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	<title>Comments on: Model crowdsources name-and-shame for lecherous airline&#160;seatmate</title>
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		<title>By: zombiebob</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445679</link>
		<dc:creator>zombiebob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> little fucking fart machine lol</description>
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		<title>By: lafave</title>
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		<dc:creator>lafave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Hot men do get rejected, but it&#039;s far less than 90%. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Hot men do get rejected, but it&#8217;s far less than 90%. </p>
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		<title>By: farwest1</title>
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		<dc:creator>farwest1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &quot;All that&#039;s really happened is that the guy&#039;s wife now knows how he behaves when she isn&#039;t around.&quot;

You&#039;re wrong there.  The guy has been very publicly humiliated--as in every one of his friends, most of his family, and millions of others now know that he was a bit of a douchebag.  Maybe he deserved a bit of chastising, and his wife probably deserves to know that he&#039;s not honest about their relationship.  But base humiliation on a massive public scale seems a tad harsh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> &#8221;All that&#8217;s really happened is that the guy&#8217;s wife now knows how he behaves when she isn&#8217;t around.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re wrong there.  The guy has been very publicly humiliated&#8211;as in every one of his friends, most of his family, and millions of others now know that he was a bit of a douchebag.  Maybe he deserved a bit of chastising, and his wife probably deserves to know that he&#8217;s not honest about their relationship.  But base humiliation on a massive public scale seems a tad harsh.</p>
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		<title>By: EeyoreX</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445663</link>
		<dc:creator>EeyoreX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly. And forbidding the use of cellphones and the like on planes was a very nanny-ish thing to do by the airlines, so it&#039;s nice to see that&#039;s beeing phased out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. And forbidding the use of cellphones and the like on planes was a very nanny-ish thing to do by the airlines, so it&#8217;s nice to see that&#8217;s beeing phased out.</p>
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		<title>By: compfeznetau</title>
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		<dc:creator>compfeznetau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I have the same definition of cheating - conducting yourself in a way that you wouldn&#039;t do if your partner was next to you.

This guy was cheating and will pay the price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I have the same definition of cheating &#8211; conducting yourself in a way that you wouldn&#8217;t do if your partner was next to you.</p>
<p>This guy was cheating and will pay the price.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In this case, there&#039;s no reason to question the truthfulness of what was said,&quot;

Nope, none whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In this case, there&#8217;s no reason to question the truthfulness of what was said,&#8221;</p>
<p>Nope, none whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Sekino</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445645</link>
		<dc:creator>Sekino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He said he wasn&#039;t married, took off his wedding band and told her it was &#039;divine intervention&#039; that they were seated together. That&#039;s NOT casual, friendly conversation or even light flirting.

The commenters who are pity-partying his lying ass clearly never saw the disastrous effects of a cheating, lying spouse first hand. I&#039;ve seen good people of both gender devastated after being betrayed by their spouse (even emotional betrayals). It&#039;s a wound that the person carries for a long time. It can wreak havoc on their self-image and their future relationships. There is &lt;i&gt;no good reason&lt;/i&gt; to be this cavalier with a partner&#039;s trust and dignity.

