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	<title>Comments on: PGP founder creates secure voice mobile app, bets people will pay for&#160;privacy</title>
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		<title>By: stealthisbook</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449965</link>
		<dc:creator>stealthisbook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 00:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can pay cash for this, right?</description>
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		<title>By: Lachlan Musicman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449757</link>
		<dc:creator>Lachlan Musicman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Hey, I wasn&#039;t there at the start, but I spent time on FB. And I wasn&#039;t talking about the sneaky EULA changes - although admittedly I never made that clear. Your criticism is valid.

I was referring to the fact that when one has an FB account (I killed mine a couple of years ago) and isn&#039;t critical or aware of what&#039;s happening, that it&#039;s very easy to &quot;upload your life&quot; or &quot;walk naked down the street&quot;. Every photo uploaded, every event is commented on and gone to, every like is liked, every photo in which you are tagged, every song you have listened to, every status update - all of these add up to walking down the street naked if you are doing it with great enough frequency. 

To be honest, I&#039;m a little ashamed that my greatest hope - apart from the fighting that ppl like Cory (and I to a lesser impact, and you I&#039;d imagine) do  - is that websites die. Beebo, MySpace, Friendster etc - the web moves on. It wont happen overnight, but it might happen.

I certainly don&#039;t think the conversation should stop at any level - but I think it needs to encompass an education focus as well - to call out the emperor (my friends) for being naked. People sometimes need to be shocked out of the groove they are in. </description>
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Hey, I wasn&#8217;t there at the start, but I spent time on FB. And I wasn&#8217;t talking about the sneaky EULA changes &#8211; although admittedly I never made that clear. Your criticism is valid.</p>
<p>I was referring to the fact that when one has an FB account (I killed mine a couple of years ago) and isn&#8217;t critical or aware of what&#8217;s happening, that it&#8217;s very easy to &#8220;upload your life&#8221; or &#8220;walk naked down the street&#8221;. Every photo uploaded, every event is commented on and gone to, every like is liked, every photo in which you are tagged, every song you have listened to, every status update &#8211; all of these add up to walking down the street naked if you are doing it with great enough frequency. </p>
<p>To be honest, I&#8217;m a little ashamed that my greatest hope &#8211; apart from the fighting that ppl like Cory (and I to a lesser impact, and you I&#8217;d imagine) do  - is that websites die. Beebo, MySpace, Friendster etc &#8211; the web moves on. It wont happen overnight, but it might happen.</p>
<p>I certainly don&#8217;t think the conversation should stop at any level &#8211; but I think it needs to encompass an education focus as well &#8211; to call out the emperor (my friends) for being naked. People sometimes need to be shocked out of the groove they are in. </p>
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		<title>By: novium</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449523</link>
		<dc:creator>novium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m kind of alarmed how many organizations are willing to outsource control of their webcontent/costumer communications to a single large company...when they can&#039;t export that content and info back out...and one with a terrible track record to boot. It&#039;s a devil&#039;s bargain, and I&#039;ve got a feeling that it&#039;s going to lead to a lot of regrets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kind of alarmed how many organizations are willing to outsource control of their webcontent/costumer communications to a single large company&#8230;when they can&#8217;t export that content and info back out&#8230;and one with a terrible track record to boot. It&#8217;s a devil&#8217;s bargain, and I&#8217;ve got a feeling that it&#8217;s going to lead to a lot of regrets.</p>
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		<title>By: novium</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449520</link>
		<dc:creator>novium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate stupid, smug answers like this. It amounts to nothing more than &quot;haha, SUCKER!&quot; as a way to dismiss valid criticisms of what facebook is doing and has done. You know what? That people can, will, and have been taken advantage of, that occasionally they fall for a bad deal...that does not make it okay. And people make mistakes. We&#039;re not experts on everything all the time.

To say nothing of the fact that it&#039;s really easy to say it when you came late to the game. When I first joined facebook? I was 20 and in college.  It was called &quot;thefacebook&quot; and it was some nifty new website for college students a few of my friends (all frequent early adopters) bugged me to try.  The privacy policy was fairly standard. &quot;We won&#039;t share your info with anyone else, except anyone we may choose to, like advertisers, and we can change these terms at any time and they apply retroactively.&quot;  And once they were noticeably evil, it was much too late, and you were opted in whether you liked it or not. 

