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	<title>Comments on: Russell Brand testifies to Parliament about drug policy, channels Groucho&#160;Marx</title>
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		<title>By: bumblebeeeeeee</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/11/russell-brand-testifies-to-par.html#comment-1424402</link>
		<dc:creator>bumblebeeeeeee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 13:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as in why he was suitable to speak on the behalf of many others, and why his opinion mattered more cos of his celebrity status. he mentions it in every interview on the matter,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as in why he was suitable to speak on the behalf of many others, and why his opinion mattered more cos of his celebrity status. he mentions it in every interview on the matter,</p>
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		<title>By: Kimmo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/11/russell-brand-testifies-to-par.html#comment-1423150</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 09:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, because watching anything under 480p on the 40&quot; telly I use for a monitor is just bloody awful.

And although 480p might still count as HD for some, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s unrealistic to consider that something of a minimum these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, because watching anything under 480p on the 40&#8243; telly I use for a monitor is just bloody awful.</p>
<p>And although 480p might still count as HD for some, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s unrealistic to consider that something of a minimum these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean McKibbon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean McKibbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 04:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh... it&#039;s been said a few times here. The idea is you admit that when presented with the thing chocolate, smack, French Fries, pot, booze whatever, and it&#039;s right there in front of you, you as an addict don&#039;t have a very good track record of saying no. So instead you put up some barriers. You avoid. Maybe for all you semanticians out there &quot;helpless&quot; is the wrong word. Fine. It boils down to admitting you have a problem saying no. Obviously people who get this aren&#039;t completely helpless, because they start doing things to solve their problem. But they know if they have a jar of peanuts in their house sooner or later that jar is getting emptied. SO instead they don&#039;t buy the peanuts in the first place. Maybe they let their spouse do the groceries, because they&#039;re maybe not helpless, but sorely tempted, weak willed, choose the fricking word that suits for you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh&#8230; it&#8217;s been said a few times here. The idea is you admit that when presented with the thing chocolate, smack, French Fries, pot, booze whatever, and it&#8217;s right there in front of you, you as an addict don&#8217;t have a very good track record of saying no. So instead you put up some barriers. You avoid. Maybe for all you semanticians out there &#8220;helpless&#8221; is the wrong word. Fine. It boils down to admitting you have a problem saying no. Obviously people who get this aren&#8217;t completely helpless, because they start doing things to solve their problem. But they know if they have a jar of peanuts in their house sooner or later that jar is getting emptied. SO instead they don&#8217;t buy the peanuts in the first place. Maybe they let their spouse do the groceries, because they&#8217;re maybe not helpless, but sorely tempted, weak willed, choose the fricking word that suits for you</p>
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		<title>By: teapot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/11/russell-brand-testifies-to-par.html#comment-1423083</link>
		<dc:creator>teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 04:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=0qdNBrzAQjo#t=358s

PS: Thanks Kimmo... this video is awesome.</description>
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<p>PS: Thanks Kimmo&#8230; this video is awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: teapot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/11/russell-brand-testifies-to-par.html#comment-1423071</link>
		<dc:creator>teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 03:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many 30 minute videos of parliamentary testimony have you watched? How many video of British parliament have any of us watched? Brand&#039;s behaviour is what has made this video reach so many eyes in such a short time.

I think you&#039;re missing the point which is just as much about reaching the population as reaching politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many 30 minute videos of parliamentary testimony have you watched? How many video of British parliament have any of us watched? Brand&#8217;s behaviour is what has made this video reach so many eyes in such a short time.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re missing the point which is just as much about reaching the population as reaching politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: teapot</title>
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		<dc:creator>teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 03:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because the pixels affect the message right?

There is a time and place for HQ and parliamentary testimony is not one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the pixels affect the message right?</p>
<p>There is a time and place for HQ and parliamentary testimony is not one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: teapot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/11/russell-brand-testifies-to-par.html#comment-1423068</link>
		<dc:creator>teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 03:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a moot argument. The reason there is a &quot;long violent road&quot; from producer to user is &lt;i&gt;specifically&lt;/i&gt; prohibition. I really get pissed off when people try to use this argument against responsible drug users. The user did not create the black market infrastructure - prohibition did. To turn around and blame the user for something caused by the system is completely asinine.