If you enjoy flirting behind your spouse&#039;s back and discounting his/her very existence, at least be aware that &lt;i&gt;it is NOT harmless.&lt;/i&gt; Your spouse may or may not find out, but it is still profoundly disrespectful in spirit. If you know that your spouse could be hurt and/or humiliated by your behaviour, then &lt;i&gt;don&#039;t do it&lt;/i&gt;. Having basic regards for people who love you surely isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; hard, is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He said he wasn&#8217;t married, took off his wedding band and told her it was &#8216;divine intervention&#8217; that they were seated together. That&#8217;s NOT casual, friendly conversation or even light flirting.</p>
<p>The commenters who are pity-partying his lying ass clearly never saw the disastrous effects of a cheating, lying spouse first hand. I&#8217;ve seen good people of both gender devastated after being betrayed by their spouse (even emotional betrayals). It&#8217;s a wound that the person carries for a long time. It can wreak havoc on their self-image and their future relationships. There is <i>no good reason</i> to be this cavalier with a partner&#8217;s trust and dignity.</p>
<p>If you enjoy flirting behind your spouse&#8217;s back and discounting his/her very existence, at least be aware that <i>it is NOT harmless.</i> Your spouse may or may not find out, but it is still profoundly disrespectful in spirit. If you know that your spouse could be hurt and/or humiliated by your behaviour, then <i>don&#8217;t do it</i>. Having basic regards for people who love you surely isn&#8217;t <i>that</i> hard, is it?</p>
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		<title>By: off_leash</title>
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		<dc:creator>off_leash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing devil&#039;s advocate, what if this is mostly made-up? Perhaps she is sitting there, bored, and happens to see something identifying her seatmate. She googles him, gets lots of personal information, creates a salacious narrative and starts tweeting.

I&#039;m not a lawyer, but I would think that in the absence of physical evidence of his wrongdoing, he would have a pretty good case for filing a lawsuit for libel. Just sayin&#039;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing devil&#8217;s advocate, what if this is mostly made-up? Perhaps she is sitting there, bored, and happens to see something identifying her seatmate. She googles him, gets lots of personal information, creates a salacious narrative and starts tweeting.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a lawyer, but I would think that in the absence of physical evidence of his wrongdoing, he would have a pretty good case for filing a lawsuit for libel. Just sayin&#8217;. </p>
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		<title>By: LaylaSV</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445634</link>
		<dc:creator>LaylaSV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe. I like how that first line works almost as well for both parties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe. I like how that first line works almost as well for both parties.</p>
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		<title>By: LogrusZed</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445633</link>
		<dc:creator>LogrusZed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So which is worse: Hitting on someone who is uninterested, or talking to them about your personal relationship with Jesus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So which is worse: Hitting on someone who is uninterested, or talking to them about your personal relationship with Jesus?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>while understand how unwanted avances are annoying and doubly so when your trapped on a plane. i dont know that the complete unraveling of a mans life thru crowd sourceing is the answer... i cant think of a single old friend of mine who doesnt have a secret somewhere that that could ruin em when scrutinized thru crowd source. i think that is a fact we should all keep in mind. hate to say it but there are a shitload of glass houses out there and most of us live in one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while understand how unwanted avances are annoying and doubly so when your trapped on a plane. i dont know that the complete unraveling of a mans life thru crowd sourceing is the answer&#8230; i cant think of a single old friend of mine who doesnt have a secret somewhere that that could ruin em when scrutinized thru crowd source. i think that is a fact we should all keep in mind. hate to say it but there are a shitload of glass houses out there and most of us live in one.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Riepl</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445621</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Riepl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The phenomenon is broadly called a &quot;Human Flesh Search Engine&quot; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_flesh_search_engine. Started on the Chinese internet few years back. Often has very distasteful consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The phenomenon is broadly called a &#8220;Human Flesh Search Engine&#8221; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_flesh_search_engine" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_flesh_search_engine</a>. Started on the Chinese internet few years back. Often has very distasteful consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: Blank Look</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445622</link>
		<dc:creator>Blank Look</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m old and fat and ugly, and even I get guys hitting on me creepily and persistently. Often, it feels more like a control thing than poor social skills: if he keeps pestering me and talking about sex, he controls my attention &amp; where I can stand or sit. If you tell these guys in any way that you don&#039;t want to talk to them, they will start talking about what a bitch you are and implying that someday someone will teach you a lesson. I am not extrapolating from one data point. I commute on public transportation and this happens regularly. It&#039;s a low-grade assault that you could never prove, so they can get away with it over and over. I wish I could out every one of them as menacing dickheads.