So yeah, the whole &quot;if you want privacy don&#039;t walk down the street naked&quot; is a bullshit answer, and a bullshit analogy, because it&#039;s not just one website, it&#039;s a whole system geared towards stripping away privacy rights.  There&#039;s something wrong with the system when normal, every day tasks  (e.g. work and social communications, commerce, transportation, etc etc) require waiving all right to privacy. And it&#039;s an important discussion to have. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate stupid, smug answers like this. It amounts to nothing more than &#8220;haha, SUCKER!&#8221; as a way to dismiss valid criticisms of what facebook is doing and has done. You know what? That people can, will, and have been taken advantage of, that occasionally they fall for a bad deal&#8230;that does not make it okay. And people make mistakes. We&#8217;re not experts on everything all the time.</p>
<p>To say nothing of the fact that it&#8217;s really easy to say it when you came late to the game. When I first joined facebook? I was 20 and in college.  It was called &#8220;thefacebook&#8221; and it was some nifty new website for college students a few of my friends (all frequent early adopters) bugged me to try.  The privacy policy was fairly standard. &#8220;We won&#8217;t share your info with anyone else, except anyone we may choose to, like advertisers, and we can change these terms at any time and they apply retroactively.&#8221;  And once they were noticeably evil, it was much too late, and you were opted in whether you liked it or not. </p>
<p>So yeah, the whole &#8220;if you want privacy don&#8217;t walk down the street naked&#8221; is a bullshit answer, and a bullshit analogy, because it&#8217;s not just one website, it&#8217;s a whole system geared towards stripping away privacy rights.  There&#8217;s something wrong with the system when normal, every day tasks  (e.g. work and social communications, commerce, transportation, etc etc) require waiving all right to privacy. And it&#8217;s an important discussion to have. </p>
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		<title>By: kartwaffles</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449478</link>
		<dc:creator>kartwaffles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like something big dumb corporations will pay for. Like GPG vs. commercial PGP, regular people won&#039;t buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like something big dumb corporations will pay for. Like GPG vs. commercial PGP, regular people won&#8217;t buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: dragonfrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>dragonfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That right there is the issue, isn&#039;t it?

I already use TextSecure for my SMS messages.  My wife is the only other user I know - but that&#039;s alright because (1) it was free (a modest one-time cost would have been OK too), and (2) it communicates transparently with others who don&#039;t use it.

But this service - I&#039;m not going to pay $20/month for it until many of the people I regularly phone also use it; and nor are many of the people I regularly phone.  Who wants to be an early adopter of a program that may evaporate ($20/month gets you nothing) or that may eventually get widespread traction ($20/month gets you nothing more than the people who adopted much later)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That right there is the issue, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>I already use TextSecure for my SMS messages.  My wife is the only other user I know &#8211; but that&#8217;s alright because (1) it was free (a modest one-time cost would have been OK too), and (2) it communicates transparently with others who don&#8217;t use it.</p>
<p>But this service &#8211; I&#8217;m not going to pay $20/month for it until many of the people I regularly phone also use it; and nor are many of the people I regularly phone.  Who wants to be an early adopter of a program that may evaporate ($20/month gets you nothing) or that may eventually get widespread traction ($20/month gets you nothing more than the people who adopted much later)</p>
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		<title>By: archanoid</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449382</link>
		<dc:creator>archanoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$20/mo per device? It doesn&#039;t help much if the guy on the other end isn&#039;t also using it. So if I want to talk to my immediate family members over encrypted channels with this, I&#039;m looking at $100/mo? No thank you. I&#039;ll just learn comanche.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$20/mo per device? It doesn&#8217;t help much if the guy on the other end isn&#8217;t also using it. So if I want to talk to my immediate family members over encrypted channels with this, I&#8217;m looking at $100/mo? No thank you. I&#8217;ll just learn comanche.</p>
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		<title>By: Jer_00</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449374</link>
		<dc:creator>Jer_00</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &quot;Also, tracking by government is still a much more pressing problem and much harder to fight.&quot;

Seriously?  You think there&#039;s actually a difference between being tracked by a corporation and being tracked by a government?

