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		<title>By: lillyd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1443349</link>
		<dc:creator>lillyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to think MDs get their information from scientific studies, but in my experience it is more from the prevailing conventional wisdom which evolves slowly over time. What would an MD have told you about Vitamin D 10 years ago? Something about rickets and 200mg probably. What would they have said about UVA and UVB? 

Was it last year Maggie had the post about how sunscreens don&#039;t neccessarily cover UVA (most don&#039;t). I found that out that 3 years ago when I researched it when pregnant with my first child. The people on that panel knew it years before me. Wait around for the MDs and the media to catch up if you want, but I&#039;ve got children to worry about now. Because of that research I&#039;ve given my daughter 3 years of better cancer protection by using better sunscreens. 

Because of my research, I took Vitamin D then without any MDs recommendation to do so (though I did clear it with them). I just had my second child and now they are recommending Vitamin D. I&#039;m glad I did my own research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to think MDs get their information from scientific studies, but in my experience it is more from the prevailing conventional wisdom which evolves slowly over time. What would an MD have told you about Vitamin D 10 years ago? Something about rickets and 200mg probably. What would they have said about UVA and UVB? </p>
<p>Was it last year Maggie had the post about how sunscreens don&#8217;t neccessarily cover UVA (most don&#8217;t). I found that out that 3 years ago when I researched it when pregnant with my first child. The people on that panel knew it years before me. Wait around for the MDs and the media to catch up if you want, but I&#8217;ve got children to worry about now. Because of that research I&#8217;ve given my daughter 3 years of better cancer protection by using better sunscreens. </p>
<p>Because of my research, I took Vitamin D then without any MDs recommendation to do so (though I did clear it with them). I just had my second child and now they are recommending Vitamin D. I&#8217;m glad I did my own research.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1442462</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 20:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s not a single MD on that panel.</description>
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		<title>By: Greg Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Fine, use your fancy tools ;-)
Yes, I know I could have even used paint. I was just lazy like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Fine, use your fancy tools ;-)<br />
Yes, I know I could have even used paint. I was just lazy like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1442399</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Just curious - have you tried really small increments of sun exposure, so that your skin can adapt without getting seared?&lt;/blockquote&gt;The concept of the &#039;base tan&#039; has been thoroughly repudiated by science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Just curious &#8211; have you tried really small increments of sun exposure, so that your skin can adapt without getting seared?</p></blockquote>
<p>The concept of the &#8216;base tan&#8217; has been thoroughly repudiated by science.</p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1442128</link>
		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Thanks, Mr. Penguin!  I&#039;m notoriously cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Thanks, Mr. Penguin!  I&#8217;m notoriously cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: lillyd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1442098</link>
		<dc:creator>lillyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the title should be &quot;Kids, cover up in the sun&quot;. There are many causes for concern about sunscreen; others have cited them. There is no such concern about wearing a hat, long sleeves and using that thing they call the &quot;sun visor&quot; (that blocks the sun). If you do start to burn, put on a zinc oxide or titanium dioxide sunscreen. ALL others do not block UVA completely, so using them is just a delusion of protection...but primarily GET OUT OF THE SUN! 
 
I&#039;ve done a lot of research on this (see link below as one reference), but I don&#039;t have time to write a research paper about it. Some journalist should do it. Recommending sunscreen before getting out of the sun and covering up is not based on facts. 
 
http://www.ucsd.tv/search-details.aspx?showID=15770</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the title should be &#8220;Kids, cover up in the sun&#8221;. There are many causes for concern about sunscreen; others have cited them. There is no such concern about wearing a hat, long sleeves and using that thing they call the &#8220;sun visor&#8221; (that blocks the sun). If you do start to burn, put on a zinc oxide or titanium dioxide sunscreen. ALL others do not block UVA completely, so using them is just a delusion of protection&#8230;but primarily GET OUT OF THE SUN!<br />
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I&#8217;ve done a lot of research on this (see link below as one reference), but I don&#8217;t have time to write a research paper about it. Some journalist should do it. Recommending sunscreen before getting out of the sun and covering up is not based on facts. <br />
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<a href="http://www.ucsd.tv/search-details.aspx?showID=15770" rel="nofollow">http://www.ucsd.tv/search-details.aspx?showID=15770</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Koerth-Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie Koerth-Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monica, I realize you&#039;re trying to be helpful, but when you suggest to somebody who has been dealing with a peculiarity of their own body for 31 years that they are probably just doing it wrong, you come across as a little condescending. 