Demand for drugs will &lt;b&gt;never&lt;/b&gt; go away. Until legal sources exist the black market will continue with business as usual. Until free thinking individuals are given an alternative to buying from the black market, don&#039;t expect us to respond to guilt trips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a moot argument. The reason there is a &#8220;long violent road&#8221; from producer to user is <i>specifically</i> prohibition. I really get pissed off when people try to use this argument against responsible drug users. The user did not create the black market infrastructure &#8211; prohibition did. To turn around and blame the user for something caused by the system is completely asinine.</p>
<p>Demand for drugs will <b>never</b> go away. Until legal sources exist the black market will continue with business as usual. Until free thinking individuals are given an alternative to buying from the black market, don&#8217;t expect us to respond to guilt trips.</p>
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		<title>By: dragonfrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>dragonfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 17:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I kind of suspect they would - if nothing else, many usual excuses (I&#039;d be late getting to work, etc.) wouldn&#039;t apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I kind of suspect they would &#8211; if nothing else, many usual excuses (I&#8217;d be late getting to work, etc.) wouldn&#8217;t apply.</p>
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		<title>By: dragonfrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>dragonfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure he had his suspicions. </description>
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		<title>By: VBartilucci</title>
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		<dc:creator>VBartilucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 15:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The viewing oneself as a powerless victim is one of the things that grinds my gears.  Again, not having had to conquer an addiction may color my opinion, but the thing is, based on that mindset, one NEVER &quot;conquers&quot; an addiction. One lives in fear of it one&#039;s entire life, hiding behind cover, never going near the thing one was addicted of, knowing that just a single taste will be enough to lose control to it again. All the while, having to REMIND oneself they you are worthless and weak. What a horrible way to have to go through one&#039;s remaining life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The viewing oneself as a powerless victim is one of the things that grinds my gears.  Again, not having had to conquer an addiction may color my opinion, but the thing is, based on that mindset, one NEVER &#8220;conquers&#8221; an addiction. One lives in fear of it one&#8217;s entire life, hiding behind cover, never going near the thing one was addicted of, knowing that just a single taste will be enough to lose control to it again. All the while, having to REMIND oneself they you are worthless and weak. What a horrible way to have to go through one&#8217;s remaining life.</p>
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		<title>By: mat catastrophe</title>
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		<dc:creator>mat catastrophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 13:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, I was going to ask if watching this would make me feel that he was any less an annoying twit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, I was going to ask if watching this would make me feel that he was any less an annoying twit.</p>
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		<title>By: Ah El</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ah El</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 10:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recreational weed smoker here. There sure are many people being hurt by the activities of drug cartels, and that&#039;s a direct result of the criminalization. Was the same during prohibition of alcohol last century. Offer legal sources and that problem will solve itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recreational weed smoker here. There sure are many people being hurt by the activities of drug cartels, and that&#8217;s a direct result of the criminalization. Was the same during prohibition of alcohol last century. Offer legal sources and that problem will solve itself.</p>
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		<title>By: kruithoph</title>
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		<dc:creator>kruithoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 07:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely chap, and obviously very grateful to Chip for getting him back to a functional state.

I&#039;m a tad sorry to see that his approach though, seems to remain somewhat symptomatic and after-the-fact: abstinence therapy.

What could really help debates like these is a good analysis of why our culture is conducive to drug-related escapism in the first place. Why do people feel like they need to escape? Could exhilaration and ecstasy be catered for in a less problematic fashion in the first place?

Personally I like the idea that all drugs are simply optional permission slips to get into a state that is more in line with our preference; with our naturally ecstatic and playful selves.