No one who sees me could claim that it&#039;s my fault for being attractive or wearing revealing clothes. I hate to think what it&#039;s like for the pretty girls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m old and fat and ugly, and even I get guys hitting on me creepily and persistently. Often, it feels more like a control thing than poor social skills: if he keeps pestering me and talking about sex, he controls my attention &amp; where I can stand or sit. If you tell these guys in any way that you don&#8217;t want to talk to them, they will start talking about what a bitch you are and implying that someday someone will teach you a lesson. I am not extrapolating from one data point. I commute on public transportation and this happens regularly. It&#8217;s a low-grade assault that you could never prove, so they can get away with it over and over. I wish I could out every one of them as menacing dickheads.</p>
<p>No one who sees me could claim that it&#8217;s my fault for being attractive or wearing revealing clothes. I hate to think what it&#8217;s like for the pretty girls.</p>
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		<title>By: zeppelinrider</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeppelinrider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah.  The first time my now-husband asked me out, I was crazy busy helping with my sister&#039;s upcoming wedding.  I told him that, and to ask me again in a month.  Fortunately, he did call again a month later and we hit it off.
When guys asked me out and I wasn&#039;t interested, I&#039;d always just tell them, as gently as I could, that I just wasn&#039;t interested.  Nothing bad ever happened.  Of course, I also sometimes asked guys out myself, and sometimes they weren&#039;t interested.  Maybe this gave me greater empathy when I was turning guys down myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah.  The first time my now-husband asked me out, I was crazy busy helping with my sister&#8217;s upcoming wedding.  I told him that, and to ask me again in a month.  Fortunately, he did call again a month later and we hit it off.<br />
When guys asked me out and I wasn&#8217;t interested, I&#8217;d always just tell them, as gently as I could, that I just wasn&#8217;t interested.  Nothing bad ever happened.  Of course, I also sometimes asked guys out myself, and sometimes they weren&#8217;t interested.  Maybe this gave me greater empathy when I was turning guys down myself.</p>
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		<title>By: LaylaSV</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445587</link>
		<dc:creator>LaylaSV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 14:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa. Slow the roll to the men&#039;s rights mobile.  Nothing in the story suggests that the model was conducting an undercover sting operation or had it out to get the guy.  He was doing some pretty pointed extramarital flirting, she tweeted about it. It would have just been funny and anonymous were it not for the fact that the actor was giving interviews trumpeting his family and sobriety. 

I think the disproportionate need to defend the bored married guy  is noteworthy. Clearly the model should have just shut up and taken it like a lady; as if his interest alone should effect her behaviour. Being the unwilling recipient of someone&#039;s flirting doesn&#039;t morally obligate a woman to do anything - let alone defend the flirter&#039;s privacy and home life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa. Slow the roll to the men&#8217;s rights mobile.  Nothing in the story suggests that the model was conducting an undercover sting operation or had it out to get the guy.  He was doing some pretty pointed extramarital flirting, she tweeted about it. It would have just been funny and anonymous were it not for the fact that the actor was giving interviews trumpeting his family and sobriety. </p>
<p>I think the disproportionate need to defend the bored married guy  is noteworthy. Clearly the model should have just shut up and taken it like a lady; as if his interest alone should effect her behaviour. Being the unwilling recipient of someone&#8217;s flirting doesn&#8217;t morally obligate a woman to do anything &#8211; let alone defend the flirter&#8217;s privacy and home life.</p>
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		<title>By: LaylaSV</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaylaSV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 14:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, I am not sure the model knew where, or how far this was going to go when she launched her first tweet.. Or that her followers were going to dig up such damning ancillary  information. I think she, like the rest of us, is still learning how to control information in her public persona and the gradations of public vs. private in a Facebook world. The actor or lecherous &quot;victim&quot; in this scenario would presumably know just as much about paparazzi, publicity and public spaces as his tweeting seat-mate. 

Do I want to live in a world in which everything I do is subject to public scrutiny? Hell no. Do I sometimes like telling people the crazy thing that happened to me on the plane? Yes. 

