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	<title>Comments on: Award-winning book-burning hoax saves Troy, MI&#160;libraries</title>
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		<title>By: Fat Milhouse Sean</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1454260</link>
		<dc:creator>Fat Milhouse Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I&#039;m so tired of the scroungers and spendthrifts who failed to plan and now rail against any kind of tax increase, no matter what it will do.  

They are tone deaf and losing what little moderate support their ideas had.  After all, we can&#039;t balance the Federal budget even if we stop spending money on military and welfare...revenue increases are required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I&#8217;m so tired of the scroungers and spendthrifts who failed to plan and now rail against any kind of tax increase, no matter what it will do.  </p>
<p>They are tone deaf and losing what little moderate support their ideas had.  After all, we can&#8217;t balance the Federal budget even if we stop spending money on military and welfare&#8230;revenue increases are required.</p>
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		<title>By: mungle</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1454112</link>
		<dc:creator>mungle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 04:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reality? The whole thing was predicated on a lie. Nobody on either side of the issue was promoting the destruction of books or even the banning of books, but some folks took it upon themselves to deliver lies not only about the intent of the folks against raising (already high) taxes in a notably spendy (and irresponsibly so at that) city, but placed some of those Burn Books signs on the lawns of private citizens in order to make them personally look bad.

But please, let&#039;s talk some more about &quot;reality.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reality? The whole thing was predicated on a lie. Nobody on either side of the issue was promoting the destruction of books or even the banning of books, but some folks took it upon themselves to deliver lies not only about the intent of the folks against raising (already high) taxes in a notably spendy (and irresponsibly so at that) city, but placed some of those Burn Books signs on the lawns of private citizens in order to make them personally look bad.</p>
<p>But please, let&#8217;s talk some more about &#8220;reality.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mungle</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1454110</link>
		<dc:creator>mungle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 04:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Troy.

The thing about this, is that they didn&#039;t really make a lot of noise about the whole thing being a hoax. This is the first I&#039;ve seen anybody take credit for that whole business. Most rational people just wondered who was responsible. 

And immediately after the library was &quot;saved&quot; by increasing people&#039;s taxes by a few hundred a year, (0.7% is a little bit of cash when taxes are really fucking high already) they immediately started talking about building a brand new library. Oh, I thought we were short on funds what happened???

Meanwhile, everyone who just wanted the city to be more responsible with their funds instead of being fucking children gets painted as inbred backwards book burning witch hunters.

On top of that, they&#039;d go around neighborhoods and put those signs on people&#039;s lawns if they had any signs supporting republican candidates, to make those people (the homeowners) look like assholes too.

Honestly, there are too many people around here who just stomp around and get angry when they don&#039;t get their way, and make a public issue about it. I&#039;m no fan of the current mayor, but these consistent failed recall efforts are a perfect example. One group didn&#039;t get the mayor they wanted, so whine, complain and &quot;organize&quot; in the hopes of recall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Troy.</p>
<p>The thing about this, is that they didn&#8217;t really make a lot of noise about the whole thing being a hoax. This is the first I&#8217;ve seen anybody take credit for that whole business. Most rational people just wondered who was responsible. </p>
<p>And immediately after the library was &#8220;saved&#8221; by increasing people&#8217;s taxes by a few hundred a year, (0.7% is a little bit of cash when taxes are really fucking high already) they immediately started talking about building a brand new library. Oh, I thought we were short on funds what happened???</p>
<p>Meanwhile, everyone who just wanted the city to be more responsible with their funds instead of being fucking children gets painted as inbred backwards book burning witch hunters.</p>
<p>On top of that, they&#8217;d go around neighborhoods and put those signs on people&#8217;s lawns if they had any signs supporting republican candidates, to make those people (the homeowners) look like assholes too.</p>
<p>Honestly, there are too many people around here who just stomp around and get angry when they don&#8217;t get their way, and make a public issue about it. I&#8217;m no fan of the current mayor, but these consistent failed recall efforts are a perfect example. One group didn&#8217;t get the mayor they wanted, so whine, complain and &#8220;organize&#8221; in the hopes of recall.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanine Renne</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1453709</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeanine Renne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this concept.  If you can&#039;t beat &#039;em, join &#039;em... and make sure that all the other joiners understand exactly what they&#039;ve joined up for.  