Since corporations are mostly just small governments themselves that require the cooperation of larger governements to even exist, much less do business, I don&#039;t think that you can make a case that there&#039;s much of a difference.  If the government in question demands access to the data that a corporation has on you, they&#039;re going to get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> &#8221;Also, tracking by government is still a much more pressing problem and much harder to fight.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seriously?  You think there&#8217;s actually a difference between being tracked by a corporation and being tracked by a government?</p>
<p>Since corporations are mostly just small governments themselves that require the cooperation of larger governements to even exist, much less do business, I don&#8217;t think that you can make a case that there&#8217;s much of a difference.  If the government in question demands access to the data that a corporation has on you, they&#8217;re going to get it.</p>
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		<title>By: austinhamman</title>
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		<dc:creator>austinhamman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$20 /month...a service? why?
i could see an app which costs money once and encrypts your email, sms, and phone calls (essentially just gets between them encrpyting on the fly, if someone gets it on the other end and doesnt have the means to decrypt it they get garbage) still run the issue of key negotiation but id rather have that than trust someone elses service to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$20 /month&#8230;a service? why?<br />
i could see an app which costs money once and encrypts your email, sms, and phone calls (essentially just gets between them encrpyting on the fly, if someone gets it on the other end and doesnt have the means to decrypt it they get garbage) still run the issue of key negotiation but id rather have that than trust someone elses service to it.</p>
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		<title>By: danegeld</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449327</link>
		<dc:creator>danegeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neat ideas, but I think at $20 / month it is steep. I might use a PGP voicemail / voice communication app, but  that&#039;s more than I pay per month for my phone anyway. How many calls a month do I make that it would be catastrophic if bugged? not many. If they divided that down to about $1/week/phone, still a decent revenue stream, they&#039;d have more uptake. I suspect most people would view guaranteed privacy as a luxury rather than necessity - doesn&#039;t seem worth $240 a year since the tech. is probably quite simple. Maybe some competition would drive the price down anyway. Interesting rationale, that since you&#039;re not the product you pay to use the service...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neat ideas, but I think at $20 / month it is steep. I might use a PGP voicemail / voice communication app, but  that&#8217;s more than I pay per month for my phone anyway. How many calls a month do I make that it would be catastrophic if bugged? not many. If they divided that down to about $1/week/phone, still a decent revenue stream, they&#8217;d have more uptake. I suspect most people would view guaranteed privacy as a luxury rather than necessity &#8211; doesn&#8217;t seem worth $240 a year since the tech. is probably quite simple. Maybe some competition would drive the price down anyway. Interesting rationale, that since you&#8217;re not the product you pay to use the service&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah Blatz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah Blatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m guessing it&#039;s just a blip. Between things like Kickstarter and the Humble Bundles (which displace what would historically been shareware, and thus represent an increase in prices) and looming energy issues (in a couple months, ask Germany and Japan how shutting down the nuke plants worked), paying is going to be pretty viable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m guessing it&#8217;s just a blip. Between things like Kickstarter and the Humble Bundles (which displace what would historically been shareware, and thus represent an increase in prices) and looming energy issues (in a couple months, ask Germany and Japan how shutting down the nuke plants worked), paying is going to be pretty viable.</p>
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		<title>By: elix</title>
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		<dc:creator>elix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CALEA&lt;/a&gt; is still on the books. I don&#039;t trust their &quot;no back doors&quot; statement. Because either they&#039;re wrong, or they have a very clever plan on hoodwinking law enforcement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act " rel="nofollow">CALEA</a> is still on the books. I don&#8217;t trust their &#8220;no back doors&#8221; statement. Because either they&#8217;re wrong, or they have a very clever plan on hoodwinking law enforcement.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Flowers</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449289</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Flowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I&#039;m also a bit concerned that he&#039;s making a tool to prevent government surveillence, but half the team are government agents...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I&#8217;m also a bit concerned that he&#8217;s making a tool to prevent government surveillence, but half the team are government agents&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Al Billings</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449268</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Billings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they aren&#039;t &quot;free&quot; because something is still being bought and sold. It just happens to be you. If you look at something on the net and can&#039;t figure out what the product is (when it comes to money), it is because YOU are the product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they aren&#8217;t &#8220;free&#8221; because something is still being bought and sold. It just happens to be you. If you look at something on the net and can&#8217;t figure out what the product is (when it comes to money), it is because YOU are the product.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Billings</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449267</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Billings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, those of us who choose to work at places like Mozilla (I do) actually do think it may be under our control, at least in regards to the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, those of us who choose to work at places like Mozilla (I do) actually do think it may be under our control, at least in regards to the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: retepslluerb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449259</link>
		<dc:creator>retepslluerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;m actually not that concerned,  since I already disabled a lot of tracking stuff via proxies and /etc/hosts, but I&#039;m reasonably tech savvy.   Also, tracking by government is still a much more pressing problem and much harder to fight.

