Comments on: Occupy footage exonerates journalist; cop lied under oath

By: mistermarkdavis

mistermarkdavis — Mon, 21 May 2012 05:10:00 +0000

I happen to be a resident of NYC. I can tell you what generally happens in these mass arrests is that lot of people are rounded up and then handed off to individual cops as arresting officiers even though they didn’t really arrest them, buit they do for the paper work.

These arrests are mostly lies. the arresting officer makes up a probable story. some of these lies lead to pleas some lead to ACDs.

By: Anon_Mahna

Anon_Mahna — Thu, 17 May 2012 14:43:00 +0000

What nonsense is this?! Insisting LEOs be held to the law instead of letting them be above it? That’s madness!

By: niktemadur

niktemadur — Thu, 17 May 2012 01:36:00 +0000

Going after Roger Clemens will ensure a better future for us all. Now THAT’S a perjury case of the most vile, heinous kind.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ll go back to reading my Kindle book, “Quotes by Marie Antoinette”.

EDIT: Whoops, wrong reference, I was going for bread and circus, not cake.

By: skyhawk1

skyhawk1 — Thu, 17 May 2012 00:23:00 +0000

All occupiers if possible should keep a video diary.

By: miasm

miasm — Wed, 16 May 2012 22:45:00 +0000

now, if you’ll all just walk to the edge of the city in which you live and help wall yourselves in; we can forgoe the unsavory task of due process.

By: Robert Baruch

Robert Baruch — Wed, 16 May 2012 22:41:00 +0000

“Oh, there was a problem with the camera. We don’t have the footage you need.”

By: Robert Baruch

Robert Baruch — Wed, 16 May 2012 22:40:00 +0000

What, the steroids, lying about them, or going after the liars?

By: EH

EH — Wed, 16 May 2012 22:31:00 +0000

I don’t think it’s a matter of stupidity, as good as condescension feels, but of cognitive something or other.

By: 106milesite

106milesite — Wed, 16 May 2012 22:26:00 +0000

Worth noting here that DOJ has come out with a May 14, 2012 letter to the Baltimore City Police taking the position that citizens have the right to record police officers. http://www.pixiq.com/sites/default/files/united_states_letter_re_photography_5_14_2012_0.pdf
http://www.pixiq.com/article/department-of-justice-slaps-baltimore-pd
Items like the above BoingBoing article show why this right is so important.

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Wed, 16 May 2012 22:15:00 +0000

UK courts sometimes seem to give longer sentences for perverting the course of justice than they do for violent crimes. Let’s see how that works for Rebekah Brooks.

By: catherinecc

catherinecc — Wed, 16 May 2012 22:12:00 +0000

Nonsense. That would be true if she was charged with perjury. She hasn’t been and she won’t because the system silently sanctions such actions. The case went to trial despite evidence of his innocence.

That’s why the system is corrupt. And the whole “targeting media” thing that we’re doing over here…

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Wed, 16 May 2012 21:51:00 +0000

It’s for the children.

By: Cooper DiBiase

Cooper DiBiase — Wed, 16 May 2012 21:40:00 +0000

And how.

By: catherinecc

catherinecc — Wed, 16 May 2012 21:02:00 +0000

Sadly, this tactic works reliably. People are stupid.

By: EH

EH — Wed, 16 May 2012 20:52:00 +0000

Yes, the more you snow the news with actions against contrived issues, the less attention will be paid to the actual issues that affect NYC’s citizens.

By: travtastic

travtastic — Wed, 16 May 2012 20:02:00 +0000

Does one thing have something to do with the other?

By: Jim Strathmeyer

Jim Strathmeyer — Wed, 16 May 2012 19:38:00 +0000

No they’ll just all learn a good lesson about being better at getting away with it. Everyone’ll have a good laugh, it could happen to anybody.

By: Jim Strathmeyer

Jim Strathmeyer — Wed, 16 May 2012 19:37:00 +0000

Uh, no, Joshua, it’s taught an learned behavior. If a cop refuses to do it, or suggests that it is wrong, they are kicked out of the force (and are, quite frankly, lucky they aren’t killed or locked up in a mental institution for showing they are ‘unfit for duty’ by implying that cops should have some honor.

By: lafave

lafave — Wed, 16 May 2012 19:29:00 +0000

it’s (supposed to be) a serious offense here as well – sanctity of the courts and all that, but different set of rules for the watchmen unfortunately.

By: lafave

lafave — Wed, 16 May 2012 19:26:00 +0000

some departments are already doing that
http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/images/1222-california-police-cameras/7143597-1-eng-US/1222-California-Police-Cameras_full_600.jpg

By: dragonfrog

dragonfrog — Wed, 16 May 2012 18:57:00 +0000

Well, the criminals I know are almost all into non-violent crimes, and mainly victimless ones. So there’s that.

EDITed to add – come to think of it, in this day and age there are so many laws it’s impossible to obey them all. Anyone with a badge is of necessity a criminal with a badge, just as anyone without a badge is of necessity a criminal without a badge.

By: Marc Mielke

Marc Mielke — Wed, 16 May 2012 18:49:00 +0000

I’d say they’re just criminals with a badge, but the actual criminals I know are too honest to be compared to police.

By: Dave Lloyd

Dave Lloyd — Wed, 16 May 2012 18:44:00 +0000

American courts seem to be quite different to English courts: perjury is a very serious offence here and even a cop can’t expect to walk away from that. (Admittedly their punishment is usually far less severe than for an ordinary citizen.)

By: Ultan

Ultan — Wed, 16 May 2012 18:23:00 +0000

No, lying under oath is technically one of the few things for which they don’t have immunity. Good luck getting it prosecuted, though.

By: dragonfrog

dragonfrog — Wed, 16 May 2012 17:55:00 +0000

What do you feel the video demonstrates?

By: vinculture

vinculture — Wed, 16 May 2012 17:44:00 +0000

How many of you actually watched the video? Because it doesn’t prove what you think it does.

By: Paul Balbas

Paul Balbas — Wed, 16 May 2012 17:31:00 +0000

in this country they only go after people who lie about steroids..

By: EH

EH — Wed, 16 May 2012 17:27:00 +0000

A long-standing tradition, this is what is threatened by citizen filming and explains law enforcement resistance to the concept.

“A picture is a fact.” –Wittgenstein

By: bloopeeriod

bloopeeriod — Wed, 16 May 2012 17:16:00 +0000

Tamper proof cameras mounted on each officers head would go far in preserving our rights. No?

By: Marja Erwin

Marja Erwin — Wed, 16 May 2012 17:15:00 +0000

I thought cops and prosecutors had qualified immunity/impunity against perjury charges.