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Geckos can't climb teflon

Cory Doctorow at 8:00 am Thu, May 17, 2012

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Tom Quinn sez, "A gecko struggles with the low van der Waals forces encountered when climbing a non-stick pan." Here's a Google Translate of the French description on the video:

We conducted an experiment with a gecko on a Tefal frying pan, that is to say, a pan made ​​of Teflon. The gecko, despite numerous attempts fails to climb onto the stove, it proves that it not adhere not in this matter.

Gecko.MOV (Thanks, Tom Quinn!)

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  • freshyill

    I read a long time ago, that researchers that need to capture geckos for study will build a trap out of a large sheet of teflon it that will funnel them into a container

  • SvenOrtmann

    “…a Tefal frying pan, that is to say, a pan made ​​of Teflon…”

    WRONG. Such a pan has a Teflon coating only.

    By the way: Teflon is a thermoplastic polymer and was found in 1938, long before even the A4 rocket – 20 years prior to NASA.

  • http://mordicai.livejournal.com Mordicai

    Huh, I wonder how this scales down– if spiders & flies would have the same problem.  I mean, same fundamental forces, right?

    • theophrastvs

      if i recall correctly (and if i don’t someone here will call me foul names) “spiders & flies” use a combination of claws and stickiness (semi-liquid) to find a sort of “rock climber’s hold” on the surface (which is much easier when one’s mass is so relatively small); whereas… (it’s a good day when one can use a ‘whereas’)… geckos use a very different method of adherence involving gazillions of tiny hairs (or hair like projections) which interact with Van der Waals forces … electrostatic attraction at the atomic level.  Someone else, ((you reading this perhaps)) can explain how Teflon™ can reduce the effectiveness of such forces (probably related to the dielectric properties of PTFE, maybe)

      • http://www.nathanhornby.com/ Nathan Hornby

        “a geckos uses a very different method of adherence involving gazillions of tiny hairs (or hair like projections) which interact with Van der Waals forces … electrostatic attraction at the atomic level. ”

        Maybe this is dependant on the type of lizard, but Bearded Dragons (an example of which can be seen in the above video) just use their claws as far as I’m aware.  Your explanation sounds much fancier though, and may well be true for Geckos (for which this is not).

  • xzzy

    Once again, science beats nature. 

    Ball’s in your court, evolution.

    • http://www.nathanhornby.com/ Nathan Hornby

      Isn’t evolution a school of science?  Where do we draw the line in the continuing war between science and nature?

      • rrh

        Well, it’s like the Wright brothers vs. gravity.

      • eldritch

        Evolution is a natural process, not a school of science. Engineers perform engineering, astronomers perform astronomy, but nobody goes out and performs evolution.

        • Antinous / Moderator

          Don’t you perform evolution when you procreatively mate with someone because of his/her desirable characteristics?

  • http://www.nathanhornby.com/ Nathan Hornby

    That’s a baby Bearded Dragon btw, not a Gecko!

    Awesome (and very friendly) little guys.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogona

    This is actually quite an important detail, as their climbing techniques are completely different.

    Unless of course I’m mistaken and this is a particular type of Gecko that looks exactly like an infant Beardy.

    http://babybeardeddragon.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/babybeardeddragon.jpg

    • sleater

      It’s a gecko. Look at those rounded toes.  Tarentola mauritanica maybe?

      • Lyle Hopwood

        It is a Tarentola mauritanica. A Moorish gecko.  You are correct.  I’ve seen many of them, although I’ve never made them attempt to run up a non-stick pan. 

        I have seen my Day Geckos unstick and fall off the glass when I’ve been spraying  their tanks with water though. They look very embarrassed when they do that. 

  • RedShirt77

    So non stick pans reduce sticking? Science!

    What happens when you do this with a Jesus lizard?

  • trieste

    In the next section of the french video we see how difficult it is for the gecko when olive oil and a little garlic is added and the gas is turned on.

  • Roy Trumbull

    I still don’t want to buy insurance from one.

  • Robert Cruickshank

    The video is too short to add Yackety Sax to.   Reshoot, please.

  • http://profiles.google.com/bmohar Boris Mohar

    The pan wasn’t hot enough.

  • jhertzli

    We will next try to answer the question: What happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object?

  • http://profiles.google.com/westcarleton Ray Perkins

    How long before Tefal steal the video for an advertising campaign?