The majority of the users who stay clear of Facebook don&#039;t even know that they can and do get tracked nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m actually not that concerned,  since I already disabled a lot of tracking stuff via proxies and /etc/hosts, but I&#8217;m reasonably tech savvy.   Also, tracking by government is still a much more pressing problem and much harder to fight.</p>
<p>The majority of the users who stay clear of Facebook don&#8217;t even know that they can and do get tracked nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: SoItBegins</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoItBegins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> You don&#039;t have to pay. It&#039;s just, the lesser-known encryption things out there require some wrestling to get into shape. It&#039;d be more accurate to say you&#039;re paying for someone to set up/maintain your private channel for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> You don&#8217;t have to pay. It&#8217;s just, the lesser-known encryption things out there require some wrestling to get into shape. It&#8217;d be more accurate to say you&#8217;re paying for someone to set up/maintain your private channel for you.</p>
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		<title>By: SoItBegins</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoItBegins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> 95%. What money really is is a representation of energy; if you buy something with it, you are buying the energy that went into making/finding/selling that thing (or, at least, what the other person SAYS is involved). 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> 95%. What money really is is a representation of energy; if you buy something with it, you are buying the energy that went into making/finding/selling that thing (or, at least, what the other person SAYS is involved). </p>
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		<title>By: SoItBegins</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoItBegins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> You, good sir, need the Firefox (+Safari and other browsers, too!) extension known as Ghostery. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> You, good sir, need the Firefox (+Safari and other browsers, too!) extension known as Ghostery. </p>
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		<title>By: Jake0748</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake0748</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Well... ya done got me there Ms/Mr Rezeya.  I guess I was just hangin on to  the outmoded definition of the word unique.  My bad.  Irregardless, I&#039;m all for the evolution of  the whole language thing.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Well&#8230; ya done got me there Ms/Mr Rezeya.  I guess I was just hangin on to  the outmoded definition of the word unique.  My bad.  Irregardless, I&#8217;m all for the evolution of  the whole language thing.  </p>
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		<title>By: Captain Obvious</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449240</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Obvious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to PAY for PRIVACY. 
Yep, thats where we are at in America.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to PAY for PRIVACY.<br />
Yep, thats where we are at in America&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: retepslluerb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449231</link>
		<dc:creator>retepslluerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t use Facebook at all yet Facebook still collects stuff about me via their Like-Buttons spread across the internet. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t use Facebook at all yet Facebook still collects stuff about me via their Like-Buttons spread across the internet. </p>
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		<title>By: Rezeya Montecore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449228</link>
		<dc:creator>Rezeya Montecore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds to me like describing ways to be &quot;pretty unique, sort of unique, very unique, or any other modifier of unique&quot; is EXACTLY what Hegelian just did, and you&#039;re kinda just ignoring him.

You take that prescriptivist &quot;Webster is God&quot; attitude to any serious linguist and you&#039;ll get laughed right out of their office. Words change. Languages vary and evolve. If there&#039;s a linguistic niche open -- and I think Hegelian at least made it quite clear that there is -- something will surely fill it.