Now if governance were to align itself along *those* lines... I think it can be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely chap, and obviously very grateful to Chip for getting him back to a functional state.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a tad sorry to see that his approach though, seems to remain somewhat symptomatic and after-the-fact: abstinence therapy.</p>
<p>What could really help debates like these is a good analysis of why our culture is conducive to drug-related escapism in the first place. Why do people feel like they need to escape? Could exhilaration and ecstasy be catered for in a less problematic fashion in the first place?</p>
<p>Personally I like the idea that all drugs are simply optional permission slips to get into a state that is more in line with our preference; with our naturally ecstatic and playful selves.</p>
<p>Now if governance were to align itself along *those* lines&#8230; I think it can be done.</p>
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		<title>By: elix</title>
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		<dc:creator>elix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 07:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That (the panty-twisting and so on) will be an interesting development in the context of something going on in Canada right now -- which is to say, the oral arguments in the appeal against the ruling of &lt;i&gt;R v Mernagh&lt;/i&gt; finished on Tuesday this past week (May 8), and we&#039;re now waiting for the results of the appeal, expected probably in the summer.


A quick refresher: R v Mernagh is an Ontario criminal court case where Matt Mernagh was busted for cultivation and possession of cannabis. He argued, and Judge Taliano agreed, that Ontario&#039;s medical marijuana program was fundamentally broken (the problem was, finding a doctor who would sign your paperwork was near-impossible) and was built as an illusion to prop up continuing prohibition. Judge Taliano proceeded to strike down the Ontario MMJ program as unconstitutional, and then went and struck down the personal possession and cultivation sections of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, and he instructed the Crown to come up with a better program, with a 90-day deadline. The government appealed, and after over a year of delays, the oral hearing was held and thousands of pages of documents are in. If the appeal is ruled in favour of Mernagh, then things get interesting.


It&#039;s going to be interesting to see this next decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That (the panty-twisting and so on) will be an interesting development in the context of something going on in Canada right now &#8212; which is to say, the oral arguments in the appeal against the ruling of <i>R v Mernagh</i> finished on Tuesday this past week (May 8), and we&#8217;re now waiting for the results of the appeal, expected probably in the summer.</p>
<p>A quick refresher: R v Mernagh is an Ontario criminal court case where Matt Mernagh was busted for cultivation and possession of cannabis. He argued, and Judge Taliano agreed, that Ontario&#8217;s medical marijuana program was fundamentally broken (the problem was, finding a doctor who would sign your paperwork was near-impossible) and was built as an illusion to prop up continuing prohibition. Judge Taliano proceeded to strike down the Ontario MMJ program as unconstitutional, and then went and struck down the personal possession and cultivation sections of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, and he instructed the Crown to come up with a better program, with a 90-day deadline. The government appealed, and after over a year of delays, the oral hearing was held and thousands of pages of documents are in. If the appeal is ruled in favour of Mernagh, then things get interesting.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to be interesting to see this next decade.</p>
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		<title>By: PNWchemist</title>
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		<dc:creator>PNWchemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 01:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in reply to MGB look at the effect the IMF had on Argentina, it takes economic policies to ravage a country that thoroughly. You&#039;re living in a different world if you don&#039;t think capitalism seriously hurts a lot of people and destroys quality of life for many many people. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in reply to MGB look at the effect the IMF had on Argentina, it takes economic policies to ravage a country that thoroughly. You&#8217;re living in a different world if you don&#8217;t think capitalism seriously hurts a lot of people and destroys quality of life for many many people. </p>
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		<title>By: PNWchemist</title>
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		<dc:creator>PNWchemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 00:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cartel drugs are typically low quality, the harder drugs i use are pharmaceuticals. i am not particularly found of putting substances that i&#039;m sure were processed with low quality reagents in a shack in south america into my body, and I wont touch illicit amphetamines or opiates due mostly to trouble with regulating dosage and of course contaminants. (cartel weed is shitty weed, i have had it once and we smoked 2 grams and only felt mild effects for about an hour, it just wasn&#039;t even worth the effort.)

Anyway aside from health concerns, the only reason the cartel is making so much money off of illicit drugs is because they are illicit. I think people need to be given the right to choose to put any substance they&#039;d like into their body without paying an inflated black market price or even an inflated pharmaceutical price.