It&#039;s a lot harder to just say &quot;Ditto!  Ditto!&quot; when someone injects some actual reality into the picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this concept.  If you can&#8217;t beat &#8216;em, join &#8216;em&#8230; and make sure that all the other joiners understand exactly what they&#8217;ve joined up for.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a lot harder to just say &#8220;Ditto!  Ditto!&#8221; when someone injects some actual reality into the picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1453622</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because for the teabaggers it wasn&#039;t about the library.

It was about crushing the notion of paying taxes. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because for the teabaggers it wasn&#8217;t about the library.</p>
<p>It was about crushing the notion of paying taxes. </p>
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		<title>By: Greg Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1453611</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truthfully, I don&#039;t know what their principles are ... or what the teatards actually stand for other than white power and similar phobic douchebaggery. So I just made up my last reply.

What I do know however, is the effect thier principles have had on the country via their involvement in our government. None of it is any good for America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truthfully, I don&#8217;t know what their principles are &#8230; or what the teatards actually stand for other than white power and similar phobic douchebaggery. So I just made up my last reply.</p>
<p>What I do know however, is the effect thier principles have had on the country via their involvement in our government. None of it is any good for America.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1453598</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A matter of principle. 

And in the teabaggers case, that principle seems to be : I&#039;ll have everything I need supplied for me, but I shouldn&#039;t have to pay for it because there are welfare queens who have the same things but don&#039;t pay for it. I know you are but what am I? But, Obama Obama, Obama !
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A matter of principle. </p>
<p>And in the teabaggers case, that principle seems to be : I&#8217;ll have everything I need supplied for me, but I shouldn&#8217;t have to pay for it because there are welfare queens who have the same things but don&#8217;t pay for it. I know you are but what am I? But, Obama Obama, Obama !</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1453586</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be a hypocrite I believe you have to think and actively participate in both sides of the coin.

The teatards are about as hypocritical as my dog barking at the dog down the street because he&#039;s barking at the other dog down the street who&#039;s barking at the other dog down the street, etc ... etc ... etc.  Pretty soon every dog for a square mile is barking out the same sentiment. But none of them really knows what they&#039;re barking at !

In other words. They don&#039;t think past the instinctual act of barking. In teaturdville, it&#039;s usually just one person who starts an idea and the rest just mindlessy bark their agreement. And unfortunately, the one who starts the idea is usually some idiot on AM radio or on TV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be a hypocrite I believe you have to think and actively participate in both sides of the coin.</p>
<p>The teatards are about as hypocritical as my dog barking at the dog down the street because he&#8217;s barking at the other dog down the street who&#8217;s barking at the other dog down the street, etc &#8230; etc &#8230; etc.  Pretty soon every dog for a square mile is barking out the same sentiment. But none of them really knows what they&#8217;re barking at !</p>
<p>In other words. They don&#8217;t think past the instinctual act of barking. In teaturdville, it&#8217;s usually just one person who starts an idea and the rest just mindlessy bark their agreement. And unfortunately, the one who starts the idea is usually some idiot on AM radio or on TV.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Young</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1453564</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no !!!

The teaturds are gonna be pissed off ???
Oh heavens no !!!!!!!!!!!

What shall we EVER do to make it up to them ???
Because after all .... they&#039;re usually  soooo  nice to everyone else. They&#039;re also such exemplary  model citizens and their economic model is just top notch !

They don&#039;t deserve such tomfoolery and disregard for their feeeeeeeee -lings and ideas !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no !!!</p>
<p>The teaturds are gonna be pissed off ???<br />
Oh heavens no !!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>What shall we EVER do to make it up to them ???<br />
Because after all &#8230;. they&#8217;re usually  soooo  nice to everyone else. They&#8217;re also such exemplary  model citizens and their economic model is just top notch !</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t deserve such tomfoolery and disregard for their feeeeeeeee -lings and ideas !!!</p>
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		<title>By: OtherMichael</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1453273</link>
		<dc:creator>OtherMichael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Books are sometimes for burning: &lt;a href=&quot;http://rhondaayliffe.blogspot.ca/p/artworks.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rhonda Ayliffe bookworks&lt;/a&gt; (NOT ME, in case that is not clear)

I&#039;ve hatcheted, nailed to trees, buried under streams, exposed to the elements, soaked, painted over, nailed to boards, and burned books, as well.

These things happen.