Yes, I have tried doing without sunblock. It was incredibly obnoxious to deal with when I was a hyperactive and forgetful small child. It made me feel uncool when I was a teenager. And, frankly, I&#039;m still somewhat forgetful today as an adult. 

My body doesn&#039;t tan. I have enough melanin to freckle, but even in small doses of sun I will burn. I&#039;ve literally started burning in 20 minutes of exposure in Minnesota in March. I&#039;d much rather use sunblock then continue to add to my risk of skin cancer. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monica, I realize you&#8217;re trying to be helpful, but when you suggest to somebody who has been dealing with a peculiarity of their own body for 31 years that they are probably just doing it wrong, you come across as a little condescending. </p>
<p>Yes, I have tried doing without sunblock. It was incredibly obnoxious to deal with when I was a hyperactive and forgetful small child. It made me feel uncool when I was a teenager. And, frankly, I&#8217;m still somewhat forgetful today as an adult. </p>
<p>My body doesn&#8217;t tan. I have enough melanin to freckle, but even in small doses of sun I will burn. I&#8217;ve literally started burning in 20 minutes of exposure in Minnesota in March. I&#8217;d much rather use sunblock then continue to add to my risk of skin cancer. </p>
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		<title>By: Monika Norwid</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441954</link>
		<dc:creator>Monika Norwid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just curious - have you tried really small increments of sun exposure, so that your skin can adapt without getting seared? Melanin itself is a natural form of protection from the sun. Does your body not produce enough of it? Or does it maybe take longer, with small increments of exposure, to kickstart the process? Just wondering because sun block seems like a good idea for extreme exposure, but if you&#039;re using it ALL THE TIME, it would seem that you&#039;re basically preventing your body from creating any block of its own. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just curious &#8211; have you tried really small increments of sun exposure, so that your skin can adapt without getting seared? Melanin itself is a natural form of protection from the sun. Does your body not produce enough of it? Or does it maybe take longer, with small increments of exposure, to kickstart the process? Just wondering because sun block seems like a good idea for extreme exposure, but if you&#8217;re using it ALL THE TIME, it would seem that you&#8217;re basically preventing your body from creating any block of its own. </p>
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		<title>By: Monika Norwid</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441945</link>
		<dc:creator>Monika Norwid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 10:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay lesson is clear, don&#039;t be putting your face on the UV grill for 8 hours a day. HAVING SAID THAT - don&#039;t go to the other extreme and avoid the sun. &quot;Kids&quot; especially should be getting enough sun when young to ensure they&#039;re not Vitamin D deficient. They&#039;re just now discovering the far-reaching, dangerous effects of Vit. D deficiency, which are far scarier than a leathery face, and include deadly cancers (though internal ones, as opposed to melanoma). Unfortunately we once again come to this infuriating conclusion: be sensible and do stuff in moderation. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/27/health/27brod.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay lesson is clear, don&#8217;t be putting your face on the UV grill for 8 hours a day. HAVING SAID THAT &#8211; don&#8217;t go to the other extreme and avoid the sun. &#8220;Kids&#8221; especially should be getting enough sun when young to ensure they&#8217;re not Vitamin D deficient. They&#8217;re just now discovering the far-reaching, dangerous effects of Vit. D deficiency, which are far scarier than a leathery face, and include deadly cancers (though internal ones, as opposed to melanoma). Unfortunately we once again come to this infuriating conclusion: be sensible and do stuff in moderation. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/27/health/27brod.html</p>
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		<title>By: Jan_Willem</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441892</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan_Willem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 07:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJ7AzBIJoI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Everybody&#039;s Free to Wear Suncreen&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJ7AzBIJoI" rel="nofollow">Everybody&#8217;s Free to Wear Suncreen</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: teapot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441866</link>
		<dc:creator>teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 05:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, you know... Photoshop:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, you know&#8230; Photoshop:</p>
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		<title>By: teapot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441836</link>
		<dc:creator>teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 04:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s all go home and forget about it then.

