Then one day the McDonald’s blew up.

Totally not kidding!

http://www3.gendisasters.com/delaware/13113/newark-de-restaurant-explosion-dec-1976

The first group wants to stop their enemies from doing something good (or at least to complain about it, negating the PR incentive to some extent).  Using your example, they either don’t consider or don’t have a problem with the idea that a hospital might not get a new ward, or an amputee might not get a prosthetic limb, if “dirty money” can’t be used.

The second group is not punishment oriented, is not willing to sacrifice the needy on an altar of ideology, and is willing to convert money from any source into something helpful and good.  I know which side I’m on in such conflicts – the former group is too dictatorial for my tastes.

Yes great if you can turn money earned via what some would call dubious practises into positives but then you get conflict of interests, as far as I can see.

As for remorse, I doubt it. If it is it demonstrates a disconnect. The proper response to remorse is to change the behaviour which generates it, not to keep at it and only seek to demonstrate remorse.

As for data, the proof is in the pudding, the corporation seeks recognition. That is unnecessary if the goal is as altruistic as you seem to perceive it.

I don’t see a Tyrran, but your characterization of evil demonstrates a bias on your part far beyond my own.

Another demonstration of your bias, I don’t consider marketing necessarily demonstrative of worst possible intentions. Marketing is a legitimate practice when practiced by legitimate organizations or individuals.

The UK does not have sovereignty over the Commonwealth of Nations (54 countries) although some (16, called Commonwealth Realms) of those nations have E2R as head of state.

And like my new evil friend, Tyrran, you use delicate language to infer that many McDonalds customers aren’t sophisticated enough to know a BigMac isn’t healthy.  The Stanford study:  The Bias Blind Spot: Perceptions of Bias in Self Versus Others, might be a bit of an eye opener for you two.

b) I stay up late, sometimes it’s the only thing open.

c) Sometimes I get baked and ignore all dietary restrictions.

I really don’t eat there too much – maybe a couple times a month. Much prefer the cheap Vietnamese places. ;-)

It has taken 35+ years to bring tobacco to heel in 1st world places with most everyplace but possibly the US seeing huge dividends in health & societal cost.

If it isn’t a closed campus I would only attempt to educate the HS students myself. 

The place to really put the effort is in the school cafeteria’s at pre-school, elementary & junior high, which are also usually closed campus. Many pre-schools & elementary schools also provide breakfast to under-privileged.

After all, it isn’t a matter of tastes, it is a matter of conditioning. The taste argument kids give is a lot of hooey. Real food tastes better in a healthy body.

The goal is to market to as many of the least sophisticated prospective consumers as possible. The secondary is to make as many associations with health and as many impressions as possible per dollar spent.

This has zero to do with giving back. 

If this is the case then doubtless Amherst was just trying to repay the initial kindness of the Delaware by giving them warm snuggle soft blankets.

I mean, I get the ironic aspects, and can chuckle at them, but I don’t get the anger and impotent desire to interfere with such things that I see in some of y’all’s posts.

I once had a buddy who managed money for a whole lot of venture capitalists.  He used to direct funds from the Bush/Baker/binLaden zaibatsu into the things he wanted to sponsor that were most likely to fail, and money from organizations like McDonalds into things that were likely to remediate some of the harm done by them.  I always admired this behavior, but after he lost a billion or so for Carlyle they stopped using his services.

If you extrapolate that across society as a whole, if everyone around you is overweight from eating too much crap, it’s far more difficult to realistically assess your own weight problem. If you’re used to seeing people who are so fat they need to use golf carts to get around, a bit of a beer belly doesn’t seem so bad, and the motivation to get rid of it disappears.

I do make exceptions for higher-quality places like Chipotle and In-n-Out (I was addicted to both when I first moved to California, to the detriment of my waistline and my gastro-intestinal health). 

On the rare occasions that I eat at McDonald’s-like places (it’s sometimes the only thing reasonably available when traveling) I get tremors and sweats etc. too. I attribute this to my body just not being used to it, and shiver at the thought of what must be going on in one’s body if they are used to it.

My question to you is… if you eat it enough to be embarrassed by how often you go, but not enough to get past the tremors and sweats, well, how does that work? Why do you keep going? Toronto’s a pretty good cheap-food city, in my outsider’s experience :)

Yeah, it must be so hard for those immensely profitable multinational corporations… having those big meanie governments making you put relevant facts on your products! Facts! HOW UNFAIR IS THAT?! My heart really goes out to them.

Oh, no, wait, that’s just the cardiovascular disease.

“Now they try to give back to their community, and you don’ t like that either.”

Because, of course, McD’s sponsor sports to “try to give back to their community”. Hang on, no… it’s “because our research shows it increases our profits”. Just like everything else a corporation does.

Also: I’m neither particularly skinny, nor a health freak; I like a bit of fast food as much as the next guy; and, as you might have noticed if you had any reading comprehension, nowhere did I tell other people how to best live their lives.

As for “butthole”, well… et tu, brute. I’m not the one who started throwing vacuous insults around just because I disagreed with someone.

Have a Venn diagram:

http://qntm.org/uk

“Contrary to popular belief, we as a race have not become greedier or less active in recent years. But one thing that has changed is the food we eat, and, more specifically, the sheer amount of sugar we ingest.”

(I keed, I keed!)

Think education is an important part to play here, think a lot of this stems from a total lack of education. It never ceases to amaze me what people will turn their noses up at when it comes to food. Yet gobbling this crap down, because it is loaded with stuff that makes you believe it’s tasty is considered the norm.

Cooking it for yourself although it can be time consuming (although never as much as people think) is healthy, enjoyable and can really broaden your horizons.

To be honest there is no real place in the world for this type of fast food. Or there ought not to be.

You’ll be happy to know that a big YUP!

There is no negative health consequences of people in the vicinity of fast food eaters

Lots of litter; drives smaller, possibly healthier restaurants out; annoys parents of fast-food addicted children who demand a McSlurry every time they go out, plus the ball pool is probably unsanitary.

Plus safety issues caused by a proliferation of teenagers and living near an unauthorized and understaffed homeless shelter. Losing sleep due to drunks screaming for burgers, Burgers! BURGERS!!! at 3:55 a.m. (sorry that was me).