Comments on: Plot holes in Prometheus, delivered in a monotone http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 23 May 2013 11:44:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Joseph http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1455501 Joseph Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1455501 Why would the alien try to leave without killing everyone the first time, but when his ship gets blown up, instead of getting another one, then he decides to kill everyone.  How does everyone know where the emergency pod landed when it looked like it fell in a ditch. Why would the alien try to leave without killing everyone the first time, but when his ship gets blown up, instead of getting another one, then he decides to kill everyone. 

How does everyone know where the emergency pod landed when it looked like it fell in a ditch.

]]> By: Johnny Massacre http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1455498 Johnny Massacre Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1455498 And why did the sketchy alien penis go in the dude's mouth and then ... nothing happened? And why did the sketchy alien penis go in the dude’s mouth and then … nothing happened?

]]> By: RedShirt77 http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1453537 RedShirt77 Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1453537  No, I was responding to the Star trek reboot. Which was fun but dumb.  What sort of super nova could destroy romuelus without enough warning to evacuate, but could be cured by replacing the star with a black hole.  Why would Nero blame Spock for just being late?  Why would it be safe for old spock, kirk, scotty to be on a planet/moon so close to Vulcan while Vulcan is collapsing into a black hole....  Why was the engine room a brewery?  Why was a mining vessel so well armed.  I could go on...  No, I was responding to the Star trek reboot.

Which was fun but dumb. 
What sort of super nova could destroy romuelus without enough warning to evacuate, but could be cured by replacing the star with a black hole.  Why would Nero blame Spock for just being late?  Why would it be safe for old spock, kirk, scotty to be on a planet/moon so close to Vulcan while Vulcan is collapsing into a black hole….  Why was the engine room a brewery?  Why was a mining vessel so well armed.  I could go on…

]]> By: tubacat http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1453158 tubacat Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1453158  How could hours more of this movie make the characters look any less stupid??  How could hours more of this movie make the characters look any less stupid??

]]> By: tubacat http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1453156 tubacat Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1453156  Yep - you two are correct. I can vouch for the fact that after abdominal surgery you can't sit up or walk for several days, because your abdominal muscles are sliced through. I guess it's possible that the magic machine instantly reconnected and healed all the abdominal muscles when it did the laser cautery. But it was a very odd mixture of futuristic and crude (I can also vouch for the staples - that's what they look like here in the 21st century).  Yep – you two are correct. I can vouch for the fact that after abdominal surgery you can’t sit up or walk for several days, because your abdominal muscles are sliced through. I guess it’s possible that the magic machine instantly reconnected and healed all the abdominal muscles when it did the laser cautery. But it was a very odd mixture of futuristic and crude (I can also vouch for the staples – that’s what they look like here in the 21st century).

]]> By: rocobo9 http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452885 rocobo9 Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452885 superb. you should check out his star wars prequel reviews superb. you should check out his star wars prequel reviews

]]> By: rocobo9 http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452872 rocobo9 Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452872 glad you weren't in my screening glad you weren’t in my screening

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452726 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452726 I saw it on opening night at the North Point in San Francisco, one of the largest screens on the country. We thought that it was going to be something like a Star Trek movie. Slept in the living room with all the lights on in the house. I saw it on opening night at the North Point in San Francisco, one of the largest screens on the country. We thought that it was going to be something like a Star Trek movie. Slept in the living room with all the lights on in the house.

]]> By: OtherMichael http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452715 OtherMichael Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452715 Gotta admit, sacrifice for a noble cause without a second thought should have impressed the h**l out of Space Jesus. But he just seemed pissed. Oh, wait -- Space Jesus got crucified. This must have been The Adventures of Space Jesus' Smarter and Easily Irritable Brother. Gotta admit, sacrifice for a noble cause without a second thought should have impressed the h**l out of Space Jesus.

But he just seemed pissed.

Oh, wait — Space Jesus got crucified. This must have been The Adventures of Space Jesus’ Smarter and Easily Irritable Brother.

]]> By: OtherMichael http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452710 OtherMichael Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452710  Totally. It all went downhill once two-strip technicolor showed up.  Totally. It all went downhill once two-strip technicolor showed up.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452697 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452697 Not all DNA is expressed. Although this might be a fairly extreme example. Not all DNA is expressed. Although this might be a fairly extreme example.