The model isn&#039;t entirely blameless but something else is going on here and that&#039;s, what happens to our reality-based, oft exaggerated personal anecdotes when they become public and how great is our obligation to maintain either veracity to the actual events or the privacy of the supporting characters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, I am not sure the model knew where, or how far this was going to go when she launched her first tweet.. Or that her followers were going to dig up such damning ancillary  information. I think she, like the rest of us, is still learning how to control information in her public persona and the gradations of public vs. private in a Facebook world. The actor or lecherous &#8220;victim&#8221; in this scenario would presumably know just as much about paparazzi, publicity and public spaces as his tweeting seat-mate. </p>
<p>Do I want to live in a world in which everything I do is subject to public scrutiny? Hell no. Do I sometimes like telling people the crazy thing that happened to me on the plane? Yes. </p>
<p>The model isn&#8217;t entirely blameless but something else is going on here and that&#8217;s, what happens to our reality-based, oft exaggerated personal anecdotes when they become public and how great is our obligation to maintain either veracity to the actual events or the privacy of the supporting characters?</p>
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		<title>By: David Lavictoire</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Lavictoire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>c.f. David Brin, Earth </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>c.f. David Brin, Earth </p>
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		<title>By: Anony Mouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anony Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting in trouble is something you do in school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting in trouble is something you do in school.</p>
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		<title>By: glatt1</title>
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		<dc:creator>glatt1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I would go so far as to say that all of her followers are probably guys just like this guy who hit on her.  So she&#039;s using her personal army of assholes to destroy this asshole who hit on her on the plane.  Each one of those followers would also hit on her on the plane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I would go so far as to say that all of her followers are probably guys just like this guy who hit on her.  So she&#8217;s using her personal army of assholes to destroy this asshole who hit on her on the plane.  Each one of those followers would also hit on her on the plane.</p>
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		<title>By: Mantissa128</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mantissa128</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a perfect illustration of Rindan&#039;s point.</description>
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		<title>By: bkad</title>
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		<dc:creator>bkad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every time I fly, I hope I get a seat next to a pretty woman. But no, it&#039;s overweight middle aged men, every single time.

Of course, in my fantasy, the pretty woman and I turn out to have an instant chemical connection and discover we have a lot in common. We use this  &quot;chance encounter with a stranger&quot; to have a deeply vulnerable and affectionate exchange. Sometimes it&#039;s easier to share with strangers, you know. Then we go our separate ways, happy to have been there but a little disappointed the flight is over. But just before we part we discover that, even though the flight is between two cities on the other side of the country, that we actually live in the same city, mere blocks away!

I don&#039;t know why I shared that. Now you know I have unmanly, juvenile fantasies. My male fantasy center must be broken. I probably should be fantasizing about hooking up in the bathroom, but airplane bathrooms are just nasty.

