Comments on: SAP exec arrested for stealing $1K worth of LEGO with DIY bar code scam http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Fri, 24 May 2013 13:16:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Jefada http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1434754 Jefada Sat, 26 May 2012 18:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1434754 Well not everyone on Ebay liked him. In fact, I reported him to Ebay for listing a Lego set as "new" when it as clearly evident he had opened the seal and removed the minifigures. With regard to Lego sets, as with any other products that have a "seal", once the seal is broken, it is no longer considered "new". What THIS clown was doing was pricing HIS sets SANS minifigures for a few bucks LESS than the cheapest new-set seller price, and when buyers would search for a set, his item would appear in the listings as new, and you'd see the 100% approval rating, and if you weren't real careful, you'd end up buying a set that had been opened and pilfered. The headings were designed also to deceive, since they made no mention of the missing minifigures, I reported this to Ebay after I received an email back from tomsbrickyard, in which he claimed it was "common practice" and if he didn't list them that way, it would put him in a "clear disadvantage". Poor baby.  I told him straight away he was the epitome of a liar and a false advertiser, and he had a choice: relist them as used, or I'd report him. He chose not to relist, I reported him, and the rest is history. I told him not to mess with me. Oh well, everyone learns, and some learn the easy way, and some don't.  Well not everyone on Ebay liked him.

In fact, I reported him to Ebay for listing a Lego set as “new” when it as clearly evident he had opened the seal and removed the minifigures.

With regard to Lego sets, as with any other products that have a “seal”, once the seal is broken, it is no longer considered “new”.

What THIS clown was doing was pricing HIS sets SANS minifigures for a few bucks LESS than the cheapest new-set seller price, and when buyers would search for a set, his item would appear in the listings as new, and you’d see the 100% approval rating, and if you weren’t real careful, you’d end up buying a set that had been opened and pilfered.

The headings were designed also to deceive, since they made no mention of the missing minifigures,

I reported this to Ebay after I received an email back from tomsbrickyard, in which he claimed it was “common practice” and if he didn’t list them that way, it would put him in a “clear disadvantage”.

Poor baby.  I told him straight away he was the epitome of a liar and a false advertiser, and he had a choice: relist them as used, or I’d report him.

He chose not to relist, I reported him, and the rest is history.

I told him not to mess with me.

Oh well, everyone learns, and some learn the easy way, and some don’t. 

]]> By: jimh http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1432079 jimh Thu, 24 May 2012 01:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1432079  While shitting bricks!  While shitting bricks!

]]> By: graywh http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1431957 graywh Wed, 23 May 2012 21:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1431957 The store's database usually has a text description of the set (all or part of the title), but not the set number (though it would be a good idea).  (I'm a former Target employee and frequent Target customer.) The store’s database usually has a text description of the set (all or part of the title), but not the set number (though it would be a good idea).  (I’m a former Target employee and frequent Target customer.)

]]> By: A Nonny Moose http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1431374 A Nonny Moose Wed, 23 May 2012 12:09:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1431374  You are correct, the first bit was a bit of an over generalization (though in my experience, not by a very wide margin). I apologize. FWIW, I think that in today's economic climate, an $8/hr job isn't going to pay even a college student's living expenses so well. It seems that wages for these retail jobs have been remarkably flat over the past several years while college expenses have suffered extreme inflation.  You are correct, the first bit was a bit of an over generalization (though in my experience, not by a very wide margin). I apologize. FWIW, I think that in today’s economic climate, an $8/hr job isn’t going to pay even a college student’s living expenses so well. It seems that wages for these retail jobs have been remarkably flat over the past several years while college expenses have suffered extreme inflation.

]]> By: Preston Sturges http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430890 Preston Sturges Wed, 23 May 2012 00:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430890 Thous Shalt Not Steal http://www.thebricktestament.com/exodus/the_ten_commandments/ex20_15p21_16.html Thous Shalt Not Steal

http://www.thebricktestament.com/exodus/the_ten_commandments/ex20_15p21_16.html

]]> By: Ultan http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430709 Ultan Tue, 22 May 2012 21:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430709  "...now I'm even more cynical and hopeless than before." It's really hard to keep up with all the things I should be feeling cynical about.  On the plus side, I'm almost caught up with my apathy duties.  ”…now I’m even more cynical and hopeless than before.”

It’s really hard to keep up with all the things I should be feeling cynical about.  On the plus side, I’m almost caught up with my apathy duties.

]]> By: Ultan http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430692 Ultan Tue, 22 May 2012 21:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430692  It's the "petty" part that they don't want to be associated with.  It’s the “petty” part that they don’t want to be associated with.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430570 Antinous / Moderator Tue, 22 May 2012 20:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430570 Vengeance against imagined wrongs seems like a popular reason for middle-class crimes like shoplifting. Vengeance against imagined wrongs seems like a popular reason for middle-class crimes like shoplifting.