Context is everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Books are sometimes for burning: <a href="http://rhondaayliffe.blogspot.ca/p/artworks.html" rel="nofollow">Rhonda Ayliffe bookworks</a> (NOT ME, in case that is not clear)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve hatcheted, nailed to trees, buried under streams, exposed to the elements, soaked, painted over, nailed to boards, and burned books, as well.</p>
<p>These things happen.</p>
<p>Context is everything.</p>
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		<title>By: OtherMichael</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1453268</link>
		<dc:creator>OtherMichael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> There were three rounds of attempted tax increases, with anti-tax money spent in all three.
In one campaign, there was also a (secretly pro-library) book-burning promotion.
In two campaigns, the tax-increase was rejected.
In one campaign, the tax-increase was accepted.

The campaign that was accepted was &lt;strong&gt;also&lt;/strong&gt; the campaign featured the book-burning promotion.

This is correlation, not causation.
But a pretty good correlation

Additional points of interest would be voter turn out [noting amount of &quot;work we pro-library people did [...] to get the people out to the polls&quot; in all three campaigns], and margins of approval/rejection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> There were three rounds of attempted tax increases, with anti-tax money spent in all three.<br />
In one campaign, there was also a (secretly pro-library) book-burning promotion.<br />
In two campaigns, the tax-increase was rejected.<br />
In one campaign, the tax-increase was accepted.</p>
<p>The campaign that was accepted was <strong>also</strong> the campaign featured the book-burning promotion.</p>
<p>This is correlation, not causation.<br />
But a pretty good correlation</p>
<p>Additional points of interest would be voter turn out [noting amount of "work we pro-library people did [...] to get the people out to the polls&#8221; in all three campaigns], and margins of approval/rejection.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1453195</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 09:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a matter of principle in the same way that a 13 year-old refusing to clean his room or do his homework is a matter of principle.   The only principle is shortsighted selfishness and a refusal to acknowledge that one is part of society and benefits from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a matter of principle in the same way that a 13 year-old refusing to clean his room or do his homework is a matter of principle.   The only principle is shortsighted selfishness and a refusal to acknowledge that one is part of society and benefits from it.</p>
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		<title>By: AP²</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1453184</link>
		<dc:creator>AP²</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not an hypocrite if you benefit from something you&#039;re forced to do. Slaves weren&#039;t hypocrites for eating food given by the slavemasters. 

I don&#039;t agree with tax haters, but your accusations are unfair.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not an hypocrite if you benefit from something you&#8217;re forced to do. Slaves weren&#8217;t hypocrites for eating food given by the slavemasters. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with tax haters, but your accusations are unfair.</p>
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		<title>By: AP²</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1453183</link>
		<dc:creator>AP²</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you believe all taxes are bad, then you can&#039;t be consistent with your viewpoint and still drive on roads, call the police, expect the fire dept to save you from a burning house, expect clean water to your house, enjoy a sidewalk, rely on your air not being toxic, benefit from any kind of public education/911 service/fair hiring...The list goes on.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;m not a tax hater, but I disagree. I assume you&#039;re against people stealing from you. Now let&#039;s say I steal your car and leave you a Vespa in its place. Are you an hypocrite if you use it to get to work? Of course not! You didn&#039;t ask them to steal your car! 

Now, if one considers taxes to be theft, then the same applies. They&#039;re forced to pay them, it&#039;s not hypocrisy to use the stuff they pay for.

Now consider the following excerpts from This American Life&#039;s &quot;Wha Kind of Country&quot; episode:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Jan Martin: And a gentleman came up to me and actually thanked me for the adopt a street light program. He had just written a check to the city for $300 to turn all the street lights back on in his neighborhood. And I did remind him that for $200 if he had supported the tax initiative, we could have had not only streetlights, but parks and firemen and swimming pools and community centers. That by combining our resources, we as a community can actually accomplish more than we as individuals.

Robert Smith: And he said?