I know personally i enjoy a chemical vacation on the weekend here and there, or a wonderful visual heavy hallucination, or perhaps even a dull euphoric opiate induced haze. I understand there is a lot of problems with people not having the knowledge necessary to regulate their use of drugs and prevent harm.

consider the number of people who give themselves liver failure using acetaminophen every year, yet acetaminophen is put into percocet tablets to prevent abuse, also it&#039;s difficult to find cough syrups or tablets containing only Dextromorphan HBr A commonly abused cough syrup ingredient. If you haven&#039;t noticed the dose of acetaminophen in you NyQuil bottle per 30ml is now 650mg instead of 1000mg, this due to people giving themselves liver damage, additionally all OTC dosages of acetaminophen are being lowered because people cannot seem to understand the max 1g dose, and no more than 4g per day. The point is fewer people would harmed if substance for recreational use were available for that purpose. because making it more difficult/dangerous does not mean people wont do it anyway. 

Also you wear clothes that were sewn together by poor children in the third world, does that mean you made them do it? did you personally exploit them? perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cartel drugs are typically low quality, the harder drugs i use are pharmaceuticals. i am not particularly found of putting substances that i&#8217;m sure were processed with low quality reagents in a shack in south america into my body, and I wont touch illicit amphetamines or opiates due mostly to trouble with regulating dosage and of course contaminants. (cartel weed is shitty weed, i have had it once and we smoked 2 grams and only felt mild effects for about an hour, it just wasn&#8217;t even worth the effort.)</p>
<p>Anyway aside from health concerns, the only reason the cartel is making so much money off of illicit drugs is because they are illicit. I think people need to be given the right to choose to put any substance they&#8217;d like into their body without paying an inflated black market price or even an inflated pharmaceutical price.</p>
<p>I know personally i enjoy a chemical vacation on the weekend here and there, or a wonderful visual heavy hallucination, or perhaps even a dull euphoric opiate induced haze. I understand there is a lot of problems with people not having the knowledge necessary to regulate their use of drugs and prevent harm.</p>
<p>consider the number of people who give themselves liver failure using acetaminophen every year, yet acetaminophen is put into percocet tablets to prevent abuse, also it&#8217;s difficult to find cough syrups or tablets containing only Dextromorphan HBr A commonly abused cough syrup ingredient. If you haven&#8217;t noticed the dose of acetaminophen in you NyQuil bottle per 30ml is now 650mg instead of 1000mg, this due to people giving themselves liver damage, additionally all OTC dosages of acetaminophen are being lowered because people cannot seem to understand the max 1g dose, and no more than 4g per day. The point is fewer people would harmed if substance for recreational use were available for that purpose. because making it more difficult/dangerous does not mean people wont do it anyway. </p>
<p>Also you wear clothes that were sewn together by poor children in the third world, does that mean you made them do it? did you personally exploit them? perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 00:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My issue with it (and I know a lot of people in the program) is that the whole surrender thing encourages people who have spent their lives sleazing out of responsibility to have an organized forum for continuing to sleaze out of responsibility.  Many of them manage not to drink or take drugs, but view themselves as victims and screw up every other aspect of their lives with that mindset.  I tend to think that people who succeed or fail with the program would have succeeded or failed without it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My issue with it (and I know a lot of people in the program) is that the whole surrender thing encourages people who have spent their lives sleazing out of responsibility to have an organized forum for continuing to sleaze out of responsibility.  Many of them manage not to drink or take drugs, but view themselves as victims and screw up every other aspect of their lives with that mindset.  I tend to think that people who succeed or fail with the program would have succeeded or failed without it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Burton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 00:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Equating even very bad working conditions with the level of violence in the drug trade is incredibly callous and straight-up wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Equating even very bad working conditions with the level of violence in the drug trade is incredibly callous and straight-up wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: BunnyShank</title>
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		<dc:creator>BunnyShank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 23:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well look, if you examine rage addiction in someone, or domestic violence say, it can be very similar. One recognizes that one is helpless against the problem (the idea that one can control another), and cannot put themselves in situations where one indulges and must at all cost take care of themselves to not put themselves in that position (this may include prayer, walking in nature, whatever for someone). The &quot;helplessness&quot; applies to the idea of power and control derived from engaging in an addiction, something people who do not engage in addiction already know. We are all &quot;helpless&quot; in the sense that none of us are the center of universe, and must interact and engage in the whole, in a mutually respectful way in order to connect with a self that is authentic. None of that has to happen with a religious belief. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well look, if you examine rage addiction in someone, or domestic violence say, it can be very similar. One recognizes that one is helpless against the problem (the idea that one can control another), and cannot put themselves in situations where one indulges and must at all cost take care of themselves to not put themselves in that position (this may include prayer, walking in nature, whatever for someone). The &#8220;helplessness&#8221; applies to the idea of power and control derived from engaging in an addiction, something people who do not engage in addiction already know. We are all &#8220;helpless&#8221; in the sense that none of us are the center of universe, and must interact and engage in the whole, in a mutually respectful way in order to connect with a self that is authentic. None of that has to happen with a religious belief. </p>
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		<title>By: marilove</title>
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		<dc:creator>marilove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 23:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that doesn&#039;t sit well with me, either.  One of the problems I have with most religions is the notion that you are &quot;helpless to yourself&quot; and that you need a &quot;higher power&quot; to instruct your life, and if you don&#039;t have a &quot;higher power&quot;, your life is meaningless with a heavy heaping of &quot;if you don&#039;t have a higher power, you&#039;re a terrible person who probably deserves the addiction.&quot;  It&#039;s manipulative, imo.