Anyway, sure, people can tweet about their experiences. I don&#039;t know about you, but when I post things, even about friends, I try to anonymize everyone except for myself. This is the opposite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time I fly, I hope I get a seat next to a pretty woman. But no, it&#8217;s overweight middle aged men, every single time.</p>
<p>Of course, in my fantasy, the pretty woman and I turn out to have an instant chemical connection and discover we have a lot in common. We use this  &#8221;chance encounter with a stranger&#8221; to have a deeply vulnerable and affectionate exchange. Sometimes it&#8217;s easier to share with strangers, you know. Then we go our separate ways, happy to have been there but a little disappointed the flight is over. But just before we part we discover that, even though the flight is between two cities on the other side of the country, that we actually live in the same city, mere blocks away!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why I shared that. Now you know I have unmanly, juvenile fantasies. My male fantasy center must be broken. I probably should be fantasizing about hooking up in the bathroom, but airplane bathrooms are just nasty.</p>
<p>Anyway, sure, people can tweet about their experiences. I don&#8217;t know about you, but when I post things, even about friends, I try to anonymize everyone except for myself. This is the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirsten Spitzner</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445536</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirsten Spitzner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be willing to bet his wife already is aware this type of behavior exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be willing to bet his wife already is aware this type of behavior exists.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Roberts</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445533</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The simple act of starting to flirt with the pretty model in the seat next to him identifies him as more likely to be emotionally-driven and after an ego-boost.&quot;
Or maybe it just identifies him as a heterosexual male (not that there isn&#039;t a strong correlation).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The simple act of starting to flirt with the pretty model in the seat next to him identifies him as more likely to be emotionally-driven and after an ego-boost.&#8221;<br />
Or maybe it just identifies him as a heterosexual male (not that there isn&#8217;t a strong correlation).</p>
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		<title>By: Kirsten Spitzner</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445525</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirsten Spitzner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As women, we have to take responsibility for ourselves and not expect special treatment.  If you wouldn&#039;t say it to somebody&#039;s face, you probably shouldn&#039;t be tweeting it all over, then forming some kind of smear campaign as soon as you cook it up in your mind.  It&#039;s all part of being a grown up woman knowing how to handle yourself.  If she can&#039;t do this on a plane I&#039;d hate to think how she&#039;d be &quot;taken advantage of&quot; in a bar, you know, if there were famous people around.  I think she&#039;s going to regret this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As women, we have to take responsibility for ourselves and not expect special treatment.  If you wouldn&#8217;t say it to somebody&#8217;s face, you probably shouldn&#8217;t be tweeting it all over, then forming some kind of smear campaign as soon as you cook it up in your mind.  It&#8217;s all part of being a grown up woman knowing how to handle yourself.  If she can&#8217;t do this on a plane I&#8217;d hate to think how she&#8217;d be &#8220;taken advantage of&#8221; in a bar, you know, if there were famous people around.  I think she&#8217;s going to regret this.</p>
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		<title>By: Lin Richardson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445510</link>
		<dc:creator>Lin Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is the way we&#039;re going, you won&#039;t be alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is the way we&#8217;re going, you won&#8217;t be alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Roberts</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445508</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems a bit too similar to the &#039;live flesh searches&#039; they&#039;ve had on Chinese websites for a while for my comfort. Someone accuses someone of something (or wants to find out if someone is all they say they are), the internet finds out everything they can about them and potentially ruins their life in the process. It&#039;s basically employing a kind of vigilantism, even if the guy had what was coming to him (in the sense that he was &#039;outed&#039; for his actions). There&#039;s no sense of proportion or balance in these stories, and the people who benefit/suffer are usually made to fit an established stereotype (cute girl, dirty old man). In many cases, a complex story or person is reduced to a crude effigy of every person following that description that we hate. We feel that we&#039;ve brought justice to the situation, when in fact we&#039;ve often made it worse.