Jan Martin: He said he would never support a tax increase.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Some people are genuinely against taxes, even if it costs them more. To them, it&#039;s a matter of principle. I don&#039;t share their view - not by a long shot, I&#039;m left leaning by Europe&#039;s standards - but I respect it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you believe all taxes are bad, then you can&#8217;t be consistent with your viewpoint and still drive on roads, call the police, expect the fire dept to save you from a burning house, expect clean water to your house, enjoy a sidewalk, rely on your air not being toxic, benefit from any kind of public education/911 service/fair hiring&#8230;The list goes on.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not a tax hater, but I disagree. I assume you&#8217;re against people stealing from you. Now let&#8217;s say I steal your car and leave you a Vespa in its place. Are you an hypocrite if you use it to get to work? Of course not! You didn&#8217;t ask them to steal your car! </p>
<p>Now, if one considers taxes to be theft, then the same applies. They&#8217;re forced to pay them, it&#8217;s not hypocrisy to use the stuff they pay for.</p>
<p>Now consider the following excerpts from This American Life&#8217;s &#8220;Wha Kind of Country&#8221; episode:</p>
<blockquote><p>Jan Martin: And a gentleman came up to me and actually thanked me for the adopt a street light program. He had just written a check to the city for $300 to turn all the street lights back on in his neighborhood. And I did remind him that for $200 if he had supported the tax initiative, we could have had not only streetlights, but parks and firemen and swimming pools and community centers. That by combining our resources, we as a community can actually accomplish more than we as individuals.</p>
<p>Robert Smith: And he said?</p>
<p>Jan Martin: He said he would never support a tax increase.</p></blockquote>
<p>Some people are genuinely against taxes, even if it costs them more. To them, it&#8217;s a matter of principle. I don&#8217;t share their view &#8211; not by a long shot, I&#8217;m left leaning by Europe&#8217;s standards &#8211; but I respect it.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@boingboing-33267e5dc58fad346e92471c43fcccdc:disqus  &quot;We tricked people to get what we wanted&quot; is what 98% of marketing is, and we all fall for it, every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@boingboing-33267e5dc58fad346e92471c43fcccdc:disqus  &#8221;We tricked people to get what we wanted&#8221; is what 98% of marketing is, and we all fall for it, every day.</p>
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		<title>By: steamed punk</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1452190</link>
		<dc:creator>steamed punk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind not only did the local tea party group work against the original library funding proposal they had 3 additional proposals put on the ballot that they _never_ _intended_to_support_.  They simply used it so that they could campaign against the cumulative amount of all 4 proposals despite the fact that three of the proposals were theirs.  They also used it to divide support among the different proposals and confuse the electorate.

They are not just opponents of taxes, they actively subvert the democratic process in order to achieve their objectives.  It is one of the reasons the mayor may be recalled in November.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind not only did the local tea party group work against the original library funding proposal they had 3 additional proposals put on the ballot that they _never_ _intended_to_support_.  They simply used it so that they could campaign against the cumulative amount of all 4 proposals despite the fact that three of the proposals were theirs.  They also used it to divide support among the different proposals and confuse the electorate.</p>
<p>They are not just opponents of taxes, they actively subvert the democratic process in order to achieve their objectives.  It is one of the reasons the mayor may be recalled in November.  </p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because all opinions are the same?  Are we applying this to creationism, too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because all opinions are the same?  Are we applying this to creationism, too?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob T</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1452146</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 05:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kinda hit home for me because I used to live in Troy and loved the library there. It baffles me that it was even in danger of closing. I have literally stood outside of there with a crowd of people WAITING for it to open. It was surprisingly busy and very well run. Now I hope that continues for a long time to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kinda hit home for me because I used to live in Troy and loved the library there. It baffles me that it was even in danger of closing. I have literally stood outside of there with a crowd of people WAITING for it to open. It was surprisingly busy and very well run. Now I hope that continues for a long time to come.</p>
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		<title>By: dx574</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1452123</link>
		<dc:creator>dx574</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 02:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very confused by the partisan responses here -- a tax increase (for a reason I can appreciate) was proposed and made it to ballot.  Some people were proponents of the tax increase, and they spent money and time supporting it (perhaps in a strange way), and some people spent money and time opposing it.  Then, people voted and the majority was represented and appropriate action was taken.  What is the &#039;I hate the people who oppose it because they&#039;re bad/stupid/hypocrites/hicks&#039; narrative throughout the comments here?  Don&#039;t we vote for a reason and isn&#039;t everyone allowed to support their position?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very confused by the partisan responses here &#8212; a tax increase (for a reason I can appreciate) was proposed and made it to ballot.  Some people were proponents of the tax increase, and they spent money and time supporting it (perhaps in a strange way), and some people spent money and time opposing it.  Then, people voted and the majority was represented and appropriate action was taken.  What is the &#8216;I hate the people who oppose it because they&#8217;re bad/stupid/hypocrites/hicks&#8217; narrative throughout the comments here?  Don&#8217;t we vote for a reason and isn&#8217;t everyone allowed to support their position?</p>
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		<title>By: Mojrim ibn Harb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1452023</link>
		<dc:creator>Mojrim ibn Harb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The anti-library crowd aren&#039;t hypocritical so much as mendacious; the goal being to close the library rather than suppress  taxation.  The fight we&#039;re really having here is not and never has been about money, but about culture.  What these people want is a country of home and bible schooled people, easily driven to violance, praying for god to fix the roads.  I&#039;ve spent enough time talking to theses people, and on some pre-concious level they really believe that roads and bridges are natural phenomenon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The anti-library crowd aren&#8217;t hypocritical so much as mendacious; the goal being to close the library rather than suppress  taxation.  The fight we&#8217;re really having here is not and never has been about money, but about culture.  What these people want is a country of home and bible schooled people, easily driven to violance, praying for god to fix the roads.  I&#8217;ve spent enough time talking to theses people, and on some pre-concious level they really believe that roads and bridges are natural phenomenon.</p>
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		<title>By: shay simmons</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1451979</link>
		<dc:creator>shay simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 18:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the local Tea Party spent a lot of money convincing people not to raise taxes to save the library.  Why didn&#039;t they just donate the money to the library?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the local Tea Party spent a lot of money convincing people not to raise taxes to save the library.  Why didn&#8217;t they just donate the money to the library?</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1451971</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 18:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They aren&#039;t hypocrites because it doesn&#039;t go any deeper than &quot;taxes are bad.&quot; They don&#039;t have enough awareness to see the two sides required for hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They aren&#8217;t hypocrites because it doesn&#8217;t go any deeper than &#8220;taxes are bad.&#8221; They don&#8217;t have enough awareness to see the two sides required for hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1451807</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, but I blame Disqus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, but I blame Disqus.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1451806</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, it had to be done....

