Comments on: Gay porn actor in Canada wanted for killing friend, publishing dismembering videos, mailing body parts http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 18 May 2013 16:24:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: AnthonyC http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1440563 AnthonyC Sun, 03 Jun 2012 13:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1440563  It isn't relevant at all. I think talking about gay porn is irrelevant, unfair, and unbalanced. I was just commenting on that phrase, 'fair and balanced,' which certain news sources aim for.  It isn’t relevant at all. I think talking about gay porn is irrelevant, unfair, and unbalanced.

I was just commenting on that phrase, ‘fair and balanced,’ which certain news sources aim for.

]]> By: AnthonyC http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1440561 AnthonyC Sun, 03 Jun 2012 13:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1440561  I agree with your premise- that many people falsely believe they are criminal masterminds. My point is that this observation is not evidence against the existence of criminal masterminds, because you would expect this aspect of the world to look the same whether perfect crimes exist or not.  I agree with your premise- that many people falsely believe they are criminal masterminds.
My point is that this observation is not evidence against the existence of criminal masterminds, because you would expect this aspect of the world to look the same whether perfect crimes exist or not.

]]> By: That_Anonymous_Coward http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1440475 That_Anonymous_Coward Sun, 03 Jun 2012 03:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1440475  @acvicari:disqus  How is making a gay porn relevant to the story? CNN claimed the victim was white, while the truth is he was Asian.  It was reported from the get go in Canada they thought the victim was Asian, why would CNN change that... to appeal to the terrified whites who feel anyone not just like them is evil.  The alleged killer is white, lets call him gay to set him apart. Tiny little alterations and the story is massive headlines, and feeds a whole buncha hate. Fair and Balanced means Relevant and Accurate, it is unfair to report on guesses that are not accurate.  It is not balanced to report on part of his porn career because it isn't relevant to the story.  @acvicari:disqus  How is making a gay porn relevant to the story?
CNN claimed the victim was white, while the truth is he was Asian.  It was reported from the get go in Canada they thought the victim was Asian, why would CNN change that… to appeal to the terrified whites who feel anyone not just like them is evil.  The alleged killer is white, lets call him gay to set him apart.
Tiny little alterations and the story is massive headlines, and feeds a whole buncha hate.
Fair and Balanced means Relevant and Accurate, it is unfair to report on guesses that are not accurate.  It is not balanced to report on part of his porn career because it isn’t relevant to the story.

]]> By: ravenlunatick http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1440382 ravenlunatick Sat, 02 Jun 2012 22:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1440382  In my dealings with accused criminals, I've found that they all believe that they are criminal masterminds who can stump law enforcement simply by denying any wrongdoing. I think before working in a law office, I would have agreed with you.  In my dealings with accused criminals, I’ve found that they all believe that they are criminal masterminds who can stump law enforcement simply by denying any wrongdoing. I think before working in a law office, I would have agreed with you.

]]> By: AnthonyC http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1440329 AnthonyC Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1440329 "If you did commit the perfect crime, nobody would ever find out - so how could anyone possibly know that there weren't perfect crimes?And as soon as you looked at it that way, you realized that perfect crimes probably got committed all the time, and the coroner marked it down as death by natural causes, or the newspaper reported that the shop had never been very profitable and had finally gone out of business..." So I agree with your second point, but not the first. “If you did commit the perfect crime, nobody would ever find out – so how could anyone possibly know that there weren’t perfect crimes?And as soon as you looked at it that way, you realized that perfect crimes probably got committed all the time, and the coroner marked it down as death by natural causes, or the newspaper reported that the shop had never been very profitable and had finally gone out of business…”

So I agree with your second point, but not the first.

]]> By: AnthonyC http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1440327 AnthonyC Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1440327  I really don't care a whit about Fair or Balanced, it's Relevant and Accurate that matter much more to me.  I really don’t care a whit about Fair or Balanced, it’s Relevant and Accurate that matter much more to me.

]]> By: Mike Birtwistle http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1440171 Mike Birtwistle Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1440171  And the Bloc got a load of bollocks  And the Bloc got a load of bollocks

]]> By: strangefriend http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1439377 strangefriend Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1439377  Agreed.  Agreed.