And I guess Lynne Truss and her million tedious larvae will surely be there, just like the Latin-obsessed Victorian pedants of old, to tell us we&#039;re &quot;communicating wrongly&quot; (in precisely those stuffily and awkwardly correct terms no doubt), even when everybody of sense and imagination can discern quite clearly what we&#039;re saying. 

In short: git yer rascally pedant hide on the next carriage return outta Dodge, Mister Jake. The things y&#039;all&#039;re sayin&#039; don&#039;t matter no-how.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds to me like describing ways to be &#8220;pretty unique, sort of unique, very unique, or any other modifier of unique&#8221; is EXACTLY what Hegelian just did, and you&#8217;re kinda just ignoring him.</p>
<p>You take that prescriptivist &#8220;Webster is God&#8221; attitude to any serious linguist and you&#8217;ll get laughed right out of their office. Words change. Languages vary and evolve. If there&#8217;s a linguistic niche open &#8212; and I think Hegelian at least made it quite clear that there is &#8212; something will surely fill it.</p>
<p>And I guess Lynne Truss and her million tedious larvae will surely be there, just like the Latin-obsessed Victorian pedants of old, to tell us we&#8217;re &#8220;communicating wrongly&#8221; (in precisely those stuffily and awkwardly correct terms no doubt), even when everybody of sense and imagination can discern quite clearly what we&#8217;re saying. </p>
<p>In short: git yer rascally pedant hide on the next carriage return outta Dodge, Mister Jake. The things y&#8217;all&#8217;re sayin&#8217; don&#8217;t matter no-how.</p>
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		<title>By: SmokingHeartDesigns</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449226</link>
		<dc:creator>SmokingHeartDesigns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great that you want that but I don&#039;t think the eventual course of the economic system is under your control.  Things that once cost a bundle are free now.  In addition I don&#039;t know what you&#039;re going to be able to charge people for when AI gets scarily competent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great that you want that but I don&#8217;t think the eventual course of the economic system is under your control.  Things that once cost a bundle are free now.  In addition I don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re going to be able to charge people for when AI gets scarily competent.</p>
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		<title>By: SmokingHeartDesigns</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449227</link>
		<dc:creator>SmokingHeartDesigns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I haven&#039;t seen In Time.</description>
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		<title>By: Jake0748</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449218</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake0748</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There are degrees to which things are one of a kind.&quot;    Get the hell outta here with that crap, Hegelian.  

 Until &quot;they&quot; change the definition, unique means ONE of a kind.  There is no possible way to be pretty unique, sort of unique, very unique, or any other modifier of unique.  

The English language:  love it or leave it.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are degrees to which things are one of a kind.&#8221;    Get the hell outta here with that crap, Hegelian.  </p>
<p> Until &#8220;they&#8221; change the definition, unique means ONE of a kind.  There is no possible way to be pretty unique, sort of unique, very unique, or any other modifier of unique.  </p>
<p>The English language:  love it or leave it.  </p>
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		<title>By: Al Billings</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449216</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Billings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Good luck with that.
Many of us would rather pay than be the products, ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Good luck with that.<br />
Many of us would rather pay than be the products, ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Yan Min</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449213</link>
		<dc:creator>Yan Min</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody&#039;s been watching In Time a little too much :P  I&#039;m only half joking however, as I definitely see your point.  Money is a real world conversion result of effort to worth.  Your effort is your time and your resources.  Worth is simply what that time and those resources mean to someone else.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody&#8217;s been watching In Time a little too much :P  I&#8217;m only half joking however, as I definitely see your point.  Money is a real world conversion result of effort to worth.  Your effort is your time and your resources.  Worth is simply what that time and those resources mean to someone else.  </p>
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		<title>By: SmokingHeartDesigns</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449209</link>
		<dc:creator>SmokingHeartDesigns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Money can take many forms.   It is essentially a metaphor for time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Money can take many forms.   It is essentially a metaphor for time.</p>
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		<title>By: B E Pratt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/13/pgp-founder-creates-secure-voi.html#comment-1449210</link>
		<dc:creator>B E Pratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I like that. Not too sure I agree, but will consider it :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I like that. Not too sure I agree, but will consider it :)</p>
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