http://i.imgur.com/ZLYXG.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, it had to be done&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://i.imgur.com/ZLYXG.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/ZLYXG.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1451761</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 05:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean, why reply to the failed comment instead of to the earlier one?  Then I could just take out the failed one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, why reply to the failed comment instead of to the earlier one?  Then I could just take out the failed one.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1451707</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 03:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because I&#039;ve found when I edit posts, the new images don&#039;t appear because Disqus kinda sux. (see above edit to first post I just did to see case n&#039; point)

And, it wasn&#039;t &lt;b&gt;my&lt;/b&gt; fail;  It was a Disqus fail.  ^-^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because I&#8217;ve found when I edit posts, the new images don&#8217;t appear because Disqus kinda sux. (see above edit to first post I just did to see case n&#8217; point)</p>
<p>And, it wasn&#8217;t <b>my</b> fail;  It was a Disqus fail.  ^-^</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1451636</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 01:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you redo it as a reply to your failed attempt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you redo it as a reply to your failed attempt?</p>
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		<title>By: ldobe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1451593</link>
		<dc:creator>ldobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2012 23:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the big players supply money, and with a group as hyper-reactive as the teaparty it&#039;s just too easy to manipulate them into totally braindead campaigns.

EG: the birther movement, death panels, claiming Obama&#039;s a &quot;secret muslim&quot;, claiming all unions are run by gangsters, claiming that immunizations cause brain damage.

Why would the teaparty want libraries? They allow for research and sharing knowledge. All the teaparty wants is to believe the sweet lies their billionaire backers tell it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the big players supply money, and with a group as hyper-reactive as the teaparty it&#8217;s just too easy to manipulate them into totally braindead campaigns.</p>
<p>EG: the birther movement, death panels, claiming Obama&#8217;s a &#8220;secret muslim&#8221;, claiming all unions are run by gangsters, claiming that immunizations cause brain damage.</p>
<p>Why would the teaparty want libraries? They allow for research and sharing knowledge. All the teaparty wants is to believe the sweet lies their billionaire backers tell it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Singleton</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1451590</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Singleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2012 23:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given they apparently want a stupid easily terrified and led around public that after a few fliers and leaflets and astroturf groups will do as they want rather than consider the issue at hand from more than one angle.


This is what American politics has been reduced to folks and it shames me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given they apparently want a stupid easily terrified and led around public that after a few fliers and leaflets and astroturf groups will do as they want rather than consider the issue at hand from more than one angle.</p>
<p>This is what American politics has been reduced to folks and it shames me.</p>
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		<title>By: Guido</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/award-winning-book-burning-hoa.html#comment-1451570</link>
		<dc:creator>Guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2012 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, they pay money to prevent paying money in taxes. That makes perfect sense</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, they pay money to prevent paying money in taxes. That makes perfect sense</p>
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