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	<title>Comments on: NSA Built Stuxnet, but Real Trick Is Building Crew of&#160;Hackers</title>
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		<title>By: howaboutthisdangit</title>
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		<dc:creator>howaboutthisdangit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So a top-heavy bureaucracy run by heavy-handed thugs who oppress all that they don&#039;t understand (which is quite a bit) is looking for naturally curious, independent-minded people willing to jump through hoops to prove that they are really narrow-minded, docile sheep to get a security clearance to get a job.

How difficult can it be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So a top-heavy bureaucracy run by heavy-handed thugs who oppress all that they don&#8217;t understand (which is quite a bit) is looking for naturally curious, independent-minded people willing to jump through hoops to prove that they are really narrow-minded, docile sheep to get a security clearance to get a job.</p>
<p>How difficult can it be?</p>
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		<title>By: ZikZak</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZikZak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the articles says,  any hacker actually worth a damn learned their trade as part of a unique underground community.  That community hates the government, especially police and spy agencies - and for good reason: those institutions are dedicated to putting them and their friends in jail for doing what they love.
The government is basically complaining that there&#039;s a critical shortage of traitors and turncoats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the articles says,  any hacker actually worth a damn learned their trade as part of a unique underground community.  That community hates the government, especially police and spy agencies &#8211; and for good reason: those institutions are dedicated to putting them and their friends in jail for doing what they love.<br />
The government is basically complaining that there&#8217;s a critical shortage of traitors and turncoats.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadreck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadreck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t go hating on the Gubberment; the private parts of the industry are just as bad, if not worse.  If you manage to get a job in IT security you are regarded as an irritating expense who causes security problems by looking for them.  After all, if you hadn&#039;t poked your nose in and found out that the main administrator password was &quot;password&quot; no one would ever have known and we&#039;d be safe.

You can go to jail for even dabbling.  If you notice that a client&#039;s unencrypted credit card database has been uploaded to parts unknown and you tell him he&#039;ll call the cops.  They&#039;ll send out a traffic cop who&#039;ll arrest you as someone with the means and opportunity to have done this and the motive of selling the client security services.  Case closed and a promotion for the traffic cop!  Probably to the squad that sits around all day surfing porn sites (strictly to look for kiddie porn, of course).  The client&#039;s good with that as it puts out the story that they were ripped off by a Criminal Mastermind and not some 13-year old kid taking advantage of the client&#039;s drooling incompetence.  Too bad for you though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t go hating on the Gubberment; the private parts of the industry are just as bad, if not worse.  If you manage to get a job in IT security you are regarded as an irritating expense who causes security problems by looking for them.  After all, if you hadn&#8217;t poked your nose in and found out that the main administrator password was &#8220;password&#8221; no one would ever have known and we&#8217;d be safe.</p>
<p>You can go to jail for even dabbling.  If you notice that a client&#8217;s unencrypted credit card database has been uploaded to parts unknown and you tell him he&#8217;ll call the cops.  They&#8217;ll send out a traffic cop who&#8217;ll arrest you as someone with the means and opportunity to have done this and the motive of selling the client security services.  Case closed and a promotion for the traffic cop!  Probably to the squad that sits around all day surfing porn sites (strictly to look for kiddie porn, of course).  The client&#8217;s good with that as it puts out the story that they were ripped off by a Criminal Mastermind and not some 13-year old kid taking advantage of the client&#8217;s drooling incompetence.  Too bad for you though.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister44</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...but they&#039;re our black hat hackers. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;but they&#8217;re our black hat hackers. </p>
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