I think people still don&#039;t actually see the effect that they have by making these kind of comments on the internet. Would it be justified for that woman to stand up and shout at the man in front of all of the other passengers? This would have had the effect of shaming the man for the few hours he was on the plane (safely for him, in that it could have given him a wake up call without immediate family and friends knowing). It would have made him feel pretty crappy for the rest of the flight, then he could have made up his mind whether he wanted to change his attitude. It would also have been a reminder to any others on the plane that they can&#039;t just act like no one is watching or that no one will respond to what they are doing. The shame would be for a shorter time, with fewer people who didn&#039;t know him. Even so, many people would have considered this kind of rude, despite the fact that this was more proportionate to the annoyance. The difference seems to be that in this case, the woman would also have been risking censure (by people who were actually there and had heard everything) or a bad reaction from the man, but she could still have had some kind of middle ground between &quot;I&#039;m not interested&quot; and &quot;I&#039;m going to ruin your life&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems a bit too similar to the &#8216;live flesh searches&#8217; they&#8217;ve had on Chinese websites for a while for my comfort. Someone accuses someone of something (or wants to find out if someone is all they say they are), the internet finds out everything they can about them and potentially ruins their life in the process. It&#8217;s basically employing a kind of vigilantism, even if the guy had what was coming to him (in the sense that he was &#8216;outed&#8217; for his actions). There&#8217;s no sense of proportion or balance in these stories, and the people who benefit/suffer are usually made to fit an established stereotype (cute girl, dirty old man). In many cases, a complex story or person is reduced to a crude effigy of every person following that description that we hate. We feel that we&#8217;ve brought justice to the situation, when in fact we&#8217;ve often made it worse.</p>
<p>I think people still don&#8217;t actually see the effect that they have by making these kind of comments on the internet. Would it be justified for that woman to stand up and shout at the man in front of all of the other passengers? This would have had the effect of shaming the man for the few hours he was on the plane (safely for him, in that it could have given him a wake up call without immediate family and friends knowing). It would have made him feel pretty crappy for the rest of the flight, then he could have made up his mind whether he wanted to change his attitude. It would also have been a reminder to any others on the plane that they can&#8217;t just act like no one is watching or that no one will respond to what they are doing. The shame would be for a shorter time, with fewer people who didn&#8217;t know him. Even so, many people would have considered this kind of rude, despite the fact that this was more proportionate to the annoyance. The difference seems to be that in this case, the woman would also have been risking censure (by people who were actually there and had heard everything) or a bad reaction from the man, but she could still have had some kind of middle ground between &#8220;I&#8217;m not interested&#8221; and &#8220;I&#8217;m going to ruin your life&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Bowen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445504</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel your pain. I remember right at the start of a relationship a woman telling me that she thought flowers were corny and that I shouldn&#039;t ever buy her flowers. Definitely no flowers. So, OK.  Now, being leftish, my early adulthood girlfriends in the late 70s/early 80s tended to be feminists and so I came of age listening to slogans like &quot;Whatever we wear, wherever we go, yes means yes and no means no&quot; (Reclaim the Night, the 80s slut walks) and partly as a result of that,  partly because I try to keep things simple, I accept what people tell me about themselves at face value, unless it&#039;s obvious BS. So if a guy tells me he doesn&#039;t like cricket, say, or a woman tells me she doesn&#039;t like flowers, I believe them. Why wouldn&#039;t I? Needless to say, some years down the line I was told during a row, through huge, wracking sobs that &quot;You NEVER. BUY. ME. FLOWAAAAAZ!&quot;

I mean, wtf?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel your pain. I remember right at the start of a relationship a woman telling me that she thought flowers were corny and that I shouldn&#8217;t ever buy her flowers. Definitely no flowers. So, OK.  Now, being leftish, my early adulthood girlfriends in the late 70s/early 80s tended to be feminists and so I came of age listening to slogans like &#8220;Whatever we wear, wherever we go, yes means yes and no means no&#8221; (Reclaim the Night, the 80s slut walks) and partly as a result of that,  partly because I try to keep things simple, I accept what people tell me about themselves at face value, unless it&#8217;s obvious BS. So if a guy tells me he doesn&#8217;t like cricket, say, or a woman tells me she doesn&#8217;t like flowers, I believe them. Why wouldn&#8217;t I? Needless to say, some years down the line I was told during a row, through huge, wracking sobs that &#8220;You NEVER. BUY. ME. FLOWAAAAAZ!&#8221;</p>
<p>I mean, wtf?</p>
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		<title>By: V10_Rob</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445501</link>
		<dc:creator>V10_Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me off this comic: https://xkcd.com/642/ </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me off this comic: <a href="https://xkcd.com/642/" rel="nofollow">https://xkcd.com/642/</a> </p>
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		<title>By: deadbot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445499</link>
		<dc:creator>deadbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why I have a policy of never talking to pretty girls.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Popke</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/07/model-crowdsources-name-and-sh.html#comment-1445496</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Popke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How much have you read recently that gives you that glimpse of the possibilities of heavily networked societies? How many authors (other than Charlie Stross) are really writing about the possibilities of a crowd-sourced panopticon?&quot;

Hello, Wuffie? Welcome to the reputation economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How much have you read recently that gives you that glimpse of the possibilities of heavily networked societies? How many authors (other than Charlie Stross) are really writing about the possibilities of a crowd-sourced panopticon?&#8221;</p>
<p>Hello, Wuffie? Welcome to the reputation economy.</p>
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