And as VBartilucci said, admitting you need assistance, and getting that assistance, does not mean you are &quot;helpless&quot;.  In fact, that is one of the hardest things about addiction, and finally admitting that you need support can be very difficult, especially in our society, which VERY MUCH shuns and shames addicts.  Having the courage to get help is not a helpless act.

I think, under it all, most people can overcome great odds, if they have support.  AA provides that support (while being anonymous, so one can avoid some of the stigma -- which is important to remember, because stigma does not promote recovery), and I think that&#039;s why it&#039;s successful for some people.

The research done on AA indicates that it&#039;s not really any more successful than anything else.  I think those who do succeed, do so because they do well in that kind of environment, with lots of rules and re-enforcement from your peers, and, most importantly, a desire to become sober. 

Kicking addiction requires desire, education, and support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that doesn&#8217;t sit well with me, either.  One of the problems I have with most religions is the notion that you are &#8220;helpless to yourself&#8221; and that you need a &#8220;higher power&#8221; to instruct your life, and if you don&#8217;t have a &#8220;higher power&#8221;, your life is meaningless with a heavy heaping of &#8220;if you don&#8217;t have a higher power, you&#8217;re a terrible person who probably deserves the addiction.&#8221;  It&#8217;s manipulative, imo.</p>
<p>And as VBartilucci said, admitting you need assistance, and getting that assistance, does not mean you are &#8220;helpless&#8221;.  In fact, that is one of the hardest things about addiction, and finally admitting that you need support can be very difficult, especially in our society, which VERY MUCH shuns and shames addicts.  Having the courage to get help is not a helpless act.</p>
<p>I think, under it all, most people can overcome great odds, if they have support.  AA provides that support (while being anonymous, so one can avoid some of the stigma &#8212; which is important to remember, because stigma does not promote recovery), and I think that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s successful for some people.</p>
<p>The research done on AA indicates that it&#8217;s not really any more successful than anything else.  I think those who do succeed, do so because they do well in that kind of environment, with lots of rules and re-enforcement from your peers, and, most importantly, a desire to become sober. </p>
<p>Kicking addiction requires desire, education, and support.</p>
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		<title>By: marilove</title>
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		<dc:creator>marilove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 23:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s ridiculously self-aware and honest which is very refreshing when it comes to a celebrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s ridiculously self-aware and honest which is very refreshing when it comes to a celebrity.</p>
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		<title>By: marilove</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/11/russell-brand-testifies-to-par.html#comment-1422745</link>
		<dc:creator>marilove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 23:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All great points, truly.But do you have a smartphone?  An iPad? A laptop?  The conditions in which most of the stuff is made are pretty fucking terrible.

I mean, I own that stuff too (or would if I weren&#039;t broke, lulz).  I&#039;m not judging you.  But you shouldn&#039;t judge either, really, all things considered.  This society is pretty fucked up in terms of capitalism and consumption and the harm it does.