]]> By: BBNinja http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1439302 BBNinja Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1439302 Yeah, I'm not taking either side on that. It's just the fact that they have these pudding contests in almost every article on CNN. The connect is that instead of arguing political conflict based merits, it always comes down to religion bashing and regardless of the debate if your best argument is the other guys are Jews or Mormons, Muslims or whatever you really have no argument. Yeah, I’m not taking either side on that. It’s just the fact that they have these pudding contests in almost every article on CNN. The connect is that instead of arguing political conflict based merits, it always comes down to religion bashing and regardless of the debate if your best argument is the other guys are Jews or Mormons, Muslims or whatever you really have no argument.

]]> By: sarahfenix http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1439292 sarahfenix Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1439292 Qu'est-ce que c'est... Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa=) Qu’est-ce que c’est… Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa=)

]]> By: Itsumishi http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1439229 Itsumishi Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1439229 Says who? People not working in the porn industry? Says who? People not working in the porn industry?

]]> By: That_Anonymous_Coward http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1439119 That_Anonymous_Coward Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1439119 Xeni is reporting the story as presented, if I thought she was trying to build it into something bigger I would have called her out on it.  We would have yelled and shouted at each other but still be left with the problem, the problem is the media spinning the stories looking for any hook to get an angle to get more views. Xeni didn't create the whole gay porn star cannibal necro angle, Xeni is presenting what is out there.  It is for the reader to sift the information and draw their own conclusions. Jake0748 asked why it was relevant to the topic, and in truth it isn't except for the people who need to have shocking reporting which is a truly sad commentary on our society. So please don't think I was ranting against Xeni in this case, it was a rant about the media churning these stories trying to find the angle to get more eyes on them. This is a good story to use as an example of why certain terms are picked, and why we need extra sensationalism.  How certain groups are going to pounce on this story and use it to further their anti-gay views and what effect it has on people who don't think it effected them. Xeni is reporting the story as presented, if I thought she was trying to build it into something bigger I would have called her out on it. 
We would have yelled and shouted at each other but still be left with the problem, the problem is the media spinning the stories looking for any hook to get an angle to get more views.
Xeni didn’t create the whole gay porn star cannibal necro angle, Xeni is presenting what is out there.  It is for the reader to sift the information and draw their own conclusions.

Jake0748 asked why it was relevant to the topic, and in truth it isn’t except for the people who need to have shocking reporting which is a truly sad commentary on our society.

So please don’t think I was ranting against Xeni in this case, it was a rant about the media churning these stories trying to find the angle to get more eyes on them.

This is a good story to use as an example of why certain terms are picked, and why we need extra sensationalism.  How certain groups are going to pounce on this story and use it to further their anti-gay views and what effect it has on people who don’t think it effected them.

]]> By: Kimmo http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1439107 Kimmo Fri, 01 Jun 2012 06:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1439107 I can easily understand feeling that way about such references, but I'm quite certain Xeni's intent wasn't to vilify. Most evil is banal. In this case, the banality is that 'gay' adds a bit of pop to any headline. I'd suggest any analysis of the phenomenon in this context right here should should start from that point. I can easily understand feeling that way about such references, but I’m quite certain Xeni’s intent wasn’t to vilify.

Most evil is banal. In this case, the banality is that ‘gay’ adds a bit of pop to any headline.

I’d suggest any analysis of the phenomenon in this context right here should should start from that point.

]]> By: Kimmo http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1439103 Kimmo Fri, 01 Jun 2012 06:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1439103 Bwaaahahahahahahahah Bwaaahahahahahahahah

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1439097 Antinous / Moderator Fri, 01 Jun 2012 06:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1439097 That's a false equivalency. Taking phone calls and taking cream pies are not equal. And "gay porn star" does not actually imply that he's gay, just that he stars in gay porn. That’s a false equivalency. Taking phone calls and taking cream pies are not equal. And “gay porn star” does not actually imply that he’s gay, just that he stars in gay porn.