]]> By: IronEdithKidd http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430467 IronEdithKidd Tue, 22 May 2012 19:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430467 Careful with that big, fat brush.  Never assume the person on the other side of the counter has that job because they lack the intelligence to get better paying jobs.  The crap cashier job I had in college payed my living expenses while I completed my degree.  In my case, the crap job supplier happened to be Target.  Your second point, though, is true.  They didn't pay me enough to give a flying fig what went through the line.  Careful with that big, fat brush.  Never assume the person on the other side of the counter has that job because they lack the intelligence to get better paying jobs.  The crap cashier job I had in college payed my living expenses while I completed my degree.  In my case, the crap job supplier happened to be Target.  Your second point, though, is true.  They didn’t pay me enough to give a flying fig what went through the line. 

]]> By: stumo http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430313 stumo Tue, 22 May 2012 18:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430313 As well as the others - they're a range with a huge price range, where the price may not be obvious from e.g. size of box. If the cashier sees "Lego" on the display as they go through, then they're probably not going to query it if the price isn't very obviously wrong.  As well as the others – they’re a range with a huge price range, where the price may not be obvious from e.g. size of box. If the cashier sees “Lego” on the display as they go through, then they’re probably not going to query it if the price isn’t very obviously wrong. 

]]> By: ǝɔʎoſ ʇʇɐW http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430220 ǝɔʎoſ ʇʇɐW Tue, 22 May 2012 17:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430220  You are an executive at a major company in silicon valley... and you spend your free time stealing legos for a net profit of what?  30k?  That is the very definition of stupid.  Really speaks to the hiring policies of SAP.  You are an executive at a major company in silicon valley… and you spend your free time stealing legos for a net profit of what?  30k?  That is the very definition of stupid.  Really speaks to the hiring policies of SAP.

]]> By: Preston Sturges http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430175 Preston Sturges Tue, 22 May 2012 17:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430175 It's true, the sets appreciate immediately.  It’s true, the sets appreciate immediately. 

]]> By: Preston Sturges http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430172 Preston Sturges Tue, 22 May 2012 16:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430172 The SAP database seems to be rather rudimentary, although I'm not sure that's really a problem, since relational databases aren't that good with parts inventories.  The SAP database seems to be rather rudimentary, although I’m not sure that’s really a problem, since relational databases aren’t that good with parts inventories. 

]]> By: Preston Sturges http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430140 Preston Sturges Tue, 22 May 2012 16:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430140 Fun fact (?) "Leggo My Eggo" means "bite me" in German. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Leggo+my+eggo Fun fact (?) “Leggo My Eggo” means “bite me” in German.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Leggo+my+eggo

]]> By: wysinwyg http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430125 wysinwyg Tue, 22 May 2012 16:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430125  Unless you're actually a lawyer you should probably stop trying to sound so sophisticated about the distinction.  The dude took more product than he paid for.  Stealing.  Unless you’re actually a lawyer you should probably stop trying to sound so sophisticated about the distinction.  The dude took more product than he paid for.  Stealing.

]]> By: wysinwyg http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430113 wysinwyg Tue, 22 May 2012 16:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430113 <blockquote> Fucking up does not make a criminal stupid.</blockquote>Well...it depends, right?  Sometimes criminals fuck up in ways that are just stupid. And sometimes you get a corporate executive making six figures a year engaging in some petty scam involving ripping off children's toys and selling them on eBay.  That's stupid.  And his biggest mistake wasn't hitting Target too often, it was working this scam at all. You know, most criminals actually are stupid.  Otherwise they'd have picked lower-risk, higher-reward careers.  Like flipping burgers at McDonald's.

Fucking up does not make a criminal stupid.

Well…it depends, right?  Sometimes criminals fuck up in ways that are just stupid.

And sometimes you get a corporate executive making six figures a year engaging in some petty scam involving ripping off children’s toys and selling them on eBay.  That’s stupid.  And his biggest mistake wasn’t hitting Target too often, it was working this scam at all.

You know, most criminals actually are stupid.  Otherwise they’d have picked lower-risk, higher-reward careers.  Like flipping burgers at McDonald’s.

]]> By: Ian Wood http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430090 Ian Wood Tue, 22 May 2012 16:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430090  SAP makes bar code printers, inventory control systems for the management of large quantities of small plastic bricks, and deli meat slicers (though word is they're selling off that portion of the business as it doesn't fit in with the company's business model).  SAP makes bar code printers, inventory control systems for the management of large quantities of small plastic bricks, and deli meat slicers (though word is they’re selling off that portion of the business as it doesn’t fit in with the company’s business model).