Also, I know that, when it comes to medical/legal weed, people will gladly buy from legit sources, and that has to effect the black market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All great points, truly.But do you have a smartphone?  An iPad? A laptop?  The conditions in which most of the stuff is made are pretty fucking terrible.</p>
<p>I mean, I own that stuff too (or would if I weren&#8217;t broke, lulz).  I&#8217;m not judging you.  But you shouldn&#8217;t judge either, really, all things considered.  This society is pretty fucked up in terms of capitalism and consumption and the harm it does.</p>
<p>Also, I know that, when it comes to medical/legal weed, people will gladly buy from legit sources, and that has to effect the black market.</p>
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		<title>By: VBartilucci</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/05/11/russell-brand-testifies-to-par.html#comment-1422739</link>
		<dc:creator>VBartilucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 22:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it&#039;s just because of my own inflated self-esteem (and having necer been addicted to anything), but I&#039;ve never grasped how declaring yourself &quot;helpless&quot; can ever make a problem easier to solve.  

That&#039;s quite a difference from admitting you need assistance.  There are lots of things that one cannot do alone (The Tango comes to mind), and until one admits that assistance of some amount is required, little will get done.

Bear in mind, I&#039;m NOT an atheist. I was raised in the HRCC, and it&#039;s the dogma set I most identify with (save for a few things like the hatred of gays and all).  But I view God as an assistant, and not one to put in charge.  &quot;Jesus, help me on my way&quot; as opposed to &quot;Jesus Take The Wheel&quot;, if you see the difference.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s just because of my own inflated self-esteem (and having necer been addicted to anything), but I&#8217;ve never grasped how declaring yourself &#8220;helpless&#8221; can ever make a problem easier to solve.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s quite a difference from admitting you need assistance.  There are lots of things that one cannot do alone (The Tango comes to mind), and until one admits that assistance of some amount is required, little will get done.</p>
<p>Bear in mind, I&#8217;m NOT an atheist. I was raised in the HRCC, and it&#8217;s the dogma set I most identify with (save for a few things like the hatred of gays and all).  But I view God as an assistant, and not one to put in charge.  &#8220;Jesus, help me on my way&#8221; as opposed to &#8220;Jesus Take The Wheel&#8221;, if you see the difference.  </p>
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		<title>By: Katie Lacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie Lacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 22:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course I don&#039;t know what recreational drugs you use/have used, and you are probably a thoughtful and responsible consumer, but remember that just because you don&#039;t see recreational drug use hurting anyone doesn&#039;t mean it isn&#039;t.  If you can grow things or make things yourself (or your friends can), good for you, but many drugs have a long, violent road to their end users.  If certain illegal recreational drugs were legalized there may be less egregious violence involved in their distribution, but currently they are not and many people are injured or killed due to massive demand for drugs (look at Ciudad Juarez, for example).  Purchasing drugs that emerged from cartels (and according to Wikipedia, most drugs in America do) feeds that violence, even if you can&#039;t see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I don&#8217;t know what recreational drugs you use/have used, and you are probably a thoughtful and responsible consumer, but remember that just because you don&#8217;t see recreational drug use hurting anyone doesn&#8217;t mean it isn&#8217;t.  If you can grow things or make things yourself (or your friends can), good for you, but many drugs have a long, violent road to their end users.  If certain illegal recreational drugs were legalized there may be less egregious violence involved in their distribution, but currently they are not and many people are injured or killed due to massive demand for drugs (look at Ciudad Juarez, for example).  Purchasing drugs that emerged from cartels (and according to Wikipedia, most drugs in America do) feeds that violence, even if you can&#8217;t see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Spinczyk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian Spinczyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 21:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I&#039;m an atheist myself, but I feel many criticisms in this vein against the 12 steps to be overblown. Sure, it&#039;s not the right thing for everyone (but then, what is).
But the main point of submitting to a &quot;higher force&quot; (which does *not* have to be god/s) is admitting (and realizing) your own helplessness in face of the addiction, in order to reclaim agency.
Sure, insufferable pricks like Penn Jillette might tell you otherwise - but that&#039;s mostly because the disease model of addiction runs contrary to their own little cultish dogmas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I&#8217;m an atheist myself, but I feel many criticisms in this vein against the 12 steps to be overblown. Sure, it&#8217;s not the right thing for everyone (but then, what is).<br />
But the main point of submitting to a &#8220;higher force&#8221; (which does *not* have to be god/s) is admitting (and realizing) your own helplessness in face of the addiction, in order to reclaim agency.<br />
Sure, insufferable pricks like Penn Jillette might tell you otherwise &#8211; but that&#8217;s mostly because the disease model of addiction runs contrary to their own little cultish dogmas.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Cosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Cosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 21:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, have never fucked up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, have never fucked up.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Cosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Cosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brand makes it clear at several points that addiction is a disease that not everyone is susceptible to, and that efforts to combat harmful drug use should focus on people at risk, and suffering from, addiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brand makes it clear at several points that addiction is a disease that not everyone is susceptible to, and that efforts to combat harmful drug use should focus on people at risk, and suffering from, addiction.</p>
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		<title>By: PNWchemist</title>
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		<dc:creator>PNWchemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 20:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a recreational drug user, I feel Brand&#039;s testimony doesn&#039;t argue enough for the fact that some people do drugs not because they are unhappy but because drugs are fun. I think people just don&#039;t like to admit that for some people it&#039;s occasionally fun to use a mind altering substance. My recreational drug use hasn&#039;t ever harmed me or anyone else and that&#039;s only because I&#039;ve been lucky enough to never have had a run in with the police. 
Some people can use drugs for fun and not lose control. 