This is actually like &lt;a href=&quot;http://tech.mit.edu/V129/N41/ignobels.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Donald Unger&lt;/a&gt;, winner of the 2009 Ig Nobel prize, who systematically cracked his left (but not his right) knuckles for over 60 years. There was no difference in his hands after this time, meaning he proved (anecdotally) that cracking knuckles doesn&#039;t lead to arthritis.

Just like Donald Unger showed there is probably not much to the claimed link between cracking knuckles and arthritis, this suggests pretty heavily that sun exposure leads to visible signs of aging while it&#039;s been conclusively proven that exposure to UV radiation can give you cancer.

Statistical evidence might be bullet-proof, but anecdotal evidence is still better than none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s all go home and forget about it then.</p>
<p>This is actually like <a href="http://tech.mit.edu/V129/N41/ignobels.html" rel="nofollow">Donald Unger</a>, winner of the 2009 Ig Nobel prize, who systematically cracked his left (but not his right) knuckles for over 60 years. There was no difference in his hands after this time, meaning he proved (anecdotally) that cracking knuckles doesn&#8217;t lead to arthritis.</p>
<p>Just like Donald Unger showed there is probably not much to the claimed link between cracking knuckles and arthritis, this suggests pretty heavily that sun exposure leads to visible signs of aging while it&#8217;s been conclusively proven that exposure to UV radiation can give you cancer.</p>
<p>Statistical evidence might be bullet-proof, but anecdotal evidence is still better than none.</p>
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		<title>By: teapot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441831</link>
		<dc:creator>teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 03:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@boingboing-acc24295a031cec540665b451bde7e07:disqus I&#039;m Australian, I freckle, I live in a beachy area, I love snowboarding and I hate (the feeling of) sunscreen. I&#039;m screwed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@boingboing-acc24295a031cec540665b451bde7e07:disqus I&#8217;m Australian, I freckle, I live in a beachy area, I love snowboarding and I hate (the feeling of) sunscreen. I&#8217;m screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: Adela Doiron</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441826</link>
		<dc:creator>Adela Doiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the up all thread discussions on sun protection products try the Coolibar site for alternatives.
I saw this fella last month when I was going through the NEJM images archives for something else. Then in a lot friend feeds for melanoma awareness. Nice to seem him getting a conversation going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the up all thread discussions on sun protection products try the Coolibar site for alternatives.<br />
I saw this fella last month when I was going through the NEJM images archives for something else. Then in a lot friend feeds for melanoma awareness. Nice to seem him getting a conversation going.</p>
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		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441814</link>
		<dc:creator>penguinchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@boingboing-506774f849b3f6f756077ca458da621a:disqus @joeposts:disqus Have any of you tried &quot;Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch&quot; sunscreen? I hate sunscreen but decided I needed to get serious about it when I moved to California and got a few burns. 

I did some research and tried some in stores and hated them all until I found this. It dries and truly doesn&#039;t feel greasy, doesn&#039;t get nasty when you sweat, doesn&#039;t do any damage to clothing, and it actually smells really, really nice. And crucially for me, it doesn&#039;t block pores and give me acne.

It&#039;s more expensive than most of the stuff on the shelf, but it isn&#039;t $20 an ounce (more like $3-4 an ounce).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@boingboing-506774f849b3f6f756077ca458da621a:disqus @joeposts:disqus Have any of you tried &#8220;Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch&#8221; sunscreen? I hate sunscreen but decided I needed to get serious about it when I moved to California and got a few burns. </p>
<p>I did some research and tried some in stores and hated them all until I found this. It dries and truly doesn&#8217;t feel greasy, doesn&#8217;t get nasty when you sweat, doesn&#8217;t do any damage to clothing, and it actually smells really, really nice. And crucially for me, it doesn&#8217;t block pores and give me acne.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s more expensive than most of the stuff on the shelf, but it isn&#8217;t $20 an ounce (more like $3-4 an ounce).</p>
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		<title>By: niktemadur</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441731</link>
		<dc:creator>niktemadur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &quot;Trucker tan&quot;, LOL!

