot;marriage&quot; from the legal rights associated with it.  


You will go down in history as the least successful politician of All Time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, but if you think getting gay marriage to be recognized is hard?   Try stripping the word &#8220;marriage&#8221; from the legal rights associated with it.  </p>
<p>You will go down in history as the least successful politician of All Time.</p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421358</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 07:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, so we&#039;re not the only country with a liberal-ish PM/President who is very disappointing on many liberal issues?


Thank god.  We were starting to feel like the last person picked for a team in Gym.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, so we&#8217;re not the only country with a liberal-ish PM/President who is very disappointing on many liberal issues?</p>
<p>Thank god.  We were starting to feel like the last person picked for a team in Gym.</p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421355</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 07:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch.  The truth hurts, man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch.  The truth hurts, man.</p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421354</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 07:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By &quot;lip service&quot; do you mean &quot;does he promise things that he may or may not be able to deliver in a timely fashion or at all&quot;?


If so then I want to introduce you to a dictionary and point out the word &quot;politician&quot;, then have you meditate on that for a while.

So the answer is &quot;yes&quot;, but the REAL question after is &quot;Has Obama delivered on his promises more consistently than another politician in his place would or could have done?&quot;

To which the correct answer is &quot;who the fuck knows?&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By &#8220;lip service&#8221; do you mean &#8220;does he promise things that he may or may not be able to deliver in a timely fashion or at all&#8221;?</p>
<p>If so then I want to introduce you to a dictionary and point out the word &#8220;politician&#8221;, then have you meditate on that for a while.</p>
<p>So the answer is &#8220;yes&#8221;, but the REAL question after is &#8220;Has Obama delivered on his promises more consistently than another politician in his place would or could have done?&#8221;</p>
<p>To which the correct answer is &#8220;who the fuck knows?&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421353</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 07:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;ve kind of admitted that, haven&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve kind of admitted that, haven&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421350</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 07:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The constitution also explicitly prevents the federal government from doing that vast majority of the things it does now: environmental regulation, social security, income taxes etc.  It&#039;s what we call &quot;constitutional interpretation&quot;.


If you would have told the founders that their sentence of &quot;all men are created equal&quot; to include women and blacks, there would have been a lot of spit-takes.

I&#039;m not saying this shouldn&#039;t be the correct interpretation, just that you need the right SC Justices to interpret the constitution &quot;the right way&quot;.  

Life is Politics, and Politics is Power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The constitution also explicitly prevents the federal government from doing that vast majority of the things it does now: environmental regulation, social security, income taxes etc.  It&#8217;s what we call &#8220;constitutional interpretation&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you would have told the founders that their sentence of &#8220;all men are created equal&#8221; to include women and blacks, there would have been a lot of spit-takes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying this shouldn&#8217;t be the correct interpretation, just that you need the right SC Justices to interpret the constitution &#8220;the right way&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Life is Politics, and Politics is Power.</p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421346</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 07:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, the SC proposition is CONSIDERABLY more draconian and tyrannical than almost any other of those state&#039;s propositions.  The SC amendment not only enshrines homophobia and hate in their constitution, it actively prevents anything resembling a civil-union for everyone, including straight couples.  No hospital visitation rights, no inheritance, no nothing.  


Just bitterness and despair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, the SC proposition is CONSIDERABLY more draconian and tyrannical than almost any other of those state&#8217;s propositions.  The SC amendment not only enshrines homophobia and hate in their constitution, it actively prevents anything resembling a civil-union for everyone, including straight couples.  No hospital visitation rights, no inheritance, no nothing.  </p>
<p>Just bitterness and despair.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421342</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 07:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you can thank Biden for this more than Obama. He did not just open the window last weekend but actually shouted out of it.