]]> By: Itsumishi http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1439085 Itsumishi Fri, 01 Jun 2012 05:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1439085 You enjoy each others company and swinging with bisexual couples? You enjoy each others company and swinging with bisexual couples?

]]> By: Itsumishi http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1439082 Itsumishi Fri, 01 Jun 2012 05:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1439082 If he had been a receptionist would the headline read: "Gay receptionist in Canada"? If he had been a receptionist would the headline read: “Gay receptionist in Canada”?

]]> By: That_Anonymous_Coward http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1439001 That_Anonymous_Coward Fri, 01 Jun 2012 01:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1439001 I've seen the mentions of sexuality in some of the reporting from Canada.  Probably not the best papers, but it has been done. I’ve seen the mentions of sexuality in some of the reporting from Canada.  Probably not the best papers, but it has been done.

]]> By: Greg Van Antwerp http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1438966 Greg Van Antwerp Fri, 01 Jun 2012 01:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1438966 "A human torso recently discovered in Montreal, and a human hand and foot mailed from Montreal to Ottawa, are all presumed to be connected to the killing." There's nothing funny about murder...but...the use of the word "...connected..." Pure comedy gold. I am a Xeni-phile oh, and speaking of funny - read my latest cartoon: http://littleguycomix.blogspot.com/2012/05/sword-of-funny.html an artist life has so few rewards... “A human torso recently discovered in Montreal, and a human hand and foot mailed from Montreal to Ottawa, are all presumed to be connected to the killing.”

There’s nothing funny about murder…but…the use of the word “…connected…”
Pure comedy gold.

I am a Xeni-phile

oh, and speaking of funny – read my latest cartoon:
http://littleguycomix.blogspot.com/2012/05/sword-of-funny.html
an artist life has so few rewards…

]]> By: Paul Turnbull http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1438915 Paul Turnbull Thu, 31 May 2012 23:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1438915 An update on the disappearing part. Canadian press are reporting that the murder was last week and it is now believed that he flew to France on the weekend. The manhunt is now global. An update on the disappearing part. Canadian press are reporting that the murder was last week and it is now believed that he flew to France on the weekend. The manhunt is now global.

]]> By: Nathan Hornby http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1438683 Nathan Hornby Thu, 31 May 2012 20:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1438683 Gay man dating a lesbian woman? Never mind the corpses, how does THAT work? Gay man dating a lesbian woman? Never mind the corpses, how does THAT work?

]]> By: blueelm http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1438478 blueelm Thu, 31 May 2012 18:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1438478 The lack of distinction between living consenting people and dead people is disturbing. Projecting the same sense of having a relationship onto a dead person is to me still a part of a creepy inability to understand boundaries in the sense that his sexual desire trumps all else. This is why I still find it disturbing, despite the fact that it is not harming the corpse. It still suggests something very wrong going on in with the person in when they talk about a dead body and seem not to see it as different than a living person. It suggests something scary for the living to be thought of that way. Also, the fact that this guy tortures animals isn't helping. The lack of distinction between living consenting people and dead people is disturbing. Projecting the same sense of having a relationship onto a dead person is to me still a part of a creepy inability to understand boundaries in the sense that his sexual desire trumps all else. This is why I still find it disturbing, despite the fact that it is not harming the corpse. It still suggests something very wrong going on in with the person in when they talk about a dead body and seem not to see it as different than a living person. It suggests something scary for the living to be thought of that way. Also, the fact that this guy tortures animals isn’t helping.

]]> By: Funk Daddy http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1438467 Funk Daddy Thu, 31 May 2012 18:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1438467 This conforms to my theory that we are all socialists, but that some people are angry about it. This conforms to my theory that we are all socialists, but that some people are angry about it.