]]> By: OtherMichael http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452693 OtherMichael Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452693 And do all of those ships have navigators? Which seems like a likely component. Which then leads us (by a commodius vicus of recirculation) to Original Alien and Environs (LV-426). And do all of those ships have navigators?

Which seems like a likely component. Which then leads us (by a commodius vicus of recirculation) to Original Alien and Environs (LV-426).

]]> By: OtherMichael http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452678 OtherMichael Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452678 >Why would they not survey the rest of the planet before committing to a site? In a movie filled with holes, this irritated me the most. AT LEAST DO A FREAKING 5-MINUTE FLY-BY BEFORE LANDING. :::sigh::: >Did nobody spot the twelve storey-high skull mounted on top of the facility roof? Seeing Baron Harkonen's Castle was befuddling. >Why would they not survey the rest of the planet before committing to a site?

In a movie filled with holes, this irritated me the most. AT LEAST DO A FREAKING 5-MINUTE FLY-BY BEFORE LANDING.

:::sigh:::

>Did nobody spot the twelve storey-high skull mounted on top of the facility roof?

Seeing Baron Harkonen’s Castle was befuddling.

]]> By: Jeremy http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452605 Jeremy Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452605 At the end David tells her that there were many ships on that planet, not just one more. At the end David tells her that there were many ships on that planet, not just one more.

]]> By: Jeremy http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452600 Jeremy Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452600  At some point I actually said in the theater "What the fuck kind of scientists are these guys?"  At some point I actually said in the theater “What the fuck kind of scientists are these guys?”

]]> By: Mitchell Bundy http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452584 Mitchell Bundy Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:14:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452584 "Is David a secret asshole?" BAHAHAHA. Love it. “Is David a secret asshole?” BAHAHAHA. Love it.

]]> By: Felton / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452486 Felton / Moderator Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:47:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452486 Yes, as in "canon fodder". Yes, as in “canon fodder”.

]]> By: doggo http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452484 doggo Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452484 What about not in having or then go understand but yes? What about not in having or then go understand but yes?

]]> By: doggo http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452470 doggo Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452470 The "first one" what? If you mean Alien, then I challenge you to do a plot hole video for Alien. Or even a list. The “first one” what? If you mean Alien, then I challenge you to do a plot hole video for Alien. Or even a list.

]]> By: wizardru http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452465 wizardru Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452465 That sort of assumes that the only reason an alien in the engineer's position, when faced with the situation we see, would be violent or disagreeable is for him to be an asshole.  For all we know, they were heretics in the eyes of this guys god.  Perhaps the engineers hate color and must randomly kill on Tuesdays.  He's an alien and we don't grok his motivations at all. As for the ship not being able to defend itself: we see in the holo-recording that the ship had a captain and at least three action stations on what we assume is the bridge.  Who's to say that it doesn't require three or more people to control the ship.  One to navigate, one to pilot and another to man the weapons systems? A lot of 'plot holes' in the movie are really informational gaps.  They could be errors...or they could just be things we didn't get info on to know if it was wrong or not. That sort of assumes that the only reason an alien in the engineer’s position, when faced with the situation we see, would be violent or disagreeable is for him to be an asshole.  For all we know, they were heretics in the eyes of this guys god.  Perhaps the engineers hate color and must randomly kill on Tuesdays.  He’s an alien and we don’t grok his motivations at all.

As for the ship not being able to defend itself: we see in the holo-recording that the ship had a captain and at least three action stations on what we assume is the bridge.  Who’s to say that it doesn’t require three or more people to control the ship.  One to navigate, one to pilot and another to man the weapons systems?

A lot of ‘plot holes’ in the movie are really informational gaps.  They could be errors…or they could just be things we didn’t get info on to know if it was wrong or not.

]]> By: privatedick http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452458 privatedick Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:05:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452458  You poor bastard. Seeing Alien in a dark theater, coming at you---or rather, not seeing it...just sick mucusy shiny carapace and teeth emerging out of the dark...that was mind-fucking. Plus the whole "I will fuck you till you love me" parasitic wasp thing.  You poor bastard. Seeing Alien in a dark theater, coming at you—or rather, not seeing it…just sick mucusy shiny carapace and teeth emerging out of the dark…that was mind-fucking. Plus the whole “I will fuck you till you love me” parasitic wasp thing.

]]> By: privatedick http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452453 privatedick Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:01:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452453  You must still see it.  You must still see it.