Dashboard, pedals and steering wheel should be attached to an inner horizontal rail that gives you the choice to drive from either side of the cabin, all you gotta do is unlock the whole kajigger, slide it sideways, lock in place and there you have it - trucker&#039;s choice for an even tan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> &#8221;Trucker tan&#8221;, LOL!</p>
<p>Dashboard, pedals and steering wheel should be attached to an inner horizontal rail that gives you the choice to drive from either side of the cabin, all you gotta do is unlock the whole kajigger, slide it sideways, lock in place and there you have it &#8211; trucker&#8217;s choice for an even tan.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Dickson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Dickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He only drives north in the morning and south in the evening.</description>
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		<title>By: Ipo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ipo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I wasn&#039;t trying to convince, not being convinced myself, but I feel that doubters of sunscreen aren&#039;t without reason.  
I wasn&#039;t the one claiming that &lt;i&gt;many many of the chemicals found in some sunblocks are pretty much just as bad as UV damage&lt;/i&gt;, and I wouldn&#039;t, but I thought it interested you to see some other side.  

&quot;Some&quot; was meant as a qualifier, downgrading the term citation.  
I don&#039;t agree with the point of view concerns, in any case they stem from review, something a bOINGbOING post&#039;s comment thread doesn&#039;t count as.  

I&#039;m impressed that you so quickly read, comprehended, summarized and counter-argued that citation even though you really wanted to just dismiss it*.  You care.  
*Me thinks.  

This subject ties with your post from yesterday:  
Skin coloration is a result of natural selection.  
All peoples have the pigmentation, or lack of, that enables them to live out their natural life expectancy of 30 to 40+ years, in the latitude and environment their ancestors  lived in.  

A tribe of imaginary Pleistocene Irish redheads living in equatorial Africa would probably have gone extinct from radiation damage while their African counterpart would have gone extinct due to Vitamin D deficiency living at the edge of the ice where today Ireland is an island.  
(Or would&#039;ve eaten fish a lot.)  

We know Neanderthals had the ginger gene and I expect for science to show that &quot;we&quot; got &quot;white&quot; skin from them, enabling us to survive in  northern latitudes with their short summers without rickets and such.  
We didn&#039;t have to wait for those mutations and the long process of selection to become Europeans.  We inherited that from our predecessors who had been Europeans for over 300.000 years when we met them.  