]]> By: Funk Daddy http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1438446 Funk Daddy Thu, 31 May 2012 18:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1438446 I don't think that fetishizing corpses sexually is the same as what this poor chaps describing by what he's written. Although I restrict my perusal to what is in this posting and it's comments sans links. Professing an ability to love a corpse, which is regardless of it's symbology to the viewer an inanimate object, along with a disdain for the prospect of what he considers the same relationship with another person, to me indicates an extremely limited empathic ability. Which has led him to conflate what he -can-feel, with what he believes he witnesses other people in real relationships feel toward one another. He claims to have friends, but that does not reveal empathic friendship relation only a mutually beneficial relationship of some kind that both parties appreciate. He could be conflating the positive sensation of beneficial  or pleasant shared experience with friendship based on caring about your friends feelings and well-being. He's just a confused sociopath with an extremely limited range of emotion, but that wants far more and believes that he has or has had it.  This armchair is lumpy and uncomfortable. I don’t think that fetishizing corpses sexually is the same as what this poor chaps describing by what he’s written. Although I restrict my perusal to what is in this posting and it’s comments sans links.

Professing an ability to love a corpse, which is regardless of it’s symbology to the viewer an inanimate object, along with a disdain for the prospect of what he considers the same relationship with another person, to me indicates an extremely limited empathic ability. Which has led him to conflate what he -can-feel, with what he believes he witnesses other people in real relationships feel toward one another.

He claims to have friends, but that does not reveal empathic friendship relation only a mutually beneficial relationship of some kind that both parties appreciate. He could be conflating the positive sensation of beneficial  or pleasant shared experience with friendship based on caring about your friends feelings and well-being.

He’s just a confused sociopath with an extremely limited range of emotion, but that wants far more and believes that he has or has had it. 

This armchair is lumpy and uncomfortable.

]]> By: strangefriend http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1438447 strangefriend Thu, 31 May 2012 18:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1438447 Or casu marzu, the Sardinian cheese that sometimes has maggots . . . Or casu marzu, the Sardinian cheese that sometimes has maggots . . .

]]> By: strangefriend http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1438438 strangefriend Thu, 31 May 2012 18:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1438438 "The comments on nearly every article on CNN invariably lead to bashing Jews, how evil they are and how all the worlds' ills are their fault...regardless of the actual content of the article or whether or not it has any bearing at all.  Most of it seems to be various Middle Easterners bashing Israelis. . ." There's a disconnect between your first sentence & your next sentence.  Blaming the ills of the world on <i> Jews</i> is indeed whacked out.  Middle Easterners criticizing Israelis, not so much.  You do realize that Israel is oppressing Palestinians?  You've heard of the Occupation? “The comments on nearly every article on CNN invariably lead to bashing Jews, how evil they are and how all the worlds’ ills are their fault…regardless of the actual content of the article or whether or not it has any bearing at all.  Most of it seems to be various Middle Easterners bashing Israelis. . .”

There’s a disconnect between your first sentence & your next sentence.  Blaming the ills of the world on Jews is indeed whacked out.  Middle Easterners criticizing Israelis, not so much.  You do realize that Israel is oppressing Palestinians?  You’ve heard of the Occupation?

]]> By: Ultan http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1438382 Ultan Thu, 31 May 2012 18:05:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1438382 People with dark hair and blue eyes have always given me the heebie-jeebies, and this guy just confirms my completely rational prejudice. People with dark hair and blue eyes have always given me the heebie-jeebies, and this guy just confirms my completely rational prejudice.

]]> By: Ultan http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1438356 Ultan Thu, 31 May 2012 17:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1438356  Don't worry G.W., Jeff Gannon's got your back.  Don’t worry G.W., Jeff Gannon’s got your back.

]]> By: blueelm http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1438352 blueelm Thu, 31 May 2012 17:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1438352 Or that lots of women like to sleep with other women who men think are hot and that these women want to do it to turn guys on. What a let down reality is! Or that lots of women like to sleep with other women who men think are hot and that these women want to do it to turn guys on. What a let down reality is!

]]> By: Matt Staggs http://boingboing.net/2012/05/30/gay-porn-actor-in-canada-wante.html#comment-1438344 Matt Staggs Thu, 31 May 2012 17:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=163749#comment-1438344 I think that is theoretically fine, but what about this guy having sex with your own loved ones? I think that is theoretically fine, but what about this guy having sex with your own loved ones?

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