]]> By: wysinwyg http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430093 wysinwyg Tue, 22 May 2012 16:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430093  They put all your business's data in one "place" and then provide web interfaces specialized by task to access it, so payroll, benefits, accounting, sales, etc. each have their own view of the data that excludes irrelevant bits (HR doesn't need to know your sales figures) and includes relevant bits (they do need to know your benefits).  They put all your business’s data in one “place” and then provide web interfaces specialized by task to access it, so payroll, benefits, accounting, sales, etc. each have their own view of the data that excludes irrelevant bits (HR doesn’t need to know your sales figures) and includes relevant bits (they do need to know your benefits).

]]> By: GawainLavers http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430060 GawainLavers Tue, 22 May 2012 16:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430060 At least we finally understand how SAP can be profitable. At least we finally understand how SAP can be profitable.

]]> By: toyg http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430046 toyg Tue, 22 May 2012 16:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430046 > It's rather disappointing Exactly like a SAP deployment then. > It’s rather disappointing

Exactly like a SAP deployment then.

]]> By: toyg http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1430029 toyg Tue, 22 May 2012 16:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1430029 Probably a mix of thrill-seeking and good ol' greed. Probably a mix of thrill-seeking and good ol’ greed.

]]> By: toyg http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1429986 toyg Tue, 22 May 2012 16:01:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1429986 Their main competitor is Oracle, which you hopefully know; the main difference is that the best bit of Oracle is their database, whereas the best bit of SAP is the applications running on top of it, which take care of counting how many products you're selling and how much money you're making. It's one of the most profitable companies on the planet, although they're currently on a downward trend somewhat. Their main competitor is Oracle, which you hopefully know; the main difference is that the best bit of Oracle is their database, whereas the best bit of SAP is the applications running on top of it, which take care of counting how many products you’re selling and how much money you’re making.

It’s one of the most profitable companies on the planet, although they’re currently on a downward trend somewhat.

]]> By: Chris Murphy http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1429987 Chris Murphy Tue, 22 May 2012 16:01:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1429987  *kneel* on them!  *kneel* on them!

]]> By: A Nonny Moose http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1429977 A Nonny Moose Tue, 22 May 2012 15:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1429977  In that situation, many stores will simply refund the difference in price on the spot, if the original sale was within the last thirty days.  In that situation, many stores will simply refund the difference in price on the spot, if the original sale was within the last thirty days.

]]> By: Simon Cohen http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1429973 Simon Cohen Tue, 22 May 2012 15:52:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1429973 Really? They make (Enterprise Resource Planning) ERP software. It's a massive business.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAP_AG  And I always thought the saying was: If it's free, then you're the product. SAP's products are definitely not free. Really? They make (Enterprise Resource Planning) ERP software. It’s a massive business. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAP_AG 
And I always thought the saying was: If it’s free, then you’re the product. SAP’s products are definitely not free.

]]> By: A Nonny Moose http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1429970 A Nonny Moose Tue, 22 May 2012 15:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1429970  Eight bucks an hour really doesn't attract a very high level of intelligence to your cashier pool. It really doesn't attract people who give a damn, either.  Eight bucks an hour really doesn’t attract a very high level of intelligence to your cashier pool. It really doesn’t attract people who give a damn, either.

]]> By: A Nonny Moose http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1429964 A Nonny Moose Tue, 22 May 2012 15:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1429964 I spent a few minutes on their website. I'm now actually less certain of what they do than before I clicked (and I knew almost nothing about them at that point). I spent a few minutes on their website. I’m now actually less certain of what they do than before I clicked (and I knew almost nothing about them at that point).

]]> By: LightningRose http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1429961 LightningRose Tue, 22 May 2012 15:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1429961  Fornicatus non-iocus.  Fornicatus non-iocus.

]]> By: Beanolini http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1429942 Beanolini Tue, 22 May 2012 15:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1429942 <blockquote> it's a series of poorly designed web apps that keep you from doing your real job.</blockquote> Now, that makes more sense. It's very different where I work, as we've built our own poorly designed web apps to keep us from doing our jobs.

it’s a series of poorly designed web apps that keep you from doing your real job.

Now, that makes more sense. It’s very different where I work, as we’ve built our own poorly designed web apps to keep us from doing our jobs.

]]> By: ryane http://boingboing.net/2012/05/21/sap-exec-arrested-for-stealing.html#comment-1429925 ryane Tue, 22 May 2012 15:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=162207#comment-1429925 SAP also just had a big event in Orlando (Sapphire), and put on what will very likely have been the last Van Halen concert, for the attendees. Also, Oracle sued SAP in the largest software piracy claim evar.  $1bn or so. SAP also just had a big event in Orlando (Sapphire), and put on what will very likely have been the last Van Halen concert, for the attendees.

Also, Oracle sued SAP in the largest software piracy claim evar.  $1bn or so.

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