Sucks for many Australians.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I wasn&#8217;t trying to convince, not being convinced myself, but I feel that doubters of sunscreen aren&#8217;t without reason. <br />
I wasn&#8217;t the one claiming that <i>many many of the chemicals found in some sunblocks are pretty much just as bad as UV damage</i>, and I wouldn&#8217;t, but I thought it interested you to see some other side.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Some&#8221; was meant as a qualifier, downgrading the term citation. <br />
I don&#8217;t agree with the point of view concerns, in any case they stem from review, something a bOINGbOING post&#8217;s comment thread doesn&#8217;t count as.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m impressed that you so quickly read, comprehended, summarized and counter-argued that citation even though you really wanted to just dismiss it*.  You care. <br />
*Me thinks.  </p>
<p>This subject ties with your post from yesterday: <br />
Skin coloration is a result of natural selection. <br />
All peoples have the pigmentation, or lack of, that enables them to live out their natural life expectancy of 30 to 40+ years, in the latitude and environment their ancestors  lived in.  </p>
<p>A tribe of imaginary Pleistocene Irish redheads living in equatorial Africa would probably have gone extinct from radiation damage while their African counterpart would have gone extinct due to Vitamin D deficiency living at the edge of the ice where today Ireland is an island. <br />
(Or would&#8217;ve eaten fish a lot.)  </p>
<p>We know Neanderthals had the ginger gene and I expect for science to show that &#8220;we&#8221; got &#8220;white&#8221; skin from them, enabling us to survive in  northern latitudes with their short summers without rickets and such. <br />
We didn&#8217;t have to wait for those mutations and the long process of selection to become Europeans.  We inherited that from our predecessors who had been Europeans for over 300.000 years when we met them.  </p>
<p>Sucks for many Australians.  </p>
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		<title>By: dainel</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441672</link>
		<dc:creator>dainel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how long do sunscreens last? should he have just smeared that on the window? that&#039;ll be better than putting it on your skin for 8 hours a day, for 30 years. what about a film or a piece of hard plastic you can cut to shape and attach to the side window?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how long do sunscreens last? should he have just smeared that on the window? that&#8217;ll be better than putting it on your skin for 8 hours a day, for 30 years. what about a film or a piece of hard plastic you can cut to shape and attach to the side window?</p>
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		<title>By: Payne Hertz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441665</link>
		<dc:creator>Payne Hertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Finally someone gets it. If this kind of asymmetrical facial degeneration were a common problem in long-distance drivers it would be as well known as trucker&#039;s tan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Finally someone gets it. If this kind of asymmetrical facial degeneration were a common problem in long-distance drivers it would be as well known as trucker&#8217;s tan.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon Marsh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441652</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon Marsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>found this:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/truth-sunscreen-labels-lying/story?id=16432348#.T804tJlYtod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>found this:</p>
<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Health/truth-sunscreen-labels-lying/story?id=16432348#.T804tJlYtod" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/Health/truth-sunscreen-labels-lying/story?id=16432348#.T804tJlYtod</a></p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441643</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I hate sunscreen though... I sweat and am hairy like gorilla&lt;/blockquote&gt;Clinique makes a spray sunblock.  It&#039;s about the consistency of bug spray, so not ideal, but still better than smearing ranch dressing on your skin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I hate sunscreen though&#8230; I sweat and am hairy like gorilla</p></blockquote>
<p>Clinique makes a spray sunblock.  It&#8217;s about the consistency of bug spray, so not ideal, but still better than smearing ranch dressing on your skin.</p>
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		<title>By: Dingos</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441629</link>
		<dc:creator>Dingos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The wording is a little confusing.  There were seven sunscreens that were very good against UVA and excellent against UVB, but No Ad wasn&#039;t listed among them&quot; 

Uhhh....  That&#039;s b/c they only listed 5 products.  Doesn&#039;t mean for sure it was 1 of the remaining 2(I don&#039;t have access to the original article either).  But last time I checked 5 items doesn&#039;t exhaust a list of 7 products.  

From your link:
&quot;No-Ad lotion with aloe &amp; vitamin E SPF 45 had a high overall score and at only $.59 per ounce,..&quot;
Right... high score and cheap.

&quot;It was listed as a &#039;best buy&#039; given that it was so cheap for its fairly high rating.&quot;
Ok.. and how is that not 1 of the best?  Certainly there are other, better products.  However, if I could buy a Toyota Corolla that did nearly everything a Lamborgini does... you wouldn&#039;t think that was 1 of the best options available to you?