Edit: i now watched the video to the end(i was listening while i typed that bit above.) Brand does mention that some people can use drugs and remain functionally productive happy people and other&#039;s cannot. He stresses the most important point that decriminalization will allow them to focus state funds more effectively and improve peoples&#039; lives. 

Though his messages is hard to criticize because he argued for quite reasonable drug policy I really do wish the message that not all people are naturally addicts got a bit more lip service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a recreational drug user, I feel Brand&#8217;s testimony doesn&#8217;t argue enough for the fact that some people do drugs not because they are unhappy but because drugs are fun. I think people just don&#8217;t like to admit that for some people it&#8217;s occasionally fun to use a mind altering substance. My recreational drug use hasn&#8217;t ever harmed me or anyone else and that&#8217;s only because I&#8217;ve been lucky enough to never have had a run in with the police. <br />
Some people can use drugs for fun and not lose control. </p>
<p>Edit: i now watched the video to the end(i was listening while i typed that bit above.) Brand does mention that some people can use drugs and remain functionally productive happy people and other&#8217;s cannot. He stresses the most important point that decriminalization will allow them to focus state funds more effectively and improve peoples&#8217; lives. </p>
<p>Though his messages is hard to criticize because he argued for quite reasonable drug policy I really do wish the message that not all people are naturally addicts got a bit more lip service.</p>
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		<title>By: hypnosifl</title>
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		<dc:creator>hypnosifl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 20:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People may not like to waste time listening to someone because they find it boring or it uses up time they had plans to make use of a different way on that particular day, but justifying it in terms of the finite human lifespan seems like sophistry too (edit: &quot;sophistry&quot; was in reference to an exchange retepslluerb had with another commenter that has since been deleted) --an hour of &quot;wasted&quot; time works out to about 1 millionth of an 80-year lifespan, and if people really cared so much about using every hour of their life productively they wouldn&#039;t spend so much of it on leisure activities. Besides, do you think if medical science found a way to halt aging, everyone&#039;s tolerance for spending a lot of time listening to people they found boring/irritating would suddenly skyrocket?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People may not like to waste time listening to someone because they find it boring or it uses up time they had plans to make use of a different way on that particular day, but justifying it in terms of the finite human lifespan seems like sophistry too (edit: &#8220;sophistry&#8221; was in reference to an exchange retepslluerb had with another commenter that has since been deleted) &#8211;an hour of &#8220;wasted&#8221; time works out to about 1 millionth of an 80-year lifespan, and if people really cared so much about using every hour of their life productively they wouldn&#8217;t spend so much of it on leisure activities. Besides, do you think if medical science found a way to halt aging, everyone&#8217;s tolerance for spending a lot of time listening to people they found boring/irritating would suddenly skyrocket?</p>
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		<title>By: bumblebeeeeeee</title>
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		<dc:creator>bumblebeeeeeee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 19:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the stat is 30% of eligible voted in recent local elections. That&#039;s average for the UK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the stat is 30% of eligible voted in recent local elections. That&#8217;s average for the UK.</p>
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