This is a &quot;preemptive strike&quot; by Obama that will result in little real world change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you can thank Biden for this more than Obama. He did not just open the window last weekend but actually shouted out of it.</p>
<p>This is a &#8220;preemptive strike&#8221; by Obama that will result in little real world change.</p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421340</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 07:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.</description>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421337</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 07:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The national polls have been pro-gay marriage for quite a while now.  The problem is that gay marriage has been and is *still* bad with /likely-voters/, who are uniformly older and more conservative than the general public.  Same with the war-on-drugs and a number of other progressive issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The national polls have been pro-gay marriage for quite a while now.  The problem is that gay marriage has been and is *still* bad with /likely-voters/, who are uniformly older and more conservative than the general public.  Same with the war-on-drugs and a number of other progressive issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421334</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand the politics of it, but I don&#039;t agree its a smart move on her behalf. Inner urban votes go to the greens these days? We&#039;ve got one Lower House rep that&#039;s a Green, and a handful of senators. The Green&#039;s never end up with a huge chunk of the primary vote anywhere.

Gillard&#039;s main political problem is that people don&#039;t trust her, it&#039;s not that she&#039;s too left wing. She&#039;d be better of being more left wing and more honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the politics of it, but I don&#8217;t agree its a smart move on her behalf. Inner urban votes go to the greens these days? We&#8217;ve got one Lower House rep that&#8217;s a Green, and a handful of senators. The Green&#8217;s never end up with a huge chunk of the primary vote anywhere.</p>
<p>Gillard&#8217;s main political problem is that people don&#8217;t trust her, it&#8217;s not that she&#8217;s too left wing. She&#8217;d be better of being more left wing and more honest.</p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421332</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 06:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A President delivering on his words?  That would be crazy.  I wonder if we elected Romney, could we get him to repeal that DADT thing?

Wait, what&#039;s that?  It&#039;s already gone?I wonder how that happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A President delivering on his words?  That would be crazy.  I wonder if we elected Romney, could we get him to repeal that DADT thing?</p>
<p>Wait, what&#8217;s that?  It&#8217;s already gone?I wonder how that happened.</p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421327</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 06:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dick Cheney never fucking talked about this while in office!  These false equivalencies are driving me bloody insane!

For god&#039;s sake: a huge push of the Bush/Cheney reelection big was Karl Rove&#039;s BAN GAY MARRIAGE stunt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick Cheney never fucking talked about this while in office!  These false equivalencies are driving me bloody insane!</p>
<p>For god&#8217;s sake: a huge push of the Bush/Cheney reelection big was Karl Rove&#8217;s BAN GAY MARRIAGE stunt!</p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421317</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 06:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an argument to be made that this step is entirely insufficient, an argument I am sympathetic to.  However your metaphor breaks down completely singling out Obama as the person driving us to the &#039;dentist&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an argument to be made that this step is entirely insufficient, an argument I am sympathetic to.  However your metaphor breaks down completely singling out Obama as the person driving us to the &#8216;dentist&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421315</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 06:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;With the stroke of a pen the president can choose to stop &quot;enhanced&quot; interrogations&quot;

Yeah, that box was checked off, like, three years ago?  I won&#039;t argue with the majority of your argument, in fact I agree with most of it very strongly, but this meme that Obama has done nothing to stop the practice of torture is simply false.  Could he do more?  Certainly!  Prosecuting the people responsible would be a huge step, and would also likely end his administration in a matter of weeks.  Congress holds the real power here, or the Supreme Court; Congress could pass a law more precisely defining torture or the Supreme Court could give a judgement classifying these practices as what they are; crimes against humanity, and irremovable stains on our souls.