]]> By: wizardru http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452447 wizardru Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452447 No, his victory in the batpod scene would be to get Batman to compromise his principles and kill.  That's what he wants.  If he can push the Batman and Harvey Dent into being monsters, then he's right about the world and the people in it.    As he says to Batman later, he believes the only way Batman will beat him is if he violates his ONE rule...since the Joker is all about chaos, this is his victory condition. There are plenty of plot gaps in Dark Knight, but that isn't really one of them, IMHO. No, his victory in the batpod scene would be to get Batman to compromise his principles and kill.  That’s what he wants.  If he can push the Batman and Harvey Dent into being monsters, then he’s right about the world and the people in it.    As he says to Batman later, he believes the only way Batman will beat him is if he violates his ONE rule…since the Joker is all about chaos, this is his victory condition.

There are plenty of plot gaps in Dark Knight, but that isn’t really one of them, IMHO.

]]> By: privatedick http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452430 privatedick Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:36:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452430  Actually, first seen in "Logan's Run": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFDLFEytmFo  Actually, first seen in “Logan’s Run”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFDLFEytmFo

]]> By: privatedick http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452426 privatedick Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452426  the alien is an equal opportunity inseminator and creates its own uterus. See "Alien", and "Alien 3 (prison planet)"  the alien is an equal opportunity inseminator and creates its own uterus. See “Alien”, and “Alien 3 (prison planet)”

]]> By: privatedick http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452424 privatedick Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452424 Their DNA was an exact match to ours...never mind that it wasn't because we're not 12 feet tall and gray, the graphic said so. Their DNA was an exact match to ours…never mind that it wasn’t because we’re not 12 feet tall and gray, the graphic said so.

]]> By: privatedick http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452422 privatedick Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452422  Why was there a second fully functional Engineer ship on the planet for the robot and the hot chick to fly to the Engineer homeworld? Was it full of hypersleeping Engineers? Why didn't they wake up? If there's two Engineer ships with a mission to destroy Earth, both disabled, wouldn't there likely be more? Lots more? Even if Robot and hot chick fly to Engineer homeworld faster than light, doesn't time compression mean hundreds of years will pass before they arrive, so Earth is doomed anyway? Would someone please pass the popcorn??  Why was there a second fully functional Engineer ship on the planet for the robot and the hot chick to fly to the Engineer homeworld? Was it full of hypersleeping Engineers? Why didn’t they wake up? If there’s two Engineer ships with a mission to destroy Earth, both disabled, wouldn’t there likely be more? Lots more? Even if Robot and hot chick fly to Engineer homeworld faster than light, doesn’t time compression mean hundreds of years will pass before they arrive, so Earth is doomed anyway? Would someone please pass the popcorn??

]]> By: privatedick http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452412 privatedick Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452412  Dammit, it's "Canon".  Dammit, it’s “Canon”.

]]> By: tristan eldritch http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452359 tristan eldritch Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452359 However fatalistic or otherwise he may be about the solution, the Joker still clearly plans in advance that he will be arrested rather than killed (hence positioning the goon with the bomb in his stomach to aid his eventual escape) and the extreme unlikelyhood of this plan coming off without a hitch remains undiluted.  The Joker isn't demanding to be killed by Batman; he is gambling that killing isn't in Batman's nature.  The Joker clearly has a long term goal; he wants to "win" in the very nonsensical sense of proving that his "bleak" view of humanity is correct; hence the scene with the boats, and the Joker's clear emotional investment in predicting the outcome of that correctly (and, in a tribute to the film's silliness, this is the only outcome that he probably should have got right, but doesn't.) However fatalistic or otherwise he may be about the solution, the Joker still clearly plans in advance that he will be arrested rather than killed (hence positioning the goon with the bomb in his stomach to aid his eventual escape) and the extreme unlikelyhood of this plan coming off without a hitch remains undiluted.  The Joker isn’t demanding to be killed by Batman; he is gambling that killing isn’t in Batman’s nature.  The Joker clearly has a long term goal; he wants to “win” in the very nonsensical sense of proving that his “bleak” view of humanity is correct; hence the scene with the boats, and the Joker’s clear emotional investment in predicting the outcome of that correctly (and, in a tribute to the film’s silliness, this is the only outcome that he probably should have got right, but doesn’t.)

]]> By: ocatagon http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html#comment-1452335 ocatagon Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=166600#comment-1452335 There have been precious few solid sci-fi offerings in the last decade outside of "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" and "Moon" There have been precious few solid sci-fi offerings in the last decade outside of “Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind” and “Moon”

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