&quot;It sounds like it might not be the cast that it is &#039;1 of the best&#039;, but still very good, and very inexpensive.&quot;
For me &quot;cheap and effective&quot; = 1 of the best.   It does what it says and you&#039;re not spending 20$ an ounce.   Did you have a real objection or did you just want to mince words for no other reason than to be pedantic?   The stuff works, it works well and isnt&#039; expensive.  So what&#039;s the problem??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The wording is a little confusing.  There were seven sunscreens that were very good against UVA and excellent against UVB, but No Ad wasn&#8217;t listed among them&#8221; </p>
<p>Uhhh&#8230;.  That&#8217;s b/c they only listed 5 products.  Doesn&#8217;t mean for sure it was 1 of the remaining 2(I don&#8217;t have access to the original article either).  But last time I checked 5 items doesn&#8217;t exhaust a list of 7 products.  </p>
<p>From your link:<br />
&#8220;No-Ad lotion with aloe &amp; vitamin E SPF 45 had a high overall score and at only $.59 per ounce,..&#8221;<br />
Right&#8230; high score and cheap.</p>
<p>&#8220;It was listed as a &#8216;best buy&#8217; given that it was so cheap for its fairly high rating.&#8221;<br />
Ok.. and how is that not 1 of the best?  Certainly there are other, better products.  However, if I could buy a Toyota Corolla that did nearly everything a Lamborgini does&#8230; you wouldn&#8217;t think that was 1 of the best options available to you?</p>
<p>&#8220;It sounds like it might not be the cast that it is &#8217;1 of the best&#8217;, but still very good, and very inexpensive.&#8221;<br />
For me &#8220;cheap and effective&#8221; = 1 of the best.   It does what it says and you&#8217;re not spending 20$ an ounce.   Did you have a real objection or did you just want to mince words for no other reason than to be pedantic?   The stuff works, it works well and isnt&#8217; expensive.  So what&#8217;s the problem??</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441628</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I already had a basal cell when I was in my 30s.  And I have dysplastic mole syndrome, which means a one in five-to-ten chance of melanoma.  So, yeah.  I&#039;m wearing whatever armor I can find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already had a basal cell when I was in my 30s.  And I have dysplastic mole syndrome, which means a one in five-to-ten chance of melanoma.  So, yeah.  I&#8217;m wearing whatever armor I can find.</p>
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		<title>By: BombBlastLightingWaltz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441623</link>
		<dc:creator>BombBlastLightingWaltz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is spooky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is spooky.</p>
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		<title>By: joeposts</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441618</link>
		<dc:creator>joeposts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s just it - a med I was on made me very sun-sensitive, especially my nose and cheeks. I blister if I burn at all. So worrying about chemical exposure isn&#039;t really an option when a bit of sun results in weeping sores. 

I hate sunscreen though... I sweat and am hairy like gorilla, so blech. Usually I just wear a trenchcoat and fedora when I want to hit the surf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s just it &#8211; a med I was on made me very sun-sensitive, especially my nose and cheeks. I blister if I burn at all. So worrying about chemical exposure isn&#8217;t really an option when a bit of sun results in weeping sores. </p>
<p>I hate sunscreen though&#8230; I sweat and am hairy like gorilla, so blech. Usually I just wear a trenchcoat and fedora when I want to hit the surf.</p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441620</link>
		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, now - it has dozens of cites in it.  It&#039;s really poor form to ask for cites and then refuse to look them up.  Look them up and &lt;i&gt;then&lt;/i&gt; mock them.

Edit:  Ah, yes, as per Maggie above.  Should have seen that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, now &#8211; it has dozens of cites in it.  It&#8217;s really poor form to ask for cites and then refuse to look them up.  Look them up and <i>then</i> mock them.</p>
<p>Edit:  Ah, yes, as per Maggie above.  Should have seen that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Youch, for a year&#039;s supply of that I can probably buy a wool stetson &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; a straw boater!

Hey, you should hit them for a kickback, though - this is a highly trafficked site.  Maybe they&#039;ll send you a free case. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Youch, for a year&#8217;s supply of that I can probably buy a wool stetson <em>and</em> a straw boater!</p>
<p>Hey, you should hit them for a kickback, though &#8211; this is a highly trafficked site.  Maybe they&#8217;ll send you a free case. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: BombBlastLightingWaltz</title>
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		<dc:creator>BombBlastLightingWaltz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And he is only 45 years old but maybe not vegetarian. 

Side note: This &#039;condition&#039; maybe the reason their drive on the wrong side of the road in Europe with steering on passenger side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And he is only 45 years old but maybe not vegetarian. </p>
<p>Side note: This &#8216;condition&#8217; maybe the reason their drive on the wrong side of the road in Europe with steering on passenger side.</p>
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		<title>By: Ipo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/04/kids-wear-your-sunblock.html#comment-1441552</link>
		<dc:creator>Ipo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And sunscreens don&#039;t typically block UVA , it doesn&#039;t cause sunburns.  

Edit: They do now.  In Europe Sunblockers have been required to block a minimum of 33% of the UVA since 2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And sunscreens don&#8217;t typically block UVA , it doesn&#8217;t cause sunburns.  </p>
<p>Edit: They do now.  In Europe Sunblockers have been required to block a minimum of 33% of the UVA since 2006.</p>
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