I understand why people are upset though; this excuse, though I find it to be valid and persuasive, does nothing to dispel the disgrace I feel as an American knowing that my country tortures it&#039;s enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;With the stroke of a pen the president can choose to stop &#8220;enhanced&#8221; interrogations&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, that box was checked off, like, three years ago?  I won&#8217;t argue with the majority of your argument, in fact I agree with most of it very strongly, but this meme that Obama has done nothing to stop the practice of torture is simply false.  Could he do more?  Certainly!  Prosecuting the people responsible would be a huge step, and would also likely end his administration in a matter of weeks.  Congress holds the real power here, or the Supreme Court; Congress could pass a law more precisely defining torture or the Supreme Court could give a judgement classifying these practices as what they are; crimes against humanity, and irremovable stains on our souls.</p>
<p>I understand why people are upset though; this excuse, though I find it to be valid and persuasive, does nothing to dispel the disgrace I feel as an American knowing that my country tortures it&#8217;s enemies.</p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421300</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 06:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you&#039;ve been picketing the banks with Occupy, or volunteering for the few congressmen/women who are pressing the banks/TSA.


Because otherwise...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you&#8217;ve been picketing the banks with Occupy, or volunteering for the few congressmen/women who are pressing the banks/TSA.</p>
<p>Because otherwise&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: R_Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421298</link>
		<dc:creator>R_Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 06:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when, instead of 100 people dying from car crashes, only 90 people die... this is a huge disappointment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when, instead of 100 people dying from car crashes, only 90 people die&#8230; this is a huge disappointment?</p>
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		<title>By: filebunch</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421166</link>
		<dc:creator>filebunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 04:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but this is a major disappointment.  Nothing new here.  How about moving the Democratic National Convention to a state that supports same sex marriage?  That&#039;s right--not gonna happen.  Any president that thinks the states should decide a civil rights issue is clueless.  You missed the whole point Xeni.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but this is a major disappointment.  Nothing new here.  How about moving the Democratic National Convention to a state that supports same sex marriage?  That&#8217;s right&#8211;not gonna happen.  Any president that thinks the states should decide a civil rights issue is clueless.  You missed the whole point Xeni.</p>
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		<title>By: filebunch</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1421163</link>
		<dc:creator>filebunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 04:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please his political base?  He used the word &quot;should&quot;.  He passed the ball back to the states.  His party will hold its convention in a state that just changed its constitution to not allow same sex marriage.  I&#039;m sorry, but this &quot;evolving&quot; position is a lie.  He still holds the same view as he did in 2008. This is nothing to be happy about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please his political base?  He used the word &#8220;should&#8221;.  He passed the ball back to the states.  His party will hold its convention in a state that just changed its constitution to not allow same sex marriage.  I&#8217;m sorry, but this &#8220;evolving&#8221; position is a lie.  He still holds the same view as he did in 2008. This is nothing to be happy about.</p>
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		<title>By: travtastic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1420972</link>
		<dc:creator>travtastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 22:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m more depressed at how emotionally beaten down we are, and hence how low our expectations are.

It&#039;s international news that an American president doesn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;entirely&lt;/i&gt; support legalized discrimination. Bravo, America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m more depressed at how emotionally beaten down we are, and hence how low our expectations are.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s international news that an American president doesn&#8217;t <i>entirely</i> support legalized discrimination. Bravo, America.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 21:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1)  We&#039;re here!
2)  We&#039;re queer!
3)  ?????????
4)  Profit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1)  We&#8217;re here!<br />
2)  We&#8217;re queer!<br />
3)  ?????????<br />
4)  Profit!</p>
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		<title>By: monitorhead</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1420905</link>
		<dc:creator>monitorhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 21:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s cool he&#039;s open to it. As I would presume most people should/would be.   Hilarity and Hyjinx will ensue pretty soon, as the right wing pundits and high profile conservative media people start popping that forehead vein (or having neary coronary attacks) and spitting all over their microphone to get their point across. Better bring a towel to wipe that mic off.. LOL. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s cool he&#8217;s open to it. As I would presume most people should/would be.   Hilarity and Hyjinx will ensue pretty soon, as the right wing pundits and high profile conservative media people start popping that forehead vein (or having neary coronary attacks) and spitting all over their microphone to get their point across. Better bring a towel to wipe that mic off.. LOL. </p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My impression in 2008 was that Hillary Clinton (or John McCain, for that matter) would have gone into a gay bar with a friend if invited, and that Obama would have suddenly remembered that he left the stove on.  So I do think that he&#039;s evolved to the position.  It&#039;s just an impression, but he seemed a bit stiffer a few years back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My impression in 2008 was that Hillary Clinton (or John McCain, for that matter) would have gone into a gay bar with a friend if invited, and that Obama would have suddenly remembered that he left the stove on.  So I do think that he&#8217;s evolved to the position.  It&#8217;s just an impression, but he seemed a bit stiffer a few years back.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackPanda</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1420758</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackPanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Metaphor of the week award. Brap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Metaphor of the week award. Brap.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1420695</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 19:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you think Obama ended &quot;Don&#039;t Ask, Don&#039;t Tell?&quot; &lt;em&gt;So he&#039;d have enough gay soldiers to stage a strong offensive!&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you think Obama ended &#8220;Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t Tell?&#8221; <em>So he&#8217;d have enough gay soldiers to stage a strong offensive!</em></p>
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		<title>By: pjcamp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/09/open-thread-same-sex-couple.html#comment-1420601</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s quite true but, barring sudden heart attacks, he isn&#039;t going to be replacing any of the conservatives on the bench. They&#039;ll hold out for his successor if at all possible. Consider this:

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/grim-future-supreme-court

&quot;We&#039;re approaching a situation where supreme court nominees are approved or not on straight party line votes.&quot; And when the Senate requires 60 votes to even bring a nominee to the floor, party line votes are going to result in extended vacancies on the court. Mourdock, the guy who just beat Lugar in a primary challenge, told Fox News yesterday that his idea of bipartisanship is that Democrats should agree with Republicans on every point. That&#039;s a quite common point of view in the GOP today, and is a recipe for blocking confirmation of every even vaguely Democratic nominee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s quite true but, barring sudden heart attacks, he isn&#8217;t going to be replacing any of the conservatives on the bench. They&#8217;ll hold out for his successor if at all possible. Consider this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/grim-future-supreme-court" rel="nofollow">http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/grim-future-supreme-court</a></p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re approaching a situation where supreme court nominees are approved or not on straight party line votes.&#8221; And when the Senate requires 60 votes to even bring a nominee to the floor, party line votes are going to result in extended vacancies on the court. Mourdock, the guy who just beat Lugar in a primary challenge, told Fox News yesterday that his idea of bipartisanship is that Democrats should agree with Republicans on every point. That&#8217;s a quite common point of view in the GOP today, and is a recipe for blocking confirmation of every even vaguely Democratic nominee.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;He may have just given away the election.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Know what President Johnson supposedly told an aide when he signed the Civil Rights Act? &quot;We have lost the South for a generation.&quot; This turned out to be an optimistic assessment—two generations later the South still remains solidly Republican. But LBJ signed the bill anyway, and it was the right thing to do.

So you might be correct, but I&#039;m still glad our President took the right stance instead of the safe one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He may have just given away the election.</p></blockquote>
<p>Know what President Johnson supposedly told an aide when he signed the Civil Rights Act? &#8220;We have lost the South for a generation.&#8221; This turned out to be an optimistic assessment—two generations later the South still remains solidly Republican. But LBJ signed the bill anyway, and it was the right thing to do.</p>
<p>So you might be correct, but I&#8217;m still glad our President took the right stance instead of the safe one.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 17:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They love using &quot;flip-flop&quot; to describe any politician who changes his mind on any topic, no matter how well-reasoned their new position is. That&#039;s why, in their universe, Bush &amp; Cheney&#039;s refusal to abandon the &quot;Weapons of Mass Destruction&quot; mantra long after everyone else realized it was based on lies and misinformation was a sign of strength, not weakness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They love using &#8220;flip-flop&#8221; to describe any politician who changes his mind on any topic, no matter how well-reasoned their new position is. That&#8217;s why, in their universe, Bush &amp; Cheney&#8217;s refusal to abandon the &#8220;Weapons of Mass Destruction&#8221; mantra long after everyone else realized it was based on lies and misinformation was a sign of strength, not